| 00:14.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | jonwil: pong |
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| 02:52.47 | jonwil | btw DocScruitinizer05, what you were saying the other day about replacing the contacts/addressbook app, that would involve replacing osso-addressbook, libosso-abook or both. |
| 02:52.58 | jonwil | likely libosso-abook (which does have a -dev package btw) |
| 02:53.39 | jonwil | I am seeing now which functions osso-addressbook and libosso-abook call that we have no documentation for |
| 02:56.03 | jonwil | The only dbus interfaces osso-abook deals with are com.nokia.osso_addressbook (which it exposes) and com.nokia.ascntui (which it talks to) |
| 02:59.22 | jonwil | oh wait it also talks to com.nokia.bt_ui |
| 03:00.28 | jonwil | also com.nokia.CallUI.HandleMMICode |
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| 03:00.40 | jonwil | com.nokia.calendar.open_bday_event |
| 03:01.23 | jonwil | com.nokia.phone.SIM.get_imsi |
| 03:01.39 | jonwil | com.nokia.phone.net.get_operator_name |
| 03:01.46 | jonwil | com.nokia.phone.SIM.get_service_provider_name |
| 03:02.35 | jonwil | com.nokia.PresenceUI.StartUp |
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| 03:21.13 | jonwil | 'ok, the only function osso-abook calls that we have no definition for is AsConfigAccountExists |
| 03:21.14 | maemo | . |
| 03:21.19 | jonwil | checking libosso-abook now |
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| 03:38.36 | jonwil | ok, so its just the one undocumented function |
| 03:39.42 | jonwil | and AsConfigAccountExists looks simple in what it does (takes a string and returns an int or bool) |
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| 06:10.14 | Pali | jonwil: are you going to RE abook? |
| 06:13.12 | jonwil | no I am not |
| 06:13.30 | jonwil | I just investigated the details in case there was something undocumented that might need documenting if someone wanted to write a replacement |
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| 06:18.40 | Pali | ok |
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| 06:24.24 | jonwil | is there something you can think of that I should be looking into? |
| 06:25.07 | jonwil | I would dig further into pulseaudio-nokia but I know nothing about pulseaudio, nothing about sound systems and nothing about the kind of audio processing pulseaudio-nokia is doing |
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| 09:06.09 | XATRIX | How can i tune my browser, to make it report mobile user-agent ? |
| 09:06.13 | XATRIX | Or something like this |
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| 09:10.09 | wnd | set about:config -> general.useragent.vendor , perhaps |
| 09:11.52 | XATRIX | hm...any userfriendly way ? |
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| 09:29.20 | zammy | is there some finger print app? |
| 09:29.22 | zammy | XD |
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| 09:58.42 | XATRIX | :) |
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| 10:55.49 | troulouliou_dev | hi IS t planned to release a few neo900 mobo to those people that want to port maemo5 to it ? |
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| 17:31.59 | tomreyn | hi there. i'm running maemo with community ssu 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo8.2 on an n900 and for a while now i'm having trouble with incoming calls and SMS not making the phone ring *sometimes* |
| 17:32.18 | tomreyn | is this a known problem, or is this specific to me? |
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| 17:36.23 | Sysaxed | tomreyn, hmm, I feel like I had this problem several times |
| 17:36.29 | Sysaxed | but I am not sure |
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| 17:37.20 | tomreyn | Sysaxed: i bet you would know if it happened to you as regularly as it does to me |
| 17:38.28 | tomreyn | (that's unless you're no longer using it and it's a while ago) |
| 17:38.44 | Sysaxed | how can I know if it is my phone? Maybe it's just that I'm deaf |
| 17:39.47 | Sysaxed | and I love to ignore calls... Maybe I simply don't remember that there was a call that I ignored? |
| 17:40.06 | Sysaxed | n900 is the last thing that I would like to blame.. |
| 17:40.20 | tomreyn | well, i repeatedly missed calls and sms because of this while i know i was sitting next to the phone which was lying on the table, and the battery was fine. |
| 17:40.34 | tomreyn | oh and the call indicator light does flash |
| 17:41.01 | tomreyn | also the screen activates, just audio is missing |
| 17:41.23 | tomreyn | and vibration, too |
| 17:41.47 | tomreyn | so neither sound nor vibration works then |
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| 20:07.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | tomreyn: *might* be related to some obscure pulseaudio "bugfixes" that recently got introduced to CSSU |
| 20:08.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | OR to mce and accelerometer and "mute by turning screen downwards" (would assume that you have enabled that option) |
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| 20:10.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | in Samsunng OMNIA I had a funny problem that caused mp3 audio via BT headset to show unbearable dropouts whenever I wlaked with device in pocket. It turned out the mute-when-face-down function muted the mp3 BT playback on every step I did, since device thought it was oriented screen-down for a few milliseconds X-P |
| 20:11.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | walked* |
| 20:28.33 | tomreyn | DocScrutinizer05: can you point me to where to find the "mute by turning screen downwards" option? |
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| 20:31.09 | tomreyn | i would expect to find it in profile settings but there is no such option there |
| 20:31.23 | M4rtinK | OOPS, looks like modRana 0.43.3 didn't really have all the commits that should have been there (about two weeks of commits didn't make it in due to packaging glitch) |
| 20:31.47 | M4rtinK | upgrade to 0.43.4 is therefore recommended :) |
| 20:33.44 | dos1 | for all of you with facebook accounts: https://www.facebook.com/neo900 |
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| 20:50.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | tomreyn: wow, I must have been dreaming |
| 20:51.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | tomreyn: I can't spot any option to select or enable/disable "mute when face down" |
| 20:52.16 | tomreyn | yeah i cant remember ever hitting it either |
| 20:53.08 | tomreyn | thanks for trying to help, though ;-) |
| 20:56.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, it just means you can't disable that function, which makes it a tiny bit more likely to be the culprit for the erratic behaviour you observe |
| 20:57.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | what you could do: check ypur accelerometer with a tool like spirit level or accelerometer tester |
| 20:58.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/liqacceltests/ |
| 20:58.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | in memoriam Gary Birkett |
| 20:59.43 | xes | tomreyn: DocScrutinizer05: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=56566 |
| 21:02.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | xes: right, it won't silence a call when it already *is* (thinking it's) face-down |
| 21:02.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | so my idea of an explanation won't fly |
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| 21:04.47 | tomreyn | hmm yeah it's just for snoozing during incoming call |
| 21:05.57 | xes | ..at least is a good starting point ;) |
| 21:06.12 | tomreyn | i was thinking maybe it's surveillance and they 'just' fail to do it properly. but that'd be a lot of failure. |
| 21:06.34 | tomreyn | yes thanks for digging up that post. |
| 21:10.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you need more "useful hinting babbling": taking long term protocols of d-bus (use dbus-monitor) plus syslog should reveal what's going on |
| 21:27.06 | tomreyn | thanks |
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| 21:51.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | tomreyn: do you have any "per contact ringtone" extension installed? |
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| 21:58.08 | tomreyn | DocScrutinizer05: none |
| 21:58.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, "good" then it can't be that either |
| 21:59.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | it most probably as well can't be PA since that wouldn't explain missing vibrator |
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| 22:00.46 | tomreyn | do you know whether the information on whether an incoming call / text message has been received and whether to sound the ring tone / sms received signal are passed down from the baseband module to the OS separately? |
| 22:02.15 | tomreyn | and thanks for heelping me rule things out :) |
| 22:03.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, the modem only talks to linux-land that an event occurred |
| 22:03.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's so called "unsolicited messages" |
| 22:04.34 | tomreyn | i get those by e-mail all the time |
| 22:04.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's like "RING: <phonenumber>" |
| 22:05.07 | tomreyn | i see. does this go into some system log? |
| 22:05.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | partially |
| 22:05.22 | tomreyn | what about text messages? |
| 22:05.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | depends on a few config settings, mainly around CSD |
| 22:05.42 | tomreyn | "TEXT: <phonenumber>" |
| 22:05.45 | tomreyn | ? |
| 22:05.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | SMS all the same, basically |
| 22:05.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 22:06.18 | tomreyn | hmm but the phone has to ring until the caller hangs up (or the call is received) |
| 22:06.28 | tomreyn | so actually more info needs to be passed, no? |
| 22:06.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's a tad more complicated with SMS since they can get stored inside modem until the AP side is fetching them |
| 22:07.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | with calls there is another unsolicited msg that tells AP that modem inboung call quit |
| 22:08.37 | tomreyn | i see, thanks for explaining |
| 22:08.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can watch all this on d-bus |
| 22:09.01 | tomreyn | i'm not really into d-bus |
| 22:09.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | check out dbus-monitor |
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| 22:10.33 | tomreyn | will do soon |
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