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| 01:15.10 | Maxdamantus | weird .. is the usual 2.6.28 kernel known to be problematic with g_file_storage with 64 GiB devices? |
| 01:15.28 | Maxdamantus | [351556.174106] Buffer I/O error on device sdf, logical block 7078910 |
| 01:15.29 | Maxdamantus | [351557.729225] sdg: detected capacity change from 63864569856 to 0 |
| 01:15.36 | Maxdamantus | (from the host) |
| 01:16.05 | Maxdamantus | I seem to be able to dd the SD card fine on the phone. |
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| 03:20.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | Maxdamantus: sounds like IO-error, iow a bad block on card or a glitch in interface |
| 03:20.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe simply overheating? |
| 03:20.37 | Maxdamantus | Yeah, I noticed it happens on my laptop as well. |
| 03:21.12 | Maxdamantus | but I can copy it with dd on the phone, laptop, and a USB card reader. |
| 03:22.01 | Maxdamantus | are MicroSD cards known to cause block errors when overheating? |
| 03:25.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | all electronics are known to fail when overheating |
| 03:26.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | except some very special designs that rather fail when too cold ;-) |
| 03:27.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | one more pupular example: sulfur battery |
| 03:27.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | popular* |
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| 03:28.58 | Maxdamantus | maybe I should've said "from" instead of "when". |
| 03:29.40 | Maxdamantus | like .. how do you overheat a harddrive? |
| 03:29.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? easily |
| 03:30.04 | Maxdamantus | it would probably be fairly uncommon for HDs to fail from overheating. |
| 03:30.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | au contraire |
| 03:30.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | there are towers with dedicated fans for the HDD slots |
| 03:31.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I fail to see how's that related to a uSD stopping to work because it exceeded maximum operating temperature |
| 03:32.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | of course such failure will regularly show as IO-error |
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| 06:32.13 | silviof | Hi, the three toolchains "cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7", "cs2007q3-glibc2.5-i486" and the thumb-tc are state of the art for the n900? |
| 06:34.04 | silviof | ... or exists somewhere newer toolchains |
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| 06:50.24 | silviof | uu - and what are the main developing repositories? maemo.gito... or gito../community-ssu? |
| 06:52.10 | silviof | ... and exists a script where I can download all repositories (or maybe a repositorie with all reps as submodules)? |
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| 09:37.48 | Maxdamantus | Hmm .. does the device normally turn off while it's at the uboot shell after a few seconds? |
| 09:37.57 | Maxdamantus | is it because of one of the watchdogs? |
| 09:38.06 | kerio | possibly |
| 09:38.24 | Maxdamantus | it's about 20s in |
| 09:41.31 | Maxdamantus | Yeah, disabling all three of the "auto reboot" things fixed it. |
| 09:41.50 | Maxdamantus | disabling only the "OMAP watchdog" didn't. |
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| 10:59.00 | kerio | why do you need to "fix" that |
| 11:04.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, afaik uBoot should tickle the watchdogs |
| 11:04.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | not sure about it |
| 11:08.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | though, you could actually start to question the usefulness of those watchdogs anyway |
| 11:09.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | in the end what else do they do than rebooting the device - sth I should be able to do myself via long press of power button any time |
| 11:09.43 | Ashley` | <DocScrutinizer05> though, you could actually start to question the usefulness of those watchdogs anyway |
| 11:09.44 | Ashley` | ++ |
| 11:10.30 | Ashley` | For me, they never rebooted my device when they should. |
| 11:10.55 | Ashley` | Only when for example, installing packages with pacman, etc. |
| 11:10.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, when your device locks up for obscure reasons while in your pocket, you may miss events like inbound calls and timer alarms |
| 11:12.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | Ashley`: when *should* they reboot? |
| 11:12.26 | Ashley` | <DocScrutinizer05> sure, when your device locks up for obscure reasons while in your pocket, you may miss events like inbound calls and timer alarms |
| 11:12.28 | Ashley` | for example :P |
| 11:12.44 | Ashley` | There should be a way to disable it and enable easily |
| 11:12.49 | Ashley` | without R&D etc |
| 11:12.59 | Ashley` | But I don't know if that's possible |
| 11:13.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | Ashley`: did that ever happen to you? |
| 11:13.14 | Ashley` | nope |
| 11:13.23 | Ashley` | so for me they're unuseful :P |
| 11:13.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | so, how can you say the WDs never rebooted when they should? |
| 11:14.09 | Ashley` | I meant, they rebooted my device, but only when I didn't want to |
| 11:14.15 | Ashley` | (muh english :s) |
| 11:14.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder if you can set flags via softupd and maemo generic flasher |
| 11:15.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe even pretty straight forward via libcal |
| 11:15.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | resp calvaria |
| 11:16.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | then otoh I guess there IS a way to stop a WD. A generic linux way |
| 11:17.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | and definitely there's a way to *start* WDs |
| 11:17.10 | Ashley` | hm? (I was asking for disabling them some time ago, and people told me that it's possible only in R&D) |
| 11:18.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, stoppig the WD is one thing. Stopping the kernel and whatelse to tickle (and thus restart) WDs is another thing |
| 11:24.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | in /dev there's twl4030_wdt and watchdog |
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| 11:28.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | no idea where's the bb5-based watchdog (assuming there must be one) |
| 11:31.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | umm, maybe there isn't? |
| 11:31.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | or is lifeguard the BB5 modem? |
| 11:32.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think lifeguard is dsme |
| 11:33.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I'm actually not sure if the modem ever uses the reset line it has into CPU |
| 11:38.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | The watchdog is automatically started once you open ‘/dev/watchdog’. To stop the watchdog, you will need to: |
| 11:38.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | Write character ‘V’ into ‘/dev/watchdog’ to prevent stopping the watchdog accidentally |
| 11:38.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | Close the ‘/dev/watchdog’ file |
| 11:39.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | An exception on stopping the watchdog by closing the file is when ‘CONFIG_WATCHDOG_NOWAYOUT’ is enabled in your kernel configuration. When this option is enabled, the watchdog cannot be stopped at all. Hence, you will need to feed / kick it all the time or it will reset the system |
| 11:40.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | To kick or to feed the watchdog you can do it in two ways: |
| 11:40.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | Write any character into ‘/dev/watchdog’. You can write any character into /dev/watchdog, but, my suggestion, don’t write ‘V’ character (See the ‘Starting-Stopping Watchdog’ point above) |
| 11:40.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | Use IOCTL to insert ‘WDIOC_KEEPALIVE’ value. |
| 11:41.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://embeddedfreak.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/howto-use-linux-watchdog/ |
| 11:44.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, I can't spot any process holding a file handle to 7dev/watchdog or /dev/twl4030_wdt |
| 11:45.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | lsof doesn't show any open handles to those |
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| 17:01.58 | sixwheeledbeast | Ah, I found what's missing in CSSU-S to get the headset button working on OMP. |
| 17:02.08 | sixwheeledbeast | policy-settings-rx51 0.4.10.8+0m5 |
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| 18:47.46 | pari42 | does any one know where i can get system images for the n810? |
| 18:47.55 | pari42 | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N810.php |
| 18:48.06 | pari42 | is saying that the url is not found |
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| 20:25.15 | silviof | freemangordon: is the kernel development going on a separate mailinglist? or alkml? |
| 20:25.19 | silviof | Hi, the three toolchains "cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7", "cs2007q3-glibc2.5-i486" and the thumb-tc are state of the art for the n900? |
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| 23:05.45 | mlwane | Hello |
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| 23:07.58 | mlwane | Does anyone remember whether the N810 has a setting to flash the LED when charging? |
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| 23:08.49 | mlwane | I cannot seem to find this option under Control Panel > Display > LEDs |
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| 23:43.02 | hxka | pari42: http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/ |
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