| 00:00.16 | Maxdamantus | Well, Fennec is still available for Android. |
| 00:00.30 | Maxdamantus | I suspect a lot of people will be using it there. |
| 00:01.45 | Maxdamantus | (note that "Fennec" is Mozilla's codename for the project, like "Shiretoko" for the browser, etc .. they're both just branded as "Firefox") |
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| 00:04.11 | Maxdamantus | oh, it's not called Shiretoko now. |
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| 13:51.12 | raccoon_ | Agge, Lynx-z et al: i actually found the main flashing article (on maemo wiki) very useful.. did the entire procedure a couple of times yesterday just to get the hang of it. i guess the hardest part was finding the correct firmware; however there are md5 checksussums, DHT hashes and filenames available for that part. keeping mirrors online to support legacy is _hard_. better make sure required metadata (checksums and filenames) are avilable everywhere than ... |
| 13:51.18 | raccoon_ | ... keeping a certain mirror online forever |
| 13:51.33 | raccoon_ | that same argument goes for the flasher software too i guess |
| 13:52.17 | Agge | yeah fond the same thing when I flashed my n900 about a year ago |
| 13:53.16 | kolp__ | has something changed or has microb always been a massive memory hog and brought the system almost to a complete halt when browsing almost any website? |
| 13:57.12 | raccoon_ | Agge: i did not however feel i got the hang of it until reading it all through a couple of times; but as mentioned earlier in the channel that's probably inevitable since "flashing <most> maemo devices using <different kinds of> computers" is a pretty general topic. if you really want to make an effort rewriting the flashing guides i would suggest you focus on N900 and N900 only |
| 13:57.40 | raccoon_ | or, rather, the actual devices you have in front of you and could test with when writing the docs. |
| 13:57.48 | Agge | ofcorse. I dont have access to any of the other ones so I couldent test it on them |
| 13:59.01 | raccoon_ | oh and the article im referring to is this one https://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Development_Environment/Maemo_Flasher-3.5 |
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| 14:03.29 | Agge | that one looks less confused then https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware |
| 14:04.10 | raccoon_ | yeah i think the problem with the article you linked is that it tries to deliver an updated account for flashing "all" modern maemo devices |
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| 15:19.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's more a problem of PC side than Nxxx Maemo NIT side |
| 15:20.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | and of course a problem of internet, with tis changing URLs and nom-stable sites |
| 15:20.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | its* |
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| 15:22.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | and we *frequently* seen noobs editing that ~flasjing article to include their own unrelated experience they generalized. Like "make sure you don't use black USB cables" or whatever |
| 15:22.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | or "count to 4 and then press the enter key..." |
| 15:23.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | or "works on 3rd try" etc pp |
| 15:25.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | "you must not hold the 'U' key, this is false info" - which obviously is BS since for *N900* it's not mandatory to hold 'U' key but still helps, while for N8x0 it *is* mandatory |
| 15:26.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's a pretty good reason for every single detail in that tutorial |
| 15:27.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's quite awkward formatted and structured, admittedly |
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