| 00:02.23 | Macer | ecc3g: yeah but i thought the actual n900 had a different thing about it |
| 00:02.35 | Macer | which allows the n900 to charge faster |
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| 00:24.51 | robbiethe1st | so, guys, the N950 has a proximity sensor on the front, right? |
| 00:26.10 | robbiethe1st | It uses an IR(or near-IR) LED? |
| 00:26.57 | ecc3g | macer: nah it's standard or at least (mostly) follows the USB consortium's guidelines. |
| 00:27.28 | ecc3g | the only thing that's broken is that it doesn't always switch modes, it's extremely conservative not to fry anything. |
| 00:29.13 | ecc3g | i've never seen any phone with a visible or near-IR proximity sensor... heh |
| 00:30.04 | ecc3g | if it was near-IR then I suppose some people could actually see it lit... |
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| 00:32.16 | robbiethe1st | ecc3g, exactly what I'm getting at |
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| 00:32.36 | robbiethe1st | Last night, in the dark, I saw a very /very/ dim red light from the front of my N950 |
| 00:32.55 | robbiethe1st | just a tiny little spark, from the top area there. definitely glowing |
| 00:33.25 | robbiethe1st | I used my N900 to take a look at it with the camera, and it was light purple, which is what IR tends to look like |
| 00:33.45 | robbiethe1st | It was also flickering, via the camera |
| 00:34.05 | robbiethe1st | naked eye, no flashing(so a very high rate/optical persistance) |
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| 00:36.28 | robbiethe1st | I didn't know this was possible(never was able to see IR before) |
| 00:36.57 | robbiethe1st | which makes me think it might be a close enough frequency, or possibly some reflecting off the plastic layer above it, or something |
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| 00:44.16 | SpeedEvil | ir is visible, just, at the edges |
| 00:44.33 | robbiethe1st | Yeah. |
| 00:44.42 | SpeedEvil | it is possibly the contact sensor |
| 00:46.49 | robbiethe1st | Yeah, that's what I think |
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| 13:45.25 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 13:46.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+uptime |
| 13:49.53 | drathir | DocScrutinizer05: can you also invite to alternatives ? |
| 13:50.14 | drathir | or not needed ? |
| 13:50.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | drathir: sorry? |
| 13:50.47 | drathir | missing info boot too there... |
| 13:50.56 | drathir | !ping |
| 13:51.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ping |
| 13:51.03 | infobot | ~pong |
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| 14:28.10 | sixwheeledbeast | Win7Mac: I have made Maemo Weekly News wiki page "registered users only" due to excessive vandalism. This must be 4/5 times we have rolledback now. |
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| 14:39.39 | Win7Mac | sixwheeledbeast, good, didn't even know this was possible |
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| 14:41.17 | sixwheeledbeast | see wiki logs ;) protect is in the column on the right :) |
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| 14:42.49 | sixwheeledbeast | Use sparingly on pages that have excessive issues that unregistered users don't need to edit. |
| 14:43.43 | Win7Mac | ok, thanks |
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| 15:07.36 | Natanaiel | what is the voice call app name in maemo? |
| 15:08.34 | Pali | Natanaiel: rtcom-call-ui |
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| 15:17.30 | Natanaiel | Pali: Is there any place where can I download its source code from? |
| 15:17.44 | Pali | Natanaiel: not it is closed source |
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| 15:31.31 | kW_ | Hello! Do any N900 successor devices with at least its capabilities (open-source, hardware keyboard, ...) exist? |
| 15:31.55 | kW_ | (Maybe the N950, but those devices are not available for purchase...) |
| 15:32.20 | jon_y | kW_: I've been told to get a blackberry :( |
| 15:32.34 | jon_y | it doesn't even run Linux |
| 15:33.12 | drathir | bb is great for main phone... |
| 15:33.37 | jon_y | it doesn't have ssh |
| 15:33.51 | jon_y | or irssi |
| 15:33.56 | jon_y | or gcc |
| 15:34.01 | drathir | have good client |
| 15:34.23 | jon_y | I mean ssh server |
| 15:34.32 | jon_y | with gnu userland and all that |
| 15:34.47 | jon_y | at least apple rooted phones have them the last time I checked |
| 15:34.58 | drathir | http://bbssh.org/ota/ |
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| 15:35.50 | jon_y | drathir: that's a client |
| 15:35.53 | drathir | oh server yes dont have, but bb need to be a secure phone... |
| 15:36.11 | jon_y | everyone and their mums have ssh clients |
| 15:36.31 | drathir | apple+nsa |
| 15:36.31 | jon_y | you know, you could enable ssh only when you want to connect to it |
| 15:37.11 | jon_y | lack of ssh server isn't related to security |
| 15:37.34 | drathir | bb have bis/bes |
| 15:37.40 | jon_y | so how do you chroot on a BB phone anyway? |
| 15:38.16 | drathir | yes server give acces and security holes not well controled... |
| 15:38.16 | jon_y | the n900 didn't have proper gnuland, so it compensated by allowing chroot |
| 15:38.51 | jon_y | you want an iphone in that case |
| 15:39.17 | jon_y | BIS/BES is already compromised |
| 15:39.34 | jon_y | compromised at the BB end |
| 15:40.57 | drathir | like i say bb is make for security not possible to acces and mess anything... And for main phone is perfect for entertainment use also is good, but for play with phone only n900... |
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| 15:41.30 | jon_y | BB is better used as a door stop, since you can't do anything with it |
| 15:42.00 | jon_y | >entertainment |
| 15:42.10 | jon_y | only if you are into what they call mobile games |
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| 15:42.35 | jon_y | I have my wintel desktop for that |
| 15:44.43 | drathir | i find all major apps what i using on symbian... Bb isnt phone to play with it it solid phone to working all the time... If need linux you can simply connect to ssh w/o problems, and not sure also if allow now to port redirection... |
| 15:45.27 | jon_y | sure, but do not say it is even comparable to the N900 |
| 15:45.34 | drathir | jon_y: yea games too, but also music, and movies... |
| 15:45.34 | jon_y | if anything, it is a downgrade |
| 15:46.04 | jon_y | right, N900 can't play music |
| 15:46.33 | drathir | true, that i say for main phone bb for play phone n900. |
| 15:47.19 | jon_y | simply put it, there is no replacement for the N900 |
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| 15:47.52 | jon_y | all the new phones are all glass, lack SD, and without removable battery |
| 15:48.15 | jon_y | BB phones with hard keyboards come with tiny 2.5" screens |
| 15:48.44 | drathir | i have for main n900 works ok, but time is short and update always is little scary , but all the time without update problems... Now sadly waiting my n900 to fix... |
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| 15:51.55 | drathir | jon_y: q10 ? |
| 15:51.57 | drathir | http://m.gsmarena.com/blackberry_q10-5274.php |
| 15:54.32 | drathir | my rip bb was 9300 was great phone... :/ |
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| 16:28.09 | Lithdk | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1368947 |
| 16:37.10 | wnd | I've been told that's the graphics core being used before it's fully initialised. I've had that happen number of times and it seems to be completely harmless. if it bothers you, reboot and let the device "settle" before doing anything. |
| 16:38.32 | Lithdk | Aight thank you |
| 16:40.31 | ShadowJK | It's kinda funny how asus and LG make non-nexus version/clone of the google nexus devices, but add microsdhc. On the other hand, you'll have to suffer vendor crapware/crapgui/crapoverlay instead. |
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| 16:59.22 | WizardNumberNext | Hello. I have advanced-interface-switcher. I think it is the one, which shows switches for 2/3G wifi and bt and. Wifi was including driver selector and bt was including discoverable/connectable switches. Allthougt it is not appearing in status drop-down menu. Any ideas? |
| 16:59.50 | WizardNumberNext | P.S. it is not from extras-devel |
| 17:04.11 | kW_ | drathir+jon_y: thank you, so this is also my current state: an N900 isn't replaceable with newer models, even 4 years after the N900 was launched... so I will now buy my 3rd N900 as the hardware breaks after some time... |
| 17:06.25 | ShadowJK | is on his fourth N900 |
| 17:08.24 | kW_ | ShadowJK: what happened to the first 3...? |
| 17:08.43 | ShadowJK | kW_; modem failed |
| 17:12.17 | Luke-Jr | hasn't had to switch to his spare yet |
| 17:12.22 | Luke-Jr | although I never use it anymore |
| 17:12.56 | ShadowJK | I use mine daily, ircing on it now |
| 17:12.56 | Luke-Jr | now it just sits at my colo as a backup internet link -.- |
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| 17:13.07 | Luke-Jr | I basically never leave home <.< |
| 17:13.42 | ShadowJK | lol |
| 17:14.02 | ShadowJK | My old Nokia E70 and E75 sit at home as backup internet links :) |
| 17:15.41 | drathir | Bmine exclude usb work perfect... |
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| 17:19.29 | sixwheeledbeast | ShadowJK: I have three and still on my first using as daily "business" phone ;) |
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| 19:47.46 | HtheB | moo |
| 19:48.57 | sixwheeledbeast | this channel has super cow powers :) |
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| 19:49.31 | HtheB | moo I said.... |
| 19:49.39 | HtheB | is a Brahmin |
| 19:52.34 | HtheB | http://static.giantbomb.com/api/image/scale_medium/445752-herdofwildbrahmin.jpg |
| 19:53.06 | HtheB | fallout ftw |
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| 20:23.00 | WizardNumberNext | sixwheeledbeast, everybody is scared of super cow powers - do not mention it ;) |
| 20:24.38 | WizardNumberNext | btw where is bleeding edge wifi module for kp52? on kp51 I didn't have to download it? |
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| 22:11.29 | discopig | WizardNumberNext, still here? |
| 22:11.51 | discopig | cd /opt/packet-injection-modules/2.6.28.10-power52/ |
| 22:11.53 | discopig | it's al in there |
| 22:11.55 | discopig | comes with the kernel by default |
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| 23:45.14 | jon_y | drathir: q10 has a tiny screen |
| 23:45.37 | jon_y | BB is either bigscreen/no keyboard |
| 23:45.51 | jon_y | or tinyscreen perma keyboard |
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