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| 01:56.12 | Sc0rpius | then I guess they should lower the QA votes from 6 to 3 or something. |
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| 02:49.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, nope |
| 02:50.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | the problem is rather that even 6 votes are often not based on proper QA but rather "WFM" or mere sympathy |
| 02:53.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | I've seen users voting up packages that were not even installed every on their devices |
| 02:53.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | just because they wanted that app |
| 02:53.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/every/ever/ |
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| 02:55.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly how a package that doesn't uninstall or eats battery like candy ever makes it into extras is beyond me |
| 02:56.24 | SAiF | :) |
| 02:56.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | shouldn't get a single thumb-up vote in extras-testing |
| 02:59.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | I just say |
| 02:59.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~crappatch |
| 02:59.31 | infobot | somebody said speedpatch was http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1012405#post1012405 >>first i don't realy understand what does this patch do (that is why it is called miracle patch)<< [/quote original-author-of-speedpatch] |
| 03:00.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc those made it to extras |
| 03:01.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | tsting and QA never really worked as intended, but everything else works even worse |
| 03:03.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | for HARM Nokia replaced that by absolutism via store and Nokia based commercial QA, and paegis |
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| 03:17.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~batterypatch |
| 03:17.18 | infobot | speedpatch is, like, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1012405#post1012405 >>first i don't realy understand what does this patch do (that is why it is called miracle patch)<< [/quote original-author-of-speedpatch] |
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| 09:04.52 | zGrr | moin :) |
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| 10:08.43 | Maxdamantus | --2014-01-22 23:07:40-- http://scratchbox.org/download/files/sbox-releases/branches/hathor/r1/deb/i386/scratchbox-core-1.0.26-i386.tar.gz |
| 10:08.48 | Maxdamantus | Everything seems to be outdated :( |
| 10:09.04 | Maxdamantus | Those last two hyphens are apparently meant to be underscores. |
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| 10:11.44 | Maxdamantus | Wait, the tarballs have hyphens, the debs have underscores .. it chose the wrong directory. |
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| 12:16.43 | Ori_553 | anyone else suddenly experiencing "you do not have status updates" in the facebook widget in maemo 5 ? |
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| 14:30.52 | SAiF | how do you control a service? start stop restart.. etc.. what commands to use. where can I get good docs abt maemo and busybox? |
| 14:31.47 | Ashley` | I am not sure, but, take a look at /etc/init.d/ |
| 14:32.06 | Ashley` | (# /etc/init.d/initscript_name command) |
| 14:32.55 | Ashley` | (for example, /etc/init.d/ssh restart) |
| 14:37.26 | SAiF | thats good, but another thing.. where else could a daemon go, I couldnt find the intended one in init.d/ |
| 14:40.14 | merlin1991 | even.d |
| 14:40.18 | merlin1991 | it's upstart |
| 14:40.28 | merlin1991 | so you could read some ubuntu docs about that :D |
| 14:40.37 | ShadowJK | event.d |
| 14:44.56 | SAiF | thanks again.. and anywhere else..? |
| 14:44.59 | SAiF | :) |
| 14:45.19 | SAiF | I should probably be using ubuntu docs.. :) |
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| 15:50.31 | sixwheeledbeast | upstart cookbook |
| 15:50.58 | SAiF | huh? |
| 15:52.44 | sixwheeledbeast | as for *patch. many of the votes where from noobs that didn't use the QA system properly. Thankfully that is partly resolved now, after bringing this to CC attn. |
| 15:53.44 | sixwheeledbeast | I can only see the above being stopped by blocking QA until x Karma is reached on garage profile. |
| 15:54.23 | sixwheeledbeast | SAiF: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ |
| 15:56.11 | SAiF | Thanks a lot sixwheeledbeast |
| 15:56.24 | sixwheeledbeast | np |
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| 16:31.26 | sixwheeledbeast | somehow amazingly yappari has 7 votes in less than 12 hours, three of the votes are <10 karma. This is not facebook or youtube thumbs up you are suppose to test the application. Not saying there is anything wrong with yappari I have never used it TBH. |
| 16:35.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | see what I mean? |
| 16:36.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | not only "test" but actually VERIFY, by running a set of pretty clearly defined tests against it |
| 16:36.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I bet none of those testers even checked if it's properly optified |
| 16:37.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | nor if it uninstalls cleanly, or if it hogs CPU or has other similar problems |
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| 16:39.40 | sixwheeledbeast | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:40.08 | sixwheeledbeast | it only happens on a very small amount of pkgs |
| 16:41.44 | sixwheeledbeast | It only a small update I believe, but this is no excuse. |
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| 16:57.24 | hbib1 | even if it is/may be against the rules and may result in lower package quality i think there is nothing wrong with having some important packages for daily usage in the repos more basing on users opinion/need than on their actual technical quality :) |
| 16:59.00 | hbib1 | and by the non-technical user-vote it is at least ensured that these programs work regarding their promised features ... |
| 17:06.45 | SAiF | thats true.. yappari works fine for me.. and its the only choice i have got I think. |
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| 17:12.39 | sixwheeledbeast | lowering package quality is a big no IMO. If it's a small important update, maintainer could ask CC to push an update in some cases. |
| 17:13.55 | sixwheeledbeast | You don't have to be "technical" to QA and package test. There is a guide on what to do. More experienced people will do better testing but to vote you MUST have done the QA checklist. |
| 17:14.26 | sixwheeledbeast | WFM isn't package testing either |
| 17:16.17 | sixwheeledbeast | http://wiki.maemo.org/Help_testing_software http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing/QA_checklist |
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| 17:18.18 | sixwheeledbeast | also how do you rate important? yappari isn't important for me, but that's IMO. important are system updates provided by CSSU. |
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| 19:24.24 | hbib1 | freemangordon: you are totaly right, but i think the problem is that meamo hasn't the power to go only for (high) quality but has to accept instead any works ensuring the it's usability for daily "smartphone-work" |
| 19:25.34 | freemangordon | hbib1: sorry, could you rephrase, I am not sure I parse ^^^ on 100% |
| 19:25.37 | hbib1 | and yes, for me whatsapp/yappari is an imprtant program, because sadly many people use ist and without it I couldn't keep using my n900 (and even order a neo900) as daily, main and only phone |
| 19:26.12 | hbib1 | freemangordon: i think the problem is that maemo hasn't enough developpers :) |
| 19:26.23 | freemangordon | oh, tell me about it :) |
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| 19:28.34 | hbib1 | or, to be more precisive, not in the topic of "modern" smartphone software regarding all that stuff like whatsapp/instagramm/kik/twitter/whatever, which is sadly need to hold contact with non "technical" people |
| 19:32.23 | hbib1 | *precise |
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| 19:59.08 | FIQ | is there a good reason for why maemo.org has 4 different account dbs? |
| 19:59.19 | FIQ | there's garage, bugzilla, wiki, tmo |
| 19:59.40 | FIQ | wouldn't it be easier to just... have 1 |
| 20:04.48 | trx | that would be nice |
| 20:06.00 | bef0rd | I know why tmo is differnt, tmo used to be a different site, not owned by maemo.org |
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| 21:01.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | hbib1: maemo QA will not turn into a sympathy contest. The purpose of QA and etras-testing is to ensure no defective or rogue application enters maemo-extras repo. When you want an app in mameo-extras then you will have to go the way of developing, testing, QA, like every other packet had to do so far |
| 21:02.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you can't find your preferred app in maemo-extras, well then it isn't in extras. You need to find it elsewhere (e.g. in extras-devel) |
| 21:02.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | we will not poison maemo-extras repo by moving apps from extras-devel to extras without proper QA |
| 21:05.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | FIQ: actually maemo.org only has 2 account db: talk.maemo.org and garage.maemo.org. everything else is based on that afaik. I.E. all your "accounts" except tmo should be handled by garage |
| 21:07.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | if that's not correct, then nemein and community volunteers failed to implement/finalize the SSO that been planned in 2012 |
| 21:10.28 | FIQ | well I had to create a new account for bugzilla |
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| 21:11.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, that is probably since bugzilla using your email-add as login-name |
| 21:11.15 | FIQ | speaking of this |
| 21:11.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | for obvious reasons |
| 21:11.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, you're free and welcome to improve all that infra |
| 21:11.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | techstaff has no manpower for that |
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| 22:44.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | loosely related (to maemo): http://www.jakoblell.com/blog/2013/12/22/practical-malleability-attack-against-cbc-encrypted-luks-partitions/ |
| 22:50.37 | sixwheeledbeast | I believe FIQ is correct. garage, bugzilla, wiki, tmo are separate accounts because they all run on different things. |
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| 23:07.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, maybe x-fade stopped the SSO project/effort |
| 23:08.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway it would be a major PITA to add it while running. How to handle all the existing accounts? |
| 23:09.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | same username, differnet passwords? UGH! |
| 23:09.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | different* even |
| 23:16.07 | sixwheeledbeast | I don't disagree |
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| 23:37.34 | r00t|eeepc | install libc update via apt-get => time for re-flashing... |
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| 23:56.41 | Maxdamantus | Hmm .. so the N900 apparently has a magnet mechanism to detect whether the back cover is on, to determine availability of the SD card. |
| 23:57.09 | Maxdamantus | does that mean if you have the SD card mounted, the block device will disappear when you open the cover? |
| 23:57.22 | Maxdamantus | (resulting in IO errors or something) |
| 23:58.49 | Maxdamantus | or is it software-controlled, so the OS normally reacts to the signal by unmounting the filesystem? |