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| 08:53.04 | SAiF | overheating like sh*t... |
| 08:53.19 | SAiF | 49C |
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| 09:06.29 | SAiF | just because I keep instant messeger on |
| 09:06.34 | SAiF | via wifi.. |
| 09:09.31 | ShadowJK | something's not right |
| 09:11.11 | SAiF | fsck.vfat -a /dev/mmcblk1 bogging cpu. |
| 09:11.46 | SAiF | which one is mmcblk1? |
| 09:12.13 | ShadowJK | MyDocs |
| 09:12.23 | SAiF | oops.. |
| 09:12.30 | ShadowJK | uh |
| 09:12.35 | ShadowJK | or uSD |
| 09:12.49 | SAiF | no.. I just removed usd |
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| 09:16.02 | SAiF | well killed it. :) |
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| 09:18.42 | kwtm | agrees |
| 09:19.02 | kwtm | isn't sure what he just agreed to. |
| 09:19.09 | kwtm | infobot: seen kwtm |
| 09:19.11 | infobot | kwtm is currently on #maemo (40s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: 'infobot: seen kwtm'. |
| 09:19.24 | kwtm | Oh, good, I've not been muted. |
| 09:21.27 | SAiF | load average fell from 2.30 to just 0.6 |
| 09:22.00 | SAiF | and temp droping 43c .. |
| 09:22.07 | SAiF | hmm... |
| 09:26.14 | sixwheeledbeast | fsck.vfat? mmcblk1 could be MyDocs or uSD unless you have KP |
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| 10:14.43 | hxka | mmcblk1 is uSD by default |
| 10:15.19 | hxka | If he removed it while fsch was running, he have successfully shoot himself in the foot |
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| 10:19.55 | Ashley` | infobot, seen Ashley` |
| 10:19.55 | infobot | ashley` is currently on #maemo (1d 17h 23m 19s) #maemo-ssu (1d 17h 23m 19s). Has said a total of 159 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: 'infobot, seen Ashley` '. |
| 10:20.05 | Ashley` | yay |
| 10:26.16 | sixwheeledbeast | hxka: mmcblk1 is only guaranteed to be uSD in KP due to a patch. |
| 10:26.45 | hxka | what |
| 10:28.11 | sixwheeledbeast | the stock kernel will give mmcblk0 to whatever device asks first. |
| 10:28.46 | hxka | I really doubt that |
| 10:28.58 | sixwheeledbeast | its not fixed that mmcblk0 = xyz |
| 10:29.30 | sixwheeledbeast | have a look at upstart sources then |
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| 10:30.14 | sixwheeledbeast | or ask Pali |
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| 10:31.33 | hxka | upstart sources or upstart scripts? |
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| 10:33.31 | sixwheeledbeast | well actually system-services package |
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| 10:36.52 | sixwheeledbeast | rcS-late >> # Find internal eMMC device, fallback to mmcblk0 \ for emmc in mmcblk1 mmcblk0; do |
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| 10:41.16 | hxka | That seems to be legacy from before it was implemented in udev rules |
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| 10:43.27 | hxka | See /etc/udev/rules.d/92-n770.rules and /lib/udev/mmc_id |
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| 10:50.56 | sixwheeledbeast | yes, they don't have fixed values either |
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| 10:54.01 | hxka | "what" |
| 10:56.18 | sixwheeledbeast | hxka: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2013-09-14.log.html#t2013-09-14T14:11:02 |
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| 11:01.38 | hxka | > real name is later configured by udev |
| 11:01.54 | hxka | That's exactly what I'm talking about |
| 11:02.14 | sixwheeledbeast | eh. |
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| 11:07.51 | sixwheeledbeast | "mmcblk1 is uSD by default" which as I said it isn't guaranteed on stock kernel |
| 11:08.30 | hxka | it IS guaranteed |
| 11:08.40 | hxka | See udev rules |
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| 11:09.13 | hxka | It will only assign mmcblk1 to external SD card |
| 11:09.33 | hxka | And it will only assign mmcblk0 to internal eMMC card |
| 11:10.08 | sixwheeledbeast | this is not what I have been told. |
| 11:10.50 | hxka | You're confusing internal kernel numbers with devices udev creates in /dev/ |
| 11:11.40 | sixwheeledbeast | mmm |
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| 11:20.34 | SAiF | well read the logs.. :) |
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| 18:12.28 | anYc | ~reflash |
| 18:12.28 | infobot | i heard reflash is zImage and/or initrd.bin on CF and press C+D+Reset (collie) OR updater.sh, zimage.bin and/or initrd.bin on CF/SD and press OK while rebooting, then option 4, then CD or SF, then HAI (yes), then wait and cross fingers (all other models) |
| 18:13.08 | anYc | o.O |
| 18:16.40 | freemangordon | ~flashing |
| 18:16.40 | infobot | rumour has it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 18:27.33 | anYc | thx |
| 18:30.08 | hxka | What devices ~reflash is about, though? |
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| 20:11.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, pali is incorrect. mmc order isn't random. It's clearly defined that kernel first checks uSD interface which happens to be SoC's mmc-if1 and then checks mmc-if2 which is connected to eMMC in N900. the first MMC found is called mmc0, if a second is found it gets named mmc1. Later on initscripts and/or udev renames mmc1 and mmc0 in case a uSD is inserted |
| 20:14.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | some places never get renamed, see /proc/partitions |
| 20:15.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/8f11215a7c |
| 20:15.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | 15663104 mmcblk0; 31264768 mmcblk1 |
| 20:16.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | obviously mmcblk0 size doesn't mazch size of eMMC |
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| 20:16.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | mmcblk1 does, though |
| 20:17.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | we even once managed to swap complete eMMC to uSD since the user's eMMC been broken. We simply spotted and disabled the renaming |
| 20:18.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc the comple patch been a one-char-edit - my favorite type of hack |
| 20:18.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 20:22.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | now if you wonder why - there's actually a rationale behind that: it allows to boot from uSD (in principle) |
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| 20:39.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw same applies to your desktop PC, no matter if you use linux or windoze as your OS |
| 20:39.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why recently device-references by label became popular |
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| 20:40.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | dev/hda always been the master device on first ATA bus, iirc |
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| 20:41.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | same for sata |
| 20:42.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, of course only when there been a master device on first ATA bus, otherwise next device found becomes HDA - right? |
| 20:43.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | soundcards are numberd by random (actually by timing during probing) |
| 20:44.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why you can assign a soundcard number to a certain type of card, in ALSA |
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| 20:47.55 | nostros | hi! |
| 20:48.58 | nostros | is this channel designed for glorification and worship of the all-mght nokia N900? |
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| 21:14.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, he expected more entertainment it seems |
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| 21:37.33 | Sicelo | glorification and worship of the all-mght nokia N900? lol |
| 21:37.36 | Sicelo | sounds like pron |
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| 23:04.33 | Ashley` | guys who wrote ytalk are awesome |
| 23:04.47 | Ashley` | i'm talking using it for an hour now xD |
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