| 00:01.34 | *** join/#maemo lexik (~alex@ip-213-220-235-252.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 00:08.36 | lexik | wtf? what is it now? apkenv? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1371026#post1371026 |
| 00:09.45 | lexik | captcha is not enough? or what is the problem? |
| 00:10.29 | ecc3g | captcha is never enough |
| 00:12.57 | lexik | this bot seems stupid.. it is posting football sh*t stuff on maemo-linux related forum... |
| 00:13.03 | ecc3g | seems like the fallacy of captcha is that one thinks it can remain static... no, it needs to be dynamic... |
| 00:13.53 | ecc3g | nah, dont think the bot really cares... It may not even be a bot, possibly - they do have people breaking captchas for profit |
| 00:15.50 | lexik | bot really dont cares :D |
| 00:16.02 | ecc3g | exactly. |
| 00:16.22 | ecc3g | it may even be a person too, for all we know |
| 00:16.32 | ecc3g | and that person still doesn't care |
| 00:16.41 | lexik | person who hates TMO :P |
| 00:17.17 | ecc3g | not necessarily, person who hates to pay money to advertise more likely? |
| 00:18.23 | lexik | .. the blog it is pointing on, is about nothing - as the spam on forum |
| 00:20.13 | ecc3g | there are people out there that would do anything to advertise... I had a website that prints out browser agents on a webpage. I have subsequently stopped doing it - even after "santizing" it - because bots started getting smart and putting links in it for google to index |
| 00:20.34 | lexik | and especially this post is really weird: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91241 ; it looks like it is trying to grab email adresses |
| 00:22.00 | ecc3g | (actually I stopped publishing that website because my uplink bandwidth started increasing because the number of unique agents kept on increasing) |
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| 00:23.07 | ecc3g | I also had a forum running. Bots cracked the default captcha. I changed the captcha slightly - and was unharmed by bots for almost a year... then they came back |
| 00:23.12 | ecc3g | it's frustrating. |
| 00:24.39 | ecc3g | hmm... I just thought of a new captcha to do...too bad the forum has no use really... |
| 00:25.05 | RiD | make it a puzzle |
| 00:25.23 | ecc3g | all it needs to be is unique |
| 00:25.46 | ecc3g | the more popular the website, the more often it needs to be changed. |
| 00:25.52 | RiD | hm |
| 00:26.16 | ecc3g | if you have a less popular site, you can get away with changing the captcha less frequently... |
| 00:27.01 | ecc3g | just too bad that most people dont program, they just grab the software, be it vbulletin or phpbb or simplemachines, and implement it... |
| 00:27.29 | RiD | simplemachines, ugh |
| 00:28.03 | ecc3g | I'm not even sure which ones are OSS except for phpbb. |
| 00:28.12 | ecc3g | phpbb is nice because of that... |
| 00:28.25 | RiD | i like phpbb |
| 00:29.20 | lexik | ive tried to install newer cmake in scratchbox, and i have stucked on: |
| 00:29.23 | lexik | E: The package emacsen-common needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 00:29.32 | ecc3g | kind of funny, centurylink (a US telco) had a phpbb3 forum for customers. they shut it down because they couldn't stop the spam |
| 00:29.43 | lexik | when i was trying to install dependencies |
| 00:30.16 | lexik | i cant do anything apt-get |
| 00:30.22 | lexik | grr |
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| 00:43.01 | DocScrutinizer51 | still new spam accounts? |
| 00:43.47 | lexik | now everything looks ok.. now.. |
| 00:44.02 | RiD | i like to think of them as angry iphone users :D |
| 00:44.37 | lexik | Elop gets angry when he saw our Neo900 project |
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| 00:50.24 | lexik | DocScrutinizer51: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1371052#post1371052 :-/ |
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| 00:51.20 | RiD | lexik elop trying to flop |
| 00:51.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | another spam? |
| 00:52.26 | RiD | affirmative, capn' |
| 00:52.27 | lexik | yes |
| 00:52.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | when account created? |
| 00:53.24 | RiD | today. |
| 00:53.32 | DocScrutinizer51 | sure |
| 00:53.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | but 1 or 20h ago? |
| 00:54.18 | RiD | " Today 08:46 PM" |
| 00:54.22 | RiD | i guess Lisbon time |
| 00:54.43 | DocScrutinizer51 | afaik account creaion on tmo should be blocked |
| 00:54.55 | lexik | it is his first post.. |
| 00:55.20 | RiD | temporary or permanently? lol |
| 00:55.48 | lexik | TMO is full, go away :D |
| 00:55.50 | DocScrutinizer51 | I cant do much except take down tmo completely |
| 00:56.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | chemist doesnt like me around as admin on tmo |
| 00:57.15 | RiD | go ahead |
| 00:57.20 | RiD | take down tmo |
| 00:57.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | REALLY? |
| 00:57.49 | lexik | ... |
| 00:57.52 | lexik | wait. |
| 00:57.55 | RiD | ask infobot |
| 00:58.09 | RiD | what does she think about this situation |
| 00:58.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | dafaq |
| 00:58.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | I gomm |
| 00:58.35 | DocScrutinizer51 | gonna ban you |
| 00:58.47 | RiD | hey hey, why |
| 00:58.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | for ruining my sexual life |
| 00:59.03 | lexik | infobot is "she" ? interesting |
| 00:59.03 | RiD | WHAT |
| 00:59.38 | DocScrutinizer51 | I honestly got netter things to do at saturday night |
| 01:00.02 | RiD | i see... was it supposed to be a strictly professional relationship |
| 01:00.02 | lexik | infobot ^^.. hi, today you are looking awesome! as always! |
| 01:00.02 | infobot | lexik: what are you talking about? |
| 01:00.16 | RiD | but it ended up being...more |
| 01:01.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | afk, dont dare to highlight me |
| 01:03.41 | RiD | DecScrotinozor15 |
| 01:04.30 | lexik | it looks like emacsen-common in extras-devel is broken.. i will test it on real device.. |
| 01:08.24 | lexik | cmake depends on cmake-data which depends on emacsen-common... i hate that :D |
| 01:16.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | (<RiD> make it a puzzle) actualy a nice idea |
| 01:16.56 | RiD | use the maemo logo :p |
| 01:17.40 | RiD | i've seen a few forums use puzzles |
| 01:17.49 | lexik | YEAAAH! cmake --version |
| 01:17.56 | lexik | cmake version 2.8.9 |
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| 01:18.22 | lexik | ok, now the FANNy part |
| 01:20.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | what now? take tmo down or not? |
| 01:21.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | to me it seems tmo admins do a pretty good job |
| 01:21.46 | lexik | ...but.. will it help? |
| 01:21.54 | RiD | did you seriously consider taking it down? lol |
| 01:22.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | links to threads on tmo you posted here 45min ago are not valid anymore |
| 01:22.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | RiD: taking down tmo costs me 8seconds |
| 01:22.34 | RiD | and turning it back again? |
| 01:22.45 | lexik | but there are new one's.. such as: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1371052#post1371052 |
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| 01:23.22 | lexik | when do you plan you will turn it up? |
| 01:23.26 | RiD | mental, gabdul3 |
| 01:23.53 | lexik | after 1h? after 1 day? until you will fix captcha? |
| 01:24.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | here you are, tmo paused |
| 01:25.13 | Wulfe | ... |
| 01:25.19 | lexik | :/..okey |
| 01:25.22 | Wulfe | hey, i was reading that |
| 01:26.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | new, do you wanna continue joking, or are we going to discuss threat defense? |
| 01:26.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | now* |
| 01:26.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | you already ruined my date for today |
| 01:27.16 | Wulfe | dont put us in the middle of your war. i was trying to find some answers...... |
| 01:27.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | Wulfe: you seem a sane person. Should I unpause tmo? |
| 01:27.44 | lexik | "your war"? its our war |
| 01:27.57 | Wulfe | please do =p |
| 01:28.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | Wulfe: or is there severe thread that needs taking down of tmo? |
| 01:28.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | threat even |
| 01:28.21 | Wulfe | i would like to continue my hunt for some resolution to youtube-dl-x |
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| 01:28.41 | RiD | there's no explicit stuff that i know. just football/golf |
| 01:28.53 | Wulfe | i have seen nothing on tmo that warrents removal |
| 01:29.07 | lexik | Wulfe: ?! |
| 01:29.13 | Wulfe | everythign looks to me to be in the correct threads. |
| 01:29.30 | lexik | Spam about football in "general"? |
| 01:29.36 | lexik | for example? |
| 01:29.44 | Wulfe | oh i didnt see that |
| 01:29.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I think I will unpause it. obviously there are tmo moderators active handling the issue. as long as they don't ping me complaining about something, why should I be worried? |
| 01:29.59 | Wulfe | but tbh i chill in the diablo 4 and n810 threads |
| 01:30.56 | RiD | Wulfe old school! |
| 01:30.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | tmo running |
| 01:31.04 | Wulfe | indeed i am ;) |
| 01:31.17 | Wulfe | i love my 810 wimax <3 |
| 01:31.36 | Wulfe | although i wish it would run debian lxde better |
| 01:31.45 | lexik | and by today i love scratchbox! |
| 01:31.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | it seems "old school" is a compliment in old school circles, and an insult in hipster/youngster ones |
| 01:32.05 | Wulfe | lol |
| 01:32.17 | lexik | FANN library seems to be installed |
| 01:32.19 | Wulfe | well i am 36 so i am fine with it however they meant it |
| 01:32.33 | RiD | lol |
| 01:32.42 | RiD | no offense intended :p |
| 01:33.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | Wulfe: yeah, you're in between. I'm clearly way beyoind your little world |
| 01:33.37 | Wulfe | lol |
| 01:33.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | my beard turns gray |
| 01:35.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: PING |
| 01:35.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: PING |
| 01:36.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | pretty please could anybody check if it's still even *possible* to create new accounts on tmo? |
| 01:39.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you got no other pr0n to watch, look at http://monitor.maemo.org/ganglia/?r=hour&cs=&ce=&m=load_one&s=by+name&c=maemo&h=&host_regex=&max_graphs=0&tab=m&vn=&sh=2&z=small&hc=4 |
| 01:40.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | wtf?! a gap in scatchbox VM? |
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| 01:41.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed http://monitor.maemo.org/ganglia/?c=maemo&h=scratchbox&m=load_one&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2 |
| 01:42.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | please don't thing sysops do same things like normal users. |
| 01:42.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | think* |
| 01:43.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm depending on reports from you |
| 01:43.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | so.. please tell me... do we see new spam still? |
| 01:44.24 | Win7Mac | last one 5mins ago |
| 01:44.31 | Win7Mac | can't you see that? |
| 01:44.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks!!!! |
| 01:44.40 | Win7Mac | sure |
| 01:44.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't even try to see that, my setup doesn't allow me to "see that" |
| 01:45.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | link? |
| 01:45.36 | Win7Mac | ah, no |
| 01:45.49 | lexik | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1371061#post1371061 |
| 01:45.56 | lexik | 7 minutes old one |
| 01:45.58 | Win7Mac | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91259 |
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| 01:46.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | FFS |
| 01:46.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: PINGPINGPINGPING!!! |
| 01:46.34 | Win7Mac | asleep |
| 01:46.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | huh? gmt+8 |
| 01:47.21 | Win7Mac | having his coffee... |
| 01:48.13 | RiD | *sip* |
| 01:48.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, since I have no means to find out if some moderator or admin is fighting shit over there, and span obviously doesn't stop, I have no alternatives. I pause tmo |
| 01:48.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/span/spam/ |
| 01:48.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | tmo paused |
| 01:48.58 | Wulfe | i am good, i have found my answers |
| 01:49.01 | Wulfe | pause away |
| 01:49.40 | Wulfe | so tmo doesnt have a spam filter i take it? |
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| 01:52.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno. chemist doesn't want me around on tmo as admin, so all I can do is handling the machine as a blackbox. Blackbox stopped |
| 01:53.47 | Wulfe | seems as good of a solution as any. |
| 01:53.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | @tmo admins: ping me when you're ready to take care |
| 01:53.59 | Wulfe | atleast it will get the attention of an admin eventualy |
| 01:54.16 | Win7Mac | Doc, an interesting mail came in to board, just forwarded to you. Might come in handy... |
| 01:54.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | Win7Mac: subject? |
| 01:54.44 | Win7Mac | Maemo |
| 01:54.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | pfff |
| 01:55.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | my life == maemo |
| 01:55.21 | Win7Mac | i don't know what to answer |
| 01:55.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | maemo written on my toothpaste |
| 01:55.39 | Win7Mac | lol |
| 01:56.07 | mashina | DocScrutinizer05: so nokia strangled you in the crib? |
| 01:56.23 | Win7Mac | by any chance, saw my mail? what do you think about 501(c)3 status? |
| 01:56.31 | mashina | and your younger brother aborted late term? |
| 01:56.32 | Win7Mac | given? |
| 01:56.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | no new mail in my inbox |
| 01:56.46 | mashina | is bitter |
| 01:57.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | mashina: get yourself a good longdring! at least that's what I'm going to do right away |
| 01:57.46 | mashina | longdring? |
| 01:57.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh new mail |
| 01:57.51 | Win7Mac | Sent 31.08.2013 17:49, Topic: "Re: Fwd: Re: Sorting documents..." |
| 01:57.52 | mashina | is that a german word? |
| 01:57.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | longdrink* |
| 01:58.24 | mashina | germans took over irc over night and i have no idea what these words mean |
| 01:58.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | INTERSTING????????? |
| 01:59.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | MAIL???????????? |
| 01:59.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ***COUGH*** |
| 01:59.27 | Win7Mac | speak straight plz |
| 01:59.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | Hello Hildon Foundation ,My name is Nathanial, and I am 14 years old. My website i sLimestorm.com. I saw that Maemo was discontinued in favor of othe rmobile Linux distributions, but I think it was a mistake. |
| 02:00.05 | mashina | he's some drunk as fuck, as we say in the maritimes |
| 02:00.12 | mashina | both doc and nathan there |
| 02:00.28 | mashina | and it was a mistake |
| 02:00.45 | mashina | taylor swift could write sad songs about the murder of maemo |
| 02:01.01 | mashina | i may get a windows phone one day |
| 02:01.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | good night |
| 02:01.15 | mashina | but it won't be a nokia, grumblegrumble |
| 02:01.19 | mashina | guten nacht |
| 02:01.24 | mashina | im tired too |
| 02:01.25 | Win7Mac | i wouldn't refuse any help |
| 02:01.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | goes shooting own head with a marshmallow |
| 02:01.44 | Win7Mac | if he's got hours to spend... |
| 02:02.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | dude, *I* got *NO* hours to spend |
| 02:02.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | to educate youngsters# |
| 02:03.31 | Win7Mac | gee, what you expect me to do? thought i linked to the right one... |
| 02:03.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | or 50 year old , makes no differenceasheads |
| 02:03.50 | mashina | have you considered reefer? |
| 02:03.53 | Win7Mac | otherwise not much will happen i assume |
| 02:04.14 | mashina | devil's lettuce? slacker parsley? |
| 02:04.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly this 14yo is the skiddie that rapes tmo |
| 02:04.46 | mashina | script kitties |
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| 02:05.18 | mashina | an n810! |
| 02:05.27 | mashina | i have an n800 and n900 |
| 02:05.37 | mashina | i need n810 and 770 to completr my set |
| 02:05.44 | PocketNinja | <-- Wulfe |
| 02:05.58 | PocketNinja | i always am on my n810 |
| 02:06.05 | PocketNinja | =k |
| 02:06.15 | mashina | i liked my n800 but its kinda weak |
| 02:06.17 | PocketNinja | =)* |
| 02:06.18 | RiD | hehe, xchat |
| 02:06.23 | PocketNinja | ofc |
| 02:06.28 | mashina | love the n900 but i miss the screen of the n800 |
| 02:06.31 | PocketNinja | xchat rocks |
| 02:06.46 | mashina | that had the best brigtness adjust |
| 02:06.52 | mashina | it could actually go dim |
| 02:06.53 | Win7Mac | anyway Doc, 501c3 yes or no from your POV? other boardies don't dare to confirm... |
| 02:07.05 | mashina | and it was a nice size |
| 02:07.16 | mashina | but n800 had that damn awkwad to hold himp |
| 02:07.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | nfc, and not that I care a neutrino |
| 02:08.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | IANAL |
| 02:08.04 | mashina | Zzzzzzz |
| 02:08.11 | PocketNinja | only thing i wished they would have kept on the n810 was the fm radio |
| 02:08.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | in my world, HiFo is sth I better stay away from |
| 02:09.04 | Tekk_ | it does seem weird that the n900 has a fm transmitter but afaict no receiver |
| 02:09.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | HUH?? |
| 02:09.29 | RiD | Tekk_ it has a receiver |
| 02:09.33 | RiD | just not an app |
| 02:09.45 | Win7Mac | IANAL too, but I can tell you that a förderverein only works if you promote charitable associations |
| 02:10.29 | Win7Mac | ...which *still* has to be determined as it seems |
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| 02:10.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonders what's right sequence. Get proper longdrink, then headesk until it's empty. Or headesk until longdrink is too tempting |
| 02:10.51 | Win7Mac | if its the case with HiFo as of now |
| 02:11.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly I don't give a flying F. Take those 4kEUR and ram it up... |
| 02:11.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | my life won't change |
| 02:12.18 | PocketNinja | drink first aways |
| 02:12.28 | PocketNinja | makes it more fun |
| 02:16.40 | Win7Mac | buddy, conserve your head... And as it seems there is nothing to treasure for me until we have an e.v. |
| 02:17.17 | Win7Mac | Which I for one have decided to not be the treasurer for |
| 02:17.31 | Win7Mac | funding member yes |
| 02:17.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, I'm as interested in this topic as I am in growing pigs in pensylvania |
| 02:18.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm an EE, an *engineer*. Please google the term. Then google "hacker", "anarchist" |
| 02:19.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | I get an anaphylactic shock dealing with that stuff |
| 02:20.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | pparticularly since it seems HiFo can't do anything to make my life any easier |
| 02:20.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | so you do your thing, I do mine |
| 02:21.38 | Win7Mac | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclog/%23maemo-meeting.2013-07-16.log.html#t2013-07-16T22:31:51 |
| 02:22.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA82LYF64es |
| 02:24.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | I AM NOT AVAILABLE ANYMORE! |
| 02:25.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | thinks two weeks off time been waaay too short |
| 02:26.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe I should close all my accounts and look what became of this mess, in ~12..24 months |
| 02:26.58 | FIQ | tmo down? |
| 02:27.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 02:27.14 | Win7Mac | dude, i know. but if I can't come up with simple quenstions in order to get the things needed to be done right, what then? |
| 02:27.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | spam attack, no mainainers around to handle it |
| 02:27.26 | FIQ | ok |
| 02:27.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | then? then you ask somebody else |
| 02:27.58 | FIQ | though wouldn't blocking registration suffice? |
| 02:28.58 | FIQ | or at the very least, make it read only, but perhaps that's more cumbersome than just killing it |
| 02:29.01 | FIQ | oh well |
| 02:29.02 | FIQ | brb |
| 02:29.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | I thought it had been done, checked it and wasn't able to register. But nobody verified that when I asked for help, and instead they pointed me to a 7 minutes old spam thread |
| 02:29.17 | FIQ | ok |
| 02:30.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | tmo down until a maintainer aka moderator asks me to restart it |
| 02:31.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I won't discuss HiFo issues in between |
| 02:32.16 | Win7Mac | I don't discuss, I sent you a doc and asked about your opinion... but just forget it |
| 02:35.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | a doc? |
| 02:35.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, nevermind |
| 02:35.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | spam assassin will handle that |
| 02:37.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | feels like maemo's trashbin |
| 02:37.30 | Win7Mac | oh, now blacklisting me? |
| 02:37.52 | *** part/#maemo DocScrutinizer05 (~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 02:39.26 | lexik | # thats bad |
| 02:39.39 | Win7Mac | geez, why is he so pissed? Anyway, need some sleep now, gn |
| 02:39.52 | lexik | gn |
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| 03:33.52 | lexik | why is dh_make not present in my scratchbox -_- ?? |
| 03:46.08 | lexik | Ok, desn't matter. FANN (for now without python binding) is working. Tommorow i will try to upload it to the extras-devel |
| 03:49.09 | lexik | oooh... new FANN needs cmake2.8.. i will have to upload an old version which needs just classical ./configure; make; make install |
| 04:01.52 | jon_y | another project has fallen under the sway of hpsters |
| 04:02.13 | jon_y | *hipsters |
| 04:02.32 | lexik | ? :) |
| 04:02.41 | jon_y | my biggest grief with cmake is that there is no easy way to cross compile |
| 04:03.00 | jon_y | or use libtool |
| 04:03.13 | jon_y | or automake |
| 04:03.55 | jon_y | it's like an iPad, pretty with a GUI, but not very functional |
| 04:04.04 | lexik | i have successfly compiled FANN with cmake :) |
| 04:04.29 | jon_y | so how do you cross compile it? |
| 04:04.40 | lexik | in scatchbox |
| 04:04.47 | lexik | *scratchbox |
| 04:04.51 | jon_y | without scratchbox |
| 04:05.02 | jon_y | how do you tell it to --host=xxxx? |
| 04:05.19 | jon_y | oh wait, you can't, you need some kind of chroot |
| 04:06.06 | jon_y | and probably assume qemu-user is installed |
| 04:07.27 | jon_y | whatever new hipster buildsystems that pops up, is going to reinvent autotools poorly |
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| 04:08.38 | lexik | cmake was simply the simpliest way how to compile newest version of FANN... older, which im going to try to upload to extras-devel, can be compiled with clasical make |
| 04:09.55 | jon_y | sure, it's simple as wrapping everything in build.sh |
| 04:12.16 | lexik | python ./setup.py install :P |
| 04:12.27 | lexik | good night.. :) |
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| 10:45.57 | WizardNumberNext | hello. I am looking for good, fast uSD 64GB card for mine N900. obviously I would be "loading it up" on computer, so I do not care about N900 limitations in term of speed |
| 10:46.20 | WizardNumberNext | I know there are people here, who are testing cards for fun ;) |
| 10:46.44 | ShadowJK | Samsung Pro |
| 10:47.38 | WizardNumberNext | I was thinking about Samsung, as they are producing memory and other storage devices and their RAM is fast |
| 10:48.07 | WizardNumberNext | will SDXC work properly? In theory it should. |
| 10:48.29 | ShadowJK | Samsung Value and Samsung Plus are a bit random, at some capacity points Value is better, at some points Plus is better. Samsung Pro is consistently good though. |
| 10:49.08 | ShadowJK | Also, Samsung only recently started selling cards to consumers, so you don't need to worry too much about accidentally getting older models. |
| 10:49.14 | WizardNumberNext | I am not going for anything else then premium stuff - like pro |
| 10:49.42 | WizardNumberNext | other then fakes - I have nothing to worry about then |
| 10:50.30 | ShadowJK | Sandisk also has good products, but you need to be very careful about the exact product# you're getting so that you get the latest model. The "android edition" cards are pretty decent |
| 10:50.47 | ShadowJK | I consider all other brands too untrustworthy :) |
| 10:50.48 | WizardNumberNext | I got one fake - suppose to be Samsung plus 10 class - it barely goes to 800KiB/s and never works properly - creating ext4 on it is impossible |
| 10:51.19 | WizardNumberNext | I was considering sandisk, as it is easier to get it on ebay |
| 10:51.40 | WizardNumberNext | but I might get it from amazon or something like this |
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| 10:52.29 | ShadowJK | I wouldn't get any memory cards from ebay |
| 10:52.46 | ShadowJK | And only Amazon if it says sold and shipped by Amazon |
| 10:52.51 | WizardNumberNext | not any more - damn one never arrived, another is fake |
| 10:53.58 | WizardNumberNext | fortunately it says sold and shipped by amazon |
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| 11:07.16 | Shapeshifter | What's with tmo? |
| 11:16.53 | t-f-b | I have understood there was a spam attack and it is pauzed until an admin is available |
| 11:17.44 | dos1 | yup |
| 11:20.00 | Shapeshifter | I see. |
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| 12:25.16 | RzR | hi |
| 12:25.28 | RzR | has any of you a harmattan sbox ? |
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| 12:42.58 | randervault | Status on TMO? Is the spam being cleared? |
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| 12:48.23 | lexik | TMO is down.. |
| 12:49.27 | LjL-Alps | :\ |
| 12:57.36 | dos1 | randervault: TMO is waiting for some admin/mod to step up and prevent more spam |
| 12:58.00 | randervault | is stskeep still the admin? |
| 13:01.13 | ShadowJK | was he ever? |
| 13:01.31 | ShadowJK | wait what |
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| 13:08.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | Earthwings: is the upload account for that other guy (forgot the name) working now? |
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| 13:12.45 | xes | hi DocScrutinizer05 |
| 13:12.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi! |
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| 13:14.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | xes: do you think I should try to mail reggie and ask for help with tmo administration? |
| 13:15.02 | xes | tonight i saw that someone removed a few of that spam threads/posts... Who? |
| 13:15.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | good question, no idea |
| 13:15.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't even have a comprehensive list of mods on tmo |
| 13:15.53 | xes | i don't think that those spammers changed idea removing what they had posted before |
| 13:15.58 | Earthwings | shentey: ^^ |
| 13:16.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st does his very own empire there |
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| 13:16.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | right, shentey. could you ask him if his account works as expected, please? |
| 13:16.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, he's in here |
| 13:16.49 | Earthwings | shentey: around? did you try uploading to extras yet? |
| 13:16.52 | xes | yep |
| 13:18.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | shentey: we need your close feedback to fix possible oopsies in your account |
| 13:18.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | sysops / maintainers can't test your account, you're the only one who got the ssh key |
| 13:19.16 | shentey | Earthwings: nope, I'm still looking for a way to build the package that doesn't require too much patching |
| 13:19.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, well. |
| 13:20.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | shentey: please ask freemangordon_ about that testpackage he used to check autobuilder and relatives. You might try to upload that void package to confirm your account is ok |
| 13:21.04 | shentey | DocScrutinizer05: ah, great |
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| 13:21.09 | shentey | freemangordon_: around? |
| 13:21.13 | RiD | tmo still paused? |
| 13:21.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not savvy regarding that, please coordinate with freemangordon_. When any problems arise, come back here and oing me, I'll try to fix them |
| 13:21.38 | shentey | alright |
| 13:22.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | RiD: alas yes. chem|st failed to appoint any stand-in who has full admin rights on tmo |
| 13:22.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | and aiui chem|st isn't available due to holiday offtime |
| 13:23.05 | RiD | aww |
| 13:23.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 13:23.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'll try to fight spam issue with help of thedead1440 |
| 13:23.43 | RiD | funny thing, wayback machine has a tmo snapshot 30 august |
| 13:24.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | or reach out for reggie (ex tmo owner), afaik he still should have full permissions |
| 13:24.12 | RiD | oh but probably many things are missing |
| 13:24.27 | Win7Mac | It was Gerbick who removed some of the spam posts. He has limited rights to delete spam AFAIK |
| 13:24.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks |
| 13:24.55 | RiD | wayback machine is useless, probably tmo does not let robots sneak the content |
| 13:25.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | RiD: tmo is highly dynamic content, it's hard to "mirror" it |
| 13:25.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | almost impossible |
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| 13:26.05 | dos1 | I wonder how spambots reacted on TMO being down |
| 13:26.20 | RiD | panic and rage? |
| 13:26.26 | dos1 | maybe it already got removed from their lists as being inaccessible? :D |
| 13:26.51 | dos1 | RiD: nah, that was community members |
| 13:26.53 | dos1 | ;) |
| 13:27.53 | Win7Mac | In another spam attack earlier this year it was discovered that those spamming accounts were registered months before the spamming |
| 13:27.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | now that a few interested tmo users who are experienced are around, i might unpause it while you keep it under close observation and holler if spamming persists |
| 13:27.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok? |
| 13:28.16 | Win7Mac | sure |
| 13:28.27 | Win7Mac | lets give it a try |
| 13:28.44 | RiD | i'd laugh and cry at the same time if suddenly a bot horde joins |
| 13:28.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | I expect very close monitoring done by a few of you, with reports every 60s in here |
| 13:29.15 | xes | tmo: admin/spam mod: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=cache:3Vvk7KKuIJgJ:http://talk.maemo.org/showgroups.php%2Bhttp://talk.maemo.org/showgroups.php&gbv=1&sei=_EAjUvKyGNSI7Abv6YGQDg&hl=it&ct=clnk |
| 13:29.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | who's willing to help doing such monitoring (I.E. searching for new members and new spams)? |
| 13:30.01 | Win7Mac | I will |
| 13:30.07 | RiD | I can do it for a while too |
| 13:30.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | xes: nice! thanks! |
| 13:30.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok |
| 13:30.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | unpausing it in 30s |
| 13:30.59 | RiD | initiate launch countdown |
| 13:31.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | running |
| 13:31.58 | Win7Mac | :) |
| 13:32.27 | RiD | 50 guests already? |
| 13:34.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | what's going on? |
| 13:34.13 | RiD | nothing. Someone deleted the old spam |
| 13:34.39 | Win7Mac | all spam gone |
| 13:34.50 | RiD | now it's the waiting game, tic tac |
| 13:34.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | isn't there a "newest member" somewhere in maemo skin? |
| 13:35.54 | Win7Mac | member search > advanced > member after >put date here |
| 13:35.58 | RiD | well, on the bottom there's a "welcome to our newest member" |
| 13:36.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | RiD: that's what I recalled |
| 13:36.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | please try to monitor if new accounts get created |
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| 13:38.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | our regular mods can ban members who created account yesterday and today start spamming, but they can't edit/patch/block account creation |
| 13:42.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | DANG!! |
| 13:42.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Welcome to our newest member, zlf4Cn << |
| 13:43.12 | Win7Mac | 2nd but last: bobfromcanada |
| 13:43.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, it seems I have to take tmo down again |
| 13:43.45 | dos1 | good that i've already finished sending reply to Neo900 thread |
| 13:47.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | tmo paused since obviously still spammers creating new accounts (zlf4Cn doesn't look like a sane username) |
| 13:47.46 | RiD | neither bobfromcanada |
| 13:48.06 | RiD | hi i'm bob and i'm from canada |
| 13:48.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, bobfromcanada is a very pretty name I'd think |
| 13:49.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | we need some tmo admin to fix registration procedure, it's either broken or got hacked, or both |
| 13:50.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | also we should forbid new accounts to post, for at least 3 days. Or ceate an automatism that bans new users when their first post gets "reported" |
| 13:51.15 | Win7Mac | probably better: forbid new accounts to post links |
| 13:51.41 | Win7Mac | thats how other forums usually handle it |
| 13:51.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's a safe bet, and I thought it been like this |
| 13:52.04 | Win7Mac | oh, i don' know, might be |
| 13:52.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | (it's a while since I had a new account on tmo ;-D ) |
| 14:02.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, awesome thedead1440 mailed me that he can't IRC but takes care of permanently ban any new tmo users who start spamming. He asked me to resume tmo VM. |
| 14:02.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi thedead1440! via chanlog, a bold THANKYOU! |
| 14:03.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | tmo resumed |
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| 14:07.47 | WizardNumberNext | hello. I need to reset media-player db. tmo is down and there's answer. Do anybody remember command? |
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| 14:08.27 | dos1 | WizardNumberNext: tmo is up since few minutes ago ;) |
| 14:08.52 | WizardNumberNext | nice |
| 14:10.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | trackerd -r; or sth like that |
| 14:10.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | please everybody continue watching tmo for spammers, thedead1440 can one-click clean out them, but he needs to know about them to do that |
| 14:12.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, and could somebody evaluate the registration process please. I tried and it seemed to me that creating new account is already not possible. zlf4Cn lets me stand corrected |
| 14:12.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | I got http://wstaw.org/m/2013/08/31/plasma-desktopJW3743.png |
| 14:14.26 | dos1 | DocScrutinizer05: dos2 has just registered |
| 14:14.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | my suspicion is that somebody removed a few text input fields from http://talk.maemo.org/register.php - but that doesn't help when spammer creates the URL to register by a script |
| 14:15.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | xes: could you try removing the register.php? |
| 14:15.25 | Win7Mac | Welcome to our newest member, dos2 |
| 14:15.32 | xes | DocScrutinizer05: sure |
| 14:15.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks a lot! |
| 14:15.39 | Win7Mac | is that you dos1? |
| 14:15.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | dos1: thanks to you as well |
| 14:16.42 | xes | http://talk.maemo.org/register.php 404 |
| 14:16.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | xes: of course not remove but just rename, and send a tmo PM and a mail to chem|st |
| 14:17.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | so he knows how to revert |
| 14:17.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | xes: awesome, many thanks! |
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| 14:19.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | to everybody: on talk.maemo.org, at very bottom of page, under "maemo.org - Talk Statistics" you got "Welcome to our newest member, dos2". Please holler loud and immediately when the user dos2 changes to sth else there! Thanks! |
| 14:21.30 | LjL-Alps | i'll wait for dos 3, would rather have nested subdirectories |
| 14:21.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe |
| 14:22.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | drdos FTW |
| 14:32.02 | freemangordon | Pali: KP packages are in the stable repo, but not in the package interface. reason is that KP49 is still in the repo. If you want them to appear in the package interface, I can just remove KP49 |
| 14:32.27 | Pali | freemangordon: ok, do it |
| 14:32.40 | freemangordon | remove kp49? ok. |
| 14:36.18 | freemangordon | Pali: it is kp42 even :) |
| 14:36.32 | Pali | ok :-) |
| 14:37.02 | dos1 | Win7Mac: yes, that was me |
| 14:38.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: could you please help shentey to test his account? |
| 14:39.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: see backscroll |
| 14:39.09 | freemangordon | ok |
| 14:41.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, we have disabled registration of new users on tmo (at least we hope we succeded in doing so). Already registered spammer personalities might still continue spamming. Please report any spam you run into, both in tmo by "report" button and in here via posting link to the spam thread. Thanks! |
| 14:41.59 | freemangordon | shentey: the package in question is called autobuildertest, just apt-get source autobuildertest, increase the version in changelog and put it in the builder |
| 14:42.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 14:42.56 | shentey | freemangordon: thx :) |
| 14:43.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | shentey: if any problems shor up during upload (or "build"), please immediately holler here |
| 14:43.40 | freemangordon | shentey: the latest version is 0.1-3, in extras-devel |
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| 14:43.48 | freemangordon | http://maemo.org/packages/view/autobuildertest/ |
| 14:43.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | show up* |
| 14:44.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | shentey: there might be issues with your login-"shell" as configured on drop, then |
| 14:46.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | also keep in mind that propagation of changed ssh pubkey on garage may take undefined timespans till it reaches the other VMs |
| 14:46.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | VM's are sunced via scrpts started by cron |
| 14:46.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | or not at all ;-) |
| 14:46.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | synced* |
| 14:47.03 | freemangordon | Pali: I removed kp37 and kp24 too |
| 14:47.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | good! |
| 14:47.13 | Pali | ok |
| 14:47.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | cruft! ;-P |
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| 14:48.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: please try to usually coordinate such removals with merlin1991 (repo maintainer) |
| 14:48.19 | freemangordon | for kernel-power that is, will fix the other packages once kernel-power 52 appears in the package iface |
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| 14:50.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* usual calm sunday, how relaxing X-P |
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| 14:53.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | OT rant: KDE4 network monitor widget USELESS. Auto-scaling, with no numeric or other hints to the scale used. All you can tell from it is relative shape of traffic during last 20s, but you dunno if that's kB/s or MB/s |
| 14:56.48 | shentey | does that look correct? http://paste.kde.org/p43d6bb95/ |
| 14:57.47 | dos1 | DocScrutinizer05: scale it up, it has numeric hints but only if its height is big enough |
| 14:57.47 | freemangordon | hmm, I am usually using dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -sa -us -uc |
| 14:57.54 | freemangordon | shentey: ^^^ |
| 14:58.12 | shentey | freemangordon: alright, I'll use that command |
| 14:58.30 | freemangordon | shentey: wait |
| 14:58.30 | freemangordon | your should be fine too |
| 14:58.47 | freemangordon | Pali: what about kernel-power-headers? |
| 14:58.59 | Pali | it is not needed in extras repository |
| 14:59.00 | freemangordon | the version in stable is 40, in testing is 50 |
| 14:59.07 | freemangordon | but there is one in stable |
| 14:59.14 | Pali | should be removed |
| 14:59.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | dos1: how would I scale up this: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/09/01/plasma-desktopGU3743.png ? |
| 14:59.23 | shentey | freemangordon: your command seems to also build a .deb package |
| 14:59.31 | freemangordon | shentey: yeah |
| 14:59.40 | freemangordon | that is why I said your is ok too |
| 14:59.42 | Pali | in extras should be only user packages, right? |
| 14:59.53 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm, no. afaik |
| 15:00.03 | shentey | freemangordon: alright, I'll try to upload then |
| 15:00.08 | freemangordon | define "user packages" |
| 15:00.12 | dos1 | DocScrutinizer05: ouch, you have it on panel... then you're right |
| 15:00.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 15:00.26 | dos1 | but well, you can always scale your panel up! :D |
| 15:00.28 | Pali | if some package depends on it then that package needs -headers only at compile time |
| 15:00.39 | Pali | and packages are compiled in extras-devel |
| 15:00.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | KDE4 built by the 3 stooges |
| 15:00.59 | Pali | freemangordon: package which is not needed on n900 device |
| 15:01.10 | Pali | and headers is really not needed on device |
| 15:01.58 | freemangordon | Pali: you can;t install them via HAM anyway, but the repo is inconsistent that way |
| 15:02.09 | freemangordon | BTW the same for kp debug packages |
| 15:02.30 | Pali | debug should not be in extras too... |
| 15:02.38 | freemangordon | why? |
| 15:02.57 | freemangordon | in debug package is oprofile module |
| 15:02.58 | Pali | and you cannot install debug/headers packages via HAM |
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| 15:03.08 | Pali | hm, then ok |
| 15:03.14 | freemangordon | Pali: see ;) |
| 15:03.33 | qwazix | does the GTA04 support cellular data on debian? |
| 15:04.22 | shentey | looks like it worked, yay! http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/autobuildertest/0.1-4/ |
| 15:05.21 | dos1 | qwazix: with FSO, yes |
| 15:05.57 | qwazix | dos1, thanks |
| 15:05.57 | shentey | freemangordon: so if I'd want to build the package myself (no compiling on the server), I'd use your command? |
| 15:06.32 | freemangordon | shentey: I use dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b for tha purpose |
| 15:06.39 | freemangordon | no sopurce package build :) |
| 15:06.44 | freemangordon | source even |
| 15:07.02 | thedead1440 | Hi DocScrutinizer05 |
| 15:07.20 | thedead1440 | thanks for resuming the vm :) |
| 15:07.30 | shentey | freemangordon: iiuc, you don't upload source packages... why? |
| 15:07.35 | thedead1440 | and xes thanks for disabling registration |
| 15:07.52 | freemangordon | shentey: <shentey> freemangordon: so if I'd want to build the package myself (no compiling on the server), I'd use your command? |
| 15:07.53 | thedead1440 | dos1: is dos2 really you on tmo? |
| 15:08.17 | freemangordon | shentey: for "no compiling on the server" I used the above command |
| 15:08.21 | freemangordon | *use |
| 15:08.30 | dos1 | thedead1440: yes, I was just testing if it was still possible to register |
| 15:09.06 | thedead1440 | dos1: did you get a captcha to enter? just wondering as i havent seen the registration page in ages |
| 15:09.23 | shentey | freemangordon: ah, I figured that dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b creates .deb packages only (no source packages) |
| 15:09.35 | dos1 | thedead1440: yes |
| 15:09.50 | xes | thedead1440: yw! :-) When you need to shutdown something call me.. i know many brutal ways to do that! ;-) |
| 15:09.58 | freemangordon | shentey: good, this is what it is suppoed to do :) |
| 15:10.17 | thedead1440 | dos1: ok since it was a test i will ban and clean the account with a note about the test |
| 15:10.22 | thedead1440 | xes: :D |
| 15:10.22 | freemangordon | xes: you know what "special NMI" is? |
| 15:10.32 | xes | thedead1440: now we have ~20 spammer users to remove |
| 15:10.56 | dos1 | thedead1440: ok, no problem |
| 15:10.56 | xes | freemangordon: no sorry |
| 15:11.09 | freemangordon | pull the power plug :P |
| 15:11.11 | freemangordon | ~nmi |
| 15:11.11 | infobot | methinks nmi is Non-Maskable Interrupts, a way to diagnose why a CPU soft-froze. |
| 15:11.17 | thedead1440 | xes: you mean those who have posted spam or just suspected spammers? |
| 15:11.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: yw, thanks for helping out on managing the attack! :-) |
| 15:12.12 | thedead1440 | np |
| 15:12.14 | xes | check users registered in the last 24h... many usernames are very clear |
| 15:12.57 | thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: i must have refreshed tmo a gazillion times in the hope you were back to resume the vm :D |
| 15:13.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry |
| 15:13.26 | thedead1440 | no probs |
| 15:13.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | had one of my rare suspend offtimes |
| 15:13.47 | thedead1440 | yeah i was surprised too; usually there is no downtime in jrtzv :p |
| 15:14.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | unscheduled service downtime due to virus attack |
| 15:14.22 | thedead1440 | sigh i can't one touch ban&clean an account without any posts; will leave it to chemist to remove dos2 without labeling it as a spam account |
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| 15:14.33 | thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: ouch... how are you feeling now? |
| 15:14.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: keep dos2, I asked tmo users to watch for it changing |
| 15:14.59 | thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: ok |
| 15:15.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | (feel) like a bag full of surplus junk |
| 15:15.30 | thedead1440 | xes: i can't one touch clean accounts without any posts so have to wait for them to come to life |
| 15:15.55 | thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: you should be off then |
| 15:16.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah |
| 15:16.22 | thedead1440 | how about your meds? |
| 15:16.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | What I should do though is prepare me another coffee |
| 15:16.52 | thedead1440 | haha |
| 15:17.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | no meds to cure virus attacks |
| 15:17.50 | xes | thedead1440: the attack is still in progress so we should expect that these new users could post something. Sadly the number of ip that we should block is very large... so there is no easy way to ban them all |
| 15:18.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | for my system there's no general purpose antivir yet |
| 15:18.47 | thedead1440 | xes: :( i am awake for another ~2-3 hours so i will be monitoring them but if they come to life after that i hope someone else is able to stop them |
| 15:19.02 | thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: lol; you are one of a kind after all :p |
| 15:19.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: could you ban users? |
| 15:19.17 | thedead1440 | yeah as spambot |
| 15:19.25 | thedead1440 | or just for 3 days too |
| 15:19.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | please ban all new users of last maybe 36 hours |
| 15:20.15 | thedead1440 | isnt that risky that legitimate users get banned too? |
| 15:20.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | send them a notification that we appoligize for inconveniences if they are no spammer |
| 15:20.25 | thedead1440 | oh ok |
| 15:21.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | tell them to contact $maemo-staff to unban them |
| 15:21.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | keep in mind spammers also might want to send PM if they can't spam public threads anymore |
| 15:21.57 | thedead1440 | so no pm for them |
| 15:22.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | we don't want them to do that |
| 15:22.05 | thedead1440 | just a message to try registering after 48hours |
| 15:22.31 | thedead1440 | we have 20 users (incl dos2) who have registered since 30-08-13 and have 0 posts |
| 15:22.40 | xes | all the new real users of latest 24h i think to recall that have posted something "human" |
| 15:22.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, give them a "out of band" means like email to get ban removed |
| 15:23.14 | thedead1440 | lets shift this to -admin |
| 15:23.17 | Wizzup | Does tmo run vbulletin? (In train on 2g atm), but my forum recently got hit (but we prevented it) by some new vbulletin 0day |
| 15:23.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | k |
| 15:23.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | Wizzup: yup |
| 15:23.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | Wizzup: any pointers? |
| 15:24.14 | Wizzup | Which allowed remote attackers to create admin accounts |
| 15:24.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | OUCH!!!! |
| 15:24.31 | Wizzup | Still exists, happened yesterday |
| 15:24.38 | Wizzup | we have admincp shielded by several layers though |
| 15:24.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | UGH!! |
| 15:24.44 | Wizzup | Not sure if this is related, just saying |
| 15:24.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno |
| 15:25.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | what's suggested to fight it? |
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| 15:25.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think we should take down tmo again until we investigated and hardened tmo |
| 15:25.42 | Wizzup | I don't know, someone else took a look at it, I've been off the grid last two days :-) |
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| 15:26.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | any pointers to the disclosure/original thread? |
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| 15:26.32 | Wizzup | DocScrutinizer05: If you had a breakin of some kind, yes, if it is just spammers, not sure |
| 15:27.01 | Wizzup | DocScrutinizer05: no, it just happened at our forum, I am going to report it to them this evening |
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| 15:27.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | Wizzup: I don't want to wait for any breakin |
| 15:27.22 | Wizzup | (They require full logic details to vbulletin.com to report anything..) |
| 15:27.27 | Wizzup | s/logic/login/ |
| 15:27.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhm, so _you_ discovered it and it's not even disclosed yet? |
| 15:28.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | we are investigating it anyway. Thanks for mentioning it. We don't want to spread it here and now, not to wake sleeping dogs |
| 15:29.28 | freemangordon | Wizzup: what version? |
| 15:29.33 | Wizzup | DocScrutinizer05: no, I just know it exists, I didn't discover it |
| 15:29.52 | Wizzup | freemangordon: good question, 4.x; maybe maemo runs 3.x? |
| 15:30.53 | qwazix | yep maemo runs 3.8 |
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| 15:46.25 | freemangordon | Pali: http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-modules/ |
| 15:46.44 | Pali | nice :-) |
| 15:46.51 | freemangordon | http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-flasher/ |
| 15:47.10 | freemangordon | Pali: could you check if something is missing? |
| 15:48.49 | Pali | looks like it is ok |
| 15:55.20 | RiD | power52 is on stable now? |
| 15:56.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | many thanks to walter1950 for his constant help behind the scenes |
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| 16:00.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.vbulletin-germany.com/forum/showthread.php/61661-Mögliche-Sicherheitslücke-in-vBulletin?s=5a632015491b79180f03eb449ac1bf99&p=384267#post384267 |
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| 16:20.29 | freemangordon | ns id Melnik123 |
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| 16:40.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | huh? |
| 16:42.42 | kerio | hunter2 |
| 16:42.50 | kerio | i wonder if he noticed |
| 16:42.54 | kerio | and if he changed his password already |
| 16:43.05 | kerio | nope |
| 16:43.09 | kerio | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.14 | kerio | freemangordon: yo, change your password |
| 16:43.27 | freemangordon | kerio: that is what I am trying to do |
| 16:43.30 | kerio | 234 people know it |
| 16:43.58 | kerio | it's just /ns set password newpass |
| 16:44.30 | dos1 | or wait, let me do that for you... ;) |
| 16:44.43 | freemangordon | dos1: too late |
| 16:45.10 | dos1 | :( but i wanted to be a "hacker"! :( |
| 16:45.13 | kerio | dos1: you can go Melnik123 my Melnik123-ing Melnik123 |
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| 17:49.12 | shentey | hey, I've uploaded some .debs (no sources) which should show up here, but don't? http://maemo.org/packages/view/marble/ |
| 17:52.11 | shentey | DocScrutinizer05, freemangordon: ^^ |
| 17:53.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | shentey: you upload to autobuilder input queue. Autbuilder builds. Repo management promotes built package to repository. eventually it will show up in package interface http://maemo.org/packages/view/ then. |
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| 17:54.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | shentey: there's no way to upload stuff to repo and thus to package interface directly |
| 17:54.58 | shentey | DocScrutinizer05: is this also true for uploading .debs *only*? |
| 17:56.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're not supposed to upload .deb afaik |
| 17:57.39 | shentey | DocScrutinizer05: freemangordon uses the -b option for dpkg-buildpackage, that's why figured I could upload .deb files directly |
| 18:00.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | the idea is: you maintain your project on garage, where your co-devels can contribute and you have all the svn/git and docs and files and mailinglists and stuff. You build locally on your PC under scratchbox. When you are content with the result, you upload the *sources* to autobuilder, which will do a faithful copy of what your local build process did, to make sure all .deb on extras repo are based 100% on what the source claims they are |
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| 18:01.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | part one (garage project) is not mandatory, though highly recommended |
| 18:04.57 | divVerent | even when just using someone else's package and debian source pkg, btw? |
| 18:05.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry? |
| 18:05.21 | divVerent | I would still feel wrong claiming ownership for it by making such a garage project |
| 18:05.30 | divVerent | if it is not my code |
| 18:06.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh, you're not claiming ownership by creating a garage project. You accept maintainership responsibility |
| 18:06.16 | divVerent | hehe, maybe I should make a garage project "Packages ported from Debian" |
| 18:06.22 | divVerent | then it is clear :) |
| 18:06.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | nope, will not meet maemo rules for project naming |
| 18:07.01 | divVerent | oh? so one project per package is mandatory? |
| 18:07.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 18:07.24 | divVerent | even if one package is just a dependent lib? |
| 18:07.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | then not |
| 18:07.55 | divVerent | just wondering, as I probably want to port the clex file manager if it works |
| 18:08.13 | divVerent | not just because mc is broken |
| 18:08.24 | divVerent | also because mc is no fun on n900 display :P |
| 18:08.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's correct |
| 18:09.08 | lexik | DocScrutinizer05: i have no experiences with autobilder, so please sorry my stupid questions, i want to upload FANN (in debian repo it it named libfann2), what i have to do is to upload source-codes which can be compiled which "clear" scratchbox? or the .deb package? or both? |
| 18:09.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | it works absolutely fine via ssh though |
| 18:09.13 | divVerent | one thing I maybe would want to change in clex is keyboard mapping |
| 18:09.18 | divVerent | but... how |
| 18:09.22 | divVerent | it needs f keys |
| 18:09.47 | divVerent | and esc is not bound by default, and unlike mc no onscreen f key bar |
| 18:10.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | lexik: ask the developers who actually use that machinery every day. I'm not really any kind of developer on maemo |
| 18:10.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | my guess however wuld be: sources plus some auxiliary files that define what to do with the sources |
| 18:11.23 | lexik | DocScrutinizer05: ok, i will ask someone in Saera thread which is related to it, thanks. |
| 18:11.28 | divVerent | normally that is how debian source pkgs work |
| 18:11.37 | divVerent | dsc, diff.gz, source |
| 18:11.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | lexik: ask freemangordon or pali or merlin1991 or... all in here |
| 18:12.19 | lexik | ok |
| 18:12.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | also please refer to the howtos available on wiki.maemo.org |
| 18:13.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide |
| 18:14.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras-devel |
| 18:14.53 | lexik | ii have read all these dev-stuff on wiki, however there are some things i still dont understand |
| 18:15.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Publishing non-free packages in the Maemo Extras Devel repository for Fremantle is done via dput. Direct upload of binary packages is allowed for non-free packages only.<< |
| 18:16.56 | lexik | so that means i have to upload the >>source<< which will be compiled by autobilder and packaged automaticaly |
| 18:16.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging |
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| 18:22.17 | shentey | ic |
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| 18:43.14 | qdhfgfgh3gg1 | Do skype,yahoo,other chat and social communication prog (facebook&twitter) spy 4 israel&usa??? |
| 18:43.15 | qdhfgfgh3gg1 | Do they record and analyse everything we type on the internet??? |
| 18:43.15 | qdhfgfgh3gg1 | هل تتجسس برامج الشات و التواصل الاجتماعى لاسرائيل و امريكا؟؟؟؟ |
| 18:43.15 | qdhfgfgh3gg1 | Do skype,yahoo,other chat and social communication prog(facebook&twitter) spy4israel&usa??? |
| 18:43.15 | qdhfgfgh3gg1 | Do they record and analyse everything we type on the internet??? |
| 18:43.15 | qdhfgfgh3gg1 | هل تتجسس برامج الشات و التواصل الاجتماعى لاسرائيل و امريكا؟؟؟؟ |
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| 18:44.24 | dos1 | aha. |
| 18:45.20 | lexik | interesting. |
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| 18:47.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | idiot |
| 18:48.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems it's a lame exploit on some flaw in a iOS font |
| 18:48.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142 |
| 18:48.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | this is more exciting! |
| 18:48.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 18:49.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | I emphasized the LTE modem option, which somehow got ignored during the last week's discussion |
| 18:50.34 | dos1 | hmm, I can't connect to tmo |
| 18:50.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | so finally no more PITA with carriers and the bands they support, in 3rd world mobile nation USA |
| 18:50.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
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| 18:51.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | WFM |
| 18:51.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder if xes placed you on the IP banlist ;-P |
| 18:51.49 | shentey | DocScrutinizer05: is there a way I can watch the progress of my package in autobuilder? |
| 18:51.54 | dos1 | hah :D |
| 18:52.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | shentey: there are some clumsy sources of info about what goes on in autobuilder et al |
| 18:54.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually you get a mail notification and there's also a webpage which shows the build protocols for your package, once it got processes. And there's that "last built" or whatever on mameo.org right hand in default skin, iirc. (no default skin here) |
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| 18:54.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | dos1: can you change IP? |
| 18:55.40 | shentey | DocScrutinizer05: yeah, my package doesn't show up there and I didn't get an e-mail so far... so I'm wondering what the current status is |
| 18:56.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm lost, please ask freemangordon |
| 18:56.11 | dos1 | DocScrutinizer05: yup, dynamic IP |
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| 18:57.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | shentey: since ~12h we changed some config so I get notification mails about built packages |
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| 18:59.06 | dos1 | and it works :) |
| 18:59.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>The package autobuildertest_0.1-4_armel.changes has been succesfully uploaded and installed in th esuite fremantle. You can find the .changes file at the end of this message.<< |
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| 19:00.10 | shentey | DocScrutinizer05: I've now uploaded the marble sources... the autobuildertest has been building fine, I know |
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| 19:01.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, you can watch load on builder VM in ganglia ;-) |
| 19:01.23 | shentey | got a link? |
| 19:02.53 | handaxe | /help |
| 19:03.09 | dos1 | LTE? awesome! |
| 19:04.04 | dos1 | good that it's not april today: http://lists.goldelico.com/pipermail/gta04-owner/2012-April/002095.html :D |
| 19:04.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://monitor.maemo.org/ganglia/ |
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| 19:07.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | dos1: LOL |
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| 19:08.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | shentey: http://monitor.maemo.org/ganglia/?c=maemo&h=builder1&m=load_one&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2 seems builder pretty busy since ~30min |
| 19:09.48 | xes | DocScrutinizer05: ip ban ? who wants to be banned? ;-) |
| 19:10.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | xes: you banned dos1 ;-P |
| 19:10.39 | shentey | remembers watching the live shell output in his browser when building for Harmattan |
| 19:11.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's a completely dufferent machine |
| 19:11.12 | xes | noo, i really don't think. I parsed only who was polling register.xxx |
| 19:11.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | different even |
| 19:11.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | COBS |
| 19:11.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | we don't have COBS on maemo autobuilder |
| 19:11.57 | dos1 | xes: well, I saw 404 on register.php :D |
| 19:12.09 | dos1 | xes: but everything's fine, I have dynamic IP and already changed it |
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| 19:13.10 | xes | dos1: have you at least a part of your old ip? |
| 19:16.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | dos1: xes: it's most probably similar to new IP |
| 19:17.54 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer51: https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/marble_1.5.5-1/ ;) |
| 19:18.03 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: ^^^ |
| 19:19.27 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: is LTE more standardized than umts? |
| 19:19.35 | kerio | also, does LTE do calls too? |
| 19:20.06 | dos1 | kerio: LTE modems generally support GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS too :P |
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| 19:21.20 | freemangordon | lexik: what did you do? |
| 19:21.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | and yes, technically LTE supports voice calls as well. Dunno how it could be any more standardized than UMTS |
| 19:22.44 | freemangordon | kerio: wanna try thumbified pyhton? |
| 19:22.52 | kerio | sure, why not |
| 19:23.01 | kerio | i still have no wifi tho :s |
| 19:23.12 | kerio | looks for his usb cable |
| 19:23.16 | freemangordon | I am reluctant to put it in the repo, without testing it first, but I am not much in python :) |
| 19:23.33 | freemangordon | kerio: ok, will put it in my ~ on merlin1991's server |
| 19:23.40 | kerio | k |
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| 19:24.14 | Win7Mac | freemangordon, saw my query yesterday? |
| 19:24.39 | freemangordon | Win7Mac: yep, I already asked warfare, but seems he is busy these days |
| 19:25.06 | Win7Mac | ok |
| 19:25.22 | freemangordon | kerio: uploading |
| 19:25.30 | kerio | freemangordon: oh, i was looking for it |
| 19:26.17 | freemangordon | kerio: keep in mind I didn;t touch control or changes file, just recompiled with m-thumb |
| 19:26.22 | freemangordon | -mtumb |
| 19:26.26 | freemangordon | damn :( |
| 19:27.04 | freemangordon | kerio: could you do some benchmarks before and after upgrade? |
| 19:27.12 | kerio | NO >:( |
| 19:27.15 | kerio | ok fine |
| 19:27.22 | kerio | which python is this? still 2.5.4? |
| 19:27.26 | kerio | how do i benchmark it? |
| 19:27.26 | freemangordon | yep |
| 19:27.29 | freemangordon | NFC |
| 19:27.30 | freemangordon | :D |
| 19:28.00 | freemangordon | oh, shit, iDont sent me new bb-power-thumb and I forgot to put it in the repo |
| 19:28.08 | kerio | why you |
| 19:28.25 | freemangordon | because he doesn't have access to the repo |
| 19:28.33 | kerio | no i meant like a "why you..." |
| 19:28.41 | freemangordon | :D |
| 19:28.42 | kerio | as in "why, you..." |
| 19:29.59 | kerio | freemangordon: the pypy dudes have tons of benchmarks |
| 19:31.53 | kerio | at http://speed.pypy.org/ |
| 19:33.08 | kerio | also, why is python still 2.5 and not 2.7? |
| 19:33.36 | freemangordon | because this is the stock version |
| 19:33.46 | kerio | Python 2.7 was released on July 3rd, 2010. |
| 19:34.00 | kerio | Python 2.6 (final) was released on October 1st, 2008. |
| 19:34.15 | freemangordon | and entered extras-devel a week ago :) |
| 19:34.18 | freemangordon | 2.7 that is |
| 19:34.29 | kerio | it's not even 2.7.5, it's 2.7.3rc2 |
| 19:34.31 | kerio | for some weird reason |
| 19:34.41 | kerio | and it's useless |
| 19:34.43 | freemangordon | kerio: feel free to port it |
| 19:34.51 | kerio | because libraries are installed for 2.5.3 |
| 19:34.57 | kerio | all the python- packages |
| 19:35.00 | freemangordon | no, it is not useless, it allows me to build modern gecko ;) |
| 19:35.14 | kerio | if we were a real distribution we'd just decide to update python and related packages |
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| 19:39.02 | freemangordon | kerio: merlin1991.at/~freemangordon/python/ |
| 19:39.35 | kerio | that's a lot of packages |
| 19:40.09 | freemangordon | I guess you don't need to install dsc and tar.gz :P |
| 19:41.03 | shentey | looks like it just built marble-maps? hmm http://maemo.org/packages/source/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_source/marble/1.5.5-1/ |
| 19:41.11 | freemangordon | yep |
| 19:42.06 | shentey | that's wrong |
| 19:42.28 | freemangordon | hmm? |
| 19:42.30 | shentey | it should build 5 packages |
| 19:44.31 | freemangordon | give it some time |
| 19:44.37 | freemangordon | https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/marble_1.5.5-1/armel.build.log.OK.txt |
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| 19:45.23 | kerio | freemangordon: ok, it runs |
| 19:45.39 | freemangordon | good |
| 19:47.12 | shentey | yeah, looks good indeed :) |
| 19:47.51 | freemangordon | it takes an hour at most for the packages to land in the repo |
| 19:51.41 | lexik | freemangordon: i have successflly compiled FANN 2.2.0 with cmake 2.8.9 (from http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89576), FANN 2.1.0 could be compiled with autotools |
| 19:52.15 | freemangordon | lexik: fine, but I don;t understand what is your problem :) |
| 19:52.27 | freemangordon | just upload it to autobuilder |
| 19:52.46 | freemangordon | if it is debian packaged |
| 19:53.29 | lexik | may i upload the >>original<< 2.1.0 version to extras-devel without >>any<< modifications? |
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| 19:54.16 | freemangordon | lexik: why not, if you can build it with dpkg-buildpackage |
| 19:55.32 | freemangordon | lexik: http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging#Maemo-specific_packaging_information |
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