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| 04:49.38 | Sysaxed | is there any way to get 'beep' command to work? If I run it as user it says 'beep: can't open console' and if I run it under root there is no error but it does not make any sound |
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| 05:05.01 | Sysaxed | oh come on |
| 05:05.19 | Sysaxed | there is espeak for text-to-speech but no beeper? |
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| 05:18.24 | Sysaxed | I hope I did not miss the answer |
| 05:20.53 | cehteh | just $espeak "beeb beep beep" |
| 05:28.46 | Sysaxed | ... |
| 05:28.52 | Sysaxed | umm :\ |
| 05:29.10 | Sysaxed | espeak e |
| 05:30.36 | Sysaxed | oh! Here's the beep |
| 05:30.41 | Sysaxed | espeak 'de' |
| 05:36.14 | Sicelo | Sysaxed: doesn't appear to be... i also needed it for irssi.. no luck |
| 05:36.36 | Sysaxed | Sicelo: yeah :\ |
| 05:37.52 | Sicelo | is planning to recompile irssi with perl support, after which one could get audible notifications using a script of some sort |
| 05:39.34 | Sysaxed | Sicelo: a script of some sort? |
| 05:39.36 | Sysaxed | like what? |
| 05:42.22 | Sicelo | i have seen 'beep.pl' and my_beep.pl' on irssi's site... seems that would 'intercept' beep requests and do some command you specify instead |
| 05:42.48 | Sicelo | alas, n900's irssi doesn't do scripts ootb |
| 05:43.01 | Sicelo | xchat has ssl issues :( |
| 05:43.34 | Sicelo | and i did not like all the other available IRC clients. |
| 05:44.53 | Sysaxed | Sicelo: okay-okay, lets say you did that |
| 05:45.03 | Sysaxed | how could you produce a beep sound anyway? |
| 05:45.18 | Sysaxed | you can play an audio file, yeah, but besides that? |
| 05:45.30 | Sysaxed | I want to control frequency |
| 05:45.39 | Sicelo | lol, no beep :p |
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| 09:08.44 | freemangordon | ~flash |
| 09:08.44 | infobot | somebody said maemo-flashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
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| 10:20.47 | sixwheeledbeast | goes looking in /usr/share |
| 10:31.01 | sixwheeledbeast | Oh seems you can't do an alias with messybox, hmm, nvm |
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| 12:27.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: playsound path/to/beep.wav |
| 12:29.10 | sixwheeledbeast | I thought the idea was to get the "beep" command to work? |
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| 12:48.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: the beep command uses console's ISA-PC specific access to PC speaker via some gate A4711. N900 doesn't have a PC speaker nor that gate |
| 12:49.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe it's not a gate but a IO addr |
| 12:50.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway N900 has no such digital beeper speaker, not even emulated in audiomixer chip |
| 12:51.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's no other way but ALSA basically (or methods that exploit the ALSA soundcrads), to play a beep sound |
| 12:51.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | cards, even |
| 12:53.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | to be more specific, the beep is a special ioctl command in console, and console translates that into spftware "playback" a certain square wave pattern to a GPIO |
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| 13:01.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/1974/how-do-i-make-my-pc-speaker-beep >>On linux, there is a fourth badass method for beeping: unload the pcspkr module, load the snd-pcsp, and you now have a alsa soundcard that uses old-school tricks to actually feed digital sound to your internal speaker.<< |
| 13:05.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw you *could* use sox as a extreme overkill replacement for beep binary |
| 13:06.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | unlike beep sox will allow to define the *audio* device to use, to playback the beep sound. Apart from that is also has freq and duration afaik |
| 13:07.00 | Wizzup | sox is cool |
| 13:09.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | For example, the following produces a 3 second, 48kHz, audio file containing a sine-wave swept from 300 to 3300 Hz: |
| 13:09.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | Frequencies can also be given in `scientific' note notation, or, by prefixing a `%' character, as a number of semitones relative to `middle A' (440 Hz). For example, the |
| 13:10.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:11.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((play is an alias for sox)) |
| 13:11.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:11.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:15.22 | sixwheeledbeast | hmm, sox I'll look at that. I don't know what application Sysaxed was to use "beep" for. |
| 13:15.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | however note that ALL these methods will NOT playback sound in your remote attached ssh session, but always on the machine you're logged into |
| 13:16.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | audio is local to the machine the command gets executed on |
| 13:16.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | not local to the terminal |
| 13:17.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | though trivial, it's a often forgotten detail |
| 13:18.18 | sixwheeledbeast | I was just reading that on your link above |
| 13:18.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you want to make irssi in your ssh session play a beep locally on your remote xterm, then you need to teach *xterm* to play some sound on ^G |
| 13:20.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't know of any maemo xterm or whatever terminal prog that supports this |
| 13:20.22 | kerio | it's probably easier to do that with a wrapper program, fwiw |
| 13:20.46 | kerio | also, am i the only one who wants his electronic devices to be completely silent? |
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| 13:21.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | you mean sth like `beepwrapper ssh me@box irssi` ? |
| 13:21.15 | kerio | sure, why not |
| 13:21.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, feasible |
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| 13:27.45 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | Please see http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Weekly_News | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 13:27.49 | kerio | infobot: hi! |
| 13:27.49 | infobot | hi |
| 13:27.52 | kerio | :3 |
| 13:27.57 | kerio | infobot: <3 |
| 13:27.57 | infobot | from memory, <3 is love |
| 13:27.59 | SAiF | ~PING |
| 13:28.00 | infobot | ~pong |
| 13:28.04 | kerio | it is! |
| 13:28.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+uptime |
| 13:28.50 | SAiF | infobot in xmas mood? |
| 13:29.27 | sixwheeledbeast | ~xmas |
| 13:29.27 | infobot | 'Twas the night before christmas, and all through the shack, not a creature was stirring, 'cept the skript kid, learning to hack. The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, as he sat at his computer cracking aware. The pornos were stacked all over his room, he knew nothing of his impending doom. |
| 13:31.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo xmas |
| 13:31.05 | infobot | xmas -- created by syz <syz@mercury.dreamland.co.uk> at Wed Jan 10 00:02:23 2001 (4729 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by sixwheeledbeast, 1m 38s ago. |
| 13:31.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | thought as much, sounded old by diction |
| 13:31.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
| 13:33.48 | sixwheeledbeast | ~factinfo christmas |
| 13:33.48 | infobot | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 13:33.48 | infobot | christmas -- last modified at Sun Dec 29 12:44:17 2002 by Niffum!niffum@pobax3-224.dialup.optusnet.com.au; it has been requested 12 times, last by sixwheeledbeast, 27s ago. |
| 13:34.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | today this sounds like "... The socks at the chimney waited for crap, as he sat at his box and cracking an app. All the pr0n was scattered alover the room..." |
| 13:34.34 | sixwheeledbeast | :D |
| 13:34.40 | SAiF | :P |
| 13:36.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | tries hard to come up with a non-lame joke about "doom" |
| 13:36.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki doom2 |
| 13:37.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | WTF? |
| 13:37.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah cover artwork |
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| 13:41.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | moin dos1 |
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| 15:17.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | idly wonders if it's longer daylight than yesterday. Seems like :-) |
| 15:19.27 | Wizzup | Isn't the longest day somewhere around 24? |
| 15:19.30 | Wizzup | er, night |
| 15:24.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_solstice |
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| 15:26.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>In the UK, the precise time of the solstice will be 5.11pm on Saturday December 21st 2013.<< |
| 15:26.23 | freemangordon | hmm, my sister's device has /home fs screwed up, should I flass eMMC as well? |
| 15:26.32 | freemangordon | flash* |
| 15:26.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | so definitely today is longer than yesterday |
| 15:26.42 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: ^^^ |
| 15:26.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: yes |
| 15:27.04 | freemangordon | thanks |
| 15:27.09 | freemangordon | ~flashing |
| 15:27.10 | infobot | maemo-flashing is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
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| 17:08.22 | Sysaxed | does anybody know why does 'espeak' work but 'flite' does not? |
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| 17:14.52 | Sysaxed | flite -t Test -o - | play-sound - |
| 17:14.54 | Sysaxed | huh... |
| 17:17.21 | Sysaxed | noooooooo!!! |
| 17:17.38 | Sysaxed | flite version is too old, there's no way to choose any other voice |
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| 17:27.54 | Sysaxed | okay, and the only dependency is dpkg >= 1.15.4 |
| 17:28.21 | Sysaxed | and maemo has 1.14.25 |
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| 17:32.59 | Sysaxed | flite-1.3-release October 2005 |
| 17:33.02 | Sysaxed | seriously... |
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| 17:46.35 | Sysaxed | how can I install build-essential? says that it has no installation candidate |
| 17:47.06 | Sysaxed | and I have extras and extras-devel repos |
| 17:47.12 | Sysaxed | is there anything else that I'm missing? |
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| 17:49.49 | hbib1 | I think you sadly can't just install build-essentials, but must install the so called scratchbox-environment. |
| 17:50.22 | hbib1 | There are some tutorials out there how to do this on the n900 itself. |
| 17:56.59 | Sysaxed | hm, that's weird |
| 17:57.14 | Sysaxed | actually I remember having build-essential installed on my phone some years ago |
| 17:57.20 | Sysaxed | I'm not sure how I did that... |
| 17:58.01 | hbib1 | maybe within debian chroot ? |
| 17:58.51 | Sysaxed | hm, I dont' know |
| 17:59.04 | Sysaxed | can't I just add sdk repo and pull build-essential from it? |
| 18:00.22 | int_ua | wait, I have build-essential on N900 right now |
| 18:00.41 | int_ua | Sysaxed, yeah, IIRC, you absolutely can |
| 18:00.54 | Sysaxed | int_ua: so that's how you did that? |
| 18:00.56 | int_ua | just watch out for rootfs space |
| 18:01.03 | int_ua | IIRC, yes |
| 18:01.04 | Sysaxed | yeah. |
| 18:02.52 | Sysaxed | okay, gonna try it out a bit later |
| 18:02.54 | Sysaxed | have to go now |
| 18:02.58 | Sysaxed | thank you guys |
| 18:03.15 | int_ua | I'm trying to use valgrind to check ssh-status widget for memory leaks and I don't yet understand how to do it. Do I have to run valgrind on the whole hilgon-status-menu? |
| 18:03.36 | int_ua | Sysaxed, you are welcome :) |
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| 18:04.10 | merlin1991 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.19 | merlin1991 | so yeah you do have to run the whole status menu in valgrind |
| 18:06.34 | kerio | world's slowest status menu |
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| 18:54.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sysaxed: you don't want nor can install all that's needed for building real stuff (not "hello world") in / |
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| 18:55.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why usually that stuff gets installed in a easydev chroot when for some strange reason somebody thinks it's inevitable for her/him to build on target platform |
| 19:02.41 | int_ua | DocScrutinizer05, what easydev chroot? |
| 19:03.30 | freemangordon | int_ua: BTW I have build newer valgring, the stock one doesn;t play nicely with thumb/neon instructions |
| 19:03.47 | freemangordon | I can provide it if you need it |
| 19:04.03 | int_ua | freemangordon, thanks, right now I'm in VM :) |
| 19:04.07 | freemangordon | (maybe will upload it to repos some day) |
| 19:04.11 | freemangordon | ok |
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| 19:06.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooops, easydeb |
| 19:06.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | typo, sorry |
| 19:07.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/easy-deb-chroot/ |
| 19:07.53 | int_ua | freemangordon, I wanted to build on the device once, but dev files are just too big. But still looking forward to see a newer version in repos. Appreciate this :) |
| 19:08.22 | freemangordon | int_ua: hmm, you can build in SB and run valgrind on the device itself |
| 19:08.40 | int_ua | hmm |
| 19:08.43 | freemangordon | I mean... you only need -dbg packages installed |
| 19:09.13 | freemangordon | but you can easy symlink /usr/lib/debug to a directory on the uSD card and avoid rottfs fill issues |
| 19:09.34 | freemangordon | *rootfs full |
| 19:10.14 | freemangordon | I don;t think running valgrind in SB against hildon-desktop or hildon-home makes much of a sense |
| 19:10.24 | freemangordon | though... |
| 19:11.04 | freemangordon | maybe I am wrong :) |
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| 19:15.03 | ampharos | MASS PANIC, iOS 7 JAILBREAK |
| 19:20.20 | int_ua | ampharos, not here. |
| 19:20.49 | ampharos | doesn't matter there's riots on the streets and everyone's out for blood thanks to the chinese |
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| 19:28.14 | fw190 | hello |
| 19:28.32 | fw190 | is it me or TMO is flooded with Jolla and Sailfish :) |
| 19:28.51 | freemangordon | it is, so what? |
| 19:29.41 | freemangordon | it was flooded with n9 by the time it went out |
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| 19:36.53 | fw190 | freemangrdon: true |
| 19:37.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | flooded tmo doesn't mean anything |
| 19:37.17 | fw190 | but not much left of N900 |
| 19:37.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | except that I maybe should bump the neo900 thread ;-P |
| 19:37.32 | fw190 | I'm a daily lurker and not much to read anymore |
| 19:37.37 | fw190 | Yes |
| 19:37.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | not much left? |
| 19:37.45 | fw190 | this is the thread that needs to be bumped |
| 19:37.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | does tmo auto-clean |
| 19:37.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | ? |
| 19:38.07 | fw190 | well not much about N900 - new things I mean |
| 19:38.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't think a single post related to N900 vanished due to the flooding |
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| 19:39.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | so what's the damage done? when you say "not much left" this implies there's something missing |
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| 19:40.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | except n900 related threads on high ranks in "new posts" I can't see anything missing |
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| 19:41.01 | fw190 | DocScrutinizer05: nah my bad - not native and not perfect with English - you are right |
| 19:41.22 | fw190 | but you get my point I ope ;) |
| 19:41.26 | fw190 | hope even |
| 19:41.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't think the activity in N900 related topics gone down since sailfish "flood" |
| 19:42.17 | kerio | ~seen luf |
| 19:42.17 | infobot | luf <~luf@80.188.29.62> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 13d 8h 50m 17s ago, saying: 'Because there is silence :D'. |
| 19:42.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe it's not as easy to see since it gets covered by more activity in sailfish related posts |
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| 19:44.09 | fw190 | that it was I emant in the biginning |
| 19:44.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: infobot has an cross-chan ciew of ~seen. it's not needed to post it in multiple channels |
| 19:44.46 | kerio | i figured after i typed that |
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