| 00:00.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | device only accepts signed firmware upgrades |
| 00:00.17 | Luke-Jr | yeah, pain |
| 00:00.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | goes vomiting |
| 00:00.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | N9? |
| 00:00.33 | Luke-Jr | I'm gently making legal threats, but that's probably slow and futile :/ |
| 00:00.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | or andridiot |
| 00:00.51 | Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer05: sorry, I guess I wasn't clear on that: it's a Nest Learning Thermostat |
| 00:01.04 | Luke-Jr | not entirely on-topic, but I figured people here would be into rooting stuff |
| 00:01.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | a wut? |
| 00:01.15 | Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer05: a thermostat with a nice ARM SoC ;p |
| 00:01.23 | Luke-Jr | runs Linux and BusyBox |
| 00:01.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* |
| 00:01.37 | Luke-Jr | and has wifi |
| 00:01.50 | xes | and then whatelse? |
| 00:02.01 | Luke-Jr | but besides normal thermostat stuff (adjusting temperature), everything is locked down and remotely controlled by Nest Inc |
| 00:02.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | let's see if I can troll some more lusers in #freenode before they kick me XP |
| 00:02.31 | Luke-Jr | no clue why people pay $250 for this, but hopefully I can make it a nice home automation controller.. |
| 00:03.53 | xes | please.... dont't try to hunt a fly with a shotgun... :P |
| 00:05.26 | Luke-Jr | so anyhow, with upgrades needing signatures, I'm hoping someone with rooting skillz can find a buffer overflow or something :D |
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| 00:06.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | xes: when I fire a shotgun, I won't chase away flies that thing the nozzle is a nice airfield |
| 00:06.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | think* |
| 00:07.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | the one who infested my brain with this thing/think issue: FSCK YOU! |
| 00:07.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | never had that virus befor some 6 months ago |
| 00:08.51 | xes | :) |
| 00:09.59 | Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer05: interested in Nest rooting at all? :P |
| 00:15.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | wtf is Nest? |
| 00:16.06 | FIQ | an overengineered thermostat |
| 00:16.53 | FIQ | there's a lot of devices that only accept signed updates |
| 00:23.09 | Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer05: the thermostat with ARM SoC I posted a rootfs for ;) |
| 00:23.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, a thermostat with WLAN - - - what can I say |
| 00:24.16 | Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer05: "yes, I'd love to help you find a way to root it"? :P |
| 00:24.17 | bef0rd | this is the future |
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| 00:27.16 | nox- | DocScrutinizer05, a thermostat is nothing: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-24707337 |
| 00:27.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | nox-: sorry, busy in other channels |
| 00:28.04 | nox- | :) ok |
| 00:32.45 | Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer05: ok, maybe I should rephrase: how much of a bounty would interest you in rooting it? :P |
| 00:35.12 | xes | Luke-Jr: in the detail, what do you want obtain? |
| 00:37.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | Luke-Jr: 5 digits |
| 00:37.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, busy |
| 00:37.56 | Ashley` | 5 digits? 0.0000? :D |
| 00:38.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | with real fun stuff, like neo900 |
| 00:38.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bash Ashley` |
| 00:38.19 | infobot | ACTION beats Ashley` with ksh |
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| 00:56.40 | Luke-Jr | xes: hm? I want to build a kernel and run Gentoo on it. or Debian or something. |
| 00:57.07 | Luke-Jr | xes: even a shell would probably get me far enough for that, I'm guessing |
| 00:59.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | fun times on freenode. Seems we suffer a weird netsplit since 2h and registering with nickserv has weeks of dealy for gmail (and other) accounts |
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| 05:40.59 | solofight | when i do "sudo gainroot" it never asks me for the root password ! |
| 05:41.19 | solofight | i feel insecure with this mode of operation -- how do i change this ? |
| 05:44.16 | solofight | in linux usually the terminal offers you limited powers and you have to sudo to gain more powers right ! |
| 05:44.23 | solofight | how do i make the same way for the xterminal ? |
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| 07:43.14 | Apic | Re. |
| 07:46.25 | solofight | ok i waited for some time now so il repost |
| 07:46.30 | solofight | when i do "sudo gainroot" it never asks me for the root password ! |
| 07:46.32 | solofight | i feel insecure with this mode of operation -- how do i change this ? |
| 07:46.35 | solofight | in linux usually the terminal offers you limited powers and you have to sudo to gain more powers right ! |
| 07:46.37 | solofight | how do i make the same way for the xterminal ? |
| 07:47.26 | freemangordon_ | solofight: what? you are user "user" by default |
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| 07:48.45 | freemangordon_ | solofight: remove "rootsh" package and you are ok with "sudo gainroot" |
| 07:48.55 | solofight | freemangordon_: ahh ok |
| 07:49.16 | solofight | and is it possible to say that without the root password nobody can install or uninstall or do any setting change in my phone ? |
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| 07:49.51 | freemangordon | solofight: it can, via application manager (install/uninstall) |
| 07:49.59 | freemangordon | s/it/he |
| 07:50.14 | solofight | i tried applock applicaiton but when i open the applicaiton via GUI it waits for some time and goes back to the desktop (no appliaction opens) |
| 07:50.41 | freemangordon | solofight: did you read what "applock" does? |
| 07:51.19 | freemangordon | solofight: just set a lock code to the device, that way noone can access it wihout entering the code |
| 07:51.27 | solofight | freemangordon: yes, my understanding was it locks applications.... so that when a user tries to open the application it will ask for password/code and then unlock the app |
| 07:52.12 | solofight | freemangordon: say for example if i give the device to my friend/kids/etc to make a call/to play games .....etc - he cannot mess up with the settings |
| 07:52.22 | freemangordon | solofight: iirc, applock is a hack that puts itself in place of the real application. and it has some problems, iirc |
| 07:52.40 | solofight | freemangordon: problems like ? |
| 07:53.05 | freemangordon | solofight: can't exactly remember, but there were, search on TMO |
| 07:54.00 | freemangordon | solofight: I don;t think there is solution to the "friends/kids" problem, I usually solve that by saying - "be careful" :D |
| 07:56.30 | solofight | :P |
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| 08:27.09 | solofight | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.domobile.applock&hl=en |
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| 09:32.29 | solofight | DocScrutinizer05: tell me this - there seems to be a lack of mainteners for many *good* applications in maemo.... wont this drive away the user base ? |
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| 09:33.00 | solofight | i mean - people now a days buy smart phones mainly for the apps which can power the phones and help them in everyday activities |
| 09:33.08 | solofight | whats planned for maemo in this area ? |
| 09:35.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | solofight: maemo is FOSS. who might "plan" something for it? |
| 09:35.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | re sudo gainroot, see |
| 09:35.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 09:35.42 | infobot | [jrtools] http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 09:35.53 | solofight | DocScrutinizer05: not a single person - i am asking whether is there a roadmap for future of maemo ? |
| 09:36.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | no |
| 09:36.16 | solofight | DocScrutinizer05: can neo900 run android ? |
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| 09:36.29 | solofight | ! |
| 09:36.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | not really, except for porting it to Neo900 (and thus to other similar and further on maybe not so similar platforms) |
| 09:37.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, why shouldn't neo900 be able to run android? |
| 09:37.43 | solofight | DocScrutinizer05: is that a yes ? |
| 09:37.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, android can get ported to neo900 |
| 09:38.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | see |
| 09:38.00 | solofight | you mean neo900 can run it ? |
| 09:38.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | neo900.org |
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| 09:45.30 | solofight | DocScrutinizer05: i understand that its going to be open code.. it supports shr and freesmart phone os - am just asking whether its compatible with ubuntu or android |
| 09:45.42 | solofight | android mainly - because of their active applicaiton base |
| 09:45.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooooh, it would be a *brilliant* idea when somebody would implement that applock-function into hildon's applauncher, based on a new tag in .desktop file: X-MAEMO-APPLOCK or whatever |
| 09:46.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | solofight: how can a hardware be compatible to a software? |
| 09:47.06 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: and asking for the device lock code for the restricted applications? |
| 09:47.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | solofight: Neo900 ships with no software, basically. It's up to community to port whatever OS they want to Neo900 |
| 09:47.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: well, first approach: yes |
| 09:48.01 | freemangordon | hmm, makes sense |
| 09:48.15 | freemangordon | we could ask arcean if he wants to implement that |
| 09:48.29 | solofight | DocScrutinizer05: reg Applock ++ |
| 09:48.59 | solofight | DocScrutinizer05: reg H/w dependancy on S/w - i understand that it depends on the drivers lying with the S/w right ? |
| 09:50.24 | freemangordon | shit, lkml is down :( |
| 09:50.32 | freemangordon | lkml.org that is |
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| 09:53.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | solofight: we provide all docs/specs/datasheets for developing drivers for Neo900 hardware |
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| 09:54.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | solofight: we also will ship a BoardSupportPackage (BSP) that will come with most or even all drivers for the hw, based on a plain debian system |
| 09:54.43 | solofight | DocScrutinizer05: just an approximate number on users of n900 ? |
| 09:54.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | solofight: we will NOT provide drivers for android |
| 09:55.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | right now? and active? |
| 09:55.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | (users of n900 that is) |
| 09:57.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | a ~one year ago there been ~30k update downloads |
| 09:57.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | didn't count lately, so might be less (or even more) meanwhile |
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| 10:07.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: seems yesterday some stuff went south in internet at large. Freenode had a allegedly 12h of continuous netsplit, my box sufered the most massive cracking attack ever, and now lkml... :-S |
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| 11:21.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | 1.2MB log summary here |
| 11:22.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | usual carp: |
| 11:22.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:22.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:22.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:24.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | I just wonder how to block that with fail2ban or a netfilter rule |
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