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| 00:11.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe |
| 00:12.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | on a sidenote: in ~4 weeks the current council term ends |
| 00:13.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | would be nice to have working karma until then |
| 00:41.16 | mashina | ugh, if only we had cheap carrier |
| 00:42.25 | mashina | i'm paying $10.75 for 100MB a month prepaid |
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| 01:37.15 | Sc0rpius | I wonder if there's a wiki or something with the packages installed in a stock PR1.3 Nokia N900 |
| 01:37.26 | Sc0rpius | the whole big list of packages that come preinstalled in the phone |
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| 02:20.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | dpkg -l ? |
| 02:25.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/40cfc7bc32 though that's not exactly a stock system anymore |
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| 07:36.22 | DrCode | hi all |
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| 07:36.38 | DrCode | I don;t know what to do |
| 07:36.59 | DrCode | to install android in n900 ? |
| 07:37.06 | DrCode | can memo run android apps? |
| 07:39.24 | psycho_oreos | 1) Old (possibly un-maintained) android versions and you need to make u-boot kernel (and hope it'll work) 2) No. |
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| 07:52.56 | DrCode | hi |
| 07:53.21 | DrCode | I don't know if to use only memo or android |
| 07:53.27 | DrCode | I have some missing apps in memo |
| 07:53.37 | DrCode | what do U think ? |
| 07:54.13 | psycho_oreos | At your knowledge level, I'd say you wouldn't be ready for android anytime soon. |
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| 07:54.44 | psycho_oreos | Rather android on N900. |
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| 08:01.08 | DrCode | I see |
| 08:01.17 | DrCode | I read about nitroid , so I thote to use it? |
| 08:02.41 | psycho_oreos | I don't know what "thote" means. nitdroid is basically android ported to N900, it is not a simple drop-in solution and it does not work with every hardware functionality N900 has to offer. |
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| 08:28.47 | DrCode | I see |
| 08:28.53 | DrCode | thanks |
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| 09:25.57 | Mentha | hi there, need some help here :) |
| 09:27.44 | Mentha | I've been using the n900 with qt-mobile-hotspot as a modem for quite some while and it worked like a charm on all my machines, until it stopped today :/ |
| 09:28.40 | Mentha | but just on my ubuntu 12.10 pc, where there some kernel-changes that rendered the hotspot unusable or might it something else? |
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| 11:01.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | rethinks about topic |
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| 16:44.37 | troulouliou_dev | are there n900 owner here that still consider N900 has the only yet suitable phone atm ? |
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| 16:58.20 | NIN101 | troulouliou_dev: yes, a few of them, including me. though, with NeoN900 there is hope for a true successor. |
| 16:58.49 | troulouliou_dev | NIN101, ha cool i missed the news, checking now.. |
| 16:59.33 | troulouliou_dev | NIN101, any link ? |
| 17:00.04 | NIN101 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142 |
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| 17:01.50 | troulouliou_dev | NIN101, awesome |
| 17:01.57 | troulouliou_dev | bigger screenwould benice too.. |
| 17:06.30 | troulouliou_dev | NIN101, the phone application / firmware are open source ?? |
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| 17:09.40 | NIN101 | no. |
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| 17:10.09 | troulouliou_dev | NIN101, even with shr/qtmoko ... |
| 17:12.20 | NIN101 | no way you get a full FOSS open source cell phone stack on N900, afaik. |
| 17:14.59 | troulouliou_dev | NIN101, do you think such project can be avilable in 2014 ? |
| 17:15.10 | troulouliou_dev | i mean neo900 |
| 17:16.18 | Pali | I'am also using n900 as daily phone... |
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| 17:17.03 | troulouliou_dev | Pali, do you browse internet sites with it ? |
| 17:17.45 | dos1 | NIN101: SHR works on N900 |
| 17:17.50 | dos1 | somehow |
| 17:18.06 | Pali | now yes :-) my daily notebook is repairing |
| 17:18.18 | dos1 | it's probably not first class support, but basic stuff works and it's 100% FOSS |
| 17:18.49 | Pali | and I'am using usb ethernet card in host mode |
| 17:18.56 | troulouliou_dev | dos1, phone calls works ? |
| 17:19.18 | troulouliou_dev | Pali, really my dlink usbeth card never worked |
| 17:19.24 | Pali | with wpa_supplicant which is needed for 802.1x auth |
| 17:19.29 | troulouliou_dev | Pali, what browser do you use ? |
| 17:19.36 | dos1 | I recall there were some problems with poor audio quality |
| 17:19.39 | dos1 | but yes, it worked |
| 17:19.39 | Pali | classic browser |
| 17:20.17 | Pali | but with patched some parts... |
| 17:20.19 | troulouliou_dev | Pali, i still cant find a suitable browser for me .. and i find screen size a little bit too slow |
| 17:21.08 | troulouliou_dev | dos1, will check thanks |
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| 17:21.53 | dos1 | troulouliou_dev: but I don't know anything about current state, n900 images might be broken atm |
| 17:22.37 | troulouliou_dev | dos1, i jsut never heard of it before 10 min ago :) i think i ll buy a gta04 phone right now with SHR |
| 17:23.19 | Pali | hm, is nokia eapd daemon supporting EAPOL on wired interfaces? |
| 17:23.44 | Pali | or only wireless wl1251? |
| 17:24.43 | Pali | it is bad that I need two daemons (eapd and wpa_supplicant) which doing same thing |
| 17:25.23 | Pali | but nokias icd2 can use only eapd and I did not find way how to use eapd with wired ethernet... |
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| 17:29.09 | troulouliou_dev | Pali, so the host kernel/patch can work with any device, not only usb flash/disk ? |
| 17:31.37 | Pali | yes |
| 17:31.50 | Pali | with any device which has kernel driver in 2.6.28 |
| 17:33.09 | Pali | but for some you need usb hub with external power supply |
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| 17:46.44 | DrCode | hi al |
| 17:46.53 | DrCode | any one know about this project: Myriad Alien Dalvik |
| 17:47.12 | DrCode | I am looking for android VM under memo |
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| 18:03.41 | Pali | does anybody know any other EAPOL implementation for linux (except wpa_supplicant)? |
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| 18:19.07 | eichi | i think my n900 died yesterday :( R.I.P |
| 18:20.19 | joga | noo :( |
| 18:22.31 | eichi | it was just ideling, then it shutdown and now there a millions if inode errors in ext3 dont thing, this is a fs problem, maybe, but i thing the flash driver died |
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| 18:30.00 | Pali | ext3 is on eMMC |
| 18:30.16 | Pali | and maybe only fs corruption |
| 18:30.34 | Pali | do full reflash (both combined and emmc) |
| 18:30.40 | eichi | I will reflash it tommorow then i will se |
| 18:30.42 | Sysaxed | does anybody know any good electronic circuit simulation software? Or maybe simple schematic editor? Preferably multiplatform or at least capable of exporting to popular formats |
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| 18:47.47 | ShadowJK | ltspice? |
| 18:47.55 | ShadowJK | qucs? |
| 18:48.40 | ShadowJK | and what's that online javascript one... circuitlab.com? |
| 18:54.31 | Sysaxed | I can't find a linux version of ltspice |
| 18:54.42 | Sysaxed | and qucs version looks scary 0.0.17 |
| 19:03.42 | ShadowJK | :) |
| 19:04.16 | ShadowJK | ltspice is generally ok in wine |
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| 20:11.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | I thought spice is available for linux as well? Also: eagle |
| 20:11.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | for simple schematics editor |
| 20:12.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | and what been that other editor? diag? |
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| 20:14.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | dia |
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| 20:31.15 | psycho_oreos | Seems like the inquirer left. |
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| 20:59.40 | useretail | hey, does anyone have patches for 3.x.x kernel? |
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| 21:06.45 | psycho_oreos | It's on the github. |
| 21:16.27 | useretail | which one? do you have a link? |
| 21:19.24 | psycho_oreos | Correction, gitorious, not github: http://gitorious.org/linux-n900 |
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| 22:08.33 | phobos` | hey guys |
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| 22:08.57 | phobos` | my /var/run/resolv.conf has this written in it |
| 22:09.12 | phobos` | nameserver 172.16.13.219 |
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| 22:09.25 | phobos` | nameserver 203.82.48.3 |
| 22:09.29 | phobos` | is this normal |
| 22:09.44 | phobos` | cuz my gprs is not working on n900, just stopped working a lil while back |
| 22:09.58 | psycho_oreos | It's whatever your DHCP provider gave for your resolv.conf. |
| 22:10.06 | psycho_oreos | There's a thread on maemo.org. |
| 22:10.13 | phobos` | the /etc/resolv.conf contains 127.0.0.1 |
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| 22:10.41 | phobos` | ok can i just delete all these enntries wil they be created auto if i restart device? |
| 22:10.44 | psycho_oreos | That's localhost, also dnsmasq does that.. It adds 127.0.0.1 to the head of /etc/resolv.conf |
| 22:11.43 | psycho_oreos | They should be created automatically pending on dnsmasq (which normally should be at boot) and then DHCP via networking. |
| 22:12.24 | phobos` | hmm |
| 22:12.37 | phobos` | ok i'll take a copy of these delete entries |
| 22:12.41 | psycho_oreos | If there's no networks connected chances are there would be no extra lines below 'nameserver 127.0.0.1'. |
| 22:14.01 | psycho_oreos | bets your router would have told your N900 those extra nameservers. |
| 22:14.07 | phobos` | in /etc/resolv.conf there is nothing but the 127.0.0.1 |
| 22:14.26 | psycho_oreos | Yeah, again.. dnsmasq. |
| 22:15.50 | psycho_oreos | If you just rebooted your device and have re-connected back onto the network. After you got your DHCP lease, you don't see any extra entries below that line, chances are you most likely would have set those yourself. |
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| 22:16.08 | phobos` | hm |
| 22:22.25 | phobos` | the device rebooted its conneting to internet now |
| 22:22.49 | phobos` | but all the entries are same everywhere, the /var/run/resolv.conf has again got the same IPs |
| 22:22.54 | phobos` | but things r now working |
| 22:23.44 | psycho_oreos | doesn't know what was not working before. |
| 22:23.51 | phobos` | lol |
| 22:24.01 | phobos` | device cudnt access the internet :) |
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| 22:24.27 | psycho_oreos | That sounds like a rather vague/open-ended question. |
| 22:24.59 | psycho_oreos | 1) No gateway defined? 2) Firewall issues? 3) DNS not working/resolving? |
| 22:25.10 | phobos` | no idea |
| 22:25.54 | psycho_oreos | I'd say learn some more stuff about networking, ideally stuff to do with using the right tools to diagnose under linux. |
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| 23:10.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm |
| 23:10.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | is ping in messybox? |
| 23:13.15 | nox- | symlink to busybox here yeah |
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| 23:34.13 | ecc3g | anyone make busybox suid root, so ping would work? :o |
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| 23:34.42 | nox- | i just run ping as root |
| 23:35.21 | ecc3g | on one of my embedded boxes, I chmod +s busybox :o |
| 23:35.30 | nox- | heh |
| 23:36.26 | ecc3g | the busybox guys did spend some effort making sure it drops root right away for most things so it's not as bad as one would think |
| 23:39.14 | ecc3g | (besides, how else would su->busybox work? :o |
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