| 00:00.48 | b1101 | holding this phone again only reminds me about how badly nokia fucked it up |
| 00:01.00 | b1101 | not the phone itself, but in their direction |
| 00:01.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 00:01.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | they had an awesome community (this one) and didn't know what to do with it |
| 00:02.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | epic fail |
| 00:03.14 | b1101 | should I remove any of the default repositories at this point ? |
| 00:03.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | not yet. They will start to fail soon enough |
| 00:04.26 | ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: sup |
| 00:04.32 | ZogG_laptop | merlin1991: \o |
| 00:05.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, nokia standard repos have zilch that's not in: |
| 00:05.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~pr131 |
| 00:05.08 | infobot | hmm... combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin (or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/ ) |
| 00:05.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | so you better get your provate local copy of fiasco image |
| 00:05.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | private, as well |
| 00:06.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | maeno.org is kinda safe, all of it |
| 00:06.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | *.maemo.org |
| 00:06.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | nokia.com is at everybody's guess |
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| 00:07.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry for HARM, their devices will probably cease to work as soon as Nokia tears down those servers/repos/appshop/whatever |
| 00:08.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | we knew that since beginning, nobody been interested (or they refused to get a N9) |
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| 00:10.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | nota bene, even your humble council can't help you out when you miss to save your data right now and eventually last source of FIASCO goes offline |
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| 00:17.47 | merlin1991 | ZogG_laptop: ? |
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| 01:16.54 | FIQ | how do I get on hold of flashing images? |
| 01:18.01 | FIQ | nvm |
| 01:18.05 | FIQ | foudn in backlog |
| 01:22.40 | FIQ | hm |
| 01:22.56 | FIQ | I have flasher-3.5 and image of PR1.3.1 here |
| 01:23.07 | FIQ | if I intend to use maemo SDK at some point, do I need more stuff that will go offline? |
| 01:33.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | you should try to get the VM inage I guess |
| 01:34.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I dunno, maybe even update it, since some stuff might be in nokia repos only |
| 01:34.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ask the developers about that, I'm not really one of that crew |
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| 09:41.00 | sixwheeledbeast | ~sdk |
| 09:41.00 | infobot | it has been said that sdk is http://privatepaste.com/e4a5b13fad or "wget http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/explicit/maemo-dev-env-downloads/downloads/Readme_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.txt" |
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| 09:42.33 | sixwheeledbeast | well, ain't going to wget that then. |
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| 12:45.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: that's the funny part, the above still works. But Nokia forbids we make it available, so everybody needs to write a mail with their IMEI for proof and then can get a copy on DVD? |
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| 12:54.48 | sixwheeledbeast | This is what Nokia have said? |
| 12:56.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, that's what I wonder how to proceed |
| 12:57.00 | sixwheeledbeast | Well if 40K users ask for it, they would be stupid to provide 40K DVD's |
| 12:57.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | they? we!!! |
| 12:57.33 | sixwheeledbeast | er? |
| 12:57.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | though, good idea actually: pester them till they get nightmares |
| 12:58.48 | sixwheeledbeast | Yes. Exactly, but it has to be a solid community effort. |
| 12:59.39 | sixwheeledbeast | I think we have a community capable :) |
| 13:00.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | then it's probably time to start a thread pointing to tablets-dev.nokia.com? |
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| 13:02.24 | sixwheeledbeast | When it was mentioned a while ago I didn't know if there was a plan, or want to mess up any HiFo negotiations |
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| 13:23.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | I have no idea about HiFo negotiations and how they would get messed up by massive requests to Nokia about tablets-dev |
| 13:24.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | I however wonder what goods Nokia is actually negotiating about. The maemo.org domain plus midgard? |
| 13:24.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | I can't think of more stuff that was a possible subject to negotiations |
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| 13:25.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | obviously the *relevant* vital stuff explicitly isn't subject to any negotiations |
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| 13:43.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I heard it's also "the website2 that gets negotiated about, but what the heck does that mean? the info in there is in the public domain anyway. and stuff like http://maemo.org/development/sdks/ is terribly obsolete and points to dead ends for all I can tell |
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| 13:44.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | or has anybody finally managed to install SDK from http://developer.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/c05693a1-265c-4c7f-a389-fc227db4c465/Maemo_5_SDK.html ? |
| 13:44.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | I honestly doubt |
| 13:45.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | same with http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/2nd_edition/ |
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| 13:49.29 | android_808 | Is it usual for https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant to not show submitted package under fremantle build queue? |
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| 13:58.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably not usual |
| 14:00.05 | android_808 | Good start. I'll try it again later. |
| 14:01.28 | merlin1991 | I wonder WHY I have no css on the extras assistant |
| 14:02.27 | android_808 | firefox? |
| 14:03.16 | android_808 | For me it decided to automatically block elements, little shield symbol by address bar |
| 14:03.41 | android_808 | Found that out this morning before I started |
| 14:05.15 | sixwheeledbeast | merlin1991: IIRC it's FF reaction to expired cert. |
| 14:06.24 | sixwheeledbeast | android_808: did you use the extras-assistant to upload? |
| 14:07.30 | android_808 | sixwheeledbeast:yeah. Just tried it again and clicking move to queue makes it appear on the right side. Any refreshing/page change seems to remove it. |
| 14:07.32 | kolp | Hi DocScrutinizer05, I'm playing arounf with your charge21_500mA-USBlimit__UNTESTED.sh. It works well, and I'm wondering if there is a reason why it is limited to 500mA? |
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| 14:09.11 | freemangordon | merlin1991: I have the same problem, iirc you (and me) should enable mixed content or something |
| 14:10.04 | sixwheeledbeast | android_808: seems issue with assistant then, tried scp? |
| 14:10.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | kolp: the limit to 500mA is the special feature of this script over the charge21.sh of ShadowJK |
| 14:11.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL! https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant --> "SEITE NICHT GEFUNDEN" |
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| 14:12.45 | android_808 | sixwheeledbeast: I've got a mussorgsky fix lined up but lacking automatic optification at the moment. I could try pushing that to see if it is package specific |
| 14:13.01 | android_808 | DocScrutinizer05: missing / at end |
| 14:13.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2014/01/18/plasma-desktopts3389.png |
| 14:13.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | android_808: you ran out of "/" ? |
| 14:14.27 | android_808 | DocScrutinizer05: no, if you add / to end of https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant it works |
| 14:14.32 | kolp | DocScrutinizer05: right, thanks |
| 14:14.36 | sixwheeledbeast | :nod: |
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| 14:14.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-01-18 14:49:29] <android_808> Is it usual for https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant to not show submitted package under fremantle build queue? |
| 14:15.15 | android_808 | oops |
| 14:15.20 | sixwheeledbeast | android_808: if I am not mistaken fmg can reproduce? |
| 14:16.24 | android_808 | sixwheeledbeast: reproduce? |
| 14:17.20 | sixwheeledbeast | oh maybe he meant css issue |
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| 14:19.15 | sixwheeledbeast | what package has the issue? cooktimer was updated not long ago so I guess something works. Probably scp. |
| 14:25.23 | android_808 | rtmpdump-2.4+20121230. Its almost idenitical to my version on TMO, but I've added maemo-optify to debian/rules instead of running maemo-optify-deb after. |
| 14:32.11 | sixwheeledbeast | android_808: there's nothing wrong with build queue then https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2014-January/154826.html |
| 14:34.00 | sixwheeledbeast | plus mussorgsky has just been built |
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| 14:35.39 | android_808 | I literally wondered about that key so I added mussorgsky without it just before you posted that. Will need to sort that out. Thx for help. Now time for some lunch |
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| 14:42.06 | sixwheeledbeast | android_808: np, oh this is worth a read if your working on mussorgsky http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=60374 |
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| 18:16.20 | ZogG_laptop | anyone can tell me where do i get n810 FW these days? |
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| 18:43.55 | sixwheeledbeast | ZogG_laptop: probably the mystical maemo north-westerly wind ;) |
| 18:47.27 | ZogG_laptop | :( |
| 18:47.38 | ZogG_laptop | i got n810 as present few days ago |
| 18:47.41 | ZogG_laptop | want to hard reset it |
| 18:48.08 | ZogG_laptop | tablet dev of nokia dead already :( |
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| 18:52.44 | sixwheeledbeast | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemoi#Minor_winds |
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| 19:18.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: didn't notice it been so loud |
| 19:19.14 | sixwheeledbeast | the nw wind I presume? |
| 19:24.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | rather the tornado it caused |
| 19:24.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-x |
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| 19:32.35 | sixwheeledbeast | mmm |
| 19:33.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, everybody gets his stuff while it's still "best before:" |
| 19:35.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | as always: the future is ... uncertain |
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| 19:37.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2014-01-18.log.html#t2014-01-18T01:42:46 |
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