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| 04:12.38 | qwerty123 | Hi . What should be ideal cpu usage of pulseaudio when playing media player? Mine is about 30. |
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| 04:20.50 | brolin_empey | Is Psi under pressure? ;-) |
| 04:23.08 | Psi | no, im not Quite relaxed really |
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| 07:19.02 | reenignEesreveR | what is the latest version of flasher? 3.5 or 3.12? |
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| 07:45.21 | psycho_oreos | 3.5. 3.12 is not for fremantle. |
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| 10:34.18 | rd1381 | hi can somebody help me with network wireless speed in n900? |
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| 10:53.50 | vi__ | what is wrong withyour wireless speed? |
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| 11:12.34 | rd1381 | vi__ : after connecting it stop downloading the apps |
| 11:12.59 | rd1381 | it gets like 2 kb of app then gets stuck |
| 11:13.26 | rd1381 | funny thing is at first its ok but after a while it gets stuck |
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| 11:56.16 | rd1381 | any help? |
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| 12:08.05 | reenignEesreveR | when I try to install kernel-power, I start getting guru meditation issues. I flash back the kernel and it starts working. Maybe a multiboot issue. How do get to install kernel power ??? |
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| 12:13.19 | sixwheeledbeast | ~multiboot |
| 12:13.19 | infobot | methinks multiboot is http://maemo.org/packages/view/multiboot/ |
| 12:14.33 | sixwheeledbeast | mhm... no warning that multiboot tears the eMMC to bits... |
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| 12:23.53 | reenignEesreveR | ? |
| 12:24.15 | reenignEesreveR | but its the multiboot that isn't able to load the kernel power apparently :( |
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| 12:24.48 | vi__ | use uboot. |
| 12:25.48 | Apic | Yeah, multiboot is broken by Design. |
| 12:26.04 | Apic | Flashes the Kernel on _every_ Boot... |
| 12:26.11 | vi__ | not really. It was a good workaround at the time. |
| 12:28.15 | rd1381 | could it be that i have hw problems so my wireless downloads gets stuck? |
| 12:31.38 | sixwheeledbeast | IIRC multiboot support for KP has been dropped. |
| 12:33.34 | sixwheeledbeast | rd1381: can you browse the web ok? how are you testing your "speed". |
| 12:36.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | Jeremiah answered \o/ |
| 12:36.52 | rd1381 | the web browsing is buggy as well |
| 12:36.56 | rd1381 | i dont mean slow |
| 12:37.25 | rd1381 | i mean its like package drop is high |
| 12:37.53 | rd1381 | even connecting to google is not even 50/50 its like 20/80 |
| 12:47.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm |
| 12:47.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like fux0red WLAN |
| 12:48.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | check AP and PSM setting |
| 12:48.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | duh, he left |
| 12:48.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang |
| 12:48.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | drive by asker |
| 12:49.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | reenignEesreveR: |
| 12:49.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~maemo-multiboot |
| 12:49.28 | infobot | maemo-multiboot is, like, deprecated, and a horrible hack. PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED |
| 12:50.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: literal multiboot |
| 12:50.24 | infobot | "#maemo multiboot" is "http://maemo.org/packages/view/multiboot/" |
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| 12:51.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: #maemo multiboot is also **DEPRECATED*, see ~maemo-multiboot |
| 12:51.03 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 12:53.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: literal multiboot |
| 12:53.07 | infobot | "#maemo multiboot" is "http://maemo.org/packages/view/multiboot/, or **DEPRECATED*, see ~maemo-multiboot" |
| 12:53.46 | reenignEesreveR | sorry, was away |
| 12:54.17 | reenignEesreveR | thanks. uboot it is then? |
| 12:54.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/multiboot/ \o/ |
| 12:54.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | sometimes it feels good to be admin |
| 12:55.06 | reenignEesreveR | how do i know if CSSU is installed or not? |
| 12:56.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | system settings |
| 12:56.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | if it has "about CSSU" then... guess what |
| 12:58.04 | reenignEesreveR | right. so it says Version: 21.2011.38-1Smaemo6.1 |
| 12:58.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | looks OK |
| 12:58.13 | reenignEesreveR | how do i update to next stable one? |
| 12:58.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | Latest version: Testing(2013-10-27): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo8.3; Stable(2013-06-18): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo6.1 |
| 12:59.04 | reenignEesreveR | but how do i install it? I tried the installer script at the page, it opened the HAM but didn't do any updates |
| 12:59.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | HUH? |
| 12:59.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | install what? |
| 12:59.49 | reenignEesreveR | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
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| 12:59.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | read again! |
| 13:00.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | Latest version: Testing(2013-10-27): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo8.3; Stable(2013-06-18): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo6.1 |
| 13:00.25 | reenignEesreveR | aaaaaaaah. ..... oh ok |
| 13:00.34 | reenignEesreveR | i was like 2013 != 2011 |
| 13:00.44 | Apic | ;-) |
| 13:00.51 | reenignEesreveR | strange name they've got! thanks a lot :) |
| 13:01.02 | reenignEesreveR | so the only thing i need to do now is install kernel-power |
| 13:01.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | this is the release of maemo stock it's based on |
| 13:01.50 | reenignEesreveR | uboot's desccription says its risky |
| 13:01.56 | reenignEesreveR | any other alternative? |
| 13:01.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably even last MAJOR release, for the 21.2011 |
| 13:02.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, uBoot is da thing to go |
| 13:02.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | compared to multiboot it#s safe as milk |
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| 13:03.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you don't have thumb or other strange kernels installed already, then uBoot is absolutely safe |
| 13:04.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | uBoot comes with default stock kernel, so no risk at all |
| 13:05.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | if shit hits the fan, you simply flash the kernel you had before you installed uBoot (though there's little likelihood you have to, when you're using stock kernel before you install uBoot) |
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| 13:06.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | but when you nstalled multiboot before, then VERY LIKELY you will end up with a system that's terribly broken and you'll need a complete reflash |
| 13:06.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~maemo-multiboot |
| 13:06.36 | infobot | somebody said maemo-multiboot was deprecated, and a horrible hack. PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED |
| 13:07.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | only chance: *completely* roll back *all* changes multiboot did to your system, *before* you install uBoot |
| 13:08.18 | reenignEesreveR | "apt-get remove multiboot" would be sufficient? |
| 13:08.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | uninstalling multiboot doesn't suffice since it doesn't uninstall cleanly, I heard |
| 13:08.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ^^^ |
| 13:08.40 | reenignEesreveR | whats the easiest way to ensure? |
| 13:08.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | reflash |
| 13:08.56 | reenignEesreveR | already done that ... multiboot was still there |
| 13:08.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly |
| 13:09.03 | reenignEesreveR | errr.... no wait |
| 13:09.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | hardly |
| 13:09.16 | reenignEesreveR | i only reflashed the kernel |
| 13:09.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah |
| 13:09.25 | reenignEesreveR | so technically i didn't reflash to get rid of multiboot |
| 13:09.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | multiboot fscks up your init scripts and whatnot else |
| 13:10.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | reflash COMBINED |
| 13:13.13 | reenignEesreveR | whats the easiest way to reflash and restore my data? |
| 13:19.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | make a backup with stock (hildon) backup app, flash COMBINED (*not* VANILLA), re-install your apps list using the in backup app's restore function |
| 13:20.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you got "manually" installed apps/programs (apt-get install or even dpkg) then you need to take care of those manualy after reflash, since odds are Hildon backup doesn't know about them |
| 13:20.39 | reenignEesreveR | life is too short to make backups ... i tried installing uboot and it worked :P |
| 13:21.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can check what's in your backup: a) it's a set of tarballs, and b) you can invoke backup restore and it will present you a list of apps it will restore |
| 13:21.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, until you touch multiboot |
| 13:22.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | first activity done by multiboot zombie will nuke your system now |
| 13:22.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | one way or the other |
| 13:23.22 | reenignEesreveR | right |
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| 14:15.01 | reenignEesreveR | is there a python library installer for maemo? pip or setuptools? |
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| 14:25.28 | dack | hey.. I discovered something great, but don't really want to sign up for an account on maemo.org just for one post. I was hoping someone here could spread the word... |
| 14:26.07 | dack | essentially, the mail client is incredibly slow for gmail, but I figured out how to fix it! |
| 14:26.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Neo900/media/pic+vid/batswap-quick-procedure.mp4 |
| 14:26.45 | dack | there's a setting in gmail to limit the number of emails in an IMAP folder to 1000 ( there's other values too) |
| 14:27.26 | dack | so, now my email is much much more responsive and an email loads up in seconds where before it was literally minutes |
| 14:27.47 | dack | would someone please post that on the forums for other people to hear? |
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| 14:35.39 | vi__ | where is this setting? |
| 14:36.05 | vi__ | Also, can anyone name a decent alternative to gmail on account of the fact that google are really starting to suck farts as of late. |
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| 14:41.15 | wnd | vi__, gmail -> gear icon at top left -> settings -> forwarding and pop/imap -> imap access -> folder size limits |
| 14:41.31 | wnd | top right, that is |
| 14:41.43 | wnd | (the other left) |
| 14:45.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | the left left over after left left |
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| 15:03.01 | reenignEesreveR | which theme do you personally prefer on n900? |
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| 15:07.33 | wnd | Nokia Nseries, with Character (image set) as background image. yes I know I'm boring. |
| 15:08.46 | reenignEesreveR | do themes affect responsiveness of device? |
| 15:13.45 | wnd | I'm not sure, but as n900 uses gtk, I suppose a less/more demanding theme could be created (namely by using an engine faster/slower than sapwood |
| 15:15.04 | wnd | also the theme style can be more/less complex, and use images of different dimensions. I /guess/ gtk encodes the images only once and keeps the uncompressed data in memory. |
| 15:15.32 | wnd | erm, decodes |
| 15:15.58 | wnd | seems that I have a day of opposites |
| 15:21.31 | reenignEesreveR | right |
| 15:21.57 | reenignEesreveR | btw the font sizes are small for me ... can i make font sizes a bit larger? esp. of the browser? |
| 15:23.41 | wnd | sorry, I can't remember and I have to be on my way now |
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| 15:32.00 | sixwheeledbeast | reenignEesreveR: for version info see ~getversion |
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| 18:40.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | moin Woody14619 |
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| 19:02.02 | ShadowJK | wnd; browser - options - adjust view - text size |
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| 19:48.09 | sixwheeledbeast | ~pkg |
| 19:48.09 | infobot | pkg is probably http://maemo.org/packages/ |
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| 20:18.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi ShadowJK |
| 20:18.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | somebody suggested to rather use a second uSD tray instead of eMMC. What's your atke? |
| 20:18.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | take* |
| 20:24.14 | NeutrinoPower | hi, I can't use the mass-storage mode because the storage is in use but fuser /home/user/MyDocs/ gives nothing but "umount: can't umount /home/user/MyDocs: Device or resource busy" |
| 20:26.52 | sono | emmc would be more resilient and reliable, probably cheaper too? |
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| 20:39.17 | sixwheeledbeast | extra uSD tray would mean easy replacement of flash memory. Would it reduce cost of device? |
| 20:41.46 | StyXman | I think the board will become outdated (for some values of that) before the eMMC fails or becomes too small |
| 20:42.27 | sono | whereas uSD will fail due to lack of wear levelling if you don't use a flash filesystem, and die from dust and shock before that |
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| 20:43.28 | sono | then again, i am only a software guy. what do i know? |
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| 20:46.46 | sono | oh hey, it appears that uSD does usually have integrated wear levelling after all. |
| 20:47.02 | sono | up to the card manufacturer, aparrently |
| 20:49.16 | SpeedEvil | sono: No. |
| 20:49.29 | SpeedEvil | sono: You can't make a uSD or indeed a SD without wear leveling. |
| 20:49.58 | SpeedEvil | As it pretty much means your card will start out witl large amounts of errors, and gain more rapidly during life. |
| 20:51.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | first thing to notice: eMMC afaik has 8 bit interface, uSD has 4 bit |
| 20:51.28 | sixwheeledbeast | It will also make it easier to transfer everything to new HW if required. I think it's a great idea, if there are no side effects. |
| 20:54.17 | NeutrinoPower | when the display turn off the vnc-session is black too... :-( |
| 20:54.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL, sure |
| 20:55.34 | sono | SpeedEvil: right, how silly of me. |
| 20:56.14 | sono | wouldn't eMMC connect to some sort of GPMC, and uSD to some sort of SPI-like interface? |
| 20:56.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | basically yes |
| 20:57.00 | sono | right |
| 20:57.10 | sono | at least something i learned from our EE guys |
| 20:57.14 | SpeedEvil | I thought eMMC was basically MMC |
| 20:57.20 | SpeedEvil | Which is pretty similar to SD |
| 20:57.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm yes, kinda, but wider bus |
| 20:57.37 | SpeedEvil | MMC to make it 8 ... |
| 20:57.55 | SpeedEvil | Though SDXC? is also8 bit. (or can be) |
| 20:58.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | no SDXC on OMAP3 |
| 21:01.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | no idea how they cram 8 bit on 9 pads |
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| 21:02.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, 8 pads |
| 21:02.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | -gnd -VDD = 6 |
| 21:04.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | eMMC has 8 data-I/O, clk, CMD, and of course power supply |
| 21:05.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess it must be faster than uSD |
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