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05:21.46r00t|eeepc<DocScrutinizer05> seems he's pretty ignorant about what's electricity and how it works
05:22.59r00t|eeepcthe battery isn't dangerous, at least compared to the vacuum cleaner... and it shorting the battery to the spring would cause problems, those would have happened already before i noticed the plastic was missing
05:24.15r00t|eeepcplus i would assume the spring simply has no electric connection to anything
05:27.01r00t|eeepcplus, if isolation by the plastic was critcal to safety, nokia should have used better glue... AND isolated the spring... else, just sue them into oblivion if it causes damage...
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08:37.31DocScrutinizer05plus a lot of untenable assumptions
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08:39.08DocScrutinizer05shall we put "but he jad the right of way" on your epitaph?
08:39.23DocScrutinizer05s/j/h/
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09:36.13DocScrutinizer05what a giant netsplit
09:36.23DocScrutinizer05more like a net-fractal
09:37.18DocScrutinizer05~+status
09:37.18infobotSince Wed Jan  1 20:57:14 2014, there have been 0 modifications, 35 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 5 commands.  I have been awake for 2d 12h 40m 4s this session, and currently reference 119218 factoids.  I'm using about 23612 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 521.81/6.67 child 0/0
09:37.25DocScrutinizer05~chaninfo
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09:37.41DocScrutinizer05why I can't believe that?
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10:21.40DocScrutinizer05welcome back, gals 'n guys
10:22.04joerg_maemoand byebye
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10:22.51DocScrutinizer05>>("Konversation terminated!").<< well, not really
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10:30.48FIQwhere can I configure user agent of microB?
10:31.12FIQor any way in general to prevent sites from redirecting me to silly mobile versions unless I go there myself
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10:45.39FIQer
10:46.08FIQuntil just now, I was unaware that shift+space switches from landscape/portrait/landscape in xterm
10:46.12FIQbut 2 issues
10:46.19FIQ1: it still writes a space
10:46.46FIQ2: it completely ignore the fact that I locked orientation, and even ignores the fact that my keyboard is out
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11:00.02DocScrutinizer05errwut?
11:00.04DocScrutinizer05FIQ: how the heck would you press shift-space when kbd is slide-in? ;-P
11:00.05DocScrutinizer05and I never knew about that, and doubt it somewhat
11:00.07DocScrutinizer05standard old xterm doesn't do any such stuff
11:00.08DocScrutinizer05not even CSSU-T7.2 does
11:00.10DocScrutinizer05I know microB had a "secret" hotkey-combo to allow portrait and text-wrapping
11:00.11DocScrutinizer05never heard about similar stuff in xterm, it would kinda be silly and mad
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11:51.30jdolesIs there something which has the function of https, but works via a web of trust?
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12:07.17SAiFmy xtrem doesnt change orientation
12:07.24DocScrutinizer05errr, like httpgp?
12:09.20DocScrutinizer05(xterm orientation) I guess FIQ's short of the battery burned away the mounting of xterm screen, now it dangles and when you press a few keys on kbd it comes completely loose and rotates ;-)
12:10.48SAiF:)
12:14.38DocScrutinizer05on a less joking note, I probably should check CSSU changelogs to learn if or if not such xterm orientation rotation function came since CSSU-T7.2
12:15.57DocScrutinizer05I'd not be too surprised when somebody thought it would be a cute idea to hardcode a special kbd shortcut into xterm - sth you obviously want to avoid by all means, for a *shell*
12:18.06DocScrutinizer05all key shortcuts are per default available to map them to arbitrary functions in the shell. *IF* any shortcuts are working on xterm level before even reaching the shell, then they frequently are SHIFT+CTRL+<key>
12:18.40DocScrutinizer05never something ordinary like shift+space :-o
12:20.24DocScrutinizer05heck, my xchat uses shift+space for nick completion. I'd expect that to work as well for irssi in a shell in xterm, if I ever were to use irssi
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12:39.48jdolesHow do I upgrade to a newer CSSU when I clicked on ignore when it was offered? (I didn't but functionally, that's what happened)
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12:41.42sixwheeledbeastjdoles: in HAM click update. Then if nothing try Refresh
12:43.15jdolessixwheeledbeast: thanks
12:44.57sixwheeledbeastit will remind you again every 24 hours if you haven't disabled that manually.
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12:47.33MrPingushift space is defined in xbindkeys if easy debian installed
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13:11.01r00t^home<DocScrutinizer05> FIQ: how the heck would you press shift-space when kbd is slide-in? ;-P
13:11.51r00t^homethe slide sensor only detects when the keyboard is 100% out... you can even type on it in portrait mode if you just leave it at 90% (top row is a bit hard to reach)
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13:34.01DocScrutinizer05r00t^home: and that's a valid usecase and justification for shift-space to rotate xterm?
13:39.09iDontanyone else experiencing trouble pushing commits to vcs.maemo.org?
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13:51.37DocScrutinizer05trouble?
13:56.05iDontDocScrutinizer05: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/9cc0dca0/
13:56.43freemangordoniDont: did you try to pull before push?
13:56.51freemangordongit pull --rebase that is
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13:58.01iDontI tried recloning the repo from vcs.maemo.org, reapply my commit, and push. Same error.
13:58.10iDontI'll try with git pull --rebase, one sec
13:58.42iDontgit pull --rebase: Current branch master is up to date.
13:58.52freemangordonhmm
13:59.02freemangordontry to push now
13:59.15DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: you can look into it?
13:59.27freemangordonI am afraid I can't help there
13:59.31iDontNope, still MOVE <SHA1> failed
13:59.50freemangordonPali knows more about how that works
14:00.16DocScrutinizer05I gather it's not a problem native to vcs VM?
14:00.26freemangordonmaybe something with the user righst
14:00.33freemangordonrights
14:00.40freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: is it NFS mount?
14:00.49DocScrutinizer05mompls
14:01.41freemangordoniDont: http://www.mkonrad.net/Blog/Git-over-HTTPWebDAV-A-solution-for-git-http-push-failed-errors
14:01.53DocScrutinizer05http://privatepaste.com/01b38c72fc
14:02.27freemangordoniDont: try it once again :D
14:03.48freemangordoniDont: and pastebin the output
14:03.49iDont~/.netrc contains the right credentials (just checked by manually logging in to garage.mameo.org). Pushing stills fails with the same error :/
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14:04.20iDontnew paste: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/00e07816/
14:04.34freemangordonhmm, didn't help
14:04.50freemangordonanyway, something with your authentication is not OK
14:05.08DocScrutinizer05damn, doesn't that git stuff have a -DDDD option?
14:05.22freemangordoniDont: BTW why do you use HTTP, but not ssh?
14:06.25freemangordonanyway, I need to find something to eat, I'am starving, bbl
14:06.40DocScrutinizer05HAH! xes on vcs (unrelated)
14:06.40iDontfreemangordon: no particular reason, git push over http was easy and always worked. I do upload to the autobuilder via ssh though
14:06.53xes;)
14:07.13xeshello guys!
14:07.16DocScrutinizer05hi xes! :-) how's life?
14:07.50xesDocScrutinizer05:  rainy? ...not too bad anyway
14:09.46DocScrutinizer05dang git. Never heard of "debug"
14:15.06xeshttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/6178401/how-can-i-debug-git-git-shell-related-problems
14:17.50DocScrutinizer05<PROTECTED>
14:17.54DocScrutinizer05o.O
14:19.31iDontDocScrutinizer05: I don't recall changing it :/. Anyhow, it has been a long time since last git push and I've distro-switched my laptop after the last successful commit
14:19.41DocScrutinizer05please keep in mind that autorized-key is supposed to get propagated from garage to all other machines, and that can take qute a while (up to eternal, until done manually, when thinks act up)
14:20.00iDontI'll try git push via ssh with a new keypair later today
14:20.42DocScrutinizer054SbcVk60b1sIPipsYiqw3L3BuZmGyD/dIwsHlfOsqTh8=  is tail of your ssh key
14:20.58DocScrutinizer05as of above, since 4min
14:22.28DocScrutinizer05is it normal that even root can't cd into a rwx------ dir ?? :-o
14:24.12DocScrutinizer05root@vcs:/mnt/homedirs_groups# ll bus*er
14:24.13DocScrutinizer05ls: cannot open directory busybox-power: Permission denied
14:24.43DocScrutinizer05meh, sorry. I need FOOOOOD
14:25.15xesDocScrutinizer05:  :) in that case everything is possible
14:25.50DocScrutinizer05xes: could you check the NFS mounts please?
14:26.25DocScrutinizer05root@vcs:/mnt/homedirs_groups# ll -d bus*er
14:26.27DocScrutinizer05drwx------ 2 www-data www-data 4096 Jul  5  2011 busybox-power/
14:26.35xesalready doing it. Anyway, concerning the git troubles i can't find anything usefule in the logs.
14:26.52DocScrutinizer05thanks!
14:27.41iDontThanks for all the help, but I g2g now.  I've created a new keypair and updated my public key at garage.maemo.org. I'll try pushing over ssh (instead of http) later today.
14:28.06DocScrutinizer05iDont: propagating new key from garage takes ages
14:28.19DocScrutinizer05may take ages
14:28.19iDonttomorrow it is, then :)
14:28.50iDonthmm, well, git push over http should still work. Will check out GIT_CURL_VERBOSE=1 and GIT_TRACE=1 then
14:29.14iDont*should still work without correct ssh key
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14:29.47DocScrutinizer05no idea, I'm a bloody noob regarding git
14:30.28DocScrutinizer05why the heck I'm +o?
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14:31.09iDontanyway, thanks for the help, appreciated. Bye!
14:31.15DocScrutinizer05o/
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14:38.53xesDocScrutinizer05: i have checked the NFS share. All seems right. http://seriousbirder.com/blogs/netapp-nfs-permission-denied-errors-for-root/    Probably it's be a choice to avoid permission escalatation between servers
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14:39.19DocScrutinizer05:nod:
14:39.37DocScrutinizer05thanks
14:39.41xesnp
14:40.44DocScrutinizer05su - wwwdata should do nevertheless ;-P
14:41.02xesimpossible
14:41.19xes:)
14:41.21DocScrutinizer05hm?
14:41.47DocScrutinizer05is my brain already that much on hypoglyc mode?
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17:45.41r00t^homeDocScrutinizer05: does xterm really do that? has the one responsible been found and taken care of yet?
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18:40.34ShadowJKMine does nothing on shift-space or whatever it was
18:46.28freemangordonShadowJK: do you have second HW keyboard set up?
18:46.36ShadowJKno
18:47.06freemangordonthen nothing can happen on shift-space :)
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19:07.12MrPingufreemangordon: isn't that ctrl + space?
19:07.42MrPinguI switch keyboard languages with ctrl + space
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21:02.09DocScrutinizer05https://github.com/elvanderb/TCP-32764  LOL
21:08.12HumpelstilzchenDocScrutinizer05: something new to install on the n900?
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21:09.20DocScrutinizer05rather someting old to uninstall on your regular router
21:10.41DocScrutinizer05though, seems the exploit-POC is written in python, you could most likely run it on N900 to root quite a list of vulnerable routers
21:10.42HumpelstilzchenI keep some tools on my n900 to check the security in friendly environments
21:11.41DocScrutinizer05or just use telnet ;-)   `telnet 192.168.4.1 32764`
21:11.51DocScrutinizer05to at least check
21:11.58DocScrutinizer05netcat or socat to access
21:15.04Humpelstilzchenhmpf needs python2.6
21:16.31Humpelstilzchenoh not really, thats python3
21:16.41DocScrutinizer05http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Router-auf-Backdoor-testen-2074844.html (german!)
21:24.52DocScrutinizer05http://isc.sans.org/diary/Scans+Increase+for+New+Linksys+Backdoor+(%0A32764TCP)/17336
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21:32.36Humpelstilzchenwow really ugly
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