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| 00:55.16 | Macer | it was the ad blocker |
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| 02:24.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | toldya |
| 02:24.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 02:24.29 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 02:25.38 | DHR | need it for n800 |
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| 06:55.44 | WizardNumberNext | discopig, ty. I expect I should simply copy whole lot to /lib/modules/`uname -v`/ ? Should I overwrite anything? |
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| 07:29.28 | discopig | WizardNumberNext, you can keep it in /opt |
| 07:29.35 | discopig | theres a script in it to load the modues |
| 07:29.39 | discopig | i think load.sh or something like that |
| 07:29.45 | discopig | i never bothered moving it |
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| 08:25.21 | WizardNumberNext | there are only modules in there |
| 08:25.37 | WizardNumberNext | previously I didn't have to do anything |
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| 08:38.52 | drathir | jon_y: 3.1" isnt so small with full hw kb attached... |
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| 09:10.00 | WizardNumberNext | what is in cssu-devel repo? Is it simply cssu-devel -> cssu-testing -> cssu-stable scheme? |
| 09:10.15 | freemangordon | ~cssu-devel |
| 09:10.15 | infobot | it has been said that cssu-devel is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84292 |
| 09:10.25 | WizardNumberNext | ty |
| 09:12.09 | WizardNumberNext | I am on CSSU-thumb now. Quite happy with it. |
| 09:19.41 | SAiF | Once I asked how to connect wlan and edge together in n900. and someone said i have to bridge connections or write my own code or something.. |
| 09:20.56 | SAiF | today I found my E71 connects through both by default. ie plays internet radio through EDGE and plays you tube videos through wlan, with default apps. |
| 09:21.56 | SAiF | although not together in the same app, but I guess some apps like transmission could do that, atleat if you have multiple downloads. |
| 09:22.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~cssu-devel is also extremely deprecated for any non-developer |
| 09:22.27 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
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| 09:43.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | RST38h: now uncle fester is gone, like you asked for ;-D |
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| 09:55.53 | RST38h | Doc: But I want more, more |
| 09:56.04 | RST38h | Doc: Will they make Elop a new MS CEO? |
| 09:56.17 | RST38h | Doc: He has got so much experience in the mobile platform field! |
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| 10:04.13 | Shapeshifter | Well, it seems like this the end of the line for my N900. I suddenly lost access to my contacts, messages etc. and everything in /home/user went of the map. Sometimes ls would say "Stale NFS mount" for every single file that used to be in there, sometimes everything would just be gone. It still boots, but it can't load the desktop background and everything is hit and miss. |
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| 10:07.57 | Apic | Reflash? |
| 10:08.44 | Shapeshifter | Will attempt. Still trying to salvage some of the data |
| 10:09.08 | Shapeshifter | Although it's weird. Right now I can actually find many of the files in MyDocs but some are simply missing (e.g. photos) |
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| 10:29.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | Shapeshifter: full reflash |
| 10:29.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | Shapeshifter: sounds like quite usual fs corruption |
| 10:30.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | Shapeshifter: you're not - by any chance - on CSSU-T8(.0)? |
| 10:31.00 | Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer05: How can I determine this? |
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| 10:32.53 | Wizzup_ | Shapeshifter: reflash works with stale nfs mounts usuallhy |
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| 10:39.44 | sixwheeledbeast | Shapeshifter: Settings > About Community SSU > Version: |
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| 10:47.03 | Shapeshifter | sixwheeledbeast: thanks |
| 10:47.22 | Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer05: Tmaemo8.2 |
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| 11:31.38 | sixwheeledbeast | mmm...T8.x |
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| 11:57.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed hmmmm. Sorry to say that but I comletely lost confidence in CSSU(-T, for now) since that fstab/fsck hack that intended to improve stuff but in the end pretty much messed up fsck |
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| 12:16.01 | Win7Mac | DocScrutinizer05, Hi! |
| 12:16.13 | Win7Mac | Any progress with the cloaks? |
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| 12:34.33 | Win7Mac | referring to this: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclog/%23maemo-meeting.2013-06-29.log.html#t2013-06-29T19:26:00 |
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| 12:46.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry I been "lazy", didn't manage to pester the missing (mail) persons (chemist?) about their preferences |
| 12:47.11 | Win7Mac | np, just skip the missing persons then ok? |
| 12:47.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, will do |
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| 12:50.24 | Win7Mac | great, many thanks. And probably have new GroupContacts so we don't need to rely on X-Fade, like you suggested |
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| 12:55.58 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: disabled by default, iirc |
| 12:56.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: hmm? |
| 12:56.46 | kerio | the fsck on boot thing |
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| 13:10.58 | SAiF | This time after messing up the OS i was unable to flash. |
| 13:12.37 | SAiF | tried with win 7 64 and libusb, another win xp machine , and I even installed virtual machine and XP in my pc. |
| 13:12.44 | SAiF | but nothing seems to work. I couldnt even copy the files to virtual machine, it just says copying and takes hours... |
| 13:13.39 | SAiF | So after a week I am here logged in from a UBUNTU 10.04 disc, i had lying around. and I am not totally sure what to do.. |
| 13:13.51 | SAiF | So can anyone help me out.. |
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| 13:14.38 | SAiF | I just installed the debian based flasher but I cannot locate it.. |
| 13:16.03 | SAiF | new to desktop linux. |
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| 13:22.44 | SAiF | well.. figured it out. |
| 13:23.26 | SAiF | after this 'Suitable USB device not found, waiting.' the usb symbol on fone screen goes away and fone just reboots again and again.. |
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| 13:29.19 | sixwheeledbeast | ~flashing |
| 13:29.19 | infobot | hmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 13:29.35 | sixwheeledbeast | have you read above? |
| 13:29.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | SAiF: sounds like your battery is too empty |
| 13:30.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | and you probably didn't blacklist cdc_phonet |
| 13:30.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | lsmod | grep phon |
| 13:32.04 | SAiF | battery could not be empty, I was charging it with external battery charger for flashing. |
| 13:32.29 | SAiF | and I didnt get the second thing you said. the blacklist one.. |
| 13:34.09 | SAiF | ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ lsmod | grep phon cdc_phonet 3901 0 phonet 16933 1 cdc_phonet |
| 13:34.09 | SAiF | how do i blacklist that cdc_phonet and what is that? |
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| 13:54.48 | Guest36645 | ?nick SAiF |
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| 13:58.59 | SAiFu | ~ping |
| 13:58.59 | infobot | ~pong |
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| 14:03.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | SaIFu: see updated http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 14:04.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | dang |
| 14:13.13 | brolin_empey | Preparing/formatting only certain sections of a MediaWiki article for paged media so they can be printed to paper seems to be a PITA. :/ |
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| 14:14.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed it is |
| 14:14.51 | K_SAiF | Well booted back into windows. that old ubuntu and firefox was giving me troubles. with internet connection. and |
| 14:15.28 | K_SAiF | looking through the logs,, some of what I have said is skipped. |
| 14:15.49 | K_SAiF | Well I black listed as you said.. |
| 14:16.23 | SAiF | then tried but seen no difference. |
| 14:17.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | SaIFu: see updated http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 14:17.25 | SAiF | then I tried flashing the combined first and it worked |
| 14:17.42 | SAiF | and then emmc and then combined again.. |
| 14:17.55 | SAiF | is there any thing wrong in what I did. |
| 14:18.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, exactly right |
| 14:18.18 | SAiF | N900 just booted up and is running fine for now. |
| 14:18.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | err wait |
| 14:18.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | the correct sequence is combined, then emmc, then combined again |
| 14:19.44 | SAiF | question is why did I had to flash combined first, I never flashed combined first before. Just the emmc and then combined. and that used to work |
| 14:19.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | you always need to flash combined too when you flashed emmc (there's a trick to get away with flashing combined first, and then emmc, but that's not simple) |
| 14:21.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can flash emmc only with a semi-working rootfs. If your rootfs is too messed up, you need to flash it first (combined), before you can flash emmc. And after emmc you always should flash combined |
| 14:21.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | thus: combined, emmc, combined |
| 14:21.53 | SAiF | okay now I got. I never got n900 this much messed up before. to a nonbooting situation |
| 14:22.11 | SAiF | *got it |
| 14:22.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | see "the complete foolproof flashing procedure" in http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 14:22.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | all down at bottom of that page |
| 14:23.07 | SAiF | I always use that.. actually I couldnt find another guide :) |
| 14:23.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | If you cannot establish a connection with N900, or got any other problems during star... |
| 14:24.12 | brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: I want the “ASCII printable characters” section of http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ASCII&oldid=569716319 on at most 2 Letter-sized pages so I can print it to paper and put it on my wall. I have copied the section from Mozilla Firefox to LibreOffice Writer 4.0.3.3 but cannot get the 3 columns of tables to actually be in 3 columns instead of in only 2 columns. |
| 14:24.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>...do the following steps which describe the complete foolproof flashing procedure again in terse form:<< |
| 14:25.42 | SAiF | Now can I follow this http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_The_Perfect_Setup |
| 14:26.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | SAiF: it's not exactly the official definition/instruction |
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| 14:26.48 | SAiF | is there any? |
| 14:27.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: I'd try to highlight one 5-col column after the other and then insert them into a table with the columns you defined in writer |
| 14:28.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/with the/with three/ |
| 14:28.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | SAiF: not really. The one you referred to is not exactly bad, but take it with a grain of salt |
| 14:29.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | for example I don't think removing relentlessly all apps somebody considered useless is a smart thing to do |
| 14:30.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | same wy you shouldn't blindly follow every "suggestion" on: |
| 14:30.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 14:30.23 | infobot | well, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 14:30.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | same way* |
| 14:31.01 | brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: I tried that but Writer incorrectly assumes I want to paste the copied table into multiple columns of the table in Writer instead of pasting into only 1 column of the table in Writer. :/ |
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| 14:31.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah I see |
| 14:31.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | so create a table with 15 cols |
| 14:31.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | or rather, 3 tables with 5 cols |
| 14:32.08 | brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: Does Writer even support nested tables? |
| 14:32.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | or see if `man ascii` maybe more meets your needs |
| 14:33.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: I guess it at least allows multiple side-by-side tables on one page |
| 14:34.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | but you for sure can as well try to paste into cols1-5, then 6-10, then 11-15, of a 15col table |
| 14:34.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | or even make that 17 col, to have a nice margin between the 3 sections |
| 14:35.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | or even use calc instead writer, then export to a writer document or print directly from calc |
| 14:36.28 | SAiF | I always have difficulty choosing the right version of KP, cssu and some other software.. or may be its because I cannot make sure I installed correct versions.. I may sound stupid. |
| 14:36.34 | SAiF | Anyway thanks Doc |
| 14:38.01 | sixwheeledbeast | SAiF: there is no "right" version. only what is best for YOU. As explianed on the cssu page. |
| 14:38.05 | sixwheeledbeast | ~cssu |
| 14:38.05 | infobot | rumour has it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
| 14:38.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | brolin_empey: http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?ascii+7 http://www.manpagez.com/man/7/ascii/ |
| 14:38.30 | SAiF | :) |
| 14:39.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | SAiF: go for CSSU-S |
| 14:39.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | for KP pick latest, which is 52 iirc ans should be available via extras-devel now |
| 14:41.03 | LjL-Alps | win 41 |
| 14:41.49 | SAiF | Okay Doc. it seems stable suits me more. last time had issues with the portrait mode calling menu, after cssu-T |
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| 14:47.31 | sixwheeledbeast | SAiF: stable with latest kp52 is my day-to-day device setup. as per wiki page you mentioned. |
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| 14:50.14 | SAiF | what about Additional Unnecessary Software, will you remove it? |
| 14:51.48 | sixwheeledbeast | er? |
| 14:52.08 | sixwheeledbeast | Remove from device? |
| 14:52.14 | SAiF | yes |
| 14:52.52 | sixwheeledbeast | ~listkeys beast |
| 14:52.55 | SAiF | Ive got a feeling that it removes some of the needed libraries.. I may sound stupid again |
| 14:53.03 | sixwheeledbeast | ~beasttweaks |
| 14:53.03 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, beasttweaks is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Sixwheeledbeast/Scripts |
| 14:53.32 | sixwheeledbeast | I have my version of software removal :) |
| 14:54.09 | SAiF | wow cool... |
| 14:54.11 | sixwheeledbeast | it removes some languages that you might need if you are not english |
| 14:54.28 | SAiF | my language in not in the list anyway.. haha |
| 14:56.00 | sixwheeledbeast | I also keep the orange theme in my version |
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| 15:41.23 | brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: Your suggestions sound good in theory but they do not function as expected in practice. Never underestimate the seemingly endless frustration involved in trying to copy a table from a MediaWiki article in a GUI Web browser to a text document in LibreOffice Writer. :/ |
| 15:44.33 | brolin_empey | Why is copying a table from a document viewer to a document editor so bloody difficult? :/ |
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| 15:57.58 | sixwheeledbeast | it appears beasttweaks is now featured in jrtools :) |
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| 16:10.44 | Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer05: what does it mean, CSSU-T? testing? |
| 16:10.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 16:11.48 | Shapeshifter | I don't know, I've pretty much given up on small mobile devices altogether |
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| 16:30.24 | kerio | Shapeshifter: ...what are you doing here then? |
| 16:30.30 | kerio | we're all about a certain small mobile device |
| 16:30.43 | kerio | don't get me wrong, you can stay |
| 16:30.48 | kerio | but it seems weird |
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| 16:44.12 | kerio | !saves |
| 16:44.18 | kerio | whoops, wrong window |
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| 17:40.48 | SAiF | ~ping |
| 17:40.48 | infobot | ~pong |
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| 17:42.51 | SAiF | Link to flash player 10 binaries in wiki is broken. http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_The_Perfect_Setup |
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| 17:51.21 | WizardNumberNext | hello. Strange problem. I want to install backupmenu. HAM is complaining about missing liblz02 and apt-get doesn't find it. I have backupmenu freshly iunstalled on my 1st n900 - something like on 18 august. Now I cannot install it becaus of missing liblzo2. How to fiz that problem or where to find liblzo2 - I can install it with dpkg |
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| 18:25.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | WizardNumberNext: http://maemo.org/packages/view/liblzo2-2/ |
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| 18:27.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | so according to that it should be in nokia base repo and in SDK |
| 18:27.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | nokia base repo might have issues due to the expired key |
| 18:27.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | check your log |
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| 18:50.34 | SAiF | I too couldnt find backup menu in the repos. it just says package not found. |
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| 19:16.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon_: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://maemo.org/packages/view/backupmenu/ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:18.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | nevermind |
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| 22:13.42 | lexik | one week offline! :O without any inet connection! and without my N900 !! it was terrible.. however welcome back |
| 22:14.41 | nox- | y no n900? no mobile coverage? |
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