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| 03:46.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | [notice] Council Voting open! Please vote! |
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| 04:00.35 | *** topic/#maemo by DocScrutinizer05 -> VOTING BOOTH OPEN! | Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | Please see http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Weekly_News | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 09:36.56 | brolin_empey | Can a Nokia N900 recover from a flat battery by using a charger with 12V DC input instead of a charger with AC input? |
| 09:40.20 | brolin_empey | is asking because his Nokia N900 seemed to not charge enough from the Gomadic 12V DC to microUSB charger he uses in his car. |
| 09:43.44 | brolin_empey | I mean that, with the Gomadic 12V DC to microUSB charger powered by my car, my Nokia N900 seemed to not charge enough to ever finish booting. |
| 09:46.30 | ShadowJK | In theory it could recover enough from a charger powered by 2 AA batteries |
| 09:46.44 | ShadowJK | But not all chargers are created equal |
| 09:46.56 | useretail | lol |
| 09:47.35 | ShadowJK | Did it charge it when not flat? |
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| 09:55.30 | brolin_empey | Of course, I had a Nokia AV cable with me but not a Nokia AC to microUSB charger so I could not leave my Nokia N900 charging whilst I stayed overnight with an acquaintance. I tried to leave my Nokia N900 charging overnight from a desktop computer but my Nokia N900’s battery was flat by the time I was finished sleeping. I just realised that it may have prematurely stopped charging because of power management on the desktop computer. I forgot that not |
| 09:55.30 | brolin_empey | everyone leaves their desktop computers always running. |
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| 10:02.41 | ShadowJK | you dont have backupmenu installed, do you? |
| 10:03.12 | brolin_empey | ShadowJK: My Nokia N900 charged from my car enough that I could try to boot but it never finished booting. The LED was flashing orange but never became green until after I left my Nokia N900 charging from a Nokia AC to microUSB charger after I was back at my apartment. |
| 10:03.56 | ShadowJK | oh so it's alive now? |
| 10:05.33 | brolin_empey | ShadowJK: Yes, it is running Maemo 5 again. I could not use the IRC to ask about recovering from a flat battery whilst my battery was still flat. :-P |
| 10:05.45 | ShadowJK | lol |
| 10:08.46 | brolin_empey | ShadowJK: If the installation instructions for the stable CSSU on the official Maemo wiki recommended to use backupmenu to back up my Maemo 5 installation before installing the stable CSSU, then yes, I do have backupmenu installed. |
| 10:10.06 | ShadowJK | I once plugged in charger with keyboard open, and when menu came I booted to backupmenu and selected option for console |
| 10:10.43 | ShadowJK | The author of bacmupmenu appears to have incorporated an early version of my charge script, which normally isn't too fussy about the type of charger |
| 10:10.51 | ShadowJK | (and then it spams console with status) |
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| 10:16.22 | brolin_empey | Is there any advantage to using an inverter (correct term? or a rectifier?) to convert the 12V DC accessory power from my car to 120V 1-phase AC to power a Nokia AC to microUSB charger to charge my Nokia N900 instead of using a 12V DC to microUSB charger for direct charging? |
| 10:17.25 | ShadowJK | 12 - 120 - 5 wastes more power |
| 10:19.50 | ShadowJK | Technically, I'd say 12 to 5V is easier to do |
| 10:20.38 | ShadowJK | In the real world, quality of random converters and chargers matters more than the source voltage or technology used to get to 5V |
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| 10:30.57 | brolin_empey | ShadowJK: In the real world, some persons seem to seriously incorrectly assume that my 1998 Volkswagen New Beetle TDI with the loud but distinctive sound of its compression-ignition engine uses gasoline. (fail) |
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| 10:47.13 | brolin_empey | ShadowJK: Anyway, the simple hardware solution is to ensure that I always have a Nokia AC to microUSB charger in my briefcase. Maybe I should even get another such charger to leave in my car so I will still have such a charger even if I do not have my briefcase in my car. |
| 10:48.00 | ShadowJK | I have a nokia car chargers, it's capable of the same current as the AC charger |
| 10:48.19 | ShadowJK | there are lots of half-power car chargers out there though :/ |
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| 10:51.38 | brolin_empey | ShadowJK: I could have prevented a flat battery if I had a Nokia AC to microUSB charger in my briefcase or in my car. |
| 11:01.39 | LinuxCode | get another battery and put it in your wallet |
| 11:01.40 | LinuxCode | ;-p |
| 11:04.28 | brolin_empey | LinuxCode: I actually already have 2 spare Nokia BL-5J batteries I carry in my briefcase but I was too idealistic to resort to using them. :-P |
| 11:04.41 | LinuxCode | hehe |
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| 11:09.52 | brolin_empey | should use bitlbee on his VPS so he can use IM (not IRC) while he is away from his desktop computers but he does not want to switch IM clients Yet Again™. :-/ |
| 11:12.28 | brolin_empey | That is why I wanted to run Finch instead of Pidgin on Windows 7 on my desktop computer. |
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| 16:47.48 | qwazix_ | I didn't know there were operator locked N900's (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1393713&postcount=12) |
| 17:08.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | there were |
| 17:09.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | either operator locked or SIM locked |
| 17:16.02 | qwazix_ | I learn something everyday :-) |
| 17:17.54 | qwazix_ | btw DocScrutinizer05 the touch thing you posted is it a digitizer or a chip which will be connected to the existing digitizer? |
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| 17:31.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | the latter |
| 17:34.19 | qwazix_ | thx |
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| 20:31.11 | deepy-mobile | what package do I need to install to get a kernel that Cleven & friends like? |
| 20:31.38 | deepy-mobile | being able to make a wifi hotspot would be neat too |
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| 21:17.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~kp |
| 21:17.03 | infobot | from memory, kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89823 |
| 21:17.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe |
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