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| 00:26.17 | FIQ | so how do you fix microb w/o a reboot once it decides to not load stuff anymore? :D |
| 00:26.33 | bindi | waves at FIQ |
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| 00:36.47 | FIQ | hi bindi |
| 00:36.49 | FIQ | hmm |
| 00:37.10 | FIQ | why can't you utilize tabs in microB? |
| 00:37.16 | FIQ | the functionality is there |
| 00:37.37 | FIQ | it seems to have some minor issues |
| 00:37.48 | FIQ | but tabs are a lot more convenient than windows lol |
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| 00:43.00 | felipec | anybody else having problems with usbnet in USB3 with the N900? |
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| 00:54.37 | FIQ | --view=tab hmmmmm |
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| 00:55.03 | FIQ | it's quite buggy, but I think that stems from my method of starting browser ui raher than tab functionality |
| 00:55.10 | FIQ | the tabs themselves look weird though |
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| 02:28.21 | Gear_ | hey, OMweather is bringing up the weather for tomorrow |
| 02:28.24 | Gear_ | instead of today |
| 02:28.48 | Gear_ | the settings are set for australia and it's never had this problem before |
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| 06:54.08 | brolin_empey | Is there any way to use WeChat on Maemo 5, preferably without emulating another platform? I saw Alien Dalvik mentioned in the results of my DuckDuckGo query but part of my reason for using a Nokia N900 is to avoid the lameness of the Android OS. |
| 07:00.03 | brolin_empey | The person who recommended WeChat to me uses Apple iOS, which I do not use and do not expect to ever use. |
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| 07:15.45 | brolin_empey | has asked WeChat Support “Is there any way to use WeChat on Maemo 5 on my Nokia N900?”; I will reply to this channel if I receive a reply. |
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| 07:22.39 | Hurrian | brolin_empey: https://github.com/pakesson/ParallelDroid |
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| 07:33.31 | brolin_empey | Hurrian: Does ParallelDroid run on Maemo 5? |
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| 07:48.37 | Hurrian | brolin_empey: it does - you'll just have to enable the Android drivers. |
| 07:48.55 | Hurrian | on Harmattan, it's a bit more involved because there's no GTK, but it works too. |
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| 08:07.59 | brolin_empey | Hurrian: I do not have a Nokia N9; I do not use Harmattan. |
| 08:08.35 | Hurrian | it works on the N900 - you can install a GCC toolchain from the repos and build a new kernel with that. |
| 08:10.09 | brolin_empey | Hurrian: Install a toolchain where? On the N900? On a desktop computer? |
| 08:10.28 | Hurrian | onto the N900. |
| 08:13.18 | brolin_empey | Hurrian: Maybe I can convince freemangordon or pali to include the Android OS device drivers in the kernel-power so I do not need to sidetrack myself to build and install a custom kernel for Maemo 5? |
| 08:14.29 | Hurrian | that's a big 'maybe' - they're unnecessary for Fremantle, add to the runtime memory footprint of the kernel, and are only interesting to whoever would like to run Android alongside Maemo. |
| 08:14.53 | Hurrian | you can always try, though - IIRC e-yes pushed the android drivers to the kernel in a squashed commit |
| 08:18.31 | brolin_empey | Hurrian: I have still not yet even tried the (prerelease) kp52 build pali made so I could test dm9601.ko + asix.ko with my hardware after pali finally applied my 2 patches from 2013-08-15 . |
| 08:20.55 | brolin_empey | needs to relocate himself to his bed && sleep. |
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| 15:03.16 | jon_y | what is the capacity of the stock BL-5J? |
| 15:03.31 | freemangordon | 1320 |
| 15:03.51 | jon_y | ok, I heard the older ones had lower capacities |
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| 15:22.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | the newer ones have 1350 or sth allegedly |
| 15:22.31 | freemangordon | 1430 :) |
| 15:27.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | do they also have a different BSI then? |
| 15:27.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | no 1430 one here |
| 15:28.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | but an obviously fake one |
| 15:29.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | with different shade of "color", different placement of hologram, different printing... |
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| 17:21.42 | nokiabot | holy shit i logged to irc |
| 17:24.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | OMG |
| 17:25.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | nokiabot logged to IRC!!1!11!!11! |
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| 17:25.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | and left IRC 136s after noticing his mistake ;-P |
| 17:26.27 | nokiabot | what the heck is happening |
| 17:26.43 | nokiabot | where am i actually |
| 17:26.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | on earth |
| 17:26.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | I hope |
| 17:27.01 | nokiabot | hello doc |
| 17:27.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi |
| 17:27.40 | nokiabot | holy shit my first message on irc transmitted |
| 17:27.48 | nokiabot | yay |
| 17:27.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually your 3rd |
| 17:28.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | or 4th, counting #maemo-ssu as well |
| 17:29.20 | nokiabot | so this is #maemo then others like #maemo-ssu etc fall in sub category ? |
| 17:29.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | no categories on IRC |
| 17:29.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | only channels |
| 17:29.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | flat list of channels |
| 17:30.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | (layman's approach) |
| 17:30.29 | nokiabot | hey first ever on irc i logged to all listed in wikiirc :p |
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| 17:30.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you join a channel, it will be there, no matter if it's #jkqibUNHNXDC or ##my-leete-chan |
| 17:31.01 | nokiabot | dos 1 hi |
| 17:31.28 | sixwheeledbeast | http://wiki.maemo.org/IRC ? |
| 17:31.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | tztztz |
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| 17:31.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi dos1 |
| 17:31.47 | nokiabot | yeah sixwheeled |
| 17:32.12 | nokiabot | @doc what will be there |
| 17:32.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | nokiabot: irc nettiquette: use <tab> to autocomplete a so called "highlight" at start of each post |
| 17:33.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | so everybody knows whom you're talking to, and you don't mistype the names |
| 17:33.16 | sixwheeledbeast | is out off to a beer festival :P |
| 17:33.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 17:33.27 | nokiabot | and when i post anything here is it visible in all maemo channels or are they independent channels |
| 17:33.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | in 30 min meat Ing |
| 17:34.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | this channel is this channel is this channel |
| 17:34.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's no real relation between this chan and e.g. #maemo-ssu |
| 17:34.47 | nokiabot | ok got the basic concept |
| 17:35.03 | nokiabot | thanx |
| 17:35.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw |
| 17:35.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | also see /topic |
| 17:35.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | /topic |
| 17:35.48 | nokiabot | this is the right place familear faces here . |
| 17:35.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually has fine info relevant to the channel |
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| 17:36.38 | nokiabot | topic is a channel or ? |
| 17:37.27 | nokiabot | the wiki is good |
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| 17:40.54 | nokiabot | you were just versioned by doc . What was that? |
| 17:42.14 | nokiabot | well too sleepy good night guys have a good day |
| 17:42.42 | nokiabot | 1,1««2,1««12,1««6,1««4,1««7,1««9,1««8,1««13,1 testing 8,1»»9,1»»7,1»»4,1»»6,1»»12,1»»2,1»»1,1» |
| 17:43.05 | nokiabot | 1,1««2,1««12,1««6,1««4,1««7,1««9,1««8,1««13,1 testing 8,1»»9,1»»7,1»»4,1»»6,1»»12,1»»2,1»»1,1» |
| 17:43.11 | nokiabot | oops |
| 17:43.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't do this! |
| 17:43.41 | nokiabot | ok buddy i was just exploring |
| 17:44.27 | nokiabot | testing |
| 17:45.20 | nokiabot | good night doc |
| 17:45.24 | nokiabot | exit |
| 17:45.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | n8 nokiabot |
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| 18:21.47 | dos1 | http://slashdot.org/story/13/11/08/1740232/stephen-elop-would-pull-a-nokia-on-microsoft |
| 18:23.13 | dos1 | looks like our jokes were true - everyone's favourite CEO *really* plans to apply the same strategy to Microsoft :D |
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| 18:24.51 | sono | hah. and only days ago i was calling someone's theory about microsoft being a goner in 10 years out as unlikely |
| 18:24.59 | sono | i figured it would take at least another 15 years |
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| 18:33.07 | dos1 | what do you think - who's gonna buy Microsoft? ;) |
| 18:35.56 | sono | depends how much it is for |
| 18:36.02 | sono | the comments may have it right, tho |
| 18:38.59 | mashina_ | apple buys microsoft |
| 18:39.30 | mashina_ | uses associated patent base to destroy samsung and redyce korea to ashes by teaming up the north korea |
| 18:52.41 | zammy | hey there how I flash my mmc |
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| 19:11.02 | zammy | oh nitdroid installer flashed it alone |
| 19:11.22 | zammy | anyway... its first loading is very timely |
| 19:12.23 | zammy | wtf... I touch the android bot... it does not start |
| 19:14.47 | zammy | alright finally |
| 19:15.22 | zammy | how can now access google server if I still have not set the wifi password |
| 19:15.48 | zammy | alright... but it is slow |
| 19:21.34 | zammy | wow difficult to manage this nitdroid |
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| 20:18.29 | dos1 | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4425863&cid=45370535 :D |
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| 20:25.50 | SpeedEvil | hehe |
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| 20:28.06 | Tekk_ | did nokia stock price really double when it was announced that he was being sold off to ms? |
| 20:28.09 | Tekk_ | wouldn't surprise me |
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| 20:52.34 | ShadowJK | it wasn't that significant |
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| 21:48.35 | fil | what is it that in charge of changing the cpufreq on the n900? (I'm pretty sure that it dropping back to 250MHz is what kills my SIP calls, so I'd like to persuade it to leave that at 600MHz to see if that helps) |
| 21:53.11 | unclouded | find /sys/ | grep cpufr |
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| 22:01.04 | fil | unclouded: yeah, but that doesn't help much if one finds that a) you cannot change until you switch to the 'userspace' governor, and perhaps not even then, and b) even if you manage to change that, something is cheerfully changing it back again pretty much immediately |
| 22:02.21 | unclouded | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:04.30 | fil | filN900:/etc/hal/fdi# echo 600000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq |
| 22:04.34 | fil | sh: write error: Invalid argument |
| 22:05.35 | fil | as I said, you cannot write it without sodding about with the governor, and often not even then -- it seems that something is setting it back again, and I was trying to find out what |
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| 22:17.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | Nokia hardware expert: "do NOT lock N900 to 600MHz or it will fry" |
| 22:21.04 | fil | DocScrutinizer05: ah, fair enough -- so the rumour that the frequency backing off is the cause of SIP calls going shitty after a while is false? |
| 22:22.37 | fil | cannot say I'm that surprised -- all my previous attempts to get to the bottom of that have been fruitless, so I shouldn't be surprised by another dead-end |
| 22:24.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | fil: I can't see how it would fail because of low CPU clock freq. If the codec needed more power, the freq-governor would crank up the clock anyway. And actually most codecs are not that heavy |
| 22:25.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's rather WPA maybe that causes heavy load |
| 22:25.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | or damn PA |
| 22:26.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway I'm using my N900 every day for SIP via sipgate.de and it usually "just works" after initial 5s stabilization phase |
| 22:27.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | when something goes bonkers then thats regularly and reliably tracker-indexer that kicks in when the recorded call gets written to .wav |
| 22:28.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | needs to review the tracker.cfg |
| 22:29.00 | fil | well, I'm grasping at straws a bit -- I was recently forced to rely on my n900 for incomming VoIP, and was thus reminded how dire it is (works for about 30 seconds, then I tend to lose inbound audio -- sometimes recoverable by muting my end briefly) |
| 22:30.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, that bug report is not unheard |
| 22:30.45 | fil | this is with freeswitch at the other end -- IIRC sipgate was rather better, but not in a very deterministic way |
| 22:30.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's completely unclear what is causing this |
| 22:31.32 | ShadowJK | I'm reminded of media player stopping playback of net streams :-) |
| 22:31.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | I still tend to blame WLAN and swapping |
| 22:31.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | and particularly do NOT run recaller to record the call |
| 22:32.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | and make sure your audio has no weird stuff configured, like equalizers or whatever |
| 22:32.37 | fil | DocScrutinizer05: yeah, I know -- I was probably here talking about it every couple of years -- I deal with it by not using VoIP if I can help it (which is really quite annoying as that would be rather useful if it worked) |
| 22:32.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | SIP ever worked for me, without any patch on audio |
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| 22:33.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | you would know if it was you who ran a test call with me |
| 22:39.48 | fil | dont think I called anyone here, but certainly did a lot of tests with different codecs and the like calling myself and patient friends |
| 22:41.18 | fil | also seem to remeber getting the same poor performance over USB-net which seems to indicate that it's not WPA/WiFi related in my case |
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| 23:02.25 | Ashley` | hi |
| 23:02.37 | Ashley` | oh, hi ashley ;v |
| 23:02.50 | ashley | howdy |
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