| 00:03.47 | lexik | Neo900 reddit page has been marked as spam :/ |
| 00:03.48 | lexik | http://www.reddit.com/r/Neo900 |
| 00:06.58 | GeneralAntilles | Click the link in the middle? |
| 00:10.10 | lexik | GeneralAntilles: Done :P |
| 00:10.19 | lexik | three days ago |
| 00:10.53 | GeneralAntilles | Slow response. |
| 00:28.46 | dos1 | lexik: we've got lots of views from reddit anyway |
| 00:28.53 | dos1 | from /r/android :D |
| 00:29.11 | lexik | :D |
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| 07:51.28 | Apic | Good Morning (UGT). |
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| 08:33.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal broken |
| 08:33.03 | infobot | "broken" is "mailto:nothing@machine.cx -> http://machine.cx/debian/ or screen shots are at http://nivda.machine.cx or that's sid for you." |
| 08:33.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo broken is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/known_broken_packages |
| 08:33.23 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 08:33.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~broken |
| 08:33.33 | infobot | well, broken is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/known_broken_packages |
| 08:35.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | qwerty123 finally should ffiixx hhiiss kkeeyyss!! !! !! !! |
| 08:36.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>hav yu tried sumthing like thiss???<< OMG! |
| 08:42.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: please check >>E: Package liblzo2-2 has no installation candidate<< issue as reported by Malinux in http://paste.ubuntu.com/6319570/ ^^^^ |
| 08:43.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | bm not installable is inacceptable |
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| 10:01.52 | anYc | is it possible (with reasonable methods) to unmount /home? I have a fs error on mmcblk0p2. |
| 10:02.09 | anYc | I can also boot nemo but it would be nice if it's possible from within maemo |
| 10:09.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, it is possible, BM is doing this - or almost this, it's simply not mounting /home since it's started in early bootup init process |
| 10:10.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | once maemo is completely started, it's virtually impossible to umount /home |
| 10:10.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bm |
| 10:10.42 | infobot | from memory, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 |
| 10:11.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | get it, you'll wonder why you didn't already :-) |
| 10:12.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think there also might be a way to force a /home fsck during next boot, by placing some flag file somewhere (ala touch /fsck-home <- this is not it) |
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| 10:22.19 | anYc | problem with backups is, they are always too old ;) |
| 10:22.33 | anYc | but thanks :) |
| 10:23.17 | anYc | I fscked it with nemo, lots of unused blocks. Let's see if he was able to fix it |
| 10:23.34 | anYc | is this usually an indicator that the emmc is dying? |
| 10:24.24 | anYc | I thought about moving maemo to the sdcard anyway as I read that new sdcard are usually faster than the internal emmc |
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| 10:39.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | BM is not only about backups, it even has a fsck option |
| 10:41.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | eMMC has a 8bit interface, uSd has a 4bit interface. So unless it's about writing huge amounts of data, eMMC should be always faster than any uSD, no matter how fast the uSD may be |
| 10:41.27 | anYc | ah okay, that's handy. I'll try it, thanks |
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| 10:42.27 | anYc | oh, hm. I read that here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N900 |
| 10:42.43 | anYc | okay, they're saying "probably" |
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| 10:58.19 | ruskie | http://motorola-blog.blogspot.fr/2013/10/goodbye-sticky-hello-ara.html |
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| 14:47.14 | bindi | anyone link that tv-out feature nokia demoed making the tv into a touch screen using the phones camera? |
| 14:47.48 | bindi | or did i dream about that? :P |
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| 15:00.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | umm |
| 15:01.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's not exactly easy to do |
| 15:01.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | so you probably dreamed it |
| 15:02.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | even with a clear unobstructed (by your body) LOS from cam to the screen it's not easy or not possible at all to actually tell apart touches from hoovering ofer the screen in 5 or 10cm distance |
| 15:03.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you look from the side of the screen you can tell a touch but you don't see where |
| 15:03.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like a big hoax or one of your dreams to me |
| 15:04.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/ofer/over/ |
| 15:05.43 | r00t|home | what about that laser keyboard... |
| 15:06.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | that afaik worked with 2 cams and a lase projector - or even two |
| 15:06.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | there are touch screens working with 2 cams |
| 15:06.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | but not with one cam |
| 15:07.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | the 2 cams are mounted in two corners of screen |
| 15:07.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually upper right and upper left, I guess |
| 15:08.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | thus you can actually calculate position of finger on screen |
| 15:08.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | simple triangulation |
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| 15:09.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | afaik the laser kbd works exactly same |
| 15:10.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | if it happens to work at all, I heard it's quite unreliable |
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| 15:15.28 | bindi | DocScrutinizer05: it was with n8, plug and touch |
| 15:15.30 | r00t|home | it also has the advantage of a high contrast fixed image |
| 15:15.34 | bindi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBQle3y7YVQ |
| 15:16.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | looks a bit like a hoax |
| 15:17.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's a Wii-type motion/gesture detection, but I don't see how they, even theoretically, detect touch events |
| 15:17.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess they're massively cheating in this video |
| 15:18.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | you eihter need a sensor in TV/LCD or attached to the human body that touches it, to detect a touch event |
| 15:19.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | no way a setup like visible in this video can do what they suggest it does |
| 15:20.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | you *theoretically* could detect the artifacts an LCD produces when you press it hard, to detect touch |
| 15:21.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | contemporary LCD are rather immune to those effects though |
| 15:21.40 | bindi | what's with stereo plugs being too big to fit phones |
| 15:21.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | eh? |
| 15:21.56 | bindi | i resoldered two koss porta pro 3.5mm stereo plugs, turns out they're too big to fit note 2 / lumia 1020 |
| 15:21.59 | bindi | fits n900 / pc fine :p |
| 15:22.06 | bindi | the tip is too big |
| 15:22.12 | bindi | compared to a plug that fits |
| 15:22.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | err |
| 15:23.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | obviously noze2 has a nonstandard receptacle then. Maybe a 2.5mm? |
| 15:23.24 | bindi | nope, |
| 15:24.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, what was your question? |
| 15:24.26 | bindi | random blabbering |
| 15:25.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | too thick or too long? |
| 15:25.10 | bindi | thinck |
| 15:25.12 | bindi | thick |
| 15:25.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | there are known apple over-length 3.5mm plugs that tend to destroy standard device you force them in |
| 15:26.28 | bindi | i bought it from http://www.vekoy.com/info_pages.php?pages_id=28 |
| 15:27.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | *shrug* |
| 15:27.04 | bindi | http://www.vekoy.com/product_info.php?products_id=625 |
| 15:28.00 | mashina | i need new earbuds anyways - the one i was using that came with the N800 fell apart |
| 15:28.41 | mashina | one of them was not putting, dangling our from the cover, and the foam didn't fit |
| 15:28.54 | mashina | shame as they had good audio |
| 15:29.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | bindi: prolly cheap chinese crap that used standard 3.5mm plugs and goldplated them, forgetting about the additional diameter |
| 15:29.24 | merlin1991 | ich konnte auch nicht0, |
| 15:29.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | echan |
| 15:29.42 | mashina | scheiss |
| 15:30.54 | bindi | http://sdrv.ms/1ch28rX left one fits, right one doesn't |
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| 15:31.58 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: nah |
| 15:32.00 | merlin1991 | EWINDOW |
| 15:32.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | waves |
| 15:32.39 | merlin1991 | it's actually a combination of arrow up (message history) and random letters :D |
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| 17:35.26 | trx | how can i access SIM data? |
| 17:35.54 | trx | i have a SIM card that had its contacts deleted by accident |
| 17:36.10 | trx | i'm looking for a way to recover that data |
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| 17:59.10 | sixwheeledbeast | trx: USB SIM reader? |
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| 18:05.37 | trx | sixwheeledbeast i dont have one |
| 18:05.56 | trx | i was hoping that n900 can emulate one :) |
| 18:06.31 | trx | if i obtain one of those i could access it like any card right? |
| 18:07.26 | sixwheeledbeast | I have seen them for PC's I expect them to have software to recover contacts etc. |
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| 18:12.15 | trx | i guess then i'll give it a try |
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| 19:36.36 | sixwheeledbeast | uh .. |
| 19:36.39 | sixwheeledbeast | ~pkg |
| 19:36.39 | infobot | well, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ |
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| 19:38.22 | sixwheeledbeast | yay, vagalume update |
| 19:42.23 | ecc2g | odd, havent seen the certificate handling fix promoted (for the agps/SUPL server problem?) |
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| 20:03.38 | sixwheeledbeast | re certificates the Nokia SSU repo's have expired have they not? It seems a device my friend acquired on PR1.2 will not OTA update due to expired keys. |
| 20:04.10 | sixwheeledbeast | ecc2g: do to mean in T8.3? |
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| 20:08.14 | ecc2g | err.. no..well maybe, dunno what package is what, but I'm using cssu-stable now... Last I read on t.m.o the supl.nokia.com problem was due to inability to read the right certificate on the n900 and there was some fix? |
| 20:12.10 | sixwheeledbeast | oh well no there hasn't been a CSSU-S update for a while. I'd expect it in the next one if no issues with it. |
| 20:12.43 | sixwheeledbeast | I have it installed on my CSSU-S so it works fine :) |
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| 20:33.38 | Pali | change year back to 2010 and Nokia SSU repo will work :-) |
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| 20:38.03 | sixwheeledbeast | in the end I got root and apt-get for him so he can CSSU. |
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| 22:50.06 | Agge | I have an old N900 that I would like to be able to use again what should I do to get the most use from it? The device is fully funtional just havent been used in years. |
| 22:50.58 | sixwheeledbeast | Agge: update it and use it |
| 22:51.19 | Agge | do nokia still make updates for it? |
| 22:51.33 | sixwheeledbeast | community updates now. |
| 22:51.44 | sixwheeledbeast | what bersion you have now? |
| 22:51.51 | sixwheeledbeast | s/bersion/version/ |
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| 22:52.11 | Agge | probibly the last one that nokia pushed |
| 22:53.15 | sixwheeledbeast | possibly not |
| 22:53.56 | sixwheeledbeast | there have been security fixes in both Nokia and CSSU (community) updates |
| 22:54.04 | sixwheeledbeast | ~getversion |
| 22:54.04 | infobot | methinks getversion is input the following in a terminal "osso-product-info | grep OSSO_VERSION | cut -d "'" -f 2; dpkg-query -W -f='${Version}n' mp-fremantle-community-pr; uname -r" |
| 22:54.48 | sixwheeledbeast | or Settings > About product |
| 22:54.53 | Agge | i should have found it and started it before I asked the question :( looks like the bathery is drained so it wont boot right away :( |
| 22:56.19 | sixwheeledbeast | ~flatbatrecover |
| 22:56.19 | infobot | Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber going off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover. CAVEAT! Only works when ~rootfs is OK (no ~bootloop)!. |
| 22:57.57 | Agge | hm thanks geting the stedy amber now but it is conected to a computer for power not the original charger |
| 22:59.14 | sixwheeledbeast | Best to use charge if possible, or it may take a while. |
| 22:59.19 | sixwheeledbeast | charger |
| 22:59.51 | Agge | ok. funny that the original charger from the N900 is still my main phone charger :) |
| 23:00.37 | sixwheeledbeast | ~cssu |
| 23:00.37 | infobot | cssu is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
| 23:00.57 | sixwheeledbeast | Reading while you wait :) |
| 23:01.16 | Agge | thanks :) |
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| 23:04.41 | Agge | it begun to flash amber as fast as I conected it to the charger :) |
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| 23:05.36 | sixwheeledbeast | Nokia Hands? |
| 23:06.02 | Agge | yeah |
| 23:06.16 | Agge | booted now |
| 23:07.20 | sixwheeledbeast | if you have not used in a while and there is nothing on there you need I would reflash to clean any buggy software etc. |
| 23:07.25 | sixwheeledbeast | ~flashing |
| 23:07.26 | infobot | hmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 23:08.42 | sixwheeledbeast | When flashed with >PR1.3 you can install community update from ~cssu |
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| 23:10.52 | Agge | that sounds good might be some old sms that I would like to keep is it any good way to do that? |
| 23:11.43 | sixwheeledbeast | default backup applcation can store SMS and contacts to SD |
| 23:12.42 | Agge | aha Thanks |
| 23:13.28 | Agge | remembered how I did to imput a "|" in the terminal :) |
| 23:15.02 | sixwheeledbeast | Some widgets can be known to slow down the device. so best to start a fresh and only install what you need after reflash+CSSU. |
| 23:15.32 | Agge | yeah last time I tried to use it it was realy slow |
| 23:15.47 | sixwheeledbeast | There are multiple reasons for this... |
| 23:17.30 | sixwheeledbeast | Unconfirmed leaky widgets, crappatches, devices memory bottleneck. |
| 23:17.59 | sixwheeledbeast | One and two are simple don't install them |
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| 23:18.53 | sixwheeledbeast | the latter can be solved by CSSU-Thumb or/and putting swap on uSD. |
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| 23:27.15 | Agge | the about product say that the version is 21.2011.38-1 |
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| 23:28.35 | Agge | the command complained about dpkg-query not existing |
| 23:28.38 | sixwheeledbeast | So that's the latest Nokia aka PR1.3.1 |
| 23:29.32 | sixwheeledbeast | that's correct, that part of the command is CSSU only |
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| 23:49.04 | Agge | thank sixwheeledbeast now I know whare to start. I will let i charge over night and begin the new install tomorrow :) |
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| 23:50.31 | sixwheeledbeast | Agge: that is best :) CSSU install will abort if not fully charged. any questions you know where to ask. |
| 23:50.57 | Agge | thanks |
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