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| 16:24.12 | freemangordon | finally migrated his desktop to linux |
| 16:24.35 | Ashley` | yay |
| 16:24.43 | Ashley` | C: |
| 16:33.54 | sixwheeledbeast | well no looking back now. |
| 16:34.15 | sixwheeledbeast | hears smoke alarm and goes to investigate.... |
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| 16:39.52 | sixwheeledbeast | stupid thing. |
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| 16:42.05 | freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: I was postponing that for much too long |
| 16:42.26 | freemangordon | but when I got 3 reboots per hour OOB... |
| 16:43.05 | sixwheeledbeast | Have you used any new HW apart from the PSU? |
| 16:43.17 | freemangordon | yep |
| 16:43.35 | freemangordon | everything is new but the case and (most of) the disks |
| 16:43.40 | sixwheeledbeast | anything interesting? |
| 16:44.05 | freemangordon | it took me a while to setup nvidia binary driver to start 2 screens :D |
| 16:44.46 | freemangordon | otherwise pretty good setup IMO -4 i5 cores, 16G RAM, ~3.5 TB disk space |
| 16:46.08 | sixwheeledbeast | well that should do for a while. |
| 16:47.05 | freemangordon | oh, a really strange thing - |
| 16:48.10 | freemangordon | I setup VM to use my old XP installation as a phisical disk, (to ease my migration). What makes me nuts is mozilla and thundrbird - both hag in some 10-20 seconds |
| 16:48.18 | freemangordon | *physical |
| 16:48.54 | freemangordon | or rather - does not repaint the contents, I need to switch the focus to have the page rendered |
| 16:49.10 | freemangordon | this is really weird |
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| 16:53.38 | sixwheeledbeast | can't say I have come across that. I use a VM on Ubuntu for my Maemo SDK. I you talking about firefox/tbird in the VM? |
| 16:54.00 | sixwheeledbeast | s/I you/Are you/ |
| 16:54.00 | freemangordon | yes |
| 16:54.42 | freemangordon | but it is something broken in my old XP installation, as I did a clean XP install on another partition and FF doesn't have that problem there |
| 16:54.53 | freemangordon | but anyway I CBA to fix that |
| 16:55.39 | freemangordon | though everything else works, so it is deffinitely a bug in gecko |
| 16:56.36 | sixwheeledbeast | Well not worth spending effort to fix, if you migrate everything. |
| 16:58.36 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 16:59.44 | sixwheeledbeast | I use Iceweasel in the VM to lighten the load, do most of my browsing in Ubuntu with FF. |
| 17:01.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | DNS not reachable, or a 404 on some hidden "service" often can cause such annoying stalls in browsers |
| 17:02.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | e.g when you primary DNS server IP doesn't respond and eventually resolver/whatever has to fall back to 2nd/3rd DNS IP |
| 17:04.48 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: wireshark told me there is no activity |
| 17:05.05 | freemangordon | and once stalled only restart fixes it |
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| 17:52.12 | amospalla | I managed to install cssu9 over cssu-thumb8 |
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| 17:53.08 | sixwheeledbeast | eh? T9.1+thumb0 is available now AFAIK. |
| 17:53.41 | amospalla | right, and I saw it as upgrade, and I thought I was updating to thumb, but dunno how I got non-thumb installed. |
| 17:54.25 | amospalla | applications manager does not recognize thumb as an update, is it safe to manually installing it with apt-get? |
| 17:54.46 | amospalla | I've always read, important updates should always be done through applications manger. |
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| 18:02.03 | sixwheeledbeast | ALL package management should be done through HAM |
| 18:02.26 | sixwheeledbeast | check catalogues to make sure thumb is there |
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| 18:12.59 | amospalla | these are set |
| 18:13.36 | amospalla | maybe on next thumb version, I can go back to it :/ |
| 18:19.37 | amospalla | it appeared now :) |
| 18:25.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | basically CSSU-T and CSSU-thumb are cross-compatible, as long as you got the thumbified kernel |
| 18:26.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | nothing wrong in installing a non-thumb package version over an older thumbified version of same package. It's a simple normal update |
| 18:26.39 | amospalla | DocScrutinizer05: thank you for that info, is good to know. |
| 18:27.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | just your newer version, when not thumbified will be a tad larger and possibly slower, but then it's also newer and possibly some bugs fixed |
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| 18:28.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | when same version rolls out of cssu-thumb hangar's door, you will easily update to thumb version again |
| 18:29.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | per definition equivalent versions between cssu-thumb and cssu-testing are supposed to be 100% compatible |
| 18:29.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | except for disk space needed for installation |
| 18:29.49 | amospalla | nice, so I don't need to wait to thumb version of a package, if there is an update, and I would like to test it. |
| 18:30.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | nope, not really |
| 18:30.09 | amospalla | :) |
| 18:30.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I actually suggest you better install any cssu-test update particularly when it's a critical or security related update |
| 18:31.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's not like cssu-T update should or would roll back *all* of your cssu-thumb binaries to a non-thumb version. It's usually only 1 or maybe a very low 1digit number of packages that got upgraded in a new CSSU-T release |
| 18:32.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | and aiui only those will override any CSSU-Thumb packages of same name on your system - if any such packages actually exist |
| 18:33.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | in short, CSSU-T and CSSU-Thumb are not mutually exclusive but rather complementary |
| 18:35.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ideally cssu-thumb repo has a slightly higher priority than cssu-t repo, so packages with identical version-number should update from thumb |
| 18:36.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | depending on behaviour of apt and HAM I guess automatic update from cssu-t to *-thumb might fail when version-number in cssu-thumb isn't higher than the identical version in *-t |
| 18:37.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | in that case I guess reverting to apt-get and force-installing/reinstalling the metapackage from cssu-thumb will do |
| 18:37.52 | amospalla | mhh.. it seems to have installed correctly |
| 18:38.21 | amospalla | well, n900 rebooted, and told me it had upgrade the system, nothing related to errors. |
| 18:38.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | I honestly hope freemangordon is tagging all thumb binaries in a unique way |
| 18:38.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | so users have a way to tell them apart from their non-thumbified twins |
| 18:40.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: you do? |
| 18:40.24 | SAiF | I dont even look what gets installed. what evere comes up as an update, I just give it a go.. |
| 18:41.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | thinks of a small string addition to --help or --version output, or for binaries that don't have this, just include a ascii string const that doesn't get optimized out by compiler/linker |
| 18:43.32 | SAiF | and hope it wont cause any harm. |
| 18:43.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonders if just *maybe* every thumb binary could link against a lib that checks for presence of a unique property of /sys or /proc or whatever that signals that kernel is supporting thumb, and simply quits with throwing error when not |
| 18:44.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | this way you could make sure any problems from tumb running on a non-thumb system can get caught in very early stage, not at random occasion much later via segfault |
| 18:45.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | and you could easily tell apart thumb binaries from armel binaries |
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| 18:45.34 | sixwheeledbeast | thumb versions have there own +thumbX package name |
| 18:46.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | does the binary know about own package name? |
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| 18:46.59 | sixwheeledbeast | Not sure fmg will know. |
| 18:47.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? fmg doesn't know abiut own package name? ;-) |
| 18:48.52 | sixwheeledbeast | he's obviously busy tweaking his new buntu machine |
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| 19:35.45 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: no, thumb binaries don't know they are thumb |
| 19:38.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ++ #include fmglib |
| 19:38.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ++ assert(fmgSysIsThumb; "Sorry, your system doesn't support thumb binaries") |
| 19:41.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | #endif |
| 19:41.30 | freemangordon | well, IMO LD_PRELOAD is a better way |
| 19:41.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | errwut? |
| 19:41.51 | freemangordon | hooking to malloc() for example |
| 19:41.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | uhuh |
| 19:42.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | and how do you ldpreload for every damn thumb binary on your system? |
| 19:42.26 | freemangordon | SIGILL could happen before that assert() is called |
| 19:42.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | and NOT for the non-thumb binaries? |
| 19:42.36 | freemangordon | in /etc/profile |
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| 19:45.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm absolutely fine with SIGILL happening before assert reached. I'm not fine with it happening any random time later on |
| 19:46.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | the whole purpose of this assert is to make sure the binary dies whatever cruel death the very second it got started |
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| 22:04.02 | peetah | Does KP52 enable /dev/snd/seq ? it does'nt seem so, or at least I failed to found a sequencer device in my /dev tree |
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| 22:04.26 | peetah | s/found/find |
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| 22:59.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=52750 |
| 22:59.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | peetah: ^^^ |
| 23:00.37 | peetah | DocScrutinizer05: thanks |
| 23:01.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=265996#post265996 |
| 23:02.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | peetah: ^^^ |
| 23:02.59 | peetah | DocScrutinizer05: I already went through this, but it didnot change a thing... well I may be to tired for this tonight, I'll try tomorow again. thanks anyway |
| 23:03.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | you need to reboot after installing that .asoundrc seq.hw{} plugin definition, I guess |
| 23:05.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | you also might want to move that to /etc/asound.conf as sound is not only used by usser ~user/ |
| 23:06.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | file syntax of ~user/.asoundrc and /etc/asound.conf is identical |
| 23:06.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | just ~user/.asoundrc obviously only applies for processes run as "user" |
| 23:09.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | however I wonder what's that sequencer thing and why anybody would really want to use it |
| 23:09.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | feels like legacy from soundblaste SB16 times |
| 23:09.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | late 90s |
| 23:09.59 | peetah | DocScrutinizer05: after rebooting, no change with ~user/.asoundrc |
| 23:10.24 | peetah | DocScrutinizer05: just compliled mame and it requires /dev/snd/seq |
| 23:10.32 | peetah | *compiled |
| 23:11.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php?search=sequencer&go=Go&title=Special%3ASearch |
| 23:11.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ohmy |
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| 23:12.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, not suggesting we actually got SALSA, but anyway http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/SALSA-Library |
| 23:14.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/DevEmbedded |
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| 23:15.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | also interesting: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Soundcard#Setting_up_modprobe_and_kmod_support |
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| 23:20.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, first and foremost sequencer is for midi AFAIK |
| 23:21.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | then it allows for some soundcards to playback stored aufiosamples when triggered like an external midi sequencer |
| 23:22.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | neither of which is available on any contemporary sound"card" anymore |
| 23:22.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | all disclaimer: AFAIK |
| 23:23.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess you better find a way to build mame without sequencer support |
| 23:23.47 | nox- | alsa seq? you can use say timidity++ for midi playback too |
| 23:24.15 | nox- | i mean have it pick up seq input and play it via software from "soundfonts" |
| 23:24.55 | nox- | (tho i dunno if the n900 would be fast enough :) |
| 23:25.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, soundfonts been the fantastic word for that |
| 23:25.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 23:28.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | 'even' N900 should be fast enough for that |
| 23:30.10 | nox- | well when /dev/snd/seq wouldnt be useless :) |
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