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| 02:11.11 | Gear_ | hi |
| 02:11.16 | Gear_ | OMweather is glitching out |
| 02:11.26 | Gear_ | I live in australia, and it's showing me weather for tomorrow |
| 02:11.38 | Gear_ | doesn't matter what I change |
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| 07:16.07 | jon_y | mfw Nokia stores not stocking Nokia BL-5Js |
| 07:16.21 | jon_y | had none :( |
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| 07:38.33 | sixwheeledbeast^ | why would they need to stock batteries any more? People tend to replace there phone within 24 months. It therefore seems most phone batteries are sealed in now. |
| 07:39.06 | jon_y | sixwheeledbeast^: I don't know, I expect Nokia stores to have Nokia products |
| 07:39.12 | jon_y | they still sell 3310s |
| 07:39.32 | jon_y | oh, they sell Samsung phones too :) |
| 07:39.50 | jon_y | except you can't miss the giant NOKIA banner on top |
| 07:40.14 | sixwheeledbeast^ | I expect Nokia stores to stock Windoze products only from now on. |
| 07:41.50 | sixwheeledbeast^ | /me is happy with his Polarcell anyway. |
| 07:43.09 | jon_y | I think my current battery is the old 1200mAh model |
| 07:43.15 | jon_y | got it in 2010 |
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| 09:42.24 | nokiabot | he he he |
| 09:45.05 | nokiabot | slaps DocScrutinizer05 around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:45.33 | nokiabot | oh no |
| 09:46.47 | nokiabot | is any one here |
| 09:48.09 | freemangordon | who do you need? |
| 09:48.22 | freemangordon | and what for? |
| 09:48.42 | nokiabot | humm |
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| 09:49.03 | nokiabot | i thought nobody is here |
| 09:49.30 | nokiabot | ho do i know that people are online |
| 09:49.45 | freemangordon | no way |
| 09:49.58 | nokiabot | what ??? |
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| 09:52.03 | nokiabot | i found a option (names) that has many names so are they all online ? |
| 09:52.53 | nokiabot | 266 people in this channel ... Omg |
| 09:55.27 | nokiabot | ?? |
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| 10:13.00 | wnd | there may be 266 on the channel, but it doesn't mean that they |
| 10:13.07 | wnd | that they're online in person |
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| 10:42.51 | sixwheeledbeast^ | nokiabot: you may not get an instant reply from people |
| 10:43.48 | sixwheeledbeast^ | they can't be here all the time, nothing would get done. :) |
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| 10:49.22 | sixwheeledbeast^ | If you address/highlight a person you may get an away auto-message. |
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| 11:33.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | eeew yeah those annoying auto-away messages. Most users never again deactivate them, which makes queries a real PITA |
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| 13:25.07 | zamn900 | hey I did not write the right pin code for the third time... cool seems n900 does not forget every past time I wrote the wrong one |
| 13:25.48 | zamn900 | so... now how can I restore now my sim without remembering where I stored the f puk? |
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| 13:26.46 | Hurrian | zamn900: it's the SIM card that locks up into PUK request mode, not the N900 |
| 13:27.02 | Hurrian | you'll need to ask your carrier for the PUK |
| 13:27.15 | zamn900 | uff |
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| 13:34.40 | zamn900 | solved |
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| 13:45.13 | nokiabot | whooa |
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| 13:54.47 | zamn900 | ~applock |
| 13:55.37 | zamn900 | what's wrong with applock? |
| 13:56.16 | zamn900 | and I still |
| 13:56.29 | zamn900 | don't get how to use catorise |
| 13:59.49 | nokiabot | you getting segfaults ? |
| 14:01.51 | zamn900 | nope |
| 14:02.01 | zamn900 | I dont see its menu |
| 14:02.17 | nokiabot | install cartorise plus gui from extras or extras testing repo |
| 14:03.34 | nokiabot | . |
| 14:12.25 | zamn900 | ok and now? |
| 14:14.20 | zamn900 | what should happen? the catorise plus implicated the previous catorise removing |
| 14:14.31 | zamn900 | anyway now? |
| 14:16.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | I never thought catorise a great thing. I discarded it instantly and replaced it by ApMeFo happily |
| 14:16.53 | nokiabot | what have you installd now in clear words please ? |
| 14:17.35 | zamn900 | catorise plus |
| 14:17.54 | zamn900 | it removed the catorise and catorise gui |
| 14:17.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ApMeFo, while not exactly user friendly to _configure_, at least *has* all the configurability I want |
| 14:18.17 | zamn900 | I'll see it doc |
| 14:18.19 | zamn900 | thxs |
| 14:18.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | whule catorise came from a very stupid approach to duplicate the categories as fund in HAM |
| 14:18.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | while* |
| 14:19.16 | zamn900 | so I think |
| 14:19.34 | nokiabot | Just install cartorise plus gui without removing anything or remove it then install cartorise plus gui it will automaticaly install cartorise |
| 14:19.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | I want to sort the apps the way *I* like to see them, not like they are sorted in HAM where I also always have to revert to "all" since otherwise I never find what I'm looking for |
| 14:20.30 | zamn900 | nokiabot I installed all catorise but catorise plus installation removes the other catorise |
| 14:20.35 | nokiabot | @doc let him try cartorise first |
| 14:21.02 | zamn900 | if is possible I would taste catorise |
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| 14:21.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | only downside of ApMeFo (and probably catorise all the same): do NOT move any ison in applauncher EVER. HD doesn't know about any of those catorise/ApMeFo and thus ruins your setup |
| 14:21.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/ison/icon/ |
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| 14:21.52 | nokiabot | remove all cartorise then go to ham and install cartorise plus gui it will do the job |
| 14:22.00 | zamn900 | anyway nokiabot I have installed it but there is no clue |
| 14:22.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | why? |
| 14:22.15 | zamn900 | I'll try |
| 14:22.39 | zamn900 | anyway DocScrutinizer05 something worng with FAM |
| 14:22.57 | sono | haha |
| 14:22.58 | zamn900 | it says all the times check the log for errors |
| 14:23.06 | nokiabot | yeah because you dont have the gui (graphical user interface) |
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| 14:23.43 | zamn900 | nokiabot, i am not talking about catorise |
| 14:23.50 | nokiabot | humm you might have messed the repos |
| 14:23.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~fapman |
| 14:23.50 | infobot | hmm... fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU). It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. in short, it's deprecated |
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| 14:24.22 | zamn900 | I tried clean900 but does not fix |
| 14:24.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
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| 14:24.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | suggests registry-optimizer |
| 14:24.51 | zamn900 | neither HAM installation and uninstallation works to fix catalogs stuff |
| 14:24.57 | zamn900 | ok |
| 14:25.01 | zamn900 | thx |
| 14:26.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.winzip.com/registry-optimizer.html |
| 14:26.19 | zamn900 | lol |
| 14:26.36 | zamn900 | are you kidding? |
| 14:26.43 | nokiabot | epic |
| 14:27.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Is registry optimizer a virus? - Security - Windows 7 - Tom's Hardware<< www.tomshardware.com/forum/46474-63-registry-optimizer-virus |
| 14:27.35 | zamn900 | haha -.- |
| 14:27.52 | sono | did i tell you guys about my amazing new systemd optimizer? just $19.99 |
| 14:28.07 | zamn900 | wow |
| 14:28.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | every 6 months I get a call of some friend: "I installed and run ACME registry optimizer and now bad things happen! can you please help?" |
| 14:29.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | also see |
| 14:29.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~crappatch |
| 14:29.15 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, speedpatch is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1012405#post1012405 >>first i don't realy understand what does this patch do (that is why it is called miracle patch)<< [/quote original-author-of-speedpatch] |
| 14:29.20 | zamn900 | 6 month is the seed stuff |
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| 14:29.41 | zamn900 | crap to seed |
| 14:29.57 | nokiabot | i also get calls like sith happend i pressed nex next next and it dosent boot next time |
| 14:30.15 | zamn900 | kool |
| 14:30.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | so sorry when I felt like quoting all this when I hear [2013-11-09 15:24:22] <zamn900> I tried clean900 but does not fix |
| 14:31.16 | nokiabot | twmorow gonna fix a win7 lappy that is crazy |
| 14:32.17 | zamn900 | but so what I suppose to say... what I did not? or I did not try anything... I depend on your help |
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| 14:32.48 | nokiabot | depend ? |
| 14:33.10 | zamn900 | that sucks... I mean I am on linux OS since I was 12 |
| 14:34.28 | zamn900 | I know there is no registry optimizer but if you never kid... I suppose you are right helping |
| 14:34.53 | zamn900 | this is disappointing treatment |
| 14:35.11 | zamn900 | such I must be helped by you lonely |
| 14:36.14 | zamn900 | anyway I must repeat nokiabot the catorise are conflicting |
| 14:36.29 | zamn900 | and I have installed catorise plus |
| 14:36.44 | zamn900 | but this is disappointing too |
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| 14:41.42 | jon_y | zamn900: there are registry optimizers, just that it is not doing what you think it is doing |
| 14:42.01 | jon_y | those that work mostly do boot time defrag and remove start up programs |
| 14:42.28 | zamn900 | but not on linux or maemo |
| 14:42.31 | jon_y | any bugger claim is stepping into the realm of crapware |
| 14:42.33 | jon_y | true |
| 14:42.39 | jon_y | this is a windows thing |
| 14:51.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | zamn900: forget catorise, install ApMeFo |
| 14:52.15 | zamn900 | I done indeed |
| 14:53.36 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: what is ApMeFo? |
| 14:53.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~pkg |
| 14:53.52 | infobot | from memory, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ |
| 14:54.20 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: I mean how is it different from catorise? |
| 14:54.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>ApMeFo allows the applications menu to be put into a series of folders. Order inside of folder can be sorted by user. One application can be put info few folders.<< |
| 14:55.49 | jon_y | does it follow HAM categories by default? |
| 15:05.40 | zammy | DocScrutinizer05, now I enabled CSSU and CSSU thumb repo |
| 15:05.46 | zammy | is that fine' |
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| 15:05.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | no |
| 15:06.38 | zammy | ... I have just rebooted the phone after an update of all that... 40mb... of updates |
| 15:06.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | you shouldn't mess with repo settings unless you know what you're doing |
| 15:07.13 | zammy | omg does not boot anymore... XD |
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| 15:07.28 | Herbstbert | o.O |
| 15:07.43 | Herbstbert | That's what DocScrutinizer05 wanted to say... |
| 15:07.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you ran an update with CSSU repo enabled but you had not installed CSSU according to the very fine instruction on ~CSSU then you already fux0red your system |
| 15:08.40 | zammy | I started the image below in multiboot... I never booted that... |
| 15:08.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | kinda feels abused for 0th level helpdesk |
| 15:09.16 | zammy | it booted and says operating system updated |
| 15:09.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | WHY DO WE CARE? |
| 15:09.36 | sono | well you're always the first the respond, and you never stop trying |
| 15:09.45 | sono | until you go into full out rant mode |
| 15:09.55 | zammy | that's the truth... I quote sono |
| 15:09.59 | sono | what |
| 15:10.04 | sono | oh god just nevermind |
| 15:10.05 | zammy | you care always |
| 15:10.14 | zammy | and now you complain about that |
| 15:10.20 | zammy | hit your self |
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| 15:12.43 | zammy | XD |
| 15:12.56 | zammy | com on don't hit so hard |
| 15:13.19 | jon_y | I need a new n900 |
| 15:13.32 | jon_y | zammy: give yours over, you are not worthy :) |
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| 16:44.10 | mashina_ | damn it, why won't autogen work in the SDK? |
| 16:46.36 | mashina_ | it's failing horribly :/ |
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| 16:50.43 | sono | not so many details, please.. |
| 16:51.29 | sono | then again, autogen either works as best as it ever did, or fails horribly for indeterminate reasons, at least that's how i know it best... |
| 16:51.36 | sono | so i guess the description was adequate |
| 16:52.37 | mashina_ | it can't find install-sh |
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| 17:14.36 | zammy | DocScrutinizer51, http://paste2.org/xmWOxeyO |
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| 17:35.09 | zammy | that solved DocScrutinizer51 now → http://paste2.org/fcvW1fzp |
| 17:35.52 | zammy | Pali, how to solve GPG keyexpired stuff on repos? |
| 17:36.01 | zammy | I saw you talk on forum |
| 17:36.08 | zammy | but... I don't get... |
| 17:36.11 | Pali | zammy: change date back to year 2010 |
| 17:36.21 | Pali | there is no other solution |
| 17:36.28 | zammy | ok |
| 17:37.12 | freemangordon | Pali: maybe it is time to check if we can "hack" that with fmrx package |
| 17:37.32 | Pali | freemangordon: why? |
| 17:37.42 | Pali | and what to do? |
| 17:37.44 | freemangordon | to change the expired keys? |
| 17:37.46 | zammy | that 2010 works |
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| 17:38.00 | freemangordon | Pali: or policies, or whatever |
| 17:38.07 | Pali | freemangordon: and how you want to change expired key on nokia server? |
| 17:38.17 | zammy | ~flash |
| 17:38.17 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 17:38.28 | zammy | latest one which is? |
| 17:38.31 | zammy | I need it |
| 17:38.48 | freemangordon | Pali: we can't change the keys, but can add a key |
| 17:39.08 | freemangordon | or change the apt policy |
| 17:39.27 | freemangordon | add higher prio repo, something like that |
| 17:40.30 | Pali | freemangordon: ah, did you forget where is problem? |
| 17:40.37 | Pali | problem is on nokia's server |
| 17:40.40 | freemangordon | could be :) |
| 17:40.47 | freemangordon | yes, I know |
| 17:40.54 | Pali | and this cannot be fixed without access to server |
| 17:41.09 | Pali | solution is to move downloads.maemo.nokia.com to r.m.o |
| 17:41.19 | Pali | and then resign repo with new key... |
| 17:41.34 | freemangordon | but we can workaround it if we can access the devices, and (maybe) fmrx package provides the tool |
| 17:41.59 | Pali | freemangordon: and what to workaround? |
| 17:42.29 | freemangordon | that won;t work (re-signing) if we don't increase that new repo priority over nokia's |
| 17:42.54 | freemangordon | afaik |
| 17:43.10 | Pali | resign + change repo in HAM catalogue |
| 17:43.18 | Pali | both must be done |
| 17:43.19 | freemangordon | exactly |
| 17:43.34 | freemangordon | and we can use fmtx package for that purpose |
| 17:43.40 | Pali | and resign means to clone downloads.maemo server to r.m.o |
| 17:43.46 | freemangordon | or at least we can try to use it |
| 17:43.51 | Pali | ok |
| 17:44.02 | freemangordon | thus my point :) |
| 17:44.20 | Pali | but first new clonned repo (with new signatures) needs to be created |
| 17:44.31 | Pali | without that nothing is possible |
| 17:44.50 | freemangordon | no, first we should check if fmtx update will appear if we increase the version |
| 17:45.35 | freemangordon | if there is no new update and manual user intervention is required to install new repo+key cloning is pointless |
| 17:45.47 | freemangordon | as "2010" method is way simpler |
| 17:45.59 | freemangordon | IMO |
| 17:46.12 | zammy | so... what's the suggestion? |
| 17:46.32 | freemangordon | zammy: hmm? |
| 17:47.30 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm, maybe merlin1991's devel-light repo can be used |
| 17:48.02 | freemangordon | hmm, no, extras-devel should be ok |
| 17:51.24 | Pali | or 3rd solution: find bug in HAM :D |
| 17:51.34 | freemangordon | Pali: going to push n900-fmrx-enabler with only the version increased in extras-devel, lets see what will happen |
| 17:51.47 | Pali | ok |
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| 18:01.59 | freemangordon | weird: |
| 18:02.02 | freemangordon | [2013-11-09 17:56:09] ERROR running /etc/buildme.d/check_build: Package n900-fmrx-enabler provides binary package n900-fmrx-enabler which is also available on the device or Nokia repository. Build of this package has been prevented. No entry for terminal type "unknown"; |
| 18:02.02 | freemangordon | using dumb terminal settings. |
| 18:02.26 | freemangordon | Pali: but it was built |
| 18:12.09 | freemangordon | Pali: yep, there is "n900-fmrx-enabler" update :D |
| 18:12.54 | freemangordon | Pali: DocScrutinizer05: so, we have access to most of the devices ;) |
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| 20:47.24 | zemmy | ~pkg |
| 20:47.24 | infobot | somebody said pkg was http://maemo.org/packages/ |
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| 20:57.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | 7opm |
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| 20:59.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry fro the noise, I just recalled why idoru got banned first instance |
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| 21:00.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | this info must have gotten swapped out to tape archive, given it took 10min to access it ;-) |
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| 21:35.19 | Herbstbert | Wtf? ^^ |
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| 21:41.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | sucker |
| 21:41.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-11-09 22:41:23] [Notice] -NickServ- Information on Anjel (account Anjel): |
| 21:41.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-11-09 22:41:23] [Notice] -NickServ- Registered : Oct 03 09:51:34 2009 (4 years, 5 weeks, 3 days, 11:49:49 ago) |
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| 21:45.52 | Herbstbert | Whatever... |
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| 21:50.51 | Jasiro | hey, i would like to know what the dot above the normal wlan symbol wants me to say.. u know? were all available wlans are listed, one has an extra dot on top :) thx in advance |
| 22:00.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | that peer mode, forgot the name |
| 22:00.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | not_infrastructure |
| 22:00.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | no AP |
| 22:00.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | AD-HOC |
| 22:01.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonder what's with my wetware storage today |
| 22:06.09 | Jasiro | so why the fuck does my router start to provide ad hoc... wlan stoped working for my n900 today |
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| 22:23.47 | Jasiro_ | now i fixed that weird adhoc thing, by changing the router. Ubuntu laptop know can connect my n900 still doesnt, is there any knowen issu? |
| 22:24.24 | Jasiro_ | or way to get mor information in fact the pre-shared-key is correct |
| 22:38.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | just delete the connection on N900 and pair again |
| 22:40.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | make sure your router didn't get rooted - see recent D-Link and ddwrt vulnerabilities |
| 22:42.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | DIR-100 (Revision A), DI-524, DI-524/DE, DI-524UP. DI-604S, DI-604UP, DIR-604+, TM-G5240. |
| 22:44.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://more.dlink.de/sicherheit/news.html#news7 |
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