| 00:01.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | even I would use thumb meanwhile. What i'd not pick again is cssu-testing |
| 00:01.27 | freemangordon | O.o |
| 00:01.43 | freemangordon | can't believe his eyes :P |
| 00:01.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | had too many severy issues that slipped QA |
| 00:02.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | severe* |
| 00:02.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: thumb considered 100% evalutaed for stability and regressions, in my book |
| 00:02.48 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: TBH I am not aware of anything broken in -thumb as of now. Besides it forces you to use nokicam |
| 00:03.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's not current state, it's the disasters in the past that would've killed me |
| 00:03.26 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: naah, I remember our "wars" here, back in the days... |
| 00:03.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, it been new and untested back when |
| 00:04.08 | freemangordon | sure :) |
| 00:04.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | meanwhile I guess a hundred users running it day by day since a year or sth |
| 00:04.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | any odds should've shown up meanwhile |
| 00:04.41 | freemangordon | a couple of hundreds afaik |
| 00:05.03 | cehteh | grr my n900 suizided |
| 00:05.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | AAAAAAARGH!!! |
| 00:05.29 | freemangordon | maybe I should ask merlin1991 to do some statistics when I push the next update |
| 00:05.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | how that? |
| 00:05.35 | cehteh | vibration alarm made it jump from the table while plugged in ... usb came loose |
| 00:05.42 | freemangordon | oh |
| 00:05.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | FSCK!!! |
| 00:06.10 | freemangordon | bad luck :( |
| 00:06.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~usbfix |
| 00:06.16 | infobot | it has been said that usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) |
| 00:06.27 | cehteh | i bet jolla employs some voodoo priestess to stick needels in knitted mobiles now |
| 00:06.50 | cehteh | i once did that seems some traces are ripped of |
| 00:06.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, CTO called Neo900 a "nice project" |
| 00:07.10 | cehteh | and thats friggen hard to solder because this metal case neearby |
| 00:07.13 | freemangordon | yeah, how cute :D |
| 00:07.29 | freemangordon | (nice project that is) |
| 00:07.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | cehteh: cut away the metal case |
| 00:07.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | brute force |
| 00:07.53 | cehteh | is there a chance to get spare usb connectors? .. complete resoldering? |
| 00:08.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | easypeasy |
| 00:08.11 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: toldya, you can't make a new whorehouse with the same old whores |
| 00:08.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | for spare connectors |
| 00:08.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds about right |
| 00:08.55 | cehteh | i mean songle piece not 10000 on a reel or $20 for shipping |
| 00:09.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder if they afain use BustZone |
| 00:09.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | cehteh: check ebay |
| 00:09.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | 5 for 3$ |
| 00:09.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | or sth |
| 00:09.47 | merlin1991 | dealextreme 10 for 0.89$ or something |
| 00:10.21 | freemangordon | what about farnell? |
| 00:10.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | or you get the "ORIGINAL NOKIA spare part blablabla" for 4.80 |
| 00:10.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | farnell has min order 30$ or sth |
| 00:11.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually farnell doesn't sell at all on detail |
| 00:11.25 | freemangordon | merlin1991: how hard is it to run some statistics the next time I isuue an update to cssu-thumb? |
| 00:11.39 | Gatta_Negra | i tried to buy a nokia xpress music 5??? touchscreen replacement from a German man from Hmaburg and he cheated and sent me some useless piece of plasic |
| 00:11.55 | Gatta_Negra | all chinese sellers never lied to me and now this |
| 00:12.25 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: easypeasy, you need to tell me beforehand though, because the server has no http access logs atm |
| 00:12.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | touchscreen != LCD display |
| 00:13.00 | freemangordon | merlin1991: sure, I'll pester you in advance |
| 00:14.00 | freemangordon | merlin1991: btw, how's the new update developing? do you need any help? |
| 00:14.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | I eventually should check the apache logs of repo |
| 00:14.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | to evaluate the recent number of active devices out there |
| 00:14.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | window one week |
| 00:15.05 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: iirc merlin1991 has a script that was filtering by IP address |
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| 00:15.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | or one day and then *7 ? |
| 00:15.08 | Gatta_Negra | DocScrutinizer05, touchscreen s the front screen in front of the display. And the ribbon is misplaced so it is useless |
| 00:15.11 | freemangordon | or rather counting |
| 00:15.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | Gatta_Negra: dang |
| 00:15.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | then they got it wrong |
| 00:15.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | german sellers rarely cheat |
| 00:15.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, maybe abroad orders are different |
| 00:15.53 | Gatta_Negra | strange is that description phto shows the correct part |
| 00:16.10 | Gatta_Negra | and what I got looks different and is different |
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| 00:16.31 | freemangordon | Gatta_Negra: hmm, why you had to order it from Germany? |
| 00:16.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | then it's been his fault and you should send back the part and ask for the correct part or money back |
| 00:16.37 | freemangordon | *do you |
| 00:17.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | Gatta_Negra: you're EU, no? |
| 00:17.29 | freemangordon | yep |
| 00:17.30 | Gatta_Negra | freemangordon, it's my mom's phone and she messed the touchscreen so I decided to change it. I ordered from germany (ebay) because a) not ot be cheated by the chinese b) to come here faster |
| 00:17.40 | freemangordon | oh, I see |
| 00:17.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | then you're protected |
| 00:17.54 | Gatta_Negra | yes I opened a case |
| 00:18.13 | freemangordon | Gatta_Negra: afaik, you can't return it in 7 days, without any reason |
| 00:18.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can't lose |
| 00:18.18 | freemangordon | *can |
| 00:18.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | 14 |
| 00:18.29 | freemangordon | ok |
| 00:18.39 | Gatta_Negra | but the phone is useless for until the seller replies and so on |
| 00:18.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 00:18.49 | cehteh | hmpf |
| 00:18.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | annoying |
| 00:19.00 | Gatta_Negra | AND i am neer buying from a german seller agaoin |
| 00:19.10 | Gatta_Negra | never again * |
| 00:19.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, shit happens |
| 00:19.19 | Gatta_Negra | i will show you a pic. just a second |
| 00:19.27 | freemangordon | neo900 lost a potential customer :D |
| 00:19.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;ยด( |
| 00:20.00 | Gatta_Negra | hah |
| 00:21.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL, OK. We got our candidates |
| 00:21.37 | cehteh | http://de.rs-online.com/web/p/micro-usb-steckverbinder/7726768/ << looks ok? |
| 00:21.46 | freemangordon | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.54 | freemangordon | check on neo900.org |
| 00:22.02 | freemangordon | checks even |
| 00:22.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | cehteh: not exactly |
| 00:22.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | this is a almost thru-hole type |
| 00:22.34 | cehteh | ah i see |
| 00:22.40 | freemangordon | hmm, 12 more needed |
| 00:22.43 | cehteh | well can cut that off |
| 00:23.05 | cehteh | the pitch and measures of the connectors are somewhat standardized? |
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| 00:23.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | could probably made to fit, with a file and pliers |
| 00:23.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | yup |
| 00:23.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | somehat |
| 00:23.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks to USB plugs |
| 00:24.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 00:24.13 | cehteh | i am more scared that the traces are damaged .. that means the n900 would be dead or at least hard to repair |
| 00:24.23 | freemangordon | hmm, doesn't it need two wide pins on the sides to be soldered to the board? |
| 00:24.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | harder, yes |
| 00:24.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | I gather you must hold a usb receptacle in your hands now, no? |
| 00:25.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd closely inspect it |
| 00:25.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: yes |
| 00:25.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | wide, not deep |
| 00:25.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | two at the side and another smaller to at the inner end |
| 00:26.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | two* |
| 00:26.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | cehteh: you might want to have a look at bare PCB scans at my server |
| 00:27.02 | cehteh | i'll ask you when i need them |
| 00:27.11 | Gatta_Negra | http://gattanegra.com/pix/photos/by_the_way/n5800x/20131128_002.jpg |
| 00:27.17 | cehteh | cant do anything right now |
| 00:27.41 | freemangordon | AFAIK, usually the places where those pins are soldered, doesn't fall of when the connector falls off |
| 00:29.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | gtlooks like it could work and fit |
| 00:29.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | Gatta_Negra: |
| 00:29.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: depends |
| 00:30.36 | freemangordon | sure it depends, but most of the pictures I've seen has those intact |
| 00:30.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | depends a lot on how the receptacle got removed. If lifted off or sheared off |
| 00:31.46 | Gatta_Negra | hm? |
| 00:32.20 | freemangordon | Gatta_Negra: seems like that one might do the job. at least from the picture you've posted |
| 00:32.44 | Gatta_Negra | i stopped posting |
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| 00:32.55 | Gatta_Negra | cause you were talking important stuff |
| 00:32.59 | Gatta_Negra | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.20 | Gatta_Negra | http://gattanegra.com/pix/photos/by_the_way/n5800x/20131128_004.jpg |
| 00:33.52 | Gatta_Negra | http://gattanegra.com/pix/photos/by_the_way/n5800x/20131128_005.jpg |
| 00:34.31 | Gatta_Negra | http://gattanegra.com/pix/photos/by_the_way/n5800x/20131128_008.jpg |
| 00:34.34 | Gatta_Negra | that wa the last one |
| 00:35.04 | Gatta_Negra | so the idea is that metal frame goes almost around the touchscreen. and ribbon goes under |
| 00:35.08 | freemangordon | hmm, it still looks to me that should be ok. the cable seems thin enough to go under the frame |
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| 00:35.44 | freemangordon | but really can't judge from the pictures only |
| 00:35.51 | Gatta_Negra | freemangordon, whoa, my friend, I am not an engineer, but I am taught not to change something's design to make it fit |
| 00:36.23 | Gatta_Negra | it can fit only and only if I leafe it above . And the plastic case is so tight it will ruin it |
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| 00:37.24 | Gatta_Negra | I tried. believe me. I am scared of waiting them change the part or return money, but it would be a waste if I tried assembling the phone this way |
| 00:37.35 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 00:38.08 | cehteh | http://de.rs-online.com/web/p/micro-usb-steckverbinder/7025475/ http://de.rs-online.com/web/p/micro-usb-steckverbinder/6850965/ http://de.rs-online.com/web/p/micro-usb-steckverbinder/6694645/ http://de.rs-online.com/web/p/micro-usb-steckverbinder/0435706/ |
| 00:38.11 | cehteh | ... choices choices |
| 00:38.39 | freemangordon | anyway: |
| 00:38.51 | freemangordon | thinks it is time to have some sleep |
| 00:39.02 | freemangordon | night guys and gals |
| 00:39.11 | Gatta_Negra | night |
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| 02:28.57 | winocm | hi. |
| 02:29.26 | winocm | anyone have an N900 with u-boot in R&D mode and willing to test something for me? :) |
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| 02:30.45 | mashina | darwin magic? |
| 02:31.25 | winocm | yeah. |
| 02:31.57 | mashina | i'm gonna watch patiently |
| 02:32.06 | mashina | i don't want to lose my baby to science |
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| 02:32.12 | winocm | hahahaha |
| 02:33.21 | mashina | and if someone ports the iOS UI I will eat my eats |
| 02:33.25 | mashina | *eat my hats |
| 02:33.42 | winocm | multiple hats? |
| 02:33.44 | mashina | i got a rack full and I'm hungry |
| 02:34.02 | mashina | anyways guten nacht maemokinder |
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| 03:27.20 | bef0rd | winocm: i'm about to install uboot, not R&D mode though |
| 03:29.31 | Hurrian | bef0rd: what you're about to see will not require flashing keyboard lights and the NIT logo in the middle of NOLO at startup though :P |
| 03:40.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? |
| 03:41.00 | winocm | well, R&D mode shouldn't be required anymore |
| 03:41.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | R&D mode isn't required for anything |
| 03:41.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | except for R&D ;-P |
| 03:41.46 | winocm | which is what i do :) |
| 03:41.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhm |
| 03:42.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | what exactly is it what you do, that needs R&D mode? |
| 03:42.33 | winocm | used to not feed the wdt, now i do that |
| 03:42.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 03:42.42 | winocm | hopefully, qemu doesn't emulate the wdt |
| 03:42.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah |
| 03:43.42 | winocm | http://goput.it/ij38.png this is what i'm doing ;P |
| 03:45.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm |
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| 03:45.53 | winocm | i'm looking for decent test hardware, for a reasonable price and with reasonable shipping. |
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| 09:20.10 | alexseif | Hello all :) I'm Alex |
| 09:20.37 | alexseif | I was wondering if someone can help me setup erminig on my N900 |
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| 15:34.21 | alexseif | Hello all :) I'm Alex |
| 15:34.31 | alexseif | I was wondering if someone can help me setup erminig on my N900? |
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| 15:37.57 | GattaNegra | hmm |
| 15:38.08 | GattaNegra | I wander what you people think on this; |
| 15:38.15 | GattaNegra | I kinda do not like the ovi store pag |
| 15:38.29 | GattaNegra | page*. Even I could make it look prettier |
| 15:38.50 | GattaNegra | Nokia is a big big company, how they let that thing go online at all? |
| 15:39.10 | GattaNegra | wonder*. |
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| 16:17.08 | grr | moin |
| 16:17.37 | Win7Mac | grrr... ;) |
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| 16:18.48 | Guest271 | ooops |
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| 16:19.20 | grr | whatever |
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| 16:24.00 | GattaNegra | igipuuu |
| 16:24.03 | GattaNegra | :D |
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| 22:38.18 | Isotope | N810 app on n900? Compatible? |
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