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| 04:53.12 | FIQ | hi |
| 04:53.33 | FIQ | ok, my file system was corrupt *again* |
| 04:53.59 | FIQ | by now I'm pretty sure that it's not due to user error |
| 04:54.15 | FIQ | is it possible that my flash is starting to fail? |
| 04:54.53 | FIQ | because this is the 3rd time in a month I get this issue |
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| 05:15.47 | wmarone | certainly a possibility |
| 05:16.36 | wmarone | is this the emmc file system or the rootfs? |
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| 07:42.32 | arif_mjl | hi |
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| 08:34.42 | DrCode | hi |
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| 08:57.34 | kerio | FIQ: zero it out |
| 08:57.38 | kerio | and then restore a backup |
| 08:57.40 | kerio | or something |
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| 11:09.06 | Macer | hm |
| 11:09.22 | Macer | anybody else running into problems with microb stalling? |
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| 11:19.55 | Hurrian | Macer: who doesn't? |
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| 11:23.38 | Macer | hm |
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| 11:31.00 | Macer | heh |
| 11:31.08 | Macer | opera seems to suck |
| 11:33.25 | Macer | like no youtube support heh |
| 11:33.47 | Macer | even tho it is a better browser on resources |
| 11:35.32 | wulfe | Macer, which device? |
| 11:36.52 | Macer | n900 |
| 11:37.00 | wulfe | ah okay |
| 11:37.22 | wulfe | I use a N810 with diablo turbo kernel |
| 11:37.48 | wulfe | microb runs pretty nicely on that, but the N900 is laggier with microb |
| 11:38.00 | Macer | i guess i can use cutetube |
| 11:38.08 | Macer | but the opera link doesnt work either |
| 11:38.14 | wulfe | lots of people swear by fennec |
| 11:38.25 | wulfe | but it really is all personal preferance |
| 11:38.42 | wulfe | i think its pretty much give n take with any of the browsers |
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| 11:41.51 | Wizzup | all fennec could do is lag on my n900 |
| 11:43.10 | Macer | yah |
| 11:43.25 | wulfe | i would believe it |
| 11:43.37 | wulfe | i never saw the appeal on the n810 either |
| 11:44.05 | Macer | heh... ff in general has sucked since the bloatwars |
| 11:44.14 | wulfe | true |
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| 11:55.27 | Wizzup | I disagree |
| 11:55.30 | Wizzup | fx is pretty grand |
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| 12:09.41 | Macer | ls |
| 12:09.44 | Macer | oops |
| 12:11.25 | Apic | Fail |
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| 12:19.48 | freemangordon | anyone tried this battery www.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen-power-1600mah-extended-battery-for-nokia-lumia-520-5800-xpressmusic-n900-x6-c3.html ? |
| 12:20.19 | kerio | ooh, it's a standard-sized one |
| 12:20.23 | kerio | and it costs 44.50$ |
| 12:20.29 | kerio | i paid 10$ for a 1600mAh |
| 12:20.40 | freemangordon | kerio: which one? |
| 12:20.54 | kerio | a weird chinese one on aliexpress |
| 12:20.57 | freemangordon | ooh, the one that is not shiiped to Bulgaria |
| 12:21.04 | freemangordon | :) |
| 12:21.35 | LjL-Alps | you people are brave |
| 12:21.47 | kerio | *ten dollars* |
| 12:22.00 | jon_y | ten bux |
| 12:22.12 | jon_y | is that how much the batteries go today? |
| 12:22.29 | freemangordon | kerio: I need to buy 5 batteries, can you recommend me what batteries to buy? |
| 12:22.46 | jon_y | even fakes ones come with Nokia holographic stickers |
| 12:23.32 | freemangordon | I guess mugen is not fake, but I found it to be too expensive |
| 12:23.45 | freemangordon | will buy only if no other options |
| 12:24.47 | kerio | i think that the polarcell bl-5j is your best option |
| 12:28.46 | freemangordon | kerio: you think that mugen is fake? |
| 12:28.54 | kerio | no, no, that's a true mugen |
| 12:28.57 | kerio | and it costs a fuckton |
| 12:29.33 | kerio | freemangordon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/PolarCell-XpressMusic-replaced-cellePhone-ScreenCleaner/dp/B004IHNVXY/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top/276-1556260-9969026 |
| 12:32.33 | freemangordon | hmm, this is 1400 mAh |
| 12:32.56 | Lava_Croft | polarcell is really the only viable option for batteries |
| 12:33.11 | kerio | 1500 |
| 12:33.12 | Lava_Croft | besides original bl5j's |
| 12:33.44 | freemangordon | kerio: hmm, no, zoom the photo |
| 12:33.55 | Lava_Croft | freemangordon: the polarcell batteries are 1500+ mah |
| 12:34.20 | freemangordon | the one kerio posted has 1400mAh written on it |
| 12:34.34 | Lava_Croft | iirc polarcell only has one kind of bl5j clone and that one is 1500+ mah |
| 12:34.37 | Lava_Croft | mine is 1550ish |
| 12:34.50 | freemangordon | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PolarCell-Batterie-Nokia-X6-00-5230-5800-N900-C3-00-BL-5J-XpressMusic-XM-Battery-/390402445382?pt=DE_Handy_PDA_Akkus&hash=item5ae5cc9046 |
| 12:34.59 | Lava_Croft | yeah, got mine via ebay too |
| 12:35.06 | freemangordon | this is the one from TMO thread and is 1500 |
| 12:35.21 | freemangordon | iiuc |
| 12:35.25 | Lava_Croft | from wannsee electronic, yes |
| 12:35.47 | Lava_Croft | the one you just linked is recommended |
| 12:35.55 | Lava_Croft | fast service, friendly company |
| 12:44.24 | LjL-Alps | which "divide apps into categories" package do you recommend? apparently, there's a bunch |
| 12:56.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | apmefo |
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| 13:05.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: either get original used BL-5J in your shoppe next door, or get whatever tested one in internet and don't worry too much about a 10% capacity difference |
| 13:05.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | rather check for good shop and good deal |
| 13:06.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | rather get 6 1350mAh bats than 4 1600mAh bats for same or even higher price |
| 13:07.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys battery |
| 13:08.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~batterytest |
| 13:08.38 | infobot | batterytest is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65568 |
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| 13:24.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: or in short: a battery for 40$ is not 8* as good as a 5 bucks one |
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| 13:25.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | SpeedEvil: ShadowJK: did you ever run some impedance tests against new vs old battery of same cell build? |
| 13:25.57 | SpeedEvil | yes - dramatically different |
| 13:27.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess a simple script that shuts down GSM and other hogs, then probes voltage in idle (20mA), then runs vibra and backlight 100% for 15s and during that probes volatge again, should make for a nice quick diagnostics tool |
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| 13:32.06 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 13:32.26 | SpeedEvil | It's not at all subtle |
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| 14:23.54 | Iridos | ha, nice |
| 14:23.59 | Iridos | but the summary for the battery test thread needs a summary |
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| 15:45.48 | benedikt | my n900 is stuck in the bootloop? where can i find the wikipage and flasher these days? |
| 15:46.15 | benedikt | s/?/. |
| 15:49.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing |
| 15:49.15 | infobot | it has been said that maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
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| 15:58.07 | kerio | ~rescueos |
| 15:58.07 | infobot | somebody said rescue-os was http://206.253.166.96/N900/rescueOS/, or http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/, or http://acehack.de/rescueOS/ |
| 15:58.23 | kerio | infobot: no, rescue-os is http://206.253.166.96/N900/rescueOS/ |
| 15:58.23 | infobot | okay, kerio |
| 15:58.31 | kerio | infobot: rescue-os is also http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/ |
| 15:58.31 | infobot | okay, kerio |
| 15:58.36 | kerio | ~rescueos |
| 15:58.37 | infobot | well, rescue-os is http://206.253.166.96/N900/rescueOS/, or http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/ |
| 16:01.31 | benedikt | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php # why are there ubuntu release names there? |
| 16:02.24 | wulfe | For the virtual images |
| 16:02.30 | wulfe | for sdk |
| 16:04.51 | benedikt | a |
| 16:05.24 | benedikt | so its not "ubuntu for n900"? what distros can you reliably on the n900? |
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| 16:06.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonders how maemo(!)-dev-env-downloads might be realted to anything "ubuntu for N900" no matter if such thing exists or not |
| 16:07.55 | wulfe | only thing i know of is the chroot debian with LXDE or KDE. |
| 16:08.06 | wulfe | but i am also only familiar with N810. |
| 16:08.16 | wulfe | IDK whats available on N900. |
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| 16:08.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | genuine? maemo |
| 16:09.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | then you have SHR and this errrr nitdroid, and maybe even meego |
| 16:09.25 | wulfe | yeah genuinely only maemo. anythign else is chrooted or in a virtual environment. |
| 16:09.33 | wulfe | bleh nitdroid...... |
| 16:09.42 | wulfe | that thing crashed my N810 hard. |
| 16:09.48 | wulfe | had to reflash. |
| 16:09.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
| 16:09.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-x |
| 16:10.56 | wulfe | it was all good i keep frequant backups, but just the pain of having to restore sucked. |
| 16:11.25 | wulfe | especially with a near full 8GB SD |
| 16:11.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd recommend to get a cheap android device to anybody pondering to install nitdroid on N900 |
| 16:11.46 | wulfe | indeed |
| 16:11.58 | wulfe | android is best left to native android devices. |
| 16:14.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | and N900 been built for maemo, and maemo fremantle been made for N900 |
| 16:15.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | I can't see whatever reason to switch to another OS |
| 16:15.04 | Wizzup | and the pc is made for windows |
| 16:15.16 | Wizzup | (sorry) |
| 16:15.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | wrong |
| 16:15.33 | wulfe | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:15.35 | wulfe | noty |
| 16:16.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | when ISA PCs are made for anything, then that's DOS |
| 16:18.36 | sixwheeledbeast | wot, windows? :shudder: |
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| 17:05.50 | ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer05; kinda |
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| 17:06.39 | ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer05; I never opened up BL-5Js to check the exact cell used |
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| 17:07.28 | ShadowJK | but with periodic impedance test during full-to-empty discharge, I can tell which BL-5J was cycled until I deemed it trash, and which BL-5J sat unused until it became trash. |
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| 17:09.19 | ShadowJK | Both were at around 1100mAh "nominal", but the many-cycles one had higher Z when full. The other (stored empty) had lower Z when full, but dramatically higher towards empty |
| 17:11.27 | ShadowJK | oh hey: http://enivax.net/jk/n900/ohm.png |
| 17:12.39 | ShadowJK | top graphs red yellow blue are: #2 stored to death, #1 after 160 cycles, #1 after 230 cycles |
| 17:13.23 | ShadowJK | and down in the messy low-Z portion is a purple brand new BL-5J (1430 mAh) |
| 17:19.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | nice |
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| 17:38.40 | WizardNumberNext | DocScrutinizer05, sixwheeledbeast, I have tested both display from 1st n900 on 2nd n900 and display from 2nd n900 on 1st n900. 2nd n900 doesn't display, both displays are fully working. |
| 17:40.14 | sixwheeledbeast | WizardNumberNext: so it's not the display module or the ribbon at fault then. |
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| 17:48.33 | WizardNumberNext | sixwheeledbeast, definitely display from 1st works and its blank on 2nd n900. I am not entirely sure about 2nd display, but afair I have tested it on 1st n900 |
| 17:49.27 | WizardNumberNext | If I wouldn't be fighting to get my money back I would canibalize 2nd n900 for 3.5mm jack and display, as digitizer is a lot better conditio n |
| 17:50.09 | sixwheeledbeast | eh? If the "2nd" display works on the "1st" device it's something on the mobo. TV-out work? |
| 17:53.33 | korhojoa | ShadowJK: so what's that? |
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| 19:43.02 | ShadowJK | korhojoa; what do you mean? |
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| 19:43.26 | korhojoa | that battery graph thing you posted |
| 19:43.37 | korhojoa | is that like series resistance or whut? |
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| 19:49.37 | SpeedEvil | uea. |
| 19:49.47 | SpeedEvil | series resistance vs voltage |
| 19:49.55 | SpeedEvil | for different cells |
| 19:53.04 | korhojoa | cool. |
| 19:53.44 | korhojoa | how did you do that? |
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| 20:53.06 | HtheB | does anyone here has some experience with the Dreamcast? :p |
| 20:57.43 | WizardNumberNext | for the first time I had problem with full flash. I have been flashing my 1st n900 and it didn't go as it is supposed to go. eMMC were flashed, but no rootfs. I am restoring from backup. |
| 20:59.03 | WizardNumberNext | how should I flash it? root, emmc, root? |
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| 21:00.57 | sid_blub | i had no problems with this tutorial: http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware |
| 21:02.28 | WizardNumberNext | me neither. I have messed up mine 1st n900 2 or 3 times |
| 21:02.45 | WizardNumberNext | and flashed it right awayatleasttwice |
| 21:03.26 | WizardNumberNext | deamned space is wearing out |
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| 21:20.58 | WizardNumberNext | I am getting error at root flashing: "Flashing cmt-mcusw... Sending request 0x50 failed!" |
| 21:21.09 | WizardNumberNext | nothing written yet |
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| 21:25.14 | sixwheeledbeast | WizardNumberNext: I have recently had trouble with flashing one section of device, it doesn't sound like the same but worth a read >> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90799 |
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| 21:30.41 | kerio | WizardNumberNext: i reckon that your cmt is fucked |
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| 21:37.05 | WizardNumberNext | what is cmt? |
| 21:37.22 | WizardNumberNext | kerio, is it flash? |
| 21:37.39 | kerio | no, it's the phone |
| 21:37.46 | kerio | like, the phone chip |
| 21:37.47 | WizardNumberNext | you mean modem? |
| 21:38.06 | kerio | well, i suppose that it does indeed do modulation and demodulation |
| 21:39.08 | WizardNumberNext | well, we both know what we mean. Whatever, yes it is fucked. No way to bring it back, no foam is working any more and I never had such sytupid idea to put any metal in there |
| 21:39.57 | kerio | to flash it properly, you have to skip flashing cmt |
| 21:40.02 | kerio | with the --flash-only option |
| 21:40.08 | kerio | just flash everything else |
| 21:40.12 | WizardNumberNext | I think reballing is only way to make it working, but finding specialist who can do it in London is like trying to find one needle in milions hay stacks |
| 21:40.30 | WizardNumberNext | if it would work I would try it tomorrow |
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| 21:40.57 | WizardNumberNext | I cannot risk it today - going to sleep to soon and tomorrow - obviously work |
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| 21:42.04 | WizardNumberNext | but I would definitely use your advice - it sound like it is completely sound |
| 21:43.04 | WizardNumberNext | kerio, can I risk flashing root only? |
| 21:43.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 21:43.33 | kerio | meh |
| 21:43.34 | kerio | sure |
| 21:43.37 | kerio | but why? |
| 21:43.58 | WizardNumberNext | obviously I have bit of modifications, but MyDocs is annoying part of whole development |
| 21:44.10 | WizardNumberNext | I have ext4 there |
| 21:44.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | irrelevant |
| 21:44.26 | WizardNumberNext | not to mention dat which would be going there and back |
| 21:44.31 | kerio | then i strongly doubt that flashing root will work |
| 21:45.02 | WizardNumberNext | I never have changed any script for MyDocs, only for sd |
| 21:45.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | --root-only will work just fine, not entangled with MyDocs at all |
| 21:45.37 | kerio | oh, MyDocs is actually ext4? |
| 21:45.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | except of cource your modifications to mount MyDocs |
| 21:45.49 | WizardNumberNext | DocScrutinizer05, it is only annoying to have to format bastard again and put data back, otherwise, no objections |
| 21:45.51 | kerio | then i think that you'll only get some error messages related to it |
| 21:46.01 | kerio | but it'll work |
| 21:46.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing |
| 21:46.29 | infobot | methinks maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 21:46.39 | WizardNumberNext | oh modifications aren't any problem - I have backups and can simply dump appropariate files |
| 21:46.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | has a nice introduction to what gets flashed when |
| 21:47.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | MyDocs is eMMC aka Vanilla |
| 21:47.34 | WizardNumberNext | doc, so I can flash emmc without touch mydocs? |
| 21:47.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | no |
| 21:47.45 | WizardNumberNext | shame |
| 21:47.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | MyDocs IS eMMC |
| 21:48.05 | WizardNumberNext | ok, I would go throught some pain and I would be reborn |
| 21:48.26 | WizardNumberNext | wait is home/opt included in vanilia, then? |
| 21:48.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 21:48.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas it is |
| 21:48.41 | WizardNumberNext | screw emmc then |
| 21:49.00 | kerio | /opt is cleaned and repopulated on first boot thou |
| 21:49.01 | kerio | gh |
| 21:49.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 21:49.17 | WizardNumberNext | I actually don't care anymore, as I would get it back to what it was before flash, but clean and fully working |
| 21:49.29 | kerio | because nokia sucks at unix |
| 21:49.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | but /home fs gets created during vanilla flash |
| 21:50.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 21:50.01 | WizardNumberNext | lovely, it is so nice to get knowledge. And it is even nicer if somebody is shareing |
| 21:50.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | the vanilla concept been done prematurely |
| 21:50.17 | WizardNumberNext | home is untoughed by me, apart some files |
| 21:51.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | vanilla aka eMMS flash is really poorly designed and based on hw, not on logical volumes |
| 21:51.45 | WizardNumberNext | actually all development with gnu/linux - mostly done poorly and with completely wrong approach, but it is still linux, if somebody is willing to fix issues it might as nice it can get |
| 21:52.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually you should have /home included to rootfs flashing, and vanilla should flash MyDocs only - alas they messed it up from beginning and there was no clear opporunity to fix that ever |
| 21:52.51 | WizardNumberNext | yeah it doesn't make sense to do it by hw, it should be done by volumes. Actually I can understand reasons behind it, but I do not like them |
| 21:53.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 21:54.17 | WizardNumberNext | one of those is - it was desinged not by unix/linux people, 2nd is rather obvious |
| 21:54.41 | WizardNumberNext | sorry - I write from laptop - to close cursors to enter |
| 21:55.04 | WizardNumberNext | another great device with some poor desing |
| 21:55.08 | WizardNumberNext | toshiba |
| 21:55.52 | Lava_Croft | Or you just cant type, jesus christ |
| 21:55.53 | WizardNumberNext | taking screen of to get to fan is ridicolous |
| 21:55.58 | Lava_Croft | Good night |
| 21:59.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | so much for negative moods spread inb this channel |
| 21:59.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | I love lessons from those who know zilch better than me |
| 22:03.46 | Lava_Croft | There is zero reason to even adjust my behaviour after your raging lately |
| 22:04.13 | Lava_Croft | I also wonder how I can see what you say, lol |
| 22:04.17 | Lava_Croft | fail me! |
| 22:04.27 | WizardNumberNext | oh, that just reality of toshiba - there's always something unexpected in the way. |
| 22:04.42 | Lava_Croft | That's the reality of everything :| |
| 22:04.44 | WizardNumberNext | Lava_Croft, should read backolg or something? |
| 22:05.06 | Lava_Croft | WizardNumberNext: Nope! |
| 22:05.09 | WizardNumberNext | don't be so pesimistic - it is my domain |
| 22:05.20 | WizardNumberNext | is it so bad? |
| 22:05.39 | Lava_Croft | Good luck with the horribly designed N900 and horribly designed Toshiba! |
| 22:08.48 | WizardNumberNext | n900 is desinged better then mine toshiba |
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| 22:09.20 | WizardNumberNext | anyway, I have an idea to buy n9 to put its processor into n900 - did anybody tried it yet? |
| 22:09.53 | WizardNumberNext | more ram seams as good idea as well, but I need to know how to use it - it is arm in the end |
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| 22:21.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | waves and grins |
| 22:22.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | WizardNumberNext: better ignore that guy, he's a troll in practicing |
| 22:23.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually I often wonder whether he learned from or even _is_ e*_ |
| 22:24.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | but no, e*_ usually had a _topic_ to troll about |
| 22:27.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | for your delight I'll just concatenate all his valuable contributions of last few hours: >>Or you just cant type, jesus christ. Good night. There is zero reason to even adjust my behaviour after your raging lately. I also wonder how I can see what you say, lol. fail me! That's the reality of everything :| WizardNumberNext: Nope! Good luck with the horribly designed N900 and horribly designed Toshiba! <-- Lava_Croft has left this channel. |
| 22:28.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops, probably that rather should've been: "" <-- Lava_Croft has left this channel. |
| 22:32.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | WizardNumberNext: I'm not sure the N9 SoC is pin compatible to the OMAP3430 in N900 |
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| 22:36.02 | WizardNumberNext | that's why I am asking. It might be case that it is not pin compatible |
| 22:36.14 | WizardNumberNext | it is 3630 |
| 22:36.45 | WizardNumberNext | by defition it should, but practise may show otherwise |
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| 22:38.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | I have to experience/reports from practice |
| 22:39.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway I think reflow will be hard to accomplish |
| 22:39.28 | WizardNumberNext | there's easy way to find out - ti know the answer - I should ask their datasheets |
| 22:39.48 | WizardNumberNext | I am not going for ordinary reflow - only reball |
| 22:40.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas odds are they won't state "pin compatible and signal compatible to 3430" |
| 22:40.12 | WizardNumberNext | but it would be still hard to acomplish |
| 22:41.07 | WizardNumberNext | odds are on both sides, only real check would verify either side of the table |
| 22:41.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | you maybe *could* try to find a socket |
| 22:41.23 | Hurrian | WizardNumberNext: FYI, the only chip marketed as pin-compatible to the 3430 is the 3530 |
| 22:41.23 | WizardNumberNext | coin was tossed, now it is time to catch it |
| 22:41.41 | Hurrian | I'm pretty sure 3630 has different ball pitch |
| 22:41.59 | Hurrian | had to choose a sample chip when I saw them up on TI's website |
| 22:42.03 | WizardNumberNext | Hurrian, I won't oversurprised |
| 22:42.38 | Hurrian | ah, yeah, and the only 3530 chip available that's faster than the one on the N900 is a 720MHz part |
| 22:42.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno if there are sockets that are small overhead |
| 22:42.53 | WizardNumberNext | do you have any knowledge about technological process? nm? |
| 22:43.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | DL3730? |
| 22:43.14 | WizardNumberNext | I doubt it, but do not exclude |
| 22:43.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | or what been the name? |
| 22:43.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | GTA04.org - check it out |
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| 22:44.05 | WizardNumberNext | afaik 3730 isn't hw compatible - it is extended compared to 3430 |
| 22:45.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/page/FeatureList/ >>Processor: DM3730 (OMAP3), 800 MHz, ARMv7 (Cortex A8), NEON, integrated DSP (TMS320C64x)<< |
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| 22:46.08 | Hurrian | WizardNumberNext: 3430 is only drop-in compatible with 3530, which some people say is just a rebrand, and 36xx is incompatible with DM3730 platform |
| 22:46.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | I never checked but they told me it's compatible |
| 22:46.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh wait, it's a 36xx relacement, right |
| 22:47.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | nm, I need a break |
| 22:47.23 | Hurrian | although a benefit of replacing the N900's 3430 part with a sample 3530 part is that Nokia X-Lo doesn't need to be signed anymore |
| 22:47.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | except when you take it from a N9 ;-D |
| 22:47.59 | Hurrian | you'll still have to buy another OneNAND part though, you'll likely ruin one if you pull it off at reflow temps |
| 22:48.12 | WizardNumberNext | sounds interesting, not yet for my pocket, but it might change |
| 22:48.27 | Hurrian | DocScrutinizer09: Nokia still gets parts custom made from TI? |
| 22:48.43 | Hurrian | whelp, typo DocScrutinizer05: |
| 22:49.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, it's EFUSE iirc, ask freemangordon |
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| 22:49.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | custom flashed |
| 22:49.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | fused |
| 22:49.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | whatever |
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| 22:50.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | OMAP has a small PROM |
| 22:50.20 | SpeedEvil | fuses |
| 22:50.36 | WizardNumberNext | like many modern cpus and alike |
| 22:50.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | a bunch of fuses are also a PROM ;-) |
| 22:50.46 | SpeedEvil | Oh - both. |
| 22:50.51 | SpeedEvil | oh - nvm |
| 22:50.54 | WizardNumberNext | we can put it that way |
| 22:50.55 | SpeedEvil | I'm mostly asleep |
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| 22:51.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | me as well |
| 22:51.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | and actually... o/ |
| 22:52.06 | WizardNumberNext | that's interesting. I wonder if it is user programable in brand new non-custom chips |
| 22:52.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
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| 22:52.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | afaik |
| 22:52.21 | WizardNumberNext | lovely |
| 22:52.48 | WizardNumberNext | but I have no good idea how to use it yet |
| 22:53.12 | Hurrian | OMAPedia ;) |
| 22:53.12 | WizardNumberNext | need to go to sleep or will be killed tomorrow in work |
| 22:54.15 | WizardNumberNext | anyway omap is quite potent beast, especially omap5 |
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| 22:55.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | tbh I have no issues with CPU speed even of 500MHz 3430 |
| 22:55.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's other bottlenecks that suck |
| 22:56.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | GPU, RAM, storage IF |
| 22:56.15 | WizardNumberNext | doc is right. speed is quite fine. ram is too small and there is almost complete lack of fast buses |
| 22:57.17 | WizardNumberNext | yeah use swap and play flac or mp3 from emmc and browse net at the same time - I would die old first ;) |
| 22:58.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | swap is a killer |
| 22:58.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | since storage is soooooo bad |
| 22:58.28 | WizardNumberNext | I suspect mine gpu in 1st one to be slowly dying. From time to time, very rarely actually I am getting artifacts |
| 22:58.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | OC? |
| 22:58.55 | WizardNumberNext | sometimes mine sd is faster then mmc |
| 22:59.34 | WizardNumberNext | not anymore - at least m onth without going over 600 and staying at 500 most of the time - conservative 81/95 down/up |
| 22:59.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | OC damage is like sunburn |
| 23:00.47 | WizardNumberNext | I never before got 13 hours of constant mp3 play, not even with stock settings |
| 23:00.54 | WizardNumberNext | now it is normal |
| 23:01.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | even if you never suffer from hard symptoms, your skin remembers all the hard UV light it ever had to take |
| 23:01.18 | WizardNumberNext | before max was 5 hours |
| 23:01.42 | WizardNumberNext | you are absolutely right |
| 23:02.15 | WizardNumberNext | and actually cpus are getting used to be overclocked and getting them back to stock is sometimes killing for owner |
| 23:02.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | never heard that |
| 23:02.42 | WizardNumberNext | it is endless cirle - you start you cannot finish |
| 23:03.01 | WizardNumberNext | I have it both with n900 and amd phenom II 1090t |
| 23:03.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | but might be plausible to some extent |
| 23:03.34 | WizardNumberNext | amd is even worse - it is unbearable on stock and before it was very nice and fast |
| 23:03.45 | kerio | install cssu-thumb |
| 23:03.56 | kerio | a faster cpu clock can only do much when you're in swap hell |
| 23:04.01 | WizardNumberNext | it might be thing about risen voltage |
| 23:04.22 | WizardNumberNext | kerio, I still need kp-52 |
| 23:04.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | n8 |
| 23:04.52 | WizardNumberNext | I still cannot find it - I have seen post once and now cannot find this little hidden beast |
| 23:05.12 | kerio | it's at the very least in merlin1991's extras-devel-light |
| 23:05.18 | kerio | http://extras-devel.merlin1991.at/ |
| 23:05.35 | WizardNumberNext | then tomorrow is a chance for it |
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| 23:05.56 | WizardNumberNext | maybe I would put freshing up things fr day after to morrow |
| 23:06.28 | freemangordon | WizardNumberNext: change distribution from fremantle-1.3 to fremantle |
| 23:06.43 | freemangordon | in HAM, extras-devel catalog that is |
| 23:07.08 | WizardNumberNext | when I would 3rd n900, then 1st is going to be testbed for other kernels |
| 23:07.15 | WizardNumberNext | including 3.8 |
| 23:07.20 | WizardNumberNext | or later |
| 23:07.42 | freemangordon | WizardNumberNext: also, you don;t need kp52 for xssu-thumb, who told you that? |
| 23:07.52 | freemangordon | *cssu-thumb |
| 23:08.11 | WizardNumberNext | maybe I would get gcc-4.8 for arm on mine amd64 and I would compile not kernel only |
| 23:08.35 | WizardNumberNext | so kp51 is fine? |
| 23:08.50 | freemangordon | ~cssu-thumb |
| 23:08.51 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, cssu-thumb is <DocScrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597 |
| 23:09.00 | freemangordon | read the first post in the thread |
| 23:09.35 | WizardNumberNext | I would, but it would take me seweral hours - in mean time would be sleep and work |
| 23:09.49 | freemangordon | O.o |
| 23:10.03 | freemangordon | several hours to read 15 sentences? |
| 23:10.11 | freemangordon | up to you |
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| 23:21.01 | WizardNumberNext | I am sure I have read it before. I have been confussed for so long time. |
| 23:21.22 | WizardNumberNext | ok as it is tuesday I have to say good n8 |
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| 23:31.30 | ebzzry | Regarding bluetooth on the N900, has anybody experienced being unable to re-pair a device with it, after it was paired with another device, then back to the N900? |
| 23:33.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | KP52 finally in repo |
| 23:33.42 | freemangordon | or rather - in the package interface |
| 23:33.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | simonknowsmaemo? shouldn't that have been nuked already? |
| 23:34.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | busybox-power(enhanced history)??? wth? |
| 23:35.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | alternate shell history even |
| 23:35.22 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: will look at simon soon |
| 23:35.48 | freemangordon | but this is the same problem as wi that friggin x11whatever-data package |
| 23:36.10 | freemangordon | it get removed from the package iface, but stays in the repo |
| 23:36.23 | freemangordon | howeber, i'm out |
| 23:36.25 | freemangordon | night |
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| 23:51.10 | kerio | mmh, my wifi randomly stopped working |
| 23:51.25 | kerio | meh, now it works |
| 23:51.32 | kerio | fucking wifi congestion |
| 23:52.37 | kerio | omg omg omg someone updated python 2.7 |
| 23:52.47 | kerio | omg omg omg robbiethe1st is here |
| 23:53.21 | robbiethe1st | What? |
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| 23:54.37 | kerio | oh for fuck's sake, it's still 2.7.3rc2 |
| 23:54.56 | kerio | we're at 2.7.5 nowadays |
| 23:54.59 | kerio | robbiethe1st: hi! |
| 23:55.06 | kerio | i still haven't tried the latest backupmenu |
| 23:55.09 | kerio | what's new in it? |
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