| 00:01.57 | sledges | operation 'frozen steak' didn't work, oh well, good night :) |
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| 00:16.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | freezing doesn't help for sure |
| 00:18.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | 250°C pot/pan with sand, heat that for 1h+ till it's absolutely equal temperature everywhere. Then place the PCB into the sand for ~5min, maybe 10, then take out of the oven and let cool it in the sand for a few minutes, then place on a newspaper and cover with another newspaper |
| 00:32.15 | nox- | ..and then try to get rid of the smell in the oven? :) |
| 00:37.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I don't use oven for such jobs |
| 00:37.27 | nox- | hehe |
| 00:37.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | this is what I've read in a german computer mag special issue about hw hacks |
| 00:38.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd use a steel box and my reflow hot air tool |
| 00:39.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | or even just the reflow tool to specifically heat up the chips, but you need to pre-heat the PC for that to work |
| 00:39.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | PCB* |
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| 00:56.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ideally you find a electronics lab shop that can reflow the thing for you, shouldn't cost more than 1h of craftsmanship fees |
| 00:56.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | which otoh is maybe already too much in relation to the value of the used HTC |
| 01:05.13 | Gh0sty | nothing like a pizza with pcb and solder taste :p |
| 01:08.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah |
| 01:08.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | add a bit of scorched newspaper |
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| 01:09.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | when I been 7 years old, I found out that old bread rolls could get 'recycled' when you wrap them into wet paper before placing them in the oven. I used newspaper which gave a funny tase |
| 01:10.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | taste even |
| 01:10.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | been quite exciting since I didn't know if the paper might catch fire in the oven |
| 01:11.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | (now I'm sure it couldn't, but back when I been 7 y o...) |
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| 01:12.17 | Gh0sty | lol |
| 01:12.47 | Gh0sty | well dont know about the oven |
| 01:13.04 | Gh0sty | but my uncle who was like a former bakery helper |
| 01:13.26 | Gh0sty | swore that the best way to keep stuff crunchy when put in the freezer or fridge |
| 01:13.31 | Gh0sty | is wrap in newspaper |
| 01:14.02 | Gh0sty | no idea why though :) |
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| 03:16.10 | rajeshindia | hello |
| 03:16.14 | rajeshindia | good morning |
| 03:16.20 | rajeshindia | got problem with yappari |
| 03:17.10 | rajeshindia | im not able to get log file from filebox. how can i get it from x terminal? not connecting. cant resolve DNS error. DNS problem. |
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| 03:46.53 | rajeshkonni | yappari help |
| 03:46.54 | rajeshkonni | please |
| 03:47.04 | rajeshkonni | anyone here? |
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| 03:50.51 | rajeshkonni | any help |
| 03:52.13 | SpeedEvil | With? |
| 03:52.22 | SpeedEvil | Ah - sorry - no idea. |
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| 03:53.00 | rajeshkonni | yappari |
| 03:53.07 | rajeshkonni | whatsapp......problem |
| 03:53.22 | rajeshkonni | im not able to get log file from filebox. how can i get it from x terminal? not connecting. cant resolve DNS error. DNS problem. any idea? |
| 04:02.56 | robbiethe1st | Uh |
| 04:03.27 | robbiethe1st | dns issues? try pinging your site from the terminal - ping site.com |
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| 05:20.36 | rajeshkonni | need help for whatsapp |
| 05:21.00 | rajeshkonni | im not able to get log file from filebox. how can i get it from x terminal? not connecting. cant resolve DNS error. DNS problem. any idea? |
| 05:54.23 | rajeshkonni | anyone? |
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| 15:56.47 | drathir | hi |
| 15:56.48 | drathir | any trusted and reccomended phone repair service in poland... ? |
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| 16:09.02 | arcean | drathir: n900 or n9? |
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| 16:29.02 | drathir | arcean: n900 |
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| 16:36.55 | drathir | in my last chance i ask in nokia repair service, but first better to ask about trusted one repair services, because dont want go to first better to crash more than is now... |
| 16:37.45 | arcean | drathir: register and send PM to this guy http://meegoforum.pl/member55.html |
| 16:38.09 | drathir | arcean: ok thanks a lot... |
| 16:38.59 | arcean | he works in Nokia service in Krakow |
| 16:42.36 | drathir | arcean: O.o thats great... Amazing that nokia service ppl also join community forums and help users thats is great... |
| 16:43.26 | arcean | yeah. He's recovered a lot of N900 with broken/missing USB |
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| 16:47.32 | drathir | mine that what i can see should be easy to repair only new fresh port is needed but sadly dont have profesional equipment to do this by myself, and buy all staff to fix is little weak idea... |
| 16:50.48 | drathir | someone who do that more often have profesional eq and i suppose better skils make all look after fix much prettier than if i will try to repair first time... |
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| 17:12.39 | deepy | I find that my phone tends to take a lot of breathing pauses and the browser is incredibly slow (4+ seconds to load google, even on wifi). Am I doing something wrong or is there something I can check? |
| 17:13.19 | Apic | I use Fennec as Browser Replacement |
| 17:14.03 | Apic | You could check 'top' for CPU-Hogs... my N900 does not seem to take "Breathing Pauses" |
| 17:16.06 | deepy | oops, just missed my bus stop |
| 17:16.22 | Apic | Shift happens. ;-) |
| 17:18.40 | deepy | oh, I do not have CSSU |
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| 17:26.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | HAPPY 4th BIRTHDAY, dear N900 |
| 17:26.30 | Apic | \o/ |
| 17:26.42 | sono | really? |
| 17:26.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N900 |
| 17:27.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | Release date11 November 2009 |
| 17:27.19 | NIN101 | 4 years, still the best :-) |
| 17:27.21 | anYc | hugs his n900 |
| 17:27.30 | sono | yippie |
| 17:28.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | <3 |
| 17:28.44 | Apic | hugs his one too. |
| 17:29.29 | mashina_ | hugs his |
| 17:33.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | deepy: check size of eventlogger files: ls -l ~user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el* |
| 17:35.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | deepy: anything >1MB is really way too much, and eats your RAM causing everything else getting slow due to excessive swapping |
| 17:40.19 | brolin_empey | NIN101: The Nokia N900 does not support the UMTS bands used by Telus Mobility, Bell Mobility, and all of both of their MVNOs in Canada. |
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| 17:41.28 | brolin_empey | meant the MVNOs of both Telus Mobility and Bell Mobility. |
| 17:42.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: hmm |
| 17:43.35 | brolin_empey | The Nokia N9 does support these UMTS bands, though. |
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| 17:43.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, what does that mean to us? |
| 17:45.09 | drathir | DocScrutinizer05: yea gz |
| 17:45.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | ? |
| 17:45.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wtf gz |
| 17:46.36 | drathir | i think n900 is the best universal phone that was made in history... |
| 17:47.55 | Apic | 2 |
| 17:48.15 | drathir | DocScrutinizer05: mean me too gratz for 4 years of n900... |
| 17:50.17 | brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: It means that I cannot recommend the Nokia N900 to many persons in Canada unless they are willing to switch to a different cellular service provider. |
| 17:50.22 | drathir | infobot: learn that gz mean congratulation |
| 17:50.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | Neo900 is going to replace N900 on "the best universal phone" |
| 17:50.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 17:50.54 | Herbstfreud | Hope so |
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| 17:51.23 | drathir | DocScrutinizer05: yea goin to populate on twitter little more... |
| 17:51.52 | drathir | because neo900 looks interesting... |
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| 17:52.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, for N900 fans it should, yeah |
| 17:52.53 | Herbstfreud | For others... ... ... nevermind. |
| 17:53.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | we don't need those "y U don't capacitive touch?" |
| 17:53.28 | drathir | brolin_empey: that is issue a litte mord with mobile provider to not cross cell frequencies than n900... |
| 17:54.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: please provide exact data on bands available in Canada so we can take care to pick/suggest right modem for Neo900 owners |
| 17:55.19 | drathir | DocScrutinizer05: for me screen is great i can always do something with my nails when my fingers are not so clean... |
| 17:55.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 17:56.17 | brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: AFAIK, the Nokia N900 does not support HSPA in Canada either, at least not with Fido Mobile. AFAIK, I can use only EDGE or lower (slower). |
| 17:57.04 | drathir | the screens that i cant do that for me really bad one... |
| 17:58.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: that doesn't help much to pick the right bands for the Neo900 modem |
| 17:59.06 | drathir | but yes modern gsm/umts/lte reciver with less power usage will be great... |
| 18:00.47 | drathir | because gsm data on-line connection is deadly for battery... |
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| 18:03.43 | brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: I wish I could have a Nokia N900 or a Neo900 with the integrated slide-out hardware/physical keyboard of the Nokia C6-00, which uses Symbian OS crapware. |
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| 18:03.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually UMTS is deadly |
| 18:04.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: sorry, we won't support that |
| 18:06.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | I also wish we could build Neo900 into a N950 case with better keycaps that are not as flat as the original ones, plus a touchscreen that actually works with stylus and fingernails. |
| 18:06.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | but that's jsut dreaming |
| 18:06.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | just* |
| 18:07.31 | Apic | *nod* |
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| 18:09.16 | Herbstfreud | :) |
| 18:10.48 | Herbstfreud | Never seen a N950 in real life. |
| 18:10.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | so let's focus on what we actually *can* do - e.g. find a modem module that works just great for all you guys over the pond in the Americas |
| 18:11.07 | Herbstfreud | I think the existence of it is a myth. |
| 18:11.09 | Herbstfreud | ;) |
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| 18:11.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | wipes off the dust from his N950 |
| 18:11.56 | Herbstfreud | :-| |
| 18:11.58 | deepy | how's the keyboard compared to the N900? |
| 18:12.03 | Herbstfreud | What... |
| 18:12.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | worse |
| 18:12.54 | Apic | B-( |
| 18:13.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | terribly poor ergonimics, due to the completely flat keycaps |
| 18:13.24 | brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: I wish the Nokia N950 had been publicly released because I want a Nokia N950 but not a Nokia N9. I cannot stand trying to use a virtual/software keyboard on a capacitive touch screen. |
| 18:13.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | almost impossible to type blindly |
| 18:14.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: it seems like 10% of N950 suffer from display defects after a few months, due to the slider mech |
| 18:16.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | allegedly carriers rejected the N950 due to poor build quality in kbd or slider mech |
| 18:16.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least street gossip has that rumour |
| 18:16.53 | wmarone | that was the rumor years ago |
| 18:17.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 18:19.06 | Herbstfreud | So in summary... The N900 case is more robust. |
| 18:19.34 | Apic | \o/ |
| 18:19.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | we seen "lots" of reports about black stipes in display, where the hinge pushes back of LCD |
| 18:20.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | Herbstfreud: way more, yes |
| 18:20.51 | brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: s/stipes/stripes/ ? |
| 18:20.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | also opening the "slide" in N950 is actually an annoyance that makes your finger hurt and can get done only using both your hands |
| 18:20.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 18:21.34 | Herbstfreud | And it is really robust. I have two N900, the backup one looks like a T-34 rolled over it - but it still works. ;) |
| 18:21.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe |
| 18:22.14 | Herbstfreud | Don't know what the last owner did with it... |
| 18:22.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm pretty sure N950 can't pass drop tests |
| 18:23.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | particularly when opened - which is unfortunate since you drop it on a 50% probability when trying to open it one-handed |
| 18:23.21 | Herbstfreud | Oh, that's a pity... I always thougkt about the N950 as a better N900. But I was never allowed to affirm this. ;) |
| 18:23.42 | Herbstfreud | s/thougkt/thought |
| 18:25.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | you need like 500g force to make the display snap up and open, and then that force suddenly reduces and display snaps up and whole device hops out of your palm and straight on the floor, opened |
| 18:25.06 | brolin_empey | Herbstfreud: I am guessing that a T-34 is not a type of Torx screw? |
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| 18:25.22 | sixwheeledbeast | I prefer the flat sliding mechanism of the N900 myself. |
| 18:25.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess it's a tank |
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| 18:26.14 | Herbstfreud | brolin_empey: No, not really... ;) |
| 18:26.48 | Herbstfreud | It's like a Zenit/Zorki... But for shooting, not for shooting. ;) |
| 18:27.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | .oO(???) |
| 18:27.49 | Herbstfreud | Hm, offtopic. The N900 looks really really bad. ;) |
| 18:28.31 | brolin_empey | Herbstfreud: T43 may be a model of ThinkPad too. |
| 18:29.06 | Herbstfreud | brolin_empey: Yes, T43. Not T-34. |
| 18:29.25 | Herbstfreud | Had a T43 one year ago, it was e really nice machine. |
| 18:30.11 | brolin_empey | Herbstfreud: Yes, I noticed that I seem to be dyslexic this morning. ;-) |
| 18:30.28 | Herbstfreud | AND there is a chinese constructor building a new mainboard for the T4x series - for modern hardware. :) |
| 18:31.06 | brolin_empey | meant T34 , not T43 . |
| 18:32.06 | Herbstfreud | A Thinkpad T34 never existed. |
| 18:33.04 | Herbstfreud | But that's really offtopic. ^^ |
| 18:33.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki t-34 |
| 18:34.19 | Apic | Unicode-Failure |
| 18:35.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, legit discrimination of french gibberish ;-P |
| 18:35.59 | Herbstfreud | lol |
| 18:37.04 | Herbstfreud | So now you can compare with the other soviet tank-like shooting machine: http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Zenit_11 |
| 18:37.32 | Herbstfreud | Quite similar, I think. I love this one. ;) |
| 18:38.12 | brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: No Français pour vous? |
| 18:44.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | Je n'aime pas parler francais |
| 18:45.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | Et je ne comprends bien |
| 18:45.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | and it gives me that weird feeling in my guts |
| 18:47.06 | brolin_empey | Herbstfreud: Writing of shooting: If (a source port of?) Quake III: Arena can run on the Nokia N900, maybe (a source port of?) Doom 3 can run on the Nokia N900 too? |
| 18:47.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | Herbstfreud: AAAH! :-D |
| 18:49.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | is the "Lomo" in "belomo" coincidence or actually something expected? |
| 18:49.18 | drathir | ram needed... |
| 18:49.26 | Herbstfreud | brolin_empey: I have no idea, never played any game on my mobile devices... But Q3A (1999) and Doom 3 (2004) are not really comparable, aren't they? |
| 18:50.28 | Herbstfreud | DocScrutinizer05: Bolomo and Lomo are different things. |
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| 18:50.47 | drathir | when gpu will asist with graphics why not but ram i think is the weakest thing... |
| 18:50.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | just wondered if it maybe has a meaning |
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| 18:53.04 | Herbstfreud | I don't suppose the soviets could imagine what kind of hype the Lomo LC-A is causing today. |
| 18:53.17 | Herbstfreud | Actually it's crap. ;) |
| 18:54.39 | Herbstfreud | But the Zenits from KMZ are shooting and shooting and shooting and shooting... And aeons are passing... And the camera still works. ;) |
| 18:54.44 | BCMM | brolin_empey: cant' tell if that's a joke, but quake3 and doom3 have radically different system requirements |
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| 18:55.18 | BCMM | i remember being able to play quake3 on full everything on hardware that couldn't play doom3 at greater-than-unity FPS |
| 18:56.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.allgame.com/game.php?id=18813&tab=sysreqs http://www.allgame.com/game.php?id=38989&tab=sysreqs |
| 18:57.17 | BCMM | DocScrutinizer05: q3 will run on a 233MHz MMX??? wow |
| 19:00.31 | Herbstfreud | No... Not comparable. |
| 19:05.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, comparable liek... a trike and a T-34 ;-P |
| 19:05.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | like* |
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| 19:35.42 | kerio | doom 3 is the same engine as quake 4 iirc |
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| 19:51.48 | brolin_empey | BCMM: I was serious. |
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| 19:59.46 | brolin_empey | kerio: Yes, Doom 3 and Quake 4 both use the id Tech 4 engine. The Doom 3 source code was publicly released under the terms of the GNU GPL in 2011-11 but, AFAIK, the Quake 4 source code has not been publicly released. Has it? |
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| 23:14.36 | Pali | datasheet for isp1704a: http://pdf.datasheetz.com/NXP/ISP1704A_1/ISP1704A_1.pdf |
| 23:14.45 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05 ^^^ |
| 23:20.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, known |
| 23:20.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks anyway |
| 23:21.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | though, wait, do we have 1704a or 1707? |
| 23:21.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | both are almost identical and we have the hw of one and the datasheet of the other |
| 23:24.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | -rw-r--r-- 2 jr users 1961249 20. Mai 2010 /home/jr/halley2/home/jr/Documents/N900/docs/hw/ISP1704A-datasheet.pdf |
| 23:24.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | so I guess we have 1707 |
| 23:29.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | yup, 1707A |
| 23:32.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | /home/jr/halley2/home/jr/Documents/N900/n900/Gallery-N900-exploded/n900_11.jpeg gives it away easily |
| 23:35.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | pali: in hidden/docs/ you find a newer version of same paper |
| 23:36.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | Rev.03 - 15 Dec 2009 |
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