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| 06:18.49 | jpinx | in my n900, when I change the simcard, it does not update the sms messages received. How can I fix that ? |
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| 12:07.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | jpinx: that's a problem of your carrier. Not much your phone can do about it |
| 12:09.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | sender of SMs even can define an expiration date. AFAIK it can be as short as 6h, after which time an SMS gets discarded when not already sent to destination |
| 12:10.31 | jpinx | DocScrutinizer05: sorry -- not sure what you mean -- the SMS is stored on the simcard in my old samsung phone, but when I put that simcard into the n900 the message is not retrievable |
| 12:11.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, SMS on SIM, that's not supported anymore nowadays |
| 12:11.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | N900 has a way to import SMS from SIM |
| 12:11.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | if there actually are any |
| 12:12.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | SMS are regularly stored on phone storage nowadays, not on SIM storage |
| 12:12.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | most SIM can't store more than maybe 10 SMS |
| 12:13.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | 15 years ago the phone signalled "SMS storage full" - that's not happening anymore |
| 12:14.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | except for totally cheap feature phones |
| 12:14.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | modern SIM may have storage for more SMS, but most phones don't use it |
| 12:14.58 | jpinx | ok -- how to get the sms from the sim into the n900 ? :) |
| 12:15.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess there must be a menu entry in conversations app |
| 12:15.35 | jpinx | nothing in the menu |
| 12:15.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe aunt google may help |
| 12:15.58 | jpinx | been looking in all the obvious places and googling for days |
| 12:16.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm |
| 12:16.11 | jpinx | one comment told me that the n900 has no such facility |
| 12:16.19 | jpinx | but that was a few years old |
| 12:16.32 | jpinx | so I thought someone might have "fixed" it |
| 12:17.26 | jpinx | but I guess if you don't know - it doesn't exist :( |
| 12:18.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=385779#385779 |
| 12:19.37 | jpinx | DocScrutinizer05: yep - saw that one -- it's the one that says there's no way |
| 12:20.06 | jpinx | dated 2011 -- "Well, that's the problem. On the N900 there is currently no way to access SIM card's SMS storage. It simply isn't in any way implemented in the system... SIM card's Contacts can be accessed, but not messages. " |
| 12:21.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, when BB5 modem ISI interface has no way to read data (SMS) from SIM, then your SOL |
| 12:21.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're |
| 12:21.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | I doubt anybody could "fix" that |
| 12:22.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | you'll have to use a SIMcardreader |
| 12:22.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | those have direct access to the SIM and thus for sure can read out the SMS from card |
| 12:22.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | importing the SMS to N900 is another story |
| 12:23.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | the BB5 Rapuyama modem is pretty much crippled in a number of aspects |
| 12:24.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can talk to it via pnatd and "ATxxxx" 'Hayes' commands, but it doesn't understand most of them |
| 12:25.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | aah yes, I see, there's only "import *contacts* from SIM" |
| 12:26.29 | jpinx | ok -- thanks for looking over the issue :) |
| 12:26.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | they didn't bother about SMS |
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| 12:26.44 | jpinx | I'll need to find another solution |
| 12:27.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | and community can't "fix" that, since modem most likely doesn't support |
| 12:27.19 | jpinx | yes - if it's hardware I'm scunnered |
| 12:28.01 | jpinx | I'll try some other phones and maybe copy the sms into a file that can be simply copied |
| 12:28.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | there are cheap-like-dirt SMS card readers to plug to PC's USB |
| 12:28.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | SIM card readers* |
| 12:28.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, sure. Many other phones can access SIM via AT interface |
| 12:29.10 | jpinx | though I admit to being dismayed that older mthods are made redundant so easily |
| 12:29.19 | joga | how "stable" is cssu testing? |
| 12:29.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | see gnokii, or kandy (linux apps) |
| 12:29.26 | joga | ie. is it recommended for normal use |
| 12:29.33 | jpinx | hope the "new" n900 will have that fixed :) |
| 12:30.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | Neo900 modem has a complete comprehensive AT command set support |
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| 12:30.58 | jpinx | good good :) |
| 12:31.34 | jpinx | I have 2 N900's to "trade in" ;) |
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| 12:34.12 | sixwheeledbeast | joga: please clarify "normal use" |
| 12:34.30 | sixwheeledbeast | there are stable and testing version for a reason. |
| 12:35.13 | joga | yeah, in this case it wouldn't be very critical as it's a spare phone, I'm just thinking if you people use it daily |
| 12:35.27 | joga | but I already clicked on stable so I'll go with it for now :) |
| 12:36.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | the problem is we don't have a cssu-experimental, or cssu-revolution |
| 12:37.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | so many updates go to cssu-t even when they don't scratch any itch |
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| 12:39.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | this may result in stuff like filesystem corruption thanks to some new patch tries to handle uSD cards with multiple partitions and thus recovery from unclean shutdown got "fixed to death" (arbitrary made-up example) |
| 12:39.56 | joga | ok |
| 12:40.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | for the record, I stopped updating cssu-t on my daily phone, some 3 or 4 releases back |
| 12:41.28 | joga | the one I've used for the past years has been pretty static since I did a few hundred modifications and there was nothing else to do heh |
| 12:42.02 | joga | with this other phone I guess I'll try to keep things a bit simpler for now, the usual tweaks and progs etc |
| 12:43.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | go for cssu-s |
| 12:43.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | it might still be stable, like it says |
| 12:43.49 | joga | ye, going |
| 12:48.41 | jaska | i have some ancient cssu manually installed from various debs.. to avoid hitting my custom libvte and xterm :| |
| 12:48.53 | jaska | i trimmed all useless junk ui parts from xterm etc |
| 12:48.59 | jaska | and minimized padding |
| 12:52.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | a pity. I just thought "Freon" was a nice name for the fremantle-for Neon (Neo900 board) distro. But it's actually [TM] and not a nice substance either |
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| 13:46.15 | b1101 | my n900 was delivered yesterday. Time to go pick it up :D |
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| 15:19.19 | SAiF | can somebody help me with a messed up due to 'dd command' folder ? |
| 15:23.01 | SAiF | I could see all the contents while navigating through GUI, but not through CLI, and also that folder shows it uses 113GB. |
| 15:23.34 | SAiF | I cannot play videos or copy files. But its there.. Anybody have any idea? |
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| 15:44.59 | SAiF | never mind.. got it. |
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| 16:18.02 | b1101 | ...damn it. Uncle put it in his car for when I see him tomorrow. |
| 16:19.15 | SAiF | waiting again.. aahh.. |
| 16:19.44 | b1101 | I'll keep my self busy coding until then. |
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| 16:54.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe, the tricks of relatives to make you visit them |
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| 16:58.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-01-17 17:18:02] <b1101> ...damn it. Uncle put it in his car for when I see him tomorrow. |
| 17:08.36 | b1101 | I'm going to drink with him tomorrow, followed by setting up my n900 when I get home |
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| 22:51.59 | b1101 | he dropped it off :) time to flash clean |
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| 23:25.38 | b1101 | buttons!!! I missed these buttons |
| 23:27.33 | Ashley` | DocScrutinizer05: oh, you're in the same timezone as I am ;) |
| 23:32.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | Ashley`: no, I'm not. I have my own TZ: JRTZV |
| 23:33.06 | Ashley` | huh? |
| 23:33.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | hail pichlo! http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1407199#post1407199 |
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| 23:33.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | Ashley`: lemme check.... maybe... UH.... 13:40 in my private timezone |
| 23:34.43 | Ashley` | <DocScrutinizer05> [2014-01-17 17:18:02] <b1101> ...damn it. Uncle put it in his car for when I see him tomorrow. |
| 23:34.49 | Ashley` | and in my logs: |
| 23:34.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | though, to describe the feeling and time I sense, not even the dyscordian calendar suffices. LOTS of shit happening |
| 23:35.05 | Ashley` | <b1101> [17:18:02] ...damn it. Uncle put it in his car for when I see him tomorrow. |
| 23:36.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | Woody bailing out, in a very depressing way and for even more sad reasons once you start to think about it |
| 23:37.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | and that's ruining my week, together with other shit happening |
| 23:37.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, hope he will be well soon |
| 23:39.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | woody, take care! |
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| 23:42.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | on a sidenote: I suggest everybody makes sure you got all the core data you need to continue using your N900 (like flasher, fiasco-images, SDK, eMMC, VM-image, ...) |
| 23:42.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | Nokia sold to M$ |
| 23:43.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | up to you to conclude |
| 23:43.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ |
| 23:44.01 | Ashley` | hm... |
| 23:44.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | friends share such vital data via P2P aka torrents |
| 23:48.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | I got my local copies of the most important data. Alas I may not share, thus the according dirs on maemo.cloud-7.de are not publicly accessible |
| 23:49.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I suggest everybody gets his own local copy right now! |
| 23:50.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | even if you never before flashed your device - eventually you might have to |
| 23:51.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | and while for flasher-3.5 there's a FOSS alternative thanks to pali, for the firmware images you're on your own |
| 23:51.15 | Ashley` | I have sdk, images, flasher |
| 23:51.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | then I think you're not nervous now. Good! |
| 23:51.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | please consider torrents or whatever |
| 23:52.06 | Ashley` | not now :P |
| 23:52.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | others might be less licky than you |
| 23:52.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | lucky even |
| 23:53.59 | Ashley` | But I don't know if I am able to seed... I think my ISP've blocked seeding torrents (downloading works fine) |
| 23:54.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | I just hope it's not yet a crime to *suggest* torrents |
| 23:55.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I'm confident this community will handle this situation, like always, in an awesome way |
| 23:56.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | just a sidenote: when I'd search for the files, I'd manage to find the original complete filename in wiki or chanlogs or whatever, so no need to ponder what fantasy names somebody might have assigned to the torrent she shares |
| 23:59.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think some users even might consider a class action against Nokia for not providing vital data anymore for a product that been in official sales just 18 months ago |
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