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00:39.13SAiFUyay
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00:42.49DocScrutinizer05waves and heads back to bed, curing the errr *killing* the virus
00:44.32nox-get well soon! :)
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07:42.45DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: you can find warfare here
07:44.02DocScrutinizer05and prolly even chem|st
07:44.11DocScrutinizer05FWIW
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07:45.00DocScrutinizer05xes seems to be a rare guest on IRC, since...
07:46.05DocScrutinizer05a classical situation where you DONT want public channel
07:47.13DocScrutinizer05(a reply to those who bitched "why THE F**K do we need a 'closed' admin channel at all?")
07:48.15DocScrutinizer05well, I could post the names and IPs of those who asked such BS ;-P
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07:49.30DocScrutinizer05which should conveniently and adequately answer their question
07:50.00DocScrutinizer05or how about phone number?
07:50.15DocScrutinizer05address?
07:52.35DocScrutinizer05MEH!
07:52.40ApicMoo!
07:52.52DocScrutinizer05good luck maemo!
07:55.57DocScrutinizer05notices vivid attendance at yesterday's meeting
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08:14.59eth0_So execpt soldering, they did not have a way to flash n900 without usb
08:15.55eth0_Infrared, tv port … ?
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09:05.26zGrrmoin :)
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10:42.23DocScrutinizer05eth0_: unclear. there *might* be a way to flash via JTAG, using a fixture jig that goes to where battery usually sits
10:43.07DocScrutinizer05this is a lab procedure for engineers at Nokia
10:43.25DocScrutinizer05for user there's no alternative
10:44.09DocScrutinizer05honestly, a N900 without USB port is largely useless
10:48.15eth0_thanks for your reply, i'm gonna try to fix usb port… 
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11:06.11eth0_DocScrutinizer05: i've a battery charger, so except for flashing, the usb connector still useless for me
11:07.03DocScrutinizer05mhm
11:09.17DocScrutinizer05I'd hate to boot each day (twice)
11:10.57eth0_I know, but it seems to be the only way for me to have an n900
11:11.02eth0_s/an/a
11:16.31DocScrutinizer05~usbfix
11:16.31infobotusbfix is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL2862BF3631A5C1AA&feature=player_detailpage&v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1861, or you will basically need two irons
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11:41.14hxkaDocScrutinizer05: I have that issue with Opera as well
11:41.51DocScrutinizer05hxka: sorry?
11:42.29hxka> <DocScrutinizer51> wow! that's odd. I just locked device while Opera still downloading a webpage. The indicator LED flashed blue to me, like SMS
11:42.43DocScrutinizer05aah
11:42.49DocScrutinizer05yes, it's a feature
11:42.52DocScrutinizer05;-P
11:44.05DocScrutinizer05actually amazing how closely they matched opera to maemo/N900
11:46.51DocScrutinizer05currently I try to tweak my PC KDE so it becomes usable again. Systray steals focus and sets it to NIL, as soon as a new systray icion gets added. Easy test: plug in a memstick, so the usually hidden Device Notifier moves to visible systray section
11:49.11DocScrutinizer05trying to fix dat shite via special window rules for Plasma panel... doesn't pan out :-/
11:49.26r00t^homefun stuff
11:50.17DocScrutinizer05particularly when you got Konversation IRC client configured to show a systray notifier when any highlight happened
11:50.24r00t^homei'd suspect the success rate of reporting a bug to be exactly zero
11:50.46DocScrutinizer05errr bugtracker works ;-P
11:50.48r00t^homei was refering to the fun of trying to fix it, not the bug itself, which is ofcourse fun too
11:51.17r00t^homesuccess rate as in having it get fixed this decade
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11:53.39DocScrutinizer05nfc, prolly you're 100% right
11:53.43DocScrutinizer05http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/09/plasma-desktopqt1775.png
11:53.53DocScrutinizer05https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311467
11:53.57povbot04Bug 311467: was not found.
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11:58.14DocScrutinizer05http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/09/plasma-desktopOF1775.png
12:00.28DocScrutinizer05http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/09/plasma-desktopWV1775.png
12:01.55DocScrutinizer05hooray to upgrades, always lots of fun. with KDE4.8.??? it didn't act that silly
12:02.50DocScrutinizer05but $me thinks "I should upgrade from version 12.3 to version 13.1 of my distro" - what an idiocy
12:04.24DocScrutinizer05anybody already on KDE4.12 ? willing to test? or maybe even somebody to confirm for KDE4.11.5?
12:05.45Luke-Jrconfirm what?
12:06.00DocScrutinizer05bug in KDE
12:06.08DocScrutinizer05https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311467
12:06.10povbot04Bug 311467: was not found.
12:06.54Luke-JrI don't experience it in KDE 4.11.5
12:07.02Luke-Jrtested by running kteatime in Konsole
12:07.10Luke-Jrkteatime starts in the systray only; but focus remains in konsole
12:07.25DocScrutinizer05are you sure you have device notifier set to "auto" so it vanishes when no device plugged to USB?
12:07.52Luke-Jroh, is it specific to that program.. no?
12:07.55DocScrutinizer05hmm, kteatime, konsole. lemme try
12:08.06Luke-JrI don't think I even have device notifier, as that requires some silly glib dependency
12:08.06raccoon_isnt teatime a systray applet?
12:08.21raccoon_shouldnt do much more than that i think
12:08.54DocScrutinizer05sorry, kteatime not available on my system
12:08.58Luke-JrO.o
12:09.22Luke-Jrdunno what I'd do without it XD
12:09.38Luke-Jrprobably one of my top 5 GUI apps
12:10.36DocScrutinizer05fires up yast
12:13.27MaxdamantusDid you have to configure something to make your font hinted and not subpixel-antialiased?
12:14.56DocScrutinizer05WOW WOOOOW YEEEHAAA! WOW! \po/ :-D
12:15.01Maxdamantusrecently forced all Latin text to use either DejaVu Sans or DejaVu Sans Mono, after Wikipedia started using a non-hinted (or badly hinted, dunno) font by default.
12:15.17DocScrutinizer05for some reason my window rules fixed it with some delay only
12:15.57kolpcan't confirm the bug for KDE 4.11.5 on buntkuh.
12:18.42DocScrutinizer05so http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/09/plasma-desktopWV1775.png  http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/09/plasma-desktopOF1775.png worked
12:19.04DocScrutinizer05it's pretty weird
12:20.29DocScrutinizer05*some* bug is in there. Maybe I even find out *which one*
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12:41.22DocScrutinizer05hmm, disabling the windows rule brings back the bug
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13:02.20DocScrutinizer51thanks infobot
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20:23.25DocScrutinizer05BWAHAHAHA  http://blog.existentialize.com/diagnosis-of-the-openssl-heartbleed-bug.html
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20:29.14DocScrutinizer05seggelmann disaster. BTW maemo had PFS enabled on all SSL, afaik
20:30.06DocScrutinizer05at least I seem to recall making sure it has
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20:50.21DocScrutinizer05tzzz
20:51.10DocScrutinizer05~seen htheb
20:51.12infoboththeb <57d3a04c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.211.160.76> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 24d 21h 5m 58s ago, saying: 'grrr'.
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