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| 00:13.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | *burp* |
| 00:13.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | sold one of my 6 N900 to Sid, a friend who really needed one |
| 00:14.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | he got fed up with adroid |
| 00:15.12 | Lava_Croft | time to get fed up with maemo5! :) |
| 00:16.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno if it been Neo or N900 where he was first to provide a gentoo |
| 00:16.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | and about time to put Lava_Croft on ignore list |
| 00:19.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | since I don't think it' in the interest of channel's majority when I quit for another 2 weeks just because some autistic Belgian (what a pleonasm) tells me why I'm not compatible to this channel |
| 00:20.10 | Lava_Croft | im not surprised you took it completely the wrong way |
| 00:20.19 | Lava_Croft | but that's more your problem than mine, have fun ignoring me! |
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| 00:20.33 | Lava_Croft | you will find other people to rage against |
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| 00:21.03 | *** mode/#maemo [+q Lava_Croft!*@*] by DocScrutinizer05 |
| 00:21.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry if somebody thinks I'm rogue |
| 00:21.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | I faced a deadline |
| 00:22.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | either I find a way to handle this channel and cope with it, or I leave forever |
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| 00:34.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | I survived e*_, I hope to survive L*C* as well |
| 00:36.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | chanlog shows somebody was hoping to meet me here. Go ahead |
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| 00:44.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | I consider it remarkable when users are willing to spend 200++EUR for getting another N900, after they had sufficient experience with android phones |
| 00:45.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm even more puzzled how the guy convinced me to give away one of my spare N900 |
| 00:52.19 | *** mode/#maemo [+o DocScrutinizer05] by ChanServ |
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| 01:00.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | I gonna ask crashenddie to help on channel moderation. I think discussions in here should get more on topic again |
| 01:01.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | I suggest everybody (incl me, who does it on a regular schedule) reads: |
| 01:01.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~question |
| 01:01.58 | infobot | [question] If you have a question and want people to give useful answers, make sure you have read this first: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 01:02.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | completely |
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| 03:22.16 | SAiF | I was just wondering why you are not here Doc. |
| 03:22.41 | SAiF | And you have have 5 more left.. :) |
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| 03:57.45 | ecc3g | i really should go buy another one... :D |
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| 07:18.03 | cityLights | hi, is anyone up yet? |
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| 08:12.15 | sixwheeledbeast | cityLights: did you have a question? People are always awake on #maemo ;) |
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| 08:59.13 | DrCode | any one know if Samsung microsd 64Gb xc is working with n900? |
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| 09:03.55 | sixwheeledbeast | DrCode: only Team and SanDisk on the wiki page. http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Accessories#Memory_Cards |
| 09:04.08 | sixwheeledbeast | I have a sandisk one. |
| 09:05.11 | sixwheeledbeast | may need reformatting from stock filesystem type. |
| 09:11.55 | DrCode | yes |
| 09:12.08 | DrCode | but in the forum I read that also samsung |
| 09:15.34 | DrCode | sixwheeledbeast, do U know if samsung 64Gb microsd will work? |
| 09:15.41 | DrCode | or better to buy sandisk? |
| 09:17.32 | sixwheeledbeast | DrCode: I have NOT tested or heard anything about Samsung 64GB. I would use one from the wiki if you don't wish to risk it. I can confirm the SanDisk from the wiki works fine. |
| 09:18.08 | DrCode | ok |
| 09:18.33 | DrCode | I will go with you'r advice |
| 09:18.33 | DrCode | I will buy sandisk |
| 09:18.33 | DrCode | thankyou |
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| 09:31.52 | korhojoa | i have a samsung 64gb microsd in my n900 |
| 09:32.03 | korhojoa | works fine |
| 09:32.45 | korhojoa | had to format it though before it would work, but now that the exfat drivers have been released, that problem might be fixed soon |
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| 10:21.17 | jaska | hmm, what wiki page mentions the sandisk model? |
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| 10:21.45 | jaska | ah, just in general, not specific ones |
| 10:24.14 | sid_blub | good morning, where can i get a current image for a n900? |
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| 10:48.03 | sixwheeledbeast | ~pr131 |
| 10:48.03 | infobot | combined is, like, the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
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| 11:04.40 | Lava_Croft | morjes |
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| 11:14.04 | jaska | so, a sandisk microsdxc that says class 10, uhs-1 should work? |
| 11:20.00 | SpeedEvil | As I understand it, not at full speed. |
| 11:20.09 | SpeedEvil | And as mentioned - you need to reformat |
| 11:21.34 | ShadowJK | I'd still get uhs even if it runs at half speed, chances are the uhs controller in the card will be smarter than older controllers |
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| 12:30.00 | DrCode | hi all |
| 12:30.17 | DrCode | I just copy music to microsd and I thay are in black |
| 12:30.20 | DrCode | any idea? |
| 12:31.01 | DrCode | I sue ext2 |
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| 12:38.22 | DrCode | ok |
| 12:38.30 | DrCode | it was chown problem |
| 12:38.30 | DrCode | thankyou |
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| 13:33.45 | sixwheeledbeast | np ;) |
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| 14:41.20 | luf | DrCode: do you still have a problem with bluetooth? |
| 14:44.10 | luf | DrCode: I have to leave for a while ... |
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| 16:04.16 | XATRIX | Hi, any idea how can i make Nokia Maps recalculate my route if i get off the route ? |
| 16:04.47 | XATRIX | I mean, if i chose to go another street, can it recalc the route related to my current position ? |
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| 16:31.37 | XATRIX | Any idea ? |
| 16:31.42 | XATRIX | DocScrutinizer05: ? |
| 16:33.43 | XATRIX | "Tracking the GPS position and automatically following the map already works but I couldn’t get speech to work. Also it has problems with loosing GPS connectivity (e.g. in tunnels) or if you choose another route (no automatic route recalculation yet)." |
| 16:33.46 | XATRIX | http://friesoft.wordpress.com/2011/01/23/ovi-maps-with-voice-navigation-coming-to-n900-unofficially/ |
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| 16:41.47 | Sc0rpius | anyone here have used the N900 to read eBooks? |
| 16:45.14 | LjL-Alps | not yet, am supposed to read a book but i keep postponing :( |
| 16:45.24 | LjL-Alps | although i think i'll probably read it on the N810 |
| 16:45.37 | Sc0rpius | I wonder what's the best eBook reader app out there for the N900 |
| 16:46.16 | LjL-Alps | i imagine it's probably FBReader, but i only tried a bunch of them very briefly |
| 16:47.52 | Sc0rpius | I'll try that one |
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| 17:05.31 | LjL-Alps | hm i realize now why i was so confused about my camera folder |
| 17:05.59 | LjL-Alps | seems camera-ui2 saves my photos into DCIM, however there is also an empty ".camera" folder which is the one that File Manager shows as "Camera" |
| 17:07.28 | Sc0rpius | correct |
| 17:12.13 | LjL-Alps | as in, that's how it's supposed to be? then why does the "Camera" folder exist at all? i was under the impression it was supposed to be a link to DCIM, but for some reason wasn't here |
| 17:12.39 | MohammadAG | I never actually remember seeing the .camera folder |
| 17:12.45 | MohammadAG | could be that I deleted it though |
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| 17:21.18 | LjL-Alps | uhm seems i am probably supposed to have a file /home/user/.config/user-dirs.dirs but i don't |
| 17:21.37 | Sc0rpius | wow I'm very hungry |
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| 17:23.26 | ensoe | How can I have media player regenerate all thumbnails to media files? Yesterday I took 3 videos on the n900 and I do have 3 .mp4s in my DCIM, but apparently media player must have screwed up as it's literally displaying the same thumbnail to the video about 6 times for each of the 3 .mp4 I've recorded yesterday, so 18 thumbnails total for 3 videos. |
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| 17:42.18 | amospalla | ensoe: don't know how to regenerate thumbnails, maybe deleting ~/.thumbnails or ~/.cache/thumbnails and resetting tracker database |
| 17:42.33 | amospalla | try deleting first on the thumbnails cache folder |
| 17:42.55 | amospalla | maybe that is enough, but I don't know |
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| 18:44.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | MohammadAG: hey! :-)) |
| 18:45.45 | ensoe | amospalla: thanks. got it fixed by resetting tracker. the ~/.thumbnails directory seems to be strictly for 'Photos' while tracker works on the media player which is what was the culprit. |
| 18:46.07 | amospalla | ensoe: great |
| 19:03.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | can someone educate me what "khungtaskd" does? |
| 19:05.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | nm, discovered google ;-D |
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| 19:24.50 | amospalla | DocScrutinizer05: n900 tells you when a task seems to be hung, and asks you to kill it, maybe it is that daemon |
| 19:25.08 | mashina | i know that too well |
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| 19:31.33 | mashina | Web is not responding... reddit's JS causes it to go into a death tailspin |
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| 20:11.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | LjL-Alps: no .camera dir here |
| 20:13.35 | mashina | i have one (1.2 -> 1.3 upgrade) |
| 20:16.22 | MohammadAG | hey DocScrutinizer05 :D |
| 20:16.30 | MohammadAG | wazzaaaap |
| 20:17.05 | Sc0rpius | MohammadAG, people seem to miss Sociality, it stopped working some time ago I've heard and now people cries every night for it |
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| 20:21.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | filemanager shows /home/user/MyDocs/DCIM/ as "Karmera" (German) |
| 20:21.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | on "N900" |
| 20:21.51 | mashina | mine is different |
| 20:21.58 | mashina | i have "Camera" and "DCIM" (actually used) |
| 20:22.43 | Sc0rpius | I don't have .camera either. |
| 20:22.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/8eb7af8081 |
| 20:23.32 | mashina | i have .camera |
| 20:23.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess you used one of the alternative camera-apps eventually |
| 20:24.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly one that had a confused developer who didn't know about XDG |
| 20:26.17 | MohammadAG | Sc0rpius, I got a notification on Facebook about some breaking changes, I'll update it soon |
| 20:26.30 | LjL-Alps | DocScrutinizer05, but then why does the system itself (in the form of File Manager) translate ".camera" into "Camera"? |
| 20:26.39 | LjL-Alps | with a camera icon, even |
| 20:28.23 | mashina | i ONLY used the stock camera app |
| 20:29.27 | LjL-Alps | i have used a few alternative camera apps, also, i'm running CSSU-Thumb and the camera-ui2 from Devel, but there are exactly 0 pictures in .camera so at least that didn't really get used for anything |
| 20:29.52 | LjL-Alps | i'm really unsure whether at some point the "Camera" folder changed from pointing to DCIM into .camera, though |
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| 20:31.32 | marek_ | hello. Is there any way to change lock-code on n900 directly from linux computer? |
| 20:32.04 | marek_ | I need rescueOS as well. Palio - preferably yours 3.8-rc3, please? |
| 20:34.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | see http://privatepaste.com/8eb7af8081 |
| 20:37.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | tracker.cfg: WatchDirectoryRoots = $HOME/MyDocs/.sounds/;$HOME/MyDocs/.documents/;$HOME/MyDocs/.videos/;$HOME/MyDocs/.images/;$HOME/MyDocs/.camera/; |
| 20:37.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 20:45.23 | WizardNumberNext | DocSrutinizer05: a question: I got 2nd N900. It was working perfectly for rawly 19 hours. I have enabled lock-code. At the end of being fully working, I unlocked screen, entered right lock-code, got it unlocked, but right after hitting done after entering lock-code display went blank and dark. It is blank and dark ever since that. I even received phone call right after it happened, but could not accept it. I tried |
| 20:45.24 | WizardNumberNext | to reboot, but I never got vibration on start, display is still blank and dark, LED works though. No idea about nokia tune, as it is played after entering lock-code. Have no TV at the moment to test video-out |
| 20:45.27 | WizardNumberNext | any idea? |
| 20:46.27 | WizardNumberNext | btw I updated to CSSU-testing, but never had such an issue before |
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| 21:05.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | WizardNumberNext: do you see NOKIA screen (possibly dim without backlight) on booting the device? |
| 21:09.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | WizardNumberNext: shut down device completely (shortly remove battery maybe), then plug to Nokia wallcharger while holding "U" on kbd. You should see "NOKIA" screen and usually a USB icon upper left - unless your battery is too depleted |
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| 21:17.54 | WizardNumberNext | DocScrutinizer05, I doubt I can see nokia logo while booting. I would double check. I would try wallcharger right now and get back to you. |
| 21:20.39 | WizardNumberNext | Actually on screen touch I am getting very weak vibrations, but no vibration on power on. That is strange |
| 21:21.00 | mashina | gpu could have died |
| 21:21.04 | mashina | i heard that happen |
| 21:22.09 | WizardNumberNext | mashina, I am suspecting this, but that doesn't explain vibration - it is lost on power-on. Every time I am turning on I am getting two flashes of orange light |
| 21:26.59 | WizardNumberNext | DocScrutinizer05, no I am not getting logo. niether with wallcharger, neither with usb, neither without anything |
| 21:27.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | then you got a hw problem |
| 21:27.26 | WizardNumberNext | I was hinking that |
| 21:28.21 | WizardNumberNext | Doc would you try to get back your money, if you would run in such situation just 19 hours after booting n900? No modifictions made yet. Had no time, as I was working. |
| 21:30.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | depends. When bought at a shop I probably would try. When bought from private, I'd prolly accept that shit happens and this time it happened to me |
| 21:31.12 | WizardNumberNext | ebay |
| 21:41.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | WizardNumberNext: do you by any chance have an opportunity to swap the display-half incl flat flex ribbon? |
| 21:43.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | if your 1st N900 still has working display, then you could swap the 1st display for the one from 2nd, and test if that 2nd works on 1st body-half |
| 21:44.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you bought at a commercial seller, odds are you're covered by warranty |
| 21:44.03 | mashina | i love sliders using them |
| 21:44.07 | mashina | i hate sliders maintaining them |
| 21:46.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | WizardNumberNext: the defect pattern looks much like broken flat plastic ribbon connector |
| 21:46.54 | mashina | i trioed to fix my brother's xperia play |
| 21:47.02 | mashina | by replacing the flex cable, it got broke even more |
| 21:47.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | the missing wibra and other strange behaviour during early boot prolly is due to NOLO checking the hw and detecting a defect, much like your PC BIOS emitting 3 beeps when hw problem XY detected |
| 21:48.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/wib/vib/ |
| 21:49.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | unfortunately even AV-out gets impaired when flex cable is defect - some feedback effect from the video interface to LCD |
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| 21:49.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | unclear causality chain but verified in several RL cases |
| 21:51.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | possibly the kernel video driver fails on initializing the LCD display and thus not even bothers to correctly set up the AV |
| 21:52.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | also the possible defects in FPC (==flex) are manifold, so YMMV |
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| 23:26.01 | sixwheeledbeast | WizardNumberNext: ~fixribbon |