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| 09:16.15 | infobot | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 13:38.33 | narcos | Hi maemoers. Anyone else unable to login here? - http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php |
| 13:38.48 | narcos | I get "Product ID not valid. Please re-enter the 15-digit IMEI code." |
| 13:39.14 | narcos | Meh, ffs, have to remove forward slahes |
| 13:41.14 | narcos | I wonder if I should use the UK or global one |
| 13:41.37 | kolp | narcos: Just get the firmware from one of the mirrors |
| 13:42.23 | narcos | aha |
| 13:42.25 | narcos | finds http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/nokia_N900/ |
| 13:43.19 | narcos | It seems I need to perform these commands: flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R , flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R , and then the first one again |
| 13:45.14 | narcos | Does this script seem correct ? - http://pastebin.com/N5vYhzg5 |
| 13:46.39 | l4m3rx | mmm.... i think not... w8 |
| 13:48.54 | l4m3rx | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#N900 |
| 13:49.04 | l4m3rx | as far as I remember it was only a 2 stop process for full flash. |
| 13:49.36 | l4m3rx | so I guess the script will work , but will do something two times... (maybe there's some hidden idea behind it..not sure) |
| 13:49.46 | kolp | Yes, no need to flash root twice |
| 13:50.06 | kolp | And no need to remove the battery |
| 13:50.52 | kolp | -R reboots |
| 13:51.02 | l4m3rx | btw i'm having a strange problem.... i cannot change my security code on the n900... it tells me 'security code not changed' after inputing (two times) the new one....any1 had issue like this? |
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| 13:52.46 | kolp | narcos: Removing the battery while rebooting is probabl not healthy for the device |
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| 14:01.22 | narcos | kolp: Thanks. I made the script after reading several different tutorials. |
| 14:01.38 | merlin1991 | ~flashing |
| 14:01.38 | infobot | hmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 14:01.53 | merlin1991 | the main and truly right resource ;) |
| 14:02.03 | narcos | yeah read that one, and a couple of others. I wrote the script some time ago, so forget why the double flash now. |
| 14:02.56 | merlin1991 | regarding double flash, probably: http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Flashing_the_eMMC_in_the_N900 |
| 14:03.23 | merlin1991 | so yeah the wiki tells you todo that :) |
| 14:04.40 | narcos | ahhh yes |
| 14:05.04 | kolp | so, without -R :) |
| 14:05.36 | sono | with -R for reboot; the wiki page still advises removing the battery, iirc |
| 14:06.31 | narcos | So the process works, and I flashed a few phones, but then I installed the PwnieExpress 'pwnphone' software, which fails with a big ugly optfs error |
| 14:06.36 | kolp | Well, it all depends on the order of things |
| 14:08.14 | l4m3rx | non GUI app to change the security code ? |
| 14:09.36 | merlin1991 | pwnieexpress seems to be so badly done, we get all kinds of complaints about it in here |
| 14:10.37 | narcos | merlin1991: Ahh, that sucks. And they don't seem to maintain it any longer. |
| 14:11.48 | merlin1991 | I don't see the point in using it anyways |
| 14:11.59 | l4m3rx | ^ +1 |
| 14:12.03 | merlin1991 | maemo + stuff from extras devel does everything |
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| 14:12.20 | merlin1991 | and if you want fancy new you can always attempt to get stuff running under nemo |
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| 14:13.26 | narcos | Yeah, I agree. Can just add all the tools manually. Was nice just having it all pre-done. |
| 14:13.38 | narcos | but now I have a non-booting device, so, bleh. |
| 14:14.18 | psycho_oreos | You could easily run pwnie express in a maemo chroot. Much less mess and headaches. I don't know why people still insist on installing pwnie express to their own base setup. |
| 14:14.34 | sono | in other news, i had a runaway process two days ago, the battery is actually good and still showing full after a day of nearly idle on 2G. |
| 14:14.39 | narcos | psycho_oreos: Hm, tell me more? |
| 14:14.47 | sono | so yea.. |
| 14:15.51 | psycho_oreos | narcos, I once had a maemo environment within a chroot. I basically extracted the contents from the fiasco of the rootfs and dumped them all into a normal "fs container". |
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| 14:16.48 | narcos | Hmm @ http://maemo.org/downloads/product/PC/770flasher/ - "You can?t open the application ?770Flasher? because PowerPC applications are no longer supported." |
| 14:16.56 | psycho_oreos | It's not perfect, pwnie express setup within chroot. You don't get to have the fancy kernel and kernel modules because it's all enclosed and heavily relies on maemo base. |
| 14:17.08 | narcos | psycho_oreos: Ahh ok |
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| 14:23.45 | narcos | finds maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2_i386.dmg |
| 14:24.43 | l4m3rx | .dmg ? |
| 14:24.45 | narcos | Seems that 's broken too |
| 14:25.11 | narcos | "However, since OS X Lion this installer hasn't worked completely. To make it work you need to install the .pkg from the .dmg and then execute the following commands:...." |
| 14:25.17 | narcos | l4m3rx: yeah, for OSX |
| 14:25.48 | l4m3rx | Oh... strange combination ..osx & n900 ... :) |
| 14:25.56 | narcos | heh |
| 14:26.00 | narcos | It would seem so. |
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| 14:30.53 | narcos | Rwwwarrrr. Let's try from a Linux VM then. This seems dangerous. |
| 14:31.19 | l4m3rx | not if you passthrou one of the USBs |
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| 14:34.13 | narcos | Pass through is pretty good with VMWare |
| 14:34.17 | narcos | It is shitty with VirtualBox |
| 14:35.03 | l4m3rx | qemu/kvm FTW :) |
| 14:37.48 | narcos | Seems to be working so far, with that hack of a script I wrote :) |
| 14:38.55 | narcos | If I wanted to 'fix' the PwnPhone setup, what would I do? |
| 14:39.01 | narcos | I mean the general direction |
| 14:41.16 | l4m3rx | rewrite it |
| 14:41.17 | l4m3rx | :) |
| 14:41.51 | narcos | heh, yes |
| 14:42.03 | l4m3rx | jk ^. not even sure what the issues with pwnphone are :) I've never had the need to install it. |
| 14:42.11 | narcos | I mean, shall I take a stock N900, install power kernel + all appropriate tools, and then somehow image it? |
| 14:43.25 | l4m3rx | It will probably be best just to make meta package containing all the stuff in it (probably 90% of the packages are already in the repo) |
| 14:44.12 | l4m3rx | and be sure move all stuff to /opt so it dosnt waste space on the root patition |
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| 14:46.14 | narcos | Hmm - meta package you say. Could you elaborate? So, a package that when I install, will infall a bunch of other packages? |
| 14:46.56 | l4m3rx | meta packages is..... well , package containing few other packages (a pretty stupid way to explain it but you'll understand what I mean) |
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| 14:48.55 | l4m3rx | In reality the meta pacakge itself dosnt contain any packages...it just has deps on all packages you want him to "contain" |
| 14:48.57 | sono | just a package with dependencies that pulls in what you need, really. optionally with more glue |
| 14:49.29 | l4m3rx | y...sono explaind it better :) |
| 14:50.44 | narcos | ok cool |
| 14:51.02 | narcos | Well, my script worked. |
| 14:51.10 | narcos | Without the final flash there were no icons, which is weird? |
| 14:51.16 | narcos | But, 3rd flash worked. |
| 14:51.44 | l4m3rx | 3rd time's the charm :P |
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| 15:00.24 | narcos | Hm, now the N900 is not seeing any wifi networks |
| 15:01.21 | l4m3rx | remove and then reload the wifi module. It may help. |
| 15:01.44 | narcos | How do I do that? The drivers? |
| 15:06.07 | l4m3rx | MMm... if you have "advanced interface switcher" or what whas the package's name .... (a menu shit witch adds possability to turn on/off wifi, bt and gsm) you can use it |
| 15:06.24 | l4m3rx | this is the GUI way to do it ...the CLI is : rmmod (modname) |
| 15:06.25 | narcos | ifconfig lists the wlan0 device, odd |
| 15:06.28 | l4m3rx | and then modprobe (modname) |
| 15:06.46 | l4m3rx | ifconfig should list it. |
| 15:07.04 | l4m3rx | iwconfig and ifconfig are used to config different things. So they both display the wifi adapters |
| 15:07.50 | narcos | k will try modprobing |
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| 15:10.12 | narcos | Does an ssh server come running my default? I can't remember. I've configured the usb0 device, but can't seem to ping or ssh in |
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| 15:11.09 | kolp | narcos: nope |
| 15:11.10 | l4m3rx | nope |
| 15:11.18 | user_ | wth |
| 15:11.20 | l4m3rx | i think its not even installed by default |
| 15:11.36 | narcos | dang |
| 15:11.50 | MaceN900 | how does nick completion without tab work in xchat? |
| 15:12.10 | MaceN900 | shouldnt it just be (partial nick), |
| 15:12.18 | MaceN900 | and it should send the nick? |
| 15:12.28 | MaceN900 | narcos: ? |
| 15:12.35 | MaceN900 | oh. it worked there. weird |
| 15:13.31 | narcos | raises an eyebrow @ MaceN900 |
| 15:13.47 | MaceN900 | sorry. testing it |
| 15:13.53 | MaceN900 | infobot: word |
| 15:13.53 | infobot | word is probably in reference to Robert Bork, a nominee to the Supreme Court who, despite being very qualified was not appointed to the court due to partisan reasons. |
| 15:13.55 | MaceN900 | odd |
| 15:14.09 | MaceN900 | robert bork hahahah |
| 15:14.14 | narcos | Hm, and there's no ssh server in the default repos? |
| 15:14.30 | MaceN900 | i thought openssh was there |
| 15:14.37 | MaceN900 | server and client |
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| 15:14.44 | MaceN900 | bbl |
| 15:14.47 | narcos | I seem to remember there was a magic URL that when surfed to would add a bunch of nice repos? |
| 15:15.03 | narcos | MaceN900: 'apt-cache search ssh' suspiciously returns 0 rows |
| 15:15.23 | MaceN900 | openssh - Secure shell client and server |
| 15:15.29 | MaceN900 | er....? |
| 15:15.37 | MaceN900 | did you update to cssu? |
| 15:15.51 | MaceN900 | and is extras enabled? |
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| 15:15.57 | MaceN900 | sorry.. have to go |
| 15:15.58 | narcos | Just booted a fresh flashed device - haven't done anything yet :-. |
| 15:16.36 | kolp | narcos: openssh seems to be in extras-devel |
| 15:16.44 | narcos | ah |
| 15:17.04 | kolp | narcos: dropbear, too |
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| 15:21.56 | narcos | kolp: I seem to remember a URL that when browsed to would add a bunch of useful repos. Do you know it? |
| 15:21.59 | narcos | !repos |
| 15:23.38 | kolp | narcos: Nope, sorry |
| 15:25.58 | narcos | kk |
| 15:26.01 | narcos | Googles harder |
| 15:28.14 | sono | ~repositories |
| 15:28.14 | infobot | repositories are frequently old. |
| 15:28.17 | sono | =p |
| 15:28.25 | sono | ~maemo-devel |
| 15:28.32 | sono | shrugs |
| 15:28.37 | sono | hometime |
| 15:30.00 | narcos | :) |
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| 15:32.34 | narcos | will try again later. Gotta go too. |
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| 16:42.24 | brolin_empey | freemangordon: Pali: Any news regarding my 2 patches to kernel-power? |
| 16:42.43 | freemangordon | brolin_empey: Pali's laptop is back in function :) |
| 16:42.54 | Pali | brolin_empey: will look at it |
| 16:43.08 | Pali | now playing with cssu |
| 16:43.21 | Pali | I cannot do everything at same time |
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| 16:53.25 | Pali | please paste output of this command run on n900: dpkg -L osso-memory-backend | grep include |
| 16:53.56 | Pali | need to know what is on stock maemo, cssu stable, cssu testing and other versions too |
| 16:54.06 | freemangordon | Nokia-N900:~# dpkg -L osso-memory-backend | grep include |
| 16:54.08 | freemangordon | /usr/include |
| 16:54.10 | freemangordon | /usr/include/gtkfilesystemmemory |
| 16:54.12 | freemangordon | /usr/include/gtkfilesystemmemory/gtkfilesystemmemory.h |
| 16:54.29 | freemangordon | this is cssu-thumb :P |
| 16:54.32 | Pali | merlin1991, freemangordon, DocScrutinizer05, kerio ^^^^ |
| 16:54.35 | Pali | thanks |
| 16:54.44 | freemangordon | Pali: I guess only DocScrutinizer05 have stock device |
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| 16:54.59 | Pali | this needs to be fixed, header file should not be on production device automatically |
| 16:55.09 | Pali | and osso-memory-backend is core maemo package |
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| 16:57.30 | kerio | Pali: same as fmg |
| 16:57.39 | Pali | ok |
| 16:57.45 | Pali | so this is definitly bug |
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| 17:07.06 | sat2050 | hi |
| 17:07.14 | sat2050 | can some one help me with my n900 wifi |
| 17:07.23 | sat2050 | I am able to scan the networks well |
| 17:07.34 | sat2050 | wifiinfo also shows good signal quality |
| 17:07.40 | sat2050 | but not able to connect to them |
| 17:07.48 | sat2050 | only if i keep n900 very close to the router |
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| 17:07.53 | sat2050 | practically touching it |
| 17:07.58 | sat2050 | then it is able to connect |
| 17:08.01 | sat2050 | please help |
| 17:08.21 | sat2050 | I still dont think the hardware is screwed because scanning works perfectly fine |
| 17:09.23 | sat2050 | anyone who can help me with this |
| 17:09.24 | sat2050 | ?? |
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| 17:10.39 | sat2050 | any experienced users here? |
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| 17:17.08 | sat2050 | help please |
| 17:17.10 | sat2050 | someone |
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| 17:28.03 | Woody14619 | sat2050, probably best to make a post on talk.maemo.org for help on this. |
| 17:33.13 | sat2050 | Woody14619: ok thanks |
| 17:37.59 | FatPhil | maemo.org/downloads/ should not require javascript just to show a full-sized version of a screenshot, IMHO |
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| 19:25.42 | ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/17/ollia_memoirs/ |
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| 19:47.29 | Pali | I will push fixed gtkfilesystemmemory/osso-memory-backend package to git on cssu gitorious and to cssu-devel |
| 19:47.44 | Pali | header files will be in new package osso-memory-backend-dev |
| 19:47.52 | Pali | so not on n900 device anymore |
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| 19:56.57 | Pali | done |
| 19:57.06 | Pali | merlin1991, freemangordon ^^^^ |
| 19:57.49 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/gtkfilesystemmemory/commits/master |
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