| 00:15.47 | Maxdamantus | LED :\ |
| 00:16.08 | Maxdamantus | Okay, so probably doesn't. |
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| 00:37.06 | ShadowJK | solid shining led indicates the charger is without software control |
| 00:37.34 | ShadowJK | Typically when the charger is under software control, the software disables the led, and makes it pulsate instead |
| 00:38.17 | ShadowJK | (though amusingly, as the LED controller is so programmable, it will keep blinking the led long after the software crashes) |
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| 01:24.30 | Maxdamantus | # amixer scontents | grep '^Simple mixer control' | wc -l |
| 01:24.30 | Maxdamantus | 187 |
| 01:24.42 | Maxdamantus | 187 controls :\ |
| 01:28.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds about right |
| 01:29.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~charge21 |
| 01:29.09 | kerio | welcome to pulseaudio |
| 01:29.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | nope |
| 01:29.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's alsa |
| 01:29.23 | kerio | mh |
| 01:29.27 | kerio | hw mixer? |
| 01:29.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 01:32.11 | Maxdamantus | alsa also does sw mixing. |
| 01:33.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | mixer is a generic term in this context |
| 01:33.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | I anyway wonder where's your -c 0 parameter for amixer |
| 01:33.52 | Maxdamantus | Oh, thought it was referring to the act of combining multiple audio streams into one. |
| 01:34.09 | Maxdamantus | I don't think you need it for listing mixers. |
| 01:34.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | it does this as well, for some pathes |
| 01:34.34 | Maxdamantus | it's meant to do it automatically now. |
| 01:34.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ # amixer scontents | grep '^Simple mixer control' | wc -l |
| 01:35.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | 2 |
| 01:35.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ # amixer -c 0 scontents | grep '^Simple mixer control' | wc -l |
| 01:35.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | 66 |
| 01:35.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | err |
| 01:35.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ # amixer -c 0 scontents | grep -c '^Simple mixer control' |
| 01:35.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | 66 |
| 01:36.08 | Maxdamantus | I only see one card with the 3.14 kernel. |
| 01:36.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | ohmy |
| 01:36.40 | Maxdamantus | is the default one in maemo routed to pulseaudio or something? |
| 01:37.13 | Maxdamantus | (so not an actual card) |
| 01:37.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ # amixer -c 0 scontrols|wc -l |
| 01:37.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | 66 |
| 01:37.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | err yep, prolly |
| 01:37.51 | Maxdamantus | Yeah, it is. |
| 01:38.04 | Maxdamantus | ctl.!default { type pulse .. } |
| 01:38.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ # amixer -c 0 controls|wc -l |
| 01:38.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | 71 |
| 01:38.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ # amixer controls|wc -l |
| 01:38.43 | Maxdamantus | is trying to figure out what control to use to make the headphone jack work. |
| 01:38.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | 4 |
| 01:38.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | haha |
| 01:39.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | "make work2 is a funny goal |
| 01:40.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd say it needs at least 5..10 comtrols in right position, to "make hs jack work" |
| 01:40.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | the joy of mixers |
| 01:41.13 | Maxdamantus | also wonder why mplayer plays back music slowly. |
| 01:41.39 | Maxdamantus | Presumably not a CPU usage issue, as I imagine that'd make it jitter rather than play slowly. |
| 01:42.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | here: OMAP SSI out (if that's what you want), then 320aic34 or what's it called, and finally the hs-amp which has its own I2C control |
| 01:42.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | tuning also too low? |
| 01:43.09 | Maxdamantus | tuning? |
| 01:43.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | pitch? |
| 01:43.19 | Maxdamantus | Yes. |
| 01:43.35 | Maxdamantus | so it's like the actual wave is longer. |
| 01:43.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | then prolly the "audiocard" clock is lower than mplayer assumes |
| 01:44.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | try aplay |
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| 01:45.39 | Maxdamantus | same thing happens with aplay |
| 01:45.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | aplay -D <alsadevice> -vv sound.wav |
| 01:45.46 | Maxdamantus | but adding `-af resample=48000` to mplayer makes it sound better. |
| 01:46.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, N900 has fixed audio clock of 48k iirc |
| 01:46.28 | Maxdamantus | maybe alsa isn't resampling (the source is 44.1 kHz) |
| 01:46.32 | Maxdamantus | Hm. |
| 01:46.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | exactly |
| 01:47.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | depends on your audiodev |
| 01:47.14 | Maxdamantus | Mk, guess that makes sense. |
| 01:47.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | try plughw:0.0 |
| 01:47.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe your !default def is odd |
| 01:47.45 | Maxdamantus | but would've expected it to fail saying 44.1 kHz isn't supported by the output or something, maybe the driver's just not mature enough to do that yet. |
| 01:48.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | aplay -vv |
| 01:48.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | pastebin |
| 01:49.15 | Maxdamantus | https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Maxdamantus/74dcacb75d126636a205/raw/02e08b30b9595b409dfda163cc0dec4b1ca29c51/gistfile1.txt |
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| 01:49.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:50.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | you shouldn't directly drive the hw:0.0 audio device |
| 01:50.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | try plughw:0.0 |
| 01:50.49 | Maxdamantus | invalid value for card. |
| 01:51.08 | Maxdamantus | What's plughw meant to be? |
| 01:51.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | plughw should be a combo of plug and hw |
| 01:51.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | plug is a universal resampling and mapping/convertig plugin |
| 01:52.49 | Maxdamantus | Ah. |
| 01:52.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly fremantle never heard of it and does everything in PolypAudio |
| 01:53.41 | Maxdamantus | I'm not in freemantle. |
| 01:53.51 | Maxdamantus | in a fairly plain Debian. |
| 01:54.16 | Maxdamantus | will add a plug device. |
| 01:55.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/pcm_plugins.html |
| 01:57.14 | Maxdamantus | works with dmix |
| 01:57.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | Automatic conversion plugin |
| 01:57.44 | Maxdamantus | just adding a plug didn't seem to do anything, but I don't really understand it, so might've used it wrong. |
| 01:57.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | pcm.name { |
| 01:57.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.20 | Maxdamantus | Yeah, that's what I had, then slave.pcm "hw:0,0" |
| 01:58.35 | Maxdamantus | now I have slave.pcm "main" |
| 01:58.41 | Maxdamantus | and pcm.main a dmix thing |
| 01:59.06 | Maxdamantus | (didn't need to specify the rateāit must've at least figured that out automatically when creating the dmix device) |
| 02:00.12 | Maxdamantus | ah, so you specify the rate in the slave configuration. |
| 02:01.28 | Maxdamantus | and that works for multiple programs already, so don't need dmix, which would presumably have been a small amount of overhead. |
| 02:01.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | grep plughw -A 50 /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf |
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| 02:02.43 | Maxdamantus | Mm .. there's something there. |
| 02:03.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/4c1c8d9bd5 |
| 02:04.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/716253453e |
| 02:06.07 | Maxdamantus | Yeah, mine's the same for pcm.plughw at least. |
| 02:06.30 | Maxdamantus | anyway, it all works by just adding the plug to /etc/asound.conf |
| 02:06.41 | Maxdamantus | can make that pcm.!default there too. |
| 02:08.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# diff /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf.origJR /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf |
| 02:08.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | 59c59 |
| 02:08.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | < defaults.namehint.extended off |
| 02:08.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | --- |
| 02:08.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | > defaults.namehint.extended on |
| 02:08.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 02:10.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | plughw:0.0 is same as plug:'hw:0.0' |
| 02:11.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | the alsa plugin stack is basically just a set of nested "function calls", with parameters |
| 02:11.59 | Maxdamantus | well, both of them seem to exist, but using them just says "Invalid value for card" |
| 02:12.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, is PA started? |
| 02:12.35 | Maxdamantus | No. |
| 02:12.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, hw:0,0 ? |
| 02:13.19 | Maxdamantus | ah, that doesn't work either. |
| 02:13.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno, there been a catch but I forgot it, it's a known gotcha |
| 02:13.34 | Maxdamantus | ah, should be card 1 |
| 02:13.37 | Maxdamantus | heh |
| 02:13.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe |
| 02:14.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | -vv for aplay help a lot to understand plugin stack and what it does |
| 02:15.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | aplay -l and aplay -L also helps |
| 02:15.09 | Maxdamantus | eh, no, should be card 0. |
| 02:15.46 | Maxdamantus | I used `pcm.main.slave.pcm "hw:0,0"` as part of the dmix thing and it worked. |
| 02:16.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/ba05eb5b5a |
| 02:16.12 | Maxdamantus | agh, accidentally typed a . instead of , |
| 02:16.31 | Maxdamantus | so plughw:0,0 does work, but it's still the wrong rate. |
| 02:16.44 | Maxdamantus | when I made the plug device in /etc/asound.conf I had to specify the rate. |
| 02:16.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | slave no proper rate definition? |
| 02:17.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | hw:0,0 should have rate 48000 |
| 02:17.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | afaik |
| 02:17.40 | Maxdamantus | How do you find out? |
| 02:18.50 | Maxdamantus | I suspect the driver isn't reporting it as having that rate, or is reporting it as having that rate and others, while it only actually supports that rate. |
| 02:19.18 | Maxdamantus | but not that familiar with alsa, so my suspiciouns aren't strong. |
| 02:19.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's only defaults.pcm.dmix.rate 48000 |
| 02:19.42 | Maxdamantus | Not using dmix atm |
| 02:19.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | try slave dmix |
| 02:19.57 | Maxdamantus | dmix works, but so does plug, as long as I specify the rate. |
| 02:20.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
| 02:20.08 | Maxdamantus | pcm.!default.slave.rate 48000 |
| 02:20.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | use slave dmix for plug |
| 02:20.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm |
| 02:21.05 | Maxdamantus | using slave.pcm "hw:0,0" |
| 02:21.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, and it seems that has no proper rate spec |
| 02:21.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | while dmix has |
| 02:21.41 | Maxdamantus | Oh, I do need dmix to use multiple programs at once. |
| 02:21.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 02:22.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | so try: plug:dmix as device |
| 02:22.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | or plug:'dmix:0,0' |
| 02:23.10 | Maxdamantus | Hm. That works. |
| 02:23.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not fluent in this stuff anymore |
| 02:23.19 | Maxdamantus | without anything in /etc/asound.conf |
| 02:23.36 | Maxdamantus | the first one does |
| 02:24.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | etc/asound.conf is just a extension to /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf |
| 02:24.34 | Maxdamantus | Yeah, suspected that. |
| 02:24.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | basically you shouldn't need etc/asound.conf |
| 02:24.42 | Maxdamantus | just meant "without any extra configuration" |
| 02:25.00 | Maxdamantus | what about for configuring a default device? |
| 02:25.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | nor .asoundrc |
| 02:25.23 | Maxdamantus | if I leave it empty, just playing stuff with mplayer etc will work at the wrong rate, unless I specify a device. |
| 02:25.33 | sono | http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/314/f/e/world_no_tobacco_day_by_sternen_gaukler-d5wrgxe.jpg |
| 02:25.37 | sono | oops |
| 02:25.38 | sono | sorry about that. |
| 02:26.05 | Maxdamantus | can instead have pcm.!default { type plug; slave.pcm "dmix" } |
| 02:28.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | Maxdamantus: you might find some useful hints/inspirations in https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/twinklephone/conversations/topics/1731 |
| 02:29.06 | Maxdamantus | Creating a separate device and control for the ringer? |
| 02:29.12 | Maxdamantus | Yeah, I'd've done something like that. |
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| 02:32.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, I created a volume control for ringer, in alsamixer |
| 02:32.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | but it also shows some details about how to create a alsa plugin, and how to define slave |
| 02:33.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | nothing particularly exciting, once you read the ALSA plugin wikipage |
| 02:33.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/pcm_plugins.html |
| 02:34.24 | Maxdamantus | Yeah, I figured that out when alsa on my new computer (Haswell) wouldn't mix sound automatically for some reason. |
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| 02:35.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | wow, another one who actually learned some ALSA bits :-) |
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| 02:35.39 | Maxdamantus | some |
| 02:35.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I thought I'm the only one who ever did |
| 02:36.36 | Maxdamantus | eh, the orange LED went off. |
| 02:36.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, then you're set with the info that N900 hw can only do rate=48000 |
| 02:36.45 | Maxdamantus | Maybe it was charging. |
| 02:36.53 | Maxdamantus | or maybe it means it's about to run out of battery. |
| 02:37.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | it tries to "charge" to 3.6V, and it stops after 30min |
| 02:37.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flatbatrecover |
| 02:37.16 | infobot | Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber going off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover. CAVEAT! Only works when ~rootfs is OK (no ~bootloop)!. |
| 02:37.36 | Maxdamantus | the battery driver does, automatically? |
| 02:37.41 | Maxdamantus | (without userspace intervention) |
| 02:37.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | the chip does |
| 02:37.47 | Maxdamantus | Oh. |
| 02:37.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | NB 3.6V! |
| 02:38.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | which is closer to empty than to charged |
| 02:38.26 | Maxdamantus | it was longer than 30 minutes. |
| 02:38.38 | Maxdamantus | a few hours |
| 02:38.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | the chip timer is very random |
| 02:38.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | a few hours? |
| 02:38.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | duh! |
| 02:39.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, dunno which kernel modules you got |
| 02:40.23 | Maxdamantus | there were two battery-related modules in /lib/modules/`uname -r`, didn't check which were loaded. |
| 02:41.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | as soon as something talks to chip via I2C, it goes into guided mode / slave mode, which means it needs a watchdog tickle every 15s, otherwise it resets. In that mode the chip can get configured to charge to higher volatge, arbitrary current, and you can control the LED |
| 02:42.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | he chip is bq24150 |
| 02:42.28 | Maxdamantus | Mm .. it must've been charging .. rebooting back into Maemo shows 91% (the usual maximum charge) |
| 02:42.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe pali has upstreamed the kernel module |
| 02:43.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | afk |
| 02:43.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | o/ |
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| 03:06.23 | MrApathy | hello anyone around? |
| 03:07.56 | Maxdamantus | around what? |
| 03:08.53 | MrApathy | was curious if anyone was active here |
| 03:09.15 | MrApathy | lots people leave irc on and go do other stuff |
| 03:09.45 | Maxdamantus | does that. |
| 03:09.54 | Maxdamantus | but I'm here now. |
| 03:10.12 | MrApathy | was curious if there is a way to scroll up in busybox on maemo5 on nokia n900 |
| 03:10.33 | Maxdamantus | in the default terminal? |
| 03:10.40 | MrApathy | yeah |
| 03:10.49 | Maxdamantus | you should be able to scroll by dragging |
| 03:11.01 | Maxdamantus | you might need to click the cursor icon in the bottom left to toggle it. |
| 03:11.26 | Maxdamantus | (in one mode, dragging selects text, in the other, it scrolls) |
| 03:11.54 | MrApathy | hmm damn. your right thanks. |
| 03:12.21 | MrApathy | wish I could do a shift+page up as thats what I am used to in bash on linux boxes |
| 03:12.55 | MrApathy | was going to start a thread on maemo.org talk but decided to check here first. |
| 03:13.39 | Maxdamantus | I usually use it to ssh into my home computer and attach to a tmux session, so scrolling is done using f13-[ then using up/down/pgup/pgdown |
| 03:16.55 | MrApathy | havent toyed with tmux |
| 03:17.43 | MrApathy | havent done much of anything with linux for years except basic use. starting to get back into linux though and programming |
| 03:18.47 | MrApathy | having fun with bluetooth on the n900 and my debian box. can send stuff from n900 to pc but n900 doesnt want to receive files |
| 03:19.19 | MrApathy | setting the my deb box and n900 for debug |
| 03:20.20 | Maxdamantus | has only used the BT to act as a bridge between his computer and his PS3 controller. |
| 03:20.39 | Maxdamantus | should probably just get a USB BT dongle. |
| 03:21.08 | MrApathy | bluetooth can be nice but a bit finicky. obexftp is nice for transferring files when it works. |
| 03:22.10 | MrApathy | sometimes have to repair devices but not much else. |
| 03:27.21 | MrApathy | well thanks for tip have a good night or what it is where you are |
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| 11:59.45 | Ashley` | uh. |
| 12:00.05 | Ashley` | my dad bought an iphone 5 recently |
| 12:00.18 | Ashley` | this thing needs wifi and simcard to run >.< |
| 12:00.37 | joga | and one soul |
| 12:00.42 | Ashley` | of course, not normal simcard |
| 12:00.47 | Ashley` | nanosim! |
| 12:00.56 | joga | yeah I think you can carefully cut a bigger card into one |
| 12:01.06 | Ashley` | my dad don't want to |
| 12:01.21 | joga | then I guess he needs to pay for one |
| 12:01.22 | joga | :) |
| 12:01.24 | Ashley` | yeah |
| 12:01.27 | Ashley` | 25PLN |
| 12:02.38 | Ashley` | 5.9940368 Euros / 8.2424 U.S. dollars :P |
| 12:03.33 | Ashley` | when i turn on my n900 for "first" time (when i take off battery :P), i only have to enter date |
| 12:03.35 | Ashley` | oh wait |
| 12:03.50 | Ashley` | i dont have to, because it's already there. i just need to click "save" |
| 12:04.03 | joga | should get it from the operator anyway |
| 12:04.33 | joga | the date/time chooser thingy is so abhorrent it's a waste of time messing with it |
| 12:10.51 | ShadowJK | that UI was supposed to bgecome UI for everythig |
| 12:11.10 | ShadowJK | but they ran out of time :) |
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| 12:44.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | I dare to say: date/time picker slotmachine is the most idiotic idea I ever ran into |
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| 12:45.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | Ashley`: raplce your bupbat and you don't need to worry about setting new date & time at all, after swapping battery |
| 12:45.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bupbat |
| 12:45.36 | infobot | somebody said bupbat was use the capacitive type, LiIon are breaking during 12 months, or http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/PAS414HR-VG1/587-2157-1-ND/1959153, or https://hbe-shop.de/Art-2112777-TAIYO-YUDEN-PAS414HR-VA5R-KONDENSATOR006F-33V-STAKED-COIN, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90864 |
| 12:47.18 | Ashley` | joga: "13:04:03 <joga> should get it from the operator anyway "\ |
| 12:47.29 | Ashley` | that's what i meant by " i dont have to, because it's already there." |
| 12:47.56 | Ashley` | 13:45:32 <DocScrutinizer05> Ashley`: raplce your bupbat and you don't need to worry about setting new date & time at all, after swapping battery |
| 12:48.08 | Ashley` | isn't there a way to just disable that dialog? |
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| 12:48.54 | Ashley` | my phone works without that bupbat thing fine :v |
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| 12:51.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | there probably is actually a way to disable/skip this dialog. I haven't managed to find the time looking into it though. Should be somewhere in initscripts or .xsession |
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| 13:30.14 | sono | aooohja. |
| 13:30.22 | sono | eh sry |
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| 13:44.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((works without that bupbat thing fine)) mine usually does too, except for the little annoyance that the date&time picker dialog is faster than the time telegram from my carrier, and the dialog doesn't notice when in background the system time gets set |
| 13:45.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | often it annoys me so much that I rather simply reboot when date&time dialog pops up, on second boot the time is set correctly |
| 14:53.15 | RiD | my carrier does not send time info |
| 14:53.37 | RiD | i just switch batteries fast enough for it to not reset |
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| 16:00.33 | Sc0rpius | I just noticed that a promoted a package way long time ago and it never reached extras |
| 16:00.36 | Sc0rpius | :( |
| 16:13.10 | MrPingu | which package? |
| 16:14.01 | Sc0rpius | yappari |
| 16:14.15 | Sc0rpius | it should have 1.1.44 in Extras free armel |
| 16:14.19 | Sc0rpius | http://maemo.org/packages/view/yappari/ |
| 16:40.07 | RST38h | Ahahaha |
| 16:40.24 | RST38h | Google finally broke SD card access. |
| 16:53.01 | thedead1440 | ? |
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| 18:24.56 | Nokius | firmware |
| 18:26.02 | Nokius | Hi is there a mirror of the N900 firmware? |
| 18:26.32 | Nokius | Looks like that Nokia turned of the Server :( |
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| 18:47.15 | thedead1440 | ~emmc |
| 18:47.15 | infobot | well, emmc is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:402fb5cc8a48ecbc18a77c9cf70d869a775bcf53&dn=RX-51%5F2009SE%5F10.2010.13-2.VANILLA%5FPR%5FEMMC%5FMR0%5FARM.bin or https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4105928/RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.torrent, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 18:47.25 | thedead1440 | ~rootfs |
| 18:47.26 | infobot | rootfs: the content of the storage volume mounted under /, on NAND mtd5 partition. Also called "the system", since it's all the files forming the linux core system (except the kernel itself). Reflash rootfs from COMBINED (see ~flashing). Also see ~bootloop |
| 18:47.34 | thedead1440 | ~flashing |
| 18:47.35 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 18:48.13 | thedead1440 | Nokius: you can get the emmc from above; for rootfs download it from mrcrab.net |
| 18:49.53 | Nokius | thedead1440: Thanks :D |
| 18:50.00 | thedead1440 | np |
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| 20:15.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: still alive? |
| 20:16.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | judging by my detached-from-reality level I'm 4h ahead of my time |
| 20:17.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: when you wanna quit SB maintenance, please send an official mail, to board, council, community |
| 20:17.11 | Sc0rpius | repositories are working? |
| 20:17.17 | Sc0rpius | or more exactly, cron jobs ? |
| 20:17.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | should |
| 20:17.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | which f****ng cron jobs? |
| 20:17.57 | Sc0rpius | the ones that promote packages, upload packages from builder to extras/devel, etc. |
| 20:18.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooooooooh, you talk about server side?!? |
| 20:18.28 | Sc0rpius | yeah |
| 20:18.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | ask CHEMIST |
| 20:18.34 | Sc0rpius | okay |
| 20:18.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm out of tht loop |
| 20:19.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm THE ASSHOLE because I took care about stuff for 15 months |
| 20:20.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | now I can'T find words to tell you how *F*E*D* *U*P* I am with maemo |
| 20:21.03 | Sc0rpius | hehe |
| 20:21.29 | Sc0rpius | what about the Neo900 project? are you still with it? |
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| 20:24.25 | bencoh | uuh, what ? |
| 20:25.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | certs expire in two weeks, I mailed HiFo and council about it. Me: "I'm not going to take care about such stuff anymore, since "my mission got accomplished" according to notion of board" Chemist's answer: "And this is how it hits us now..." (my answer: "GTFO!") |
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| 20:28.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | homestly, when I seek for punishment, I got local options that are WAY better than anything chemist offers |
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| 20:31.33 | zamm | hello... why cutetube so buggy? |
| 20:32.04 | nox- | i guess youtube changed things since it was last updated? |
| 20:32.10 | nox- | (again) |
| 20:32.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry maemo community, but I'm **definitely** ged up with some assholes bitching at me for not doing stuff the right way 12 months back when nobody but me did anything. Particularly when now those assholdes start going Machiavelli and think they can kill me with my actions taken 12 months ago when those assholes were not around to do *ANYTHING* |
| 20:32.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/get/fed/ |
| 20:32.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/ged/fed/ |
| 20:33.09 | zamm | lolz? |
| 20:33.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | keep that for the ime when HiFo heritage goes managing maemo.org! |
| 20:34.47 | zamm | :( |
| 20:34.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | there are some guys with a massive self-esteem deficit&problem |
| 20:34.52 | zamm | :'( |
| 20:35.04 | zamm | really crying |
| 20:35.15 | zamm | all mek me think sadly |
| 20:35.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | I stopped puking 4 weeks ago |
| 20:35.40 | zamm | puking? |
| 20:35.46 | zamm | ged up? |
| 20:35.57 | zamm | i dont know some word |
| 20:36.49 | zamm | I will downgrade cutetube before 1.9.1 |
| 20:37.47 | zamm | then I will say again cutetube is sucking if I won't solve and then youtube is upgrading fucking up all is the right thing to think |
| 20:38.19 | zamm | :'( |
| 20:38.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | what else than puke when HiFo tells you: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2014-March/005953.html etc pp |
| 20:39.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | HiFo is an incompetent bunch that has some agressive-offensive members |
| 20:41.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually HiFo killed maemo recently |
| 20:41.52 | zamm | :'( |
| 20:41.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 20:42.01 | zamm | what does that mean |
| 20:42.05 | zamm | :'( |
| 20:42.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | butr sorry, I can't cope with it anymore |
| 20:42.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | it means I'm out of business, and good luck maemo, whoever you are |
| 20:42.59 | zamm | :'( |
| 20:43.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | *I* don't need maemo, and *I* don't get off on getting beaten |
| 20:43.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | F U !!! |
| 20:44.00 | zamm | me? |
| 20:44.03 | zamm | :'( |
| 20:45.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | not you |
| 20:45.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | some ot the hierarchy-way-up |
| 20:45.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | (but not as high as they think they are) |
| 20:45.41 | zamm | hackers? |
| 20:45.55 | zamm | are they overtaking? |
| 20:46.05 | zamm | is repository changing? |
| 20:46.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don'z care |
| 20:46.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | I got my backups, and I got my bitch to handle the whip. don't need HiFo for that, that doesn't turn me on |
| 20:47.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm going tpo step down from all positions in maemo, fuck dat shite |
| 20:48.19 | zamm | alright |
| 20:48.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | when I'm searching for idiots, I can find plenty in a 150m radius |
| 20:48.36 | zamm | I hope all will be restored better than before |
| 20:48.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | by whom? |
| 20:48.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL |
| 20:49.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | by a chemist who got no clue how maemo.org works? |
| 20:49.16 | zamm | DocScrutinizer05!!!! :'( |
| 20:49.30 | zamm | by you |
| 20:49.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, dude. I have to take care about my own psyche |
| 20:50.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's WAAAY beyond the limit |
| 20:50.09 | zamm | lol |
| 20:50.16 | zamm | ok |
| 20:50.28 | zamm | I could not imagine that |
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| 20:50.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | read those ML threads and you get a glimpse |
| 20:51.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | about idiots bashing me for not doing what they thoufgt I should |
| 20:52.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't count on me, call me qwerty123 |
| 20:53.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly for 100 dudes interested in maeo and 10 of them are really rogue and nuts, it#s not worth it |
| 20:53.44 | zamm | oh my... |
| 20:54.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm too old for that idiotic shit |
| 20:55.01 | zamm | get easy holydays |
| 20:55.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/796e8ab248 |
| 20:55.12 | zamm | get long break |
| 20:56.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/126f3cef6a |
| 20:57.06 | nox- | startcom certs are free afaik |
| 20:57.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | NB this idiot had the instruction to stay 24/7 online on IRC in #maemo-admin but now asks silly questions that been aswered in this channel |
| 20:58.47 | honestly | nox-: well, there is a free tier. |
| 20:58.54 | zamm | alright... but you must take long break |
| 20:59.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | those certs were free, I crrated them |
| 20:59.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | when a idiot asks "why wheren't those created for HiFo??" - what the fuck am I answering? |
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| 21:00.08 | Sicelo | :-/ |
| 21:00.13 | nox- | yeah :/ |
| 21:01.00 | nox- | theres a german word, "vereinsmeierei" :( |
| 21:01.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | "Dear sir Chemist! those certs got not issued on name of HiFo because HiFo been totally APESHIT when we needed those" |
| 21:01.34 | nox- | heh |
| 21:02.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, forget about my name, I leave maemo |
| 21:02.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | they managed to fuck me thoroughly |
| 21:02.31 | nox- | :( |
| 21:02.45 | zamm | wtf |
| 21:02.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | Rob, Woody, Chemist... |
| 21:03.00 | nox- | its been nice while it lasted... |
| 21:03.21 | zamm | just keep in mind to rest your intentions and yout minded ideas you are shooting now |
| 21:03.21 | Sicelo | seems the problme has more 'personal' elements than 'business' elements. |
| 21:03.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | I really got better ways to waste my time |
| 21:03.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: i DON'T GIVE A FUCK |
| 21:03.55 | zamm | you can't be serious right now DocScrutinizer05 |
| 21:04.09 | zamm | just take your time |
| 21:04.19 | zamm | break this routine |
| 21:04.23 | zamm | go far |
| 21:04.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | I missed that opportunity to take my time. I's all set now |
| 21:04.35 | zamm | take long break |
| 21:05.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | in 4..8 weeks new council gets elected. And I AM NOT ONE of the candidates |
| 21:05.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | FUCK YOU chemist, woody, rob |
| 21:05.27 | zamm | I will talk if needed |
| 21:05.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | win7mac |
| 21:05.43 | zamm | but you must take your time |
| 21:05.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't 2must" anything |
| 21:06.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm out |
| 21:06.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | byebye maemo |
| 21:06.32 | zamm | this isshit |
| 21:06.40 | zamm | can't be |
| 21:06.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I will prolly still linger around on IRC, and that's it |
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| 21:07.02 | zamm | maemo-unofficial can be |
| 21:07.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | I hate to have to deal with idiots like chemist or woody |
| 21:07.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's not worth it |
| 21:07.36 | zamm | ban that ones |
| 21:07.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I got better tasks to do |
| 21:07.51 | zamm | make maemo-unofficial |
| 21:07.57 | zamm | and ban the ones |
| 21:07.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh! |
| 21:08.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | it all already exists |
| 21:08.26 | zamm | lol?? |
| 21:09.05 | bencoh | ? |
| 21:09.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | but "the officials are sissies" that didn't know what it means to accept some responsibility and try to keep an community effort alive |
| 21:10.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | nobody is interested in council. Last HiFo board *I* conviced 100% of the members to run for elections |
| 21:10.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | and now we got that mess. it's my fault. so I take the consequences |
| 21:12.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not willing to help conduct a next election based on dunno-which-rules, with a broken infra that doesn't support karma |
| 21:12.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | with a board that's bitching on me "this is how it hits us now" |
| 21:13.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | FUCK YOU (except the omes present) |
| 21:13.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly go die in a place I can't see, please! |
| 21:14.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I got my backups |
| 21:14.10 | honestly | DocScrutinizer05: ): what did I do |
| 21:14.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not available anymore, for *anything* |
| 21:14.54 | bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: mirrored repos and all ? |
| 21:15.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | guess! |
| 21:15.16 | zamm | yes that what cares |
| 21:15.19 | zamm | matter |
| 21:15.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | ask chemist to run this pile of stinking mess |
| 21:16.08 | zamm | loooool |
| 21:16.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | n8 |
| 21:17.02 | zamm | my... gosh |
| 21:17.07 | zamm | can't be |
| 21:17.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's reality |
| 21:18.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen generalantilles |
| 21:18.08 | infobot | generalantilles is currently on #maemo #harmattan, last said: 'They only have 2 pages of open applications.'. |
| 21:18.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen jaffa |
| 21:18.08 | infobot | jaffa is currently on #maemo, last said: 'Fairy nuff'. |
| 21:18.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | question: when has this been said? |
| 21:19.42 | zamm | doesn elaborate |
| 21:19.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | chemist and his chuck norris way to handle things doesn't please me |
| 21:20.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | and about win7mac I don't want to lose a single word |
| 21:20.03 | zamm | ahahhhahhahhhah |
| 21:20.13 | zamm | you were our bruce lee |
| 21:20.23 | zamm | who beated him and never died |
| 21:20.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | sens autograph cards to DocScrutinizer05 |
| 21:20.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | send* |
| 21:21.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | cya |
| 21:21.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | and GOOs LUCK! |
| 21:21.22 | zamm | where you will go? |
| 21:21.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | offline - for maemo official business |
| 21:21.56 | zamm | and over IRC? |
| 21:22.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm +o in this channel (rhe only active one left over). I won't stop this |
| 21:23.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | luckily HiFo has no saying in IRC |
| 21:23.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | so |
| 21:23.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~pr131 |
| 21:23.49 | infobot | combined is, like, the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ |
| 21:23.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~emmc |
| 21:23.54 | infobot | rumour has it, emmc is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:402fb5cc8a48ecbc18a77c9cf70d869a775bcf53&dn=RX-51%5F2009SE%5F10.2010.13-2.VANILLA%5FPR%5FEMMC%5FMR0%5FARM.bin or https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4105928/RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.torrent, or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 21:23.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flasher |
| 21:23.59 | infobot | somebody said flasher was at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ |
| 21:24.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | will all linger on, and get updated |
| 21:25.25 | *** join/#maemo jabis (~jabis@vps001.pumppumedia.com) |
| 21:25.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | otjher than that, I'm fed up with 80% of what "maemo"means |
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| 21:25.52 | nox- | are you still working on neo900? |
| 21:26.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | The OS is cool, the community has a fatal tendency to make assholes their loudest represents |
| 21:26.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | nox-: you bet on that |
| 21:26.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-D |
| 21:27.19 | bencoh | :) |
| 21:27.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I have the power to not even sell a device to guys who I suspect mught be (ex-)members of HiFo |
| 21:28.46 | bencoh | hmm |
| 21:29.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | a cheers to our sysops, who got shamefuly abandoned by me, so they now have to deal with hiFo themselves |
| 21:30.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, I can't handle it anymore |
| 21:30.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's a limit of idiocy I can deal with |
| 21:33.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | up to you, the *community* now |
| 21:34.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | I have more meaningful tasks to fulfill, and more honest battles to win |
| 21:34.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't forget there should be elections in 6 weeks max! |
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| 21:36.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't give a shit anymore about sending out announcements or finding candidates or setting up the machine just in time |
| 21:36.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/shit/*S*H*I*T*/ |
| 21:37.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | wiki karma broken... WHO CARES? I mentioned it 5 months ago |
| 21:38.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | I *bet* chemist has a solution for that |
| 21:40.28 | zamm | DocScrutinizer05 can I have the script of your wonderful bot? |
| 21:43.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | which bot? |
| 21:43.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | some say *I* am a bot |
| 21:44.05 | zamm | infobot |
| 21:44.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | Welcome to the infobot channel || Latest version: 1.5.3 @ https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2241 || SVN: 1.5.4 http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ || Blootbot merged into infobot || apt/ibot/infobot/purl run by TimRiker |
| 21:44.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~owner |
| 21:44.42 | infobot | TimRiker is my owner |
| 21:44.44 | zamm | well zi am not interest yet |
| 21:45.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | estel_* never groked it |
| 21:45.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not owner of infobot |
| 21:45.56 | zamm | ok |
| 21:46.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | though I earned asmin permissions |
| 21:46.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | admn* |
| 21:46.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh |
| 21:47.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack |
| 21:47.21 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: thanks |
| 21:49.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: stop talking silly |
| 21:49.47 | infobot | ACTION leaps to his feet and stops talking silly |
| 21:51.09 | honestly | ...heh |
| 21:53.32 | Sicelo | i setup ActiveSync on my N900 a while ago, using an Outlook.com address. What I notice recently is that somehow calendar syncing gets disabled on the N900 randomly. if i reenable it, it works for a while, the gets disabled again. anyone else observed similar behaviour with AS, or who might have a potential fix? |
| 21:57.40 | Sc0rpius | I'm amazed ActiveSync still works |
| 21:57.59 | Sc0rpius | I have never used it myself |
| 22:11.17 | Sc0rpius | actually I'm amazed that some people still use the N900 (including me) |
| 22:12.08 | bencoh | I don't see any reason why we shouldnt :) |
| 22:12.57 | Sc0rpius | Sailfish OS released a version for the Nexus 4 |
| 22:13.01 | Sc0rpius | isn't that tempting? :P |
| 22:13.51 | Sc0rpius | actually Jolla released it |
| 22:16.01 | anYc | but not ready for daily use afaik |
| 22:19.34 | bencoh | Sc0rpius: nope :) |
| 22:20.25 | bencoh | (RIL and jolla's frankenstein kernel arent tempting for me ;) |
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| 23:29.30 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, you desperately need some down time. |
