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| 00:23.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/vote/results.php?election_id=35 |
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| 00:28.31 | GeneralAntilles | I totally forgot to vote. |
| 00:28.32 | GeneralAntilles | Go me. |
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| 00:45.07 | *** topic/#maemo by DocScrutinizer05 -> Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | Please see http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Weekly_News | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 00:49.56 | M4rtinK | well, I actually remembered at about 23:50 |
| 00:50.28 | M4rtinK | after a few previous alarms I've set sounded when I was too busy to vote |
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| 01:11.52 | Kabouik_ | Hey there |
| 01:12.20 | Kabouik_ | I'm trying to install CSSU Thumb using the wiki, but I got a "no handler configured x-install-instruction (.install)" error when clicking on the "stable" link with Maemo |
| 01:12.26 | Kabouik_ | With MicroB sorry |
| 01:12.49 | Kabouik_ | What should I do so that MicroB properly triggers the application manager? |
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| 01:27.43 | amonk | Is there a way to determine the cellular frequency currently in use on the Nokia N900? |
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| 01:39.40 | Ori_ | hi guys, i own a n900, im new to it, i just need to find a way to make my phone beep when i receive a facebook notification, facebook widget is nice but i didnt hear any beep, i know its random but just wondering if anyone knows |
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| 01:51.00 | nox- | i think its somewhere in settings, notify on im messages... (or maybe that was only for the led?) |
| 01:52.22 | Ori_ | when i touch the settings icon it just lets me see my login info |
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| 02:02.45 | nox- | i mean the n900 settings not the fb ones |
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| 02:03.14 | nox- | (unless fb doesnt count as im) |
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| 02:10.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | Kabouik_: strange. please ask in #maemo-ssu |
| 02:11.41 | Kabouik_ | DocScrutinizer05 thanks. Apparently I already had enabled CSSU testing repositories earlier, maybe that was the issue. Actually I have not used my N900 in several years, I don't remember what is installed and which tweaks I applied |
| 02:11.57 | Ori_ | nox i think it was only for the led |
| 02:12.00 | Kabouik_ | But it appears apt-get is totally messed up, and apt-get -f install won't solve it, so... |
| 02:12.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | Kabouik_: then I suggest full of PR1.3.1 |
| 02:12.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | prior to installing CSSU |
| 02:13.02 | nox- | Ori_, hm ok |
| 02:13.03 | Kabouik_ | I have it already, and clean install totally depresses me |
| 02:13.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, we can't give support for installing CSSU on random messed up system |
| 02:13.52 | Kabouik_ | I will take so long to install all apps I had, reformat partitions, bleeding edge drivers, QBW widget to totally reconfigure... I know I won't do it unfortunately |
| 02:13.57 | Kabouik_ | Yes I know, not asking |
| 02:14.11 | Kabouik_ | Just disappointed to discover that the system seems messed up |
| 02:16.49 | Kabouik_ | I'll probably do a fresh install someday, but my main concern is I totally forgot how I set up my multiboots. Don't remember if it is uboot, multiboot, or anything, compatible kernels, and I'm afraid I will lose everything |
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| 02:29.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~maemo-multiboot |
| 02:29.20 | infobot | somebody said maemo-multiboot was deprecated, and a horrible hack. PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED |
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| 03:13.47 | amonk | Kabouik_: apt needs to be pointed to the equivalent resources at skeiron.org. |
| 03:15.42 | amonk | ... and still hoping someone will address this: "Is there a way to determine the cellular frequency currently in use on the Nokia N900?" :) |
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| 04:30.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | amonk: see netmon |
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| 07:09.18 | wmarone__ | hmm, this openmoko lives |
| 07:09.25 | wmarone__ | and is running an ancient build of android |
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| 08:02.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, IT service time (local). I might miss highlights and/or channels I'm supposed to have joined |
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| 08:45.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack |
| 08:45.54 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: thanks |
| 08:47.29 | zamn900 | ~botsuck lollipop |
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| 09:01.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~lollipop |
| 09:01.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 09:02.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys lolli |
| 09:02.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah |
| 09:02.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~lollipop zamn900 |
| 09:02.31 | infobot | Here, suck on this, zamn900 |
| 09:03.05 | zamn900 | xd |
| 09:04.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wtf xd |
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| 09:10.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.zazzle.com/smiley_emoticon_tongue_a_coffee_mugs-168336862974202961 maybe? |
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| 09:17.07 | amonk | DocScrutinizer05: Thanks, cool app, but netmon doesn't show the frequency in use. |
| 09:18.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | it does: via channel |
| 09:18.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | zammy: or raher this: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/12/15/plasma-desktopzU3489.png ? |
| 09:18.53 | zammy | haha -.- |
| 09:20.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw I had to snapshot this pic from google, since the site is infested by XXX content you can't bypass or close |
| 09:20.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | weird |
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| 09:21.31 | zammy | agcom and google and corps are making puratanism |
| 09:21.42 | zammy | *puritanism |
| 09:23.25 | zammy | DocScrutinizer05, http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/218111_136658019813886_1159392076_n.jpg |
| 09:24.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
| 09:28.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | wow, this made me find http://www.tineye.com/ |
| 09:28.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | which is working great it seems |
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| 11:27.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | amonk: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UARFCN |
| 11:28.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | amonk: and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands |
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| 11:30.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands |
| 11:31.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | channel number |
| 11:33.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | amonk: IIRC netmon shows ARFCN/channel |
| 11:38.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops it doesn't |
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| 12:01.20 | sixwheeledbeast | So I am back trying to work this out https://privatepaste.com/9586e2cfa9 ssh keys are ok. From searching around I am thinking this will fix http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1383522&postcount=18 Seems fmg is offline :( |
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| 12:07.51 | merlin1991 | sixwheeledbeast: you should drop all the files a folder higher |
| 12:09.11 | merlin1991 | just like it says in http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras-devel#scp |
| 12:09.23 | merlin1991 | <your_garage_login_name>@drop.maemo.org:/var/www/extras-devel/incoming-builder/fremantle/ |
| 12:09.45 | sixwheeledbeast | merlin1991: the fremantle/perl is a "/n" error I am not dropping in fremantle/perl |
| 12:10.57 | merlin1991 | can you run it with scp -v and paste that |
| 12:11.20 | sixwheeledbeast | https://privatepaste.com/08833251c2 |
| 12:12.50 | merlin1991 | sixwheeledbeast: I see no -v in that command line ;) |
| 12:13.28 | sixwheeledbeast | merlin1991: I am pastebining it now. mompls |
| 12:15.04 | sixwheeledbeast | https://privatepaste.com/86f3029d6a |
| 12:15.15 | sixwheeledbeast | merlin1991 ^^ |
| 12:17.17 | merlin1991 | sixwheeledbeast: I just checked your shell on the server, it is restritcted to git stuff |
| 12:18.37 | sixwheeledbeast | ok so it can be changed? I have never used git. |
| 12:19.36 | merlin1991 | did you apply for extras uploader rights? |
| 12:20.34 | merlin1991 | hm you're set as accepted on garage |
| 12:20.39 | merlin1991 | seems the sync still is partly foobar |
| 12:20.49 | merlin1991 | I'm going to give you your proper shell by hand |
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| 12:22.11 | sixwheeledbeast | merlin1991 I applied years ago, I can only think something got screwed when testing autobuilder during migration. |
| 12:22.44 | sixwheeledbeast | extra-assistant works great but this file is too big so times out. |
| 12:23.32 | merlin1991 | sixwheeledbeast: shell changed, happy uploading :) |
| 12:23.57 | sixwheeledbeast | merlin1991: I'll test now ty very much |
| 12:24.27 | sixwheeledbeast | Cool, uploading :) |
| 12:24.41 | merlin1991 | btw you can use rsync aswell |
| 12:25.04 | merlin1991 | but then again compressing a tar.gz again won't yield much effect :D |
| 12:26.20 | sixwheeledbeast | :nod: |
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| 12:26.53 | sixwheeledbeast | Exit status 0, so hopefully it will be in the queu soon :) |
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| 12:59.29 | sixwheeledbeast | ~pkg |
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| 19:17.31 | bennypr0fane | Hello, this is an off-topic request for help because there are usually many experienced developers in here and I wouldn't know any better place to ask: |
| 19:17.50 | bennypr0fane | I'm trying to build a Debian program from source |
| 19:19.28 | bennypr0fane | It's transcriberAG, I want to install it on LMDE. It is not packaged as .deb, so I'm trying to isntall it |
| 19:19.28 | bennypr0fane | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:19.28 | bennypr0fane | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:19.28 | bennypr0fane | there is this mysterious line, saying: "#include <gtkmm.h>" I believe it is an instruction that might solve my problem, but I don't know how to apply it to what, I have no idea what it means |
| 19:19.29 | bennypr0fane | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:20.55 | bennypr0fane | (btw yes, I posted this in #lmde channel first, no reply...) |
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| 19:21.43 | freemangordon | bennypr0fane: try to install gtkmm-dev package |
| 19:22.06 | freemangordon | or maybe it is called libgtkmm-dev |
| 19:23.11 | freemangordon | bennypr0fane: or maybe it is libgtkmm-2.4-dev :) |
| 19:23.44 | bennypr0fane | freemangordon: I have that installed. there are 2 different ones: libgtkmm-3.0-dev and libgtkmm-2.4-dev I installed both |
| 19:24.21 | freemangordon | bennypr0fane: does the package you try to compile have build-depends section in its debian/control file? |
| 19:24.53 | freemangordon | oh |
| 19:24.57 | freemangordon | it is not packaged |
| 19:25.09 | bennypr0fane | not sure. I'm following the instructions here: http://transag.sourceforge.net/index.php?content=install |
| 19:26.48 | freemangordon | bennypr0fane: hmm, weird |
| 19:27.32 | bennypr0fane | actually some guy seems to have had a similar problem: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=593872#post593872 |
| 19:27.36 | freemangordon | anyway, this is cmake, I am not familiar with it. but for sure the correct package you need is libmm-xx-dev |
| 19:27.55 | freemangordon | libgtkmm-xx-dev that is |
| 19:28.03 | bennypr0fane | ...but of course I don't understand what he did |
| 19:28.10 | freemangordon | he? |
| 19:28.18 | freemangordon | oh, sorry |
| 19:29.56 | freemangordon | bennypr0fane: are there gtkmm-2.4 and gtkmm-30 folders in /usr/include? |
| 19:30.26 | freemangordon | bennypr0fane: also, could you pastebin the exact error you have |
| 19:30.29 | bennypr0fane | here is the output I get from make: http://pastie.org/8554300 |
| 19:32.46 | bennypr0fane | yes: these folders are present |
| 19:32.47 | bennypr0fane | ~ $ cd /usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 |
| 19:32.48 | bennypr0fane | ben@poidl-lmde /usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 $ ls |
| 19:32.48 | bennypr0fane | gtkmm gtkmm.h |
| 19:34.08 | freemangordon | bennypr0fane: try CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 cmake |
| 19:34.19 | freemangordon | and make after that ofc :) |
| 19:35.54 | bennypr0fane | you mean I should insert this line in the /usr/include/gtkmm-x.x/gtkmm.h file? |
| 19:36.03 | bennypr0fane | or run this line in terminal? |
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| 19:36.29 | freemangordon | no, I mean to run in terminal "CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 cmake" in the main project dir |
| 19:36.38 | freemangordon | without quotes :) |
| 19:37.02 | freemangordon | don;t toudch the files in /usr/include ;) |
| 19:37.06 | freemangordon | *touch |
| 19:37.07 | bennypr0fane | ok |
| 19:37.36 | bennypr0fane | the main project dir would be the one I extracted the tarball to, yes? |
| 19:37.45 | freemangordon | should be |
| 19:38.15 | freemangordon | the same place you run that cmake for the first time |
| 19:38.28 | freemangordon | hmm, did you run it actually? |
| 19:38.32 | freemangordon | cmake that is |
| 19:39.16 | bennypr0fane | yes I did |
| 19:39.40 | freemangordon | ok, run ^^^ from the same place |
| 19:39.59 | bennypr0fane | that's not the root of the tarball though |
| 19:40.39 | freemangordon | ok, the step 4 from here http://transag.sourceforge.net/index.php?content=install |
| 19:40.49 | freemangordon | should be "CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 cmake" |
| 19:40.54 | bennypr0fane | following those instructions, i first ran cmake in libs/build |
| 19:40.55 | freemangordon | without quotes |
| 19:41.00 | bennypr0fane | ok |
| 19:41.06 | freemangordon | ops, sorry |
| 19:41.15 | freemangordon | it should be "CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 cmake ../" |
| 19:41.37 | freemangordon | the same for the step 8 |
| 19:41.41 | bennypr0fane | a question: why gtkmm-2.4 and not 3.0? |
| 19:41.46 | freemangordon | no idea :) |
| 19:41.58 | freemangordon | try with 3.0 if 2.4 fails |
| 19:42.25 | bennypr0fane | I have the Cinnamon desktop on this pc, which is GTK 3, I think? |
| 19:42.52 | freemangordon | bennypr0fane: the point is - it is a good idea to lower your dependencies, do not use newer libs if don;t need to |
| 19:42.56 | bennypr0fane | maybe then it'd make sense to try 3.0 first? I'm just guessing |
| 19:43.02 | bennypr0fane | aha |
| 19:43.04 | freemangordon | ok, should not matter |
| 19:43.27 | bennypr0fane | see there's one precious piece of developer knowledge |
| 19:43.52 | bennypr0fane | alright, trying now |
| 19:46.19 | bennypr0fane | this looks like it succeeded: http://pastie.org/8554325 |
| 19:46.47 | freemangordon | well, make it first :) |
| 19:47.24 | freemangordon | bennypr0fane: step 5 that is |
| 19:48.02 | freemangordon | bennypr0fane: BTW if you have multiple cores, you may want to "make -jN" where N is the number of cores you have |
| 19:48.13 | bennypr0fane | have 2 |
| 19:48.21 | bennypr0fane | it's faster? |
| 19:48.32 | freemangordon | yep. "make -j2" |
| 19:48.35 | bennypr0fane | ok |
| 19:49.39 | bennypr0fane | strange |
| 19:50.22 | bennypr0fane | I did make first, which produced like a dozen lines of output. then make -j2 in the same dir, couple pages of output. is that normal? |
| 19:50.43 | freemangordon | depends on what is written in the output :) |
| 19:51.04 | freemangordon | -j tells make to compile in parallel |
| 19:51.26 | freemangordon | or rather to start 2 compilers in parallel |
| 19:51.38 | freemangordon | it should be 2 times faster than without -j2 |
| 19:52.09 | bennypr0fane | veryvery long output :-( |
| 19:52.12 | bennypr0fane | http://pastie.org/8554337 |
| 19:52.32 | bennypr0fane | the compiling itself was definitely not faster |
| 19:52.45 | bennypr0fane | if that's what you mean |
| 19:53.08 | bennypr0fane | or you meant the execution of the program I'm running will be faster? |
| 19:53.21 | freemangordon | I mean the compilation |
| 19:53.31 | bennypr0fane | well that took a lot longer |
| 19:53.43 | freemangordon | anyway, I guess you should report to the application developer |
| 19:54.06 | freemangordon | /home/ben/v2.0.0-b1/libs/aglib-2.0.1/src/formats/AG/AG.cc:36:18: error: cannot declare variable ‘handler’ to be of abstract type ‘SAX_AGHandlers’ |
| 19:54.08 | freemangordon | In file included from /home/ben/v2.0.0-b1/libs/aglib-2.0.1/src/formats/AG/AG.cc:14:0: |
| 19:54.10 | freemangordon | /home/ben/v2.0.0-b1/libs/aglib-2.0.1/src/formats/AG/SAX_AGHandlers.h:24:7: note: because the following virtual functions are pure within ‘SAX_AGHandlers’: |
| 19:54.29 | freemangordon | In file included from /home/ben/v2.0.0-b1/libs/aglib-2.0.1/src/formats/AG/SAX_AGHandlers.h:17:0, |
| 19:54.31 | freemangordon | from /home/ben/v2.0.0-b1/libs/aglib-2.0.1/src/formats/AG/AG.cc:14: |
| 19:54.33 | freemangordon | /usr/include/xercesc/framework/XMLFormatter.hpp:454:18: note: virtual void xercesc_3_1::XMLFormatTarget::writeChars(const XMLByte*, XMLSize_t, xercesc_3_1::XMLFormatter*) |
| 19:55.14 | bennypr0fane | should I try making the other dir first? and try to install? |
| 19:55.24 | freemangordon | no |
| 19:55.34 | freemangordon | the build has failed |
| 19:56.30 | bennypr0fane | ok |
| 19:56.57 | bennypr0fane | so I should attach these lines to the report? or the whole thing? |
| 19:57.26 | freemangordon | bennypr0fane: yep. or even better - attach the whole output |
| 19:57.34 | bennypr0fane | ok |
| 19:58.01 | bennypr0fane | will have to resort to using media player and LO writer then... |
| 19:58.12 | bennypr0fane | Thank you so much for your time though! |
| 19:58.17 | bennypr0fane | greatly appreciated |
| 19:58.22 | freemangordon | np :) |
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