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| 00:29.00 | Ashley` | ~nokiabinaries |
| 00:29.00 | infobot | nokiabinaries is, like, at http://repository.maemo.org/dists/maemo5.0/4bc37c7c77ebe90177c050b805a8dc79/nokia-binaries/ |
| 00:32.01 | Ashley` | infobot: thanks |
| 00:32.01 | infobot | no problem, Ashley` |
| 00:32.04 | Ashley` | :D |
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| 04:39.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly: see |
| 04:39.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~pr131 |
| 04:39.41 | infobot | from memory, combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin (or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/ ) |
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| 05:22.22 | hxka | DocScrutinizer05: it's combined image, not emmc, which he wants |
| 05:50.22 | Luke-Jr | why do these Maemo election emails not have a Date header? -.- |
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| 05:52.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | hxka: ooh |
| 05:52.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | Luke-Jr: sorry? |
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| 05:59.55 | Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer05: I just noticed them when I was accidentally scrolled to the "before all dated emails" end of my email list :P |
| 06:01.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, maybe you should clean out your email once a year |
| 06:02.07 | japa-fi | honestly, I didn't even know the amount of popup crap it spews as I use adblock with firefox. Anyway, aside from the ads, it's trustworthy. You get what you pay for. It's free. |
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| 06:02.46 | japa-fi | honestly, and the file: I uploaded it for you yesterday. |
| 06:03.41 | japa-fi | honestly, I can try dcc or some other means of delivery to send it to you if required. |
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| 06:12.15 | hxka | magnet:?xt=urn:btih:402fb5cc8a48ecbc18a77c9cf70d869a775bcf53&dn=RX-51%5F2009SE%5F10.2010.13-2.VANILLA%5FPR%5FEMMC%5FMR0%5FARM.bin |
| 06:19.38 | japa-fi | hxka, if you can provide an actual .torrent file, I can also seed the file |
| 06:20.05 | hxka | M-m, I haven't created any |
| 06:20.22 | Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer05: that'd take forever |
| 06:20.42 | japa-fi | I have a buggy version of transmission client on my NAS, it doesn't cope well with magnets.. |
| 06:20.46 | Luke-Jr | my inbox alone has 33k unread out of 51k total |
| 06:26.34 | japa-fi | frack, some port apparently closed as I was unable to receive the file |
| 06:28.57 | hxka | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4105928/RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.torrent |
| 06:29.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | Luke-Jr: delete it |
| 06:30.53 | japa-fi | hxka, thanks, got it. |
| 06:31.22 | Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer05: haha, maybe someday |
| 06:31.34 | japa-fi | (and yes, it was my misconfigured NAT that killed the DCC) |
| 06:31.39 | japa-fi | now seeding the file.. |
| 06:32.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | Luke-Jr: I know exactly what you're talking about, I had almost same (just number of read mails been 10 times as high), I tell you it's useless masochism and torture |
| 06:33.10 | hxka | infobot: emms is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:402fb5cc8a48ecbc18a77c9cf70d869a775bcf53&dn=RX-51%5F2009SE%5F10.2010.13-2.VANILLA%5FPR%5FEMMC%5FMR0%5FARM.bin or https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4105928/RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.torrent |
| 06:33.10 | infobot | hxka: okay |
| 06:36.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | umm |
| 06:37.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | emms? really? |
| 06:37.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo emmc is magnet:?xt=urn:btih:402fb5cc8a48ecbc18a77c9cf70d869a775bcf53&dn=RX-51%5F2009SE%5F10.2010.13-2.VANILLA%5FPR%5FEMMC%5FMR0%5FARM.bin or https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4105928/RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.torrent |
| 06:37.53 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 06:47.55 | hxka | oops |
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| 08:00.00 | Maxdamantus | wonders if there's some official HFOV or something for the camera on the N900. |
| 08:00.27 | Maxdamantus | calculated it to be about 55.58 on paper, which seems to work alright with a panorama I made. |
| 08:01.18 | Maxdamantus | seems slightly off though. |
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| 08:08.37 | Maxdamantus | https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Maxdamantus/a97cac861834e894d7e2/raw/cda01b9320ae9eac91d70253406c7cd5aa42c7d0/20140221_002-20140221_006_blended_fused.jpg |
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| 09:08.02 | hxka | http://www.geeksphone.com/ |
| 09:08.12 | hxka | Laughed at 'Alternative OS' |
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| 09:58.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.geeksphone.com/#the-heart funny picture, funny rationale given, really funny creative use of the term >>extraordinary battery life<< |
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| 10:01.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I'm already pondering to put all pages with silly "this site is usong cookies" notifiers on my personal blacklist. Particularly when they are so stupid they don't vanish even when they detect cookies being blocked and OTOH have no close button |
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| 10:03.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/21/plasma-desktopad3389.png where the heck is the "I don't agree" button?! |
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| 10:05.20 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: heh |
| 10:05.43 | jon_y | I think its the close window button |
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| 10:51.49 | honestly | japa-fi: oh no, I'm fine (: |
| 10:52.33 | honestly | japa-fi: could you verify the sha256sum for me? |
| 10:52.35 | honestly | be0a1c9fde0ccc281ef5337fdb31ea35332d32a51b40200fbff63803dc7fb5f0 RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 10:55.07 | japa-fi | be0a1c9fde0ccc281ef5337fdb31ea35332d32a51b40200fbff63803dc7fb5f0 RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 10:55.13 | japa-fi | looks the same to me |
| 10:57.03 | honestly | nice |
| 10:57.57 | japa-fi | fyi: I opted for fichier some years ago when looking for a sharing service which allow ftp uploads, has suitable amount of space available etc. and is of free cost. |
| 10:58.37 | japa-fi | I've always used adblock so it was kind of surprise to see the site at some point without adblock. "My eyes!!! AAAArrrhh, I'm blind" :) |
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| 13:29.42 | honestly | oh this is great. leaving the battery in the n900 for four days was apparently a really bad idea. |
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| 13:56.03 | Guest906 | does not charge anymore? |
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| 14:15.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | eh? |
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| 14:18.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | neither is leaving battery in device for days or weeks a particularly bad or unusual idea, nor will it stop charging even when you depleted the battery completely by running the device for up to 10 days (my record, with WLAN active) |
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| 15:04.33 | ChiaSmurf | although when i left my h2200 batteries on charger for a year, as a clock, they both expanded and messed up |
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| 15:18.30 | Ashley` | https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/d158fc7f36a25e19791d25a55da5623399a2644f/fs/ext4/resize.c#L698-700 |
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| 15:20.08 | hxka | > three = 1 |
| 15:20.11 | hxka | okay |
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| 16:52.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ChiaSmurf: err, yeah. And when you leave a AAA in your flashlight and switch it on, then after a year the battery leaks |
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| 18:06.04 | honestly | fully flashed my n900... booting now... let's see if it manages to boot |
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| 18:07.19 | honestly | woo |
| 18:07.24 | honestly | my n900 is back from the dead |
| 18:07.32 | honestly | many thanks to everyone who helped :D |
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| 18:21.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 18:23.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | you flashed your N900 becuase battery was empty? Or you left battery inside a N900 that doesn't boot and thus also doesn't shut down correctly? either way sounds odd |
| 18:23.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I wonder how you managed to flasg when battery been empty |
| 18:23.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | flash, even |
| 18:24.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | or what's been the meaning of [2014-02-21 14:29:42] <honestly> oh this is great. leaving the battery in the n900 for four days was apparently a really bad idea. |
| 18:25.36 | honestly | DocScrutinizer05: I got really, really lucky |
| 18:25.53 | honestly | I had a spare battery that for some reason still had charge in it |
| 18:25.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | or really really confused ;-) |
| 18:26.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaaah! :-D |
| 18:26.18 | honestly | no, I had to reflash the phone because it had the "stuck at flashing lights" problem |
| 18:26.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 18:28.12 | honestly | I had fully charged the battery in preparation for reflashing |
| 18:28.20 | honestly | but then I didn't have the vanilla image |
| 18:28.28 | honestly | and it took a few days to get it |
| 18:28.38 | honestly | or rather I was busy for a few days |
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| 18:59.48 | ChiaSmurf | yea , DocScrutinizer05 , but the difference between the flashlight and my h2200 was i had it sitting on the cradle charging both batteries |
| 19:11.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I have no idea what's a h2200. But evidently it's crap that kills batteries thanks to abysmally poor charger design |
| 19:13.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | my "t900" is sitting here 24/7 on since ~3 or 4 years now, on charger, with battery. and the battery is still like new |
| 19:14.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, for some reason I booted it |
| 19:14.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# uptime |
| 19:14.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops |
| 19:15.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | not much better, but... |
| 19:15.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# uptime |
| 19:15.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:16.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaaah, I think syslog clogged rootfs |
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| 19:19.09 | ChiaSmurf | ipaq h2200, old pocketpc |
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| 19:20.35 | ChiaSmurf | just saying there is a limit to how long you can leave a battery in a device |
| 19:21.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | no there isn't |
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| 19:21.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | not immanently, only when device is crap |
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| 19:23.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, incorrect. There for sure is a limit. Like maybe 30 years or somesuch |
| 19:24.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | depends a bit on quality of the LiIon cell (unless we talk about all arbitrary types of batteries here) |
| 19:24.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | for a zinc-carbon battery it's around 3 years, for alkaline around 10 |
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| 19:25.40 | ChiaSmurf | well, im not an electrical engineer, so ok, maybe my power is poor quality |
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| 19:26.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, can't parse that |
| 19:26.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | your power? |
| 19:26.45 | ChiaSmurf | my house power |
| 19:27.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's usually quite unrelated |
| 19:27.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | again, unlesss your charger is crap |
| 19:27.33 | ChiaSmurf | which could be crap because of my crappy house power |
| 19:27.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | or your electric power is really really messed up, with blackouts every other day |
| 19:28.17 | ChiaSmurf | no blackouts, but i hear a trranformer pop about once a month in my neighborhood |
| 19:28.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | weird |
| 19:28.45 | ChiaSmurf | and of couse a blackout when its the one on my road |
| 19:29.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | generally a really good LiIon charger should keep the cell floating at slightly reduced voltage, and cells survive this for years |
| 19:31.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | chargers with lower quality charge and keep floating the cell at max voltage, which isn't as healthy to cells but should still work for more than a year |
| 19:32.50 | ChiaSmurf | on an unrelated topic, the built in chip rom/ram/thingy, i forgot whats it called, what the rootfs is on, do you know its speed? i tried googling, but i cant find anything |
| 19:33.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually chargers do trickle charge at max voltage though, with a cycle time of several minutes to maybe even hours, and that's what the charger in my t900 does, since it's running PR1.2 still |
| 19:33.41 | ChiaSmurf | i thought id get the fastest sd i could get in it and follow the guide for moving the rootfs to it |
| 19:33.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's NAND |
| 19:34.08 | ChiaSmurf | on the n900 |
| 19:34.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | and it's usually better than uSD storage |
| 19:35.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, for speed-up it's useless to move rootfs from NAND to uSD or eMMC |
| 19:35.16 | ChiaSmurf | i wasnt looking more for convience than speed up |
| 19:35.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | what makes a hell of a difference is moving swap fron eMMC to a fast uSD |
| 19:35.54 | ChiaSmurf | 90mbps is about the fastest an sd will do in a n900? |
| 19:36.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | how, having rootfs on MMC more convenient than NAND? |
| 19:36.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | how's |
| 19:36.36 | ChiaSmurf | wont run out of room |
| 19:37.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're not supposed to ever run out of space on rootfs. That's why we got optification and /home/opt and /home/user |
| 19:37.56 | ChiaSmurf | yea, and those seem rather inconvient |
| 19:37.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | (unless you're running syslog in /var/log/, like I do ;-P ) |
| 19:38.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | I promise, you'll feel less convenient with de-optifying everything |
| 19:39.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | and with moving rootfs to a strange location |
| 19:40.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway unless you understand that, you better shouldn't try to mess with rootfs location |
| 19:40.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's not exactly trivial |
| 19:41.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually it's even almost impossible to get rid of a working rootfs on NAND and still make the device boot |
| 19:41.52 | ChiaSmurf | i could just leave that as an rescue system tho? |
| 19:42.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | you'll at very least need a uBoot with kernel on NAND rootfs |
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| 19:42.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, you could, but it won't earn you any little bit of convenience |
| 19:43.43 | ChiaSmurf | well id like to install slackware arm on it eventually |
| 19:44.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | instead you're running into trouble again and again. Every singkle time you reflash, you have to do all the setup again. Updates won't work as usual, several tools don't work as expected, even installation of packages may not work as expected |
| 19:45.41 | ChiaSmurf | well id hope i dont have to reflash often |
| 19:46.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can't simply install another arbitrary distro to the device, as main/sole OS |
| 19:46.30 | ChiaSmurf | i know everything wont work |
| 19:47.09 | ChiaSmurf | i see arch works mostly |
| 19:47.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ohwell, good luck |
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| 21:40.12 | raijin | anyone active? |
| 21:40.30 | raijin | i really really want to get quassel2go working |
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| 21:47.25 | merlin1991 | where's the problem? |
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| 22:09.53 | Ashley` | I want pacman on maemo ; |
| 22:09.54 | Ashley` | _; |
| 22:10.08 | Ashley` | (/me is trying to make a package) |
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| 22:24.15 | raininja | oh |
| 22:25.28 | raininja | the problem so far has been, seemingly, that qt creator refuses to allow any import of projects using cmake without focing the desktop target, and i think it is because of the cmake makefile generator mechanism |
| 22:25.33 | raininja | @merlin1991 |
| 22:26.09 | raininja | i know my qt creator + N9 works; i can build stuff, use it, and kill it |
| 22:26.24 | raininja | i even built the QML portion of quassel2go |
| 22:26.46 | raininja | so I guess I have to try to use cmake on the command line to build it manually |
| 22:27.02 | raininja | I am taking my time, sussing out the cmake switches |
| 22:27.32 | raininja | i am also installing scratchbox |
| 22:28.00 | raininja | but, i really do not need it, as the demo apps prove my setup functions, i think |
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| 23:08.33 | sixwheeledbeast | Ashley`: njam? |
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| 23:17.59 | Ashley` | hm? |
