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| 06:10.28 | Pali | jonwil: are you able to RE 20k arm binary? |
| 06:11.29 | Pali | or it is too big? |
| 06:12.00 | Pali | (it is shared library so all function names are there) |
| 06:12.46 | Pali | write me then, going offline |
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| 06:30.02 | ShadowJK | hm, the standards have improved since I last traveled by train |
| 06:30.14 | ShadowJK | free wifi onboard :-) |
| 06:39.59 | SAiF | which country? and what bandwidth? just curious |
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| 06:52.56 | ShadowJK | finland |
| 06:53.11 | ShadowJK | dunno about bandwidth, but latency seems pretty random and bad |
| 06:53.44 | ShadowJK | though possibly not as bad as 3g when traveling at high speed through woods in the middle of nowhere |
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| 06:55.28 | fizzie | The Finnish VR wifi is kind of bad. (They've also blocked a number of uses-a-lot-of-bandwidth services -- Youtube, Netflix, Spotify, Steam, Windows Update, etc. -- in an attempt to improve it. (Hasn't seemed to help much.)) |
| 06:56.46 | ShadowJK | Heh |
| 06:57.20 | ShadowJK | Yeah my vpn to irc didn't work, but ssh was open so I could log in to my vpn server and reconfigure it for udp port 110 |
| 06:57.56 | ShadowJK | They let pop3 through but sloppily enabled both udp and tcp :) |
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| 06:59.30 | ShadowJK | ugh, this is bad indeed.. but atleast my N900 will eat much less powerr :-) |
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| 07:02.13 | ShadowJK | Sitting still at station: 3% packet loss, round-trip min/avg/max = 89.447/454.852/1733.338 ms |
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| 07:06.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-S |
| 07:07.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | hates it when bouncer gets disconnected |
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| 07:08.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: railway-GSM |
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| 07:08.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | they got their own band |
| 07:09.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | and a network of BTS that meets their needs |
| 07:10.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | railway and phone always funny |
| 07:10.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | they always had their own "landline" too |
| 07:10.50 | ShadowJK | moving high speed through the woods:25% packetloss, round-trip min/avg/max = 148.986/1135.704/6336.609 ms |
| 07:11.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 07:11.49 | fizzie | It's supposed to automatically switch the uplink to use wifi when at stations, at least if it thinks that works better than regular mobile networks or the "@450" network it uses elsewhere. |
| 07:12.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | right, 450 it been |
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| 07:18.39 | ShadowJK | The @450 is available for consumers too |
| 07:18.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh? where? |
| 07:20.45 | ShadowJK | it's kinda obsolete-ish unless you're out of range of 3g/adsl though |
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| 07:22.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | aah, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands#GSM-450 |
| 07:24.32 | ShadowJK | it's not gsm, it's flash-ofdm, iirc |
| 07:24.40 | fizzie | Right. |
| 07:24.53 | fizzie | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash-OFDM#FLASH-OFDM "In Finland, the license holder Digita began deployment of a nationwide "@450" wireless network in parts of the country since April 2007. It was purchased by Datame in 2011.[27] In February 2012 Datame announced they would upgrade the 450 MHz network to competing CDMA2000 technology.[28]" |
| 07:25.00 | fizzie | Didn't know it had been sold, though. |
| 07:25.51 | ShadowJK | or maybe they changed the modulation, I have a vague memory that they were going to do that |
| 07:25.53 | fizzie | They claim a coverage of "99.9% of the population", which I guess is their main selling point. (With speeds of "0.3M - 10M, depending".) |
| 07:25.59 | sono | gsm-450 o.o that's some seriously old stuff here |
| 07:26.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM-R |
| 07:26.57 | ShadowJK | Yeah I thought Digita still had it |
| 07:26.59 | sono | well we still use that |
| 07:27.30 | sono | well we need reliable data on our rails |
| 07:27.39 | sono | for the actual operation, not for meatbags wanting to check their mail |
| 07:28.33 | sono | DocScrutinizer05: oh are you german too? |
| 07:28.39 | sono | haha i didn't even notice. |
| 07:28.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, I live on third planet, SOL-3 |
| 07:29.03 | sono | that's stupid |
| 07:29.06 | sono | who names a planet SOL |
| 07:29.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | the system is SOL |
| 07:29.28 | sono | oh my |
| 07:29.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | SOL-3 is third planet in system SOL |
| 07:30.08 | sono | i should wake up before i irc |
| 07:30.33 | ShadowJK | the exposed engineering panels are disturbing |
| 07:31.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | natives have another name for this planet, they always do |
| 07:31.11 | ShadowJK | well not exposed, but the equipment cabinet has transparent windows |
| 07:31.12 | ShadowJK | said "Brake error" on the display :-) |
| 07:31.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 07:31.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: hehe |
| 07:31.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | seen that often |
| 07:32.05 | sono | haha nice one |
| 07:36.34 | jaska | its more lue €450.. the transfer limits are pretty low |
| 07:36.37 | jaska | like* |
| 07:36.48 | jaska | the @45 |
| 07:36.49 | jaska | 0 |
| 07:37.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: also funny: on those panels you see how they do electric power for the train waggons. Each one has its own dynamo and batteries |
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| 07:38.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | 48V usually, IIRC |
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| 09:52.03 | ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer05; these are fed by the locomotive's pickup I think |
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| 10:00.23 | ShadowJK | though there was also a battery voltage needle resting at just below 150V |
| 10:07.02 | ShadowJK | The old "blue" cars from 60s were designed to be pulled by diesels, and had the dynamo+batterybank, and their own oil tank for heating :) |
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| 11:27.56 | _jester_ | hello world |
| 11:29.30 | _jester_ | one quick question |
| 11:29.31 | _jester_ | can i simply install cssu-stable or cssu-testing if im not happy with cssu-thumb |
| 11:29.45 | _jester_ | or would it require a flash? |
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| 11:52.46 | XATRIX | I think i've broke some dbus service in my maemo |
| 11:53.06 | XATRIX | When i plug in my AC charger - nothing happens |
| 11:53.25 | XATRIX | What service should i try to restart ? Don't want to reset the whole device |
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| 12:16.16 | SpeedEvil | Why do you think it's not hardware XATRIX? |
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| 12:20.34 | XATRIX | SpeedEvil: bmc is a software controlled stuff |
| 12:20.54 | XATRIX | Sorry, BME |
| 12:21.40 | SpeedEvil | Are yourunning stock BME? |
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| 12:56.17 | XATRIX | SpeedEvil: yes, DocScrutinizer05 instruct me not to run any BME replacement |
| 12:57.03 | XATRIX | Currently i do plug/unplug of a AC charger. Nothing changes on screen. No yellow indicator in idle mode |
| 12:57.05 | SpeedEvil | And you've tried a different cable and charger/socket |
| 12:57.29 | XATRIX | I'm sure it will be ok, after i restart the device. But i'm curious what's happening now |
| 12:57.38 | XATRIX | Don't want to simply restart |
| 12:57.56 | XATRIX | The charger is 100% healthy |
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| 13:51.30 | _jester_ | stupid data plan |
| 13:51.35 | _jester_ | hello again world |
| 13:51.42 | _jester_ | same question |
| 13:52.10 | _jester_ | do i need to re-flash to shift from thumb to stable or testing cssu? |
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| 13:58.48 | Raimu-X | I don't think so |
| 13:59.02 | Raimu-X | But it's probably recommended anyhoo |
| 13:59.17 | Raimu-X | Thumb is the one you need a specific kernel to use |
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| 14:40.51 | _jester_ | thanks Raimu |
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| 15:20.08 | Vibe | hi |
| 15:20.50 | Vibe | do you know if its possible to use nokia RCA cable to output just sound from n900 ? |
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| 15:21.11 | Vibe | to speakers |
| 15:21.28 | Vibe | cable is Nokia CA-75U |
| 15:24.52 | MMN-o | Vibe: Solution 1. Just use a generic headphone cable. |
| 15:25.22 | MMN-o | Vibe: Solution 2. You can enable the audio output for headphones using 'alsamixer' or something. |
| 15:25.44 | MMN-o | (while having video output disabled) |
| 15:26.08 | MMN-o | I did it the other way around once, enabling local speakers while outputing video over RCA. |
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| 15:31.56 | Vibe | MMN-o: hmm got it working with splitter cable -> http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzQ0WDUwMA==/z/vnoAAOxyLiJR39GC/$T2eC16FHJGgFFm+cPy1OBR39GB)qY!~~60_1.JPG?set_id=8800005007 |
| 15:32.19 | Vibe | so n900 thinks to just output audio |
| 15:33.54 | Vibe | so 3.5mm extension cable or adapter would do the trick also |
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| 15:54.23 | ruskie | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHLkWd8z9PY |
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| 16:18.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | Vibe: solution 3: short the yellow plug of CA-75 with a second rca plug or some tin foil or whatever you see fit |
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| 21:25.25 | zammy | my n900 after the last upgrade is not bootable... neither with backup menu... |
| 21:25.54 | zammy | how to make a last backup before of reinstalling its OS |
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| 21:50.08 | sono | i changed the system locale to .UTF-8 and sourced it |
| 21:50.24 | sono | will it still come up on reboot? |
| 21:54.03 | zammy | I hope to get an answer... |
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| 21:59.16 | NIN101 | zammy: try rescueOS |
| 21:59.23 | NIN101 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75369 |
| 22:00.26 | NIN101 | there is no convenient interface for backups or so, you must cp etc. |
| 22:01.54 | zammy | maybe...but actually how... |
| 22:02.01 | zammy | I mean did you do it before? |
| 22:02.16 | zammy | I downloaded the img |
| 22:02.17 | zammy | 1.1 |
| 22:02.48 | zammy | shall I plug some usb with adapter? |
| 22:03.09 | zammy | I don't think I can have right now some microsd... maybe with that yes |
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| 22:03.22 | zammy | I would do everything |
| 22:03.51 | sono | ~flasher |
| 22:03.52 | infobot | methinks flasher is http://wiki.maemo.org/Flasher, or http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php |
| 22:05.04 | NIN101 | it's documented... best chance is probaly to enable mass-storage mode and copy the data to your PC. |
| 22:05.35 | Herbstbert | Hi. |
| 22:09.56 | zammy | exactly NIN101 all I want is just to copy all inside my pc... so i would by wifi |
| 22:10.44 | zammy | but... so with only flasher and no need of this img |
| 22:13.06 | NIN101 | flasher can not copy your data to your PC. |
| 22:16.35 | zammy | ... so NIN101 I can use flasher like I would reinstall the OS I want |
| 22:16.44 | zammy | and... I install the img you gave me |
| 22:16.57 | zammy | so... it does not overwrite anything... right? |
| 22:17.19 | zammy | but allows me to recover and connect the n900 to pc and copy some data? |
| 22:17.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | bsically yes |
| 22:17.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | rescueOS is loaded to RAM, so no data gets erased |
| 22:22.08 | zammy | tomorrow I am going to do that |
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