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| 00:54.24 | FIQ | hmm is there a way to move bookmark order in browser..? |
| 00:55.03 | FIQ | microb that is |
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| 02:31.16 | DrCode | hi all |
| 02:31.26 | DrCode | I want to use ext3 or ext2 in microsd , so it will not have 4Gb limit |
| 02:31.44 | DrCode | what is recommanded to use? |
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| 02:51.38 | ShadowJK | sighs |
| 02:51.45 | ShadowJK | tracker has duplicated everything |
| 02:52.05 | ShadowJK | DrCode; ext3 is better than ext2 |
| 02:52.10 | ShadowJK | in terms of speed |
| 02:55.20 | DrCode | dose it mount it automticly |
| 02:55.41 | DrCode | or I will have to make changes in fstab? |
| 02:56.19 | DrCode | I can format all my microsd to ext3 or better to make patition for fat32 also? |
| 03:00.00 | ecc3g | only need fat32 if you want to use with os's that dont support ext2... |
| 03:06.25 | DrCode | ok |
| 03:06.41 | DrCode | but I want to use chroot with file larger then 4Gb |
| 03:06.50 | ShadowJK | In cssu it does it automatically |
| 03:06.54 | ShadowJK | not in stock though |
| 03:07.05 | DrCode | ext3? |
| 03:07.30 | ShadowJK | ext2-4 |
| 03:08.28 | ShadowJK | if you go cssu and kernel-power, I'd recommend ext4 |
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| 04:15.05 | Macer | hm |
| 04:15.22 | Macer | this n900 seems far better with cssu-s |
| 04:18.59 | psycho_oreos | Gotta love forum noobs, first they post a challenge against N900 as a possible replacement/successor in the wrong area. Now they are trying to make a stand with what they believe in. |
| 04:19.59 | robbiethe1st | Find me a device with a HW KBD that can run a Debian-based system with X11, and I'll agree it's a N900 replacement. Till then... |
| 04:20.43 | psycho_oreos | There is this forum thread that's catching some attention: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1366524 |
| 04:22.07 | psycho_oreos | It also goes to show how old maemo's competitors are when it comes to having a device with both cellular connectivity and a hardware keyboard. |
| 04:22.37 | robbiethe1st | yeah |
| 04:23.13 | robbiethe1st | I'm also kind of hoping perhaps we'll get some love with these new Intel phones |
| 04:23.42 | robbiethe1st | Intel phone (hopefully) means decent bios, x86 drivers etc... and the ability to run desktop Linux(and possibly Wine as well)... |
| 04:24.15 | psycho_oreos | Somehow I don't think Intel is related, at the end of the day they only care about two things: 1) profit on returning clientele and 2) market proliferation. |
| 04:25.01 | psycho_oreos | There's also lots of anger/hatred between the two divided camps of RISC vs CISC based designs as welll. |
| 04:25.06 | psycho_oreos | s/lll/ll/ |
| 04:25.21 | robbiethe1st | ...and yet Intel's processors are RISC as well, so... |
| 04:25.27 | robbiethe1st | (internally anyway) |
| 04:26.14 | robbiethe1st | I want to see Intel(most likely) come up with a chip that provides an x86 instruction set as well as an ARM one. |
| 04:26.22 | psycho_oreos | Initially they weren't :) I think RISC fans kept arguing on poor power management/efficiency and device able to flare up (becoming hot) real quickly. |
| 04:27.29 | robbiethe1st | Set it up correctly, and you'd be able to run the main OS in <native RISC instruction set> mode for extreme speed, with support for running ARM and x86 binaries, whichever happens to be available |
| 04:27.31 | psycho_oreos | That's where Intel struggles, they really don't care about ARM that much (in fact they sold their StrongARM branch a few years ago). They only want to shove x86 instruction set down their clientele's throats. |
| 04:29.26 | robbiethe1st | To be fair, I'd /love/ to have a (even Android) tablet that I could run x86 Windows apps on when needed(via a Wine-like layer), I think it'd be awesome. Lightweight most of the time, but with the power/capibility to run legacy x86 stuff when needed |
| 04:30.00 | robbiethe1st | Because -- unlike what MS thinks -- legacy apps are the main pull for x86 and even Windows. |
| 04:31.05 | robbiethe1st | Anyway, cya all later |
| 04:31.13 | psycho_oreos | Enabling more instruction sets on the fly would probably be more difficult. |
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| 04:49.58 | ShadowJK | qemu+wine + some X11 emu |
| 04:51.03 | ShadowJK | but everything is cloud-this and cloud-that these days, so a windows vm somewhere running vnc.. |
| 04:58.48 | psycho_oreos | Gaming through VNC would be fun, alas not everyone can afford the luxury of cloud computing and/or decent internet connectivity. |
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| 05:50.17 | Luke-Jr | psycho_oreos: I game through VNC sometimes. Localhost. |
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| 06:02.52 | Lava_Croft | it was fun to see doom3 on my n900's screen |
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| 06:19.42 | Macer | does vnc support direct rendering or something? |
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| 06:19.52 | Macer | figured there would be issues with the refresh rates heh |
| 06:23.01 | Macer | i should figure out how to get this su8w working on my n900 again |
| 06:23.29 | Macer | i vaguely remember having to edit some keymap to stop enter from acting like tapping the screen |
| 06:28.53 | freemangordon | Pali: http://oi44.tinypic.com/2004e2b.jpg |
| 06:29.09 | freemangordon | Pali: battery.reporting.last_full = 154 (0x9a) (int) |
| 06:29.30 | Pali | freemangordon: and what say bq27200 from sysfs? |
| 06:29.44 | freemangordon | Pali: no bq here, BME |
| 06:30.03 | Pali | ah.... orignal nokia bme... |
| 06:30.09 | freemangordon | yup |
| 06:30.10 | Pali | so what to do? |
| 06:30.24 | psycho_oreos | Luke-Jr, lol localhost :D yeah that is.. err rather effective (more like redundant) haha. |
| 06:30.31 | Pali | use design capacity? |
| 06:30.40 | freemangordon | Pali: I see no other option |
| 06:31.12 | freemangordon | Pali: does the same problem exist with bme-replacement? |
| 06:31.29 | Pali | ok, so put "if ( last_full < current ) last_full = design" into battery widget? |
| 06:31.32 | freemangordon | I remember kerio reporting similar |
| 06:31.42 | Luke-Jr | psycho_oreos: nah, it's a different video card than my monitor is plugged into :p |
| 06:31.43 | Pali | do not remember |
| 06:31.50 | Pali | Luke-Jr: hi! |
| 06:31.58 | Luke-Jr | hi Pali |
| 06:32.14 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm, no, if my charge drops < 154, the reported value will be bogus |
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| 06:32.29 | Pali | Luke-Jr: in kernel-power is patch ARM_6066_1_Fix_BUG_scheduling_while_atomic_swapper_0_0x00000002.diff from you |
| 06:32.37 | psycho_oreos | Luke-Jr, lolwut >_> I'm confused. Using multiple monitors or something? |
| 06:32.50 | Pali | it is needed and is OK for cssu kernel? |
| 06:32.52 | Luke-Jr | psycho_oreos: no |
| 06:32.52 | freemangordon | Pali: I'll get 153/154 , 100% |
| 06:32.55 | Luke-Jr | psycho_oreos: no, just one |
| 06:33.03 | Luke-Jr | psycho_oreos: connected to my Intel HD |
| 06:33.13 | Luke-Jr | psycho_oreos: I VNC into a virtual machine with a Radeon passthru'd |
| 06:33.21 | freemangordon | Pali: which will be wrong |
| 06:33.35 | Pali | freemangordon: 153/154 comes from BME? |
| 06:34.00 | psycho_oreos | Luke-Jr, ahh I now understand lol. I thought you were VNC localhost through multiple monitors or with N900. |
| 06:34.06 | freemangordon | Pali: 153 is the current charge (if my battery is discherged enough) |
| 06:34.29 | freemangordon | Pali: the point is that ^^^ if() will report incorrect values once that happen |
| 06:34.38 | Pali | freemangordon: then BME is broken... |
| 06:34.48 | freemangordon | Pali: yeah :( |
| 06:34.56 | Pali | maybe it is better to show what BME report, if all values are bad |
| 06:36.18 | freemangordon | do you need anything else? |
| 06:36.41 | freemangordon | Pali: (besides what I pasted in private chat) |
| 06:36.45 | Pali | no, nokia BME is broken |
| 06:36.53 | freemangordon | yep |
| 06:37.07 | Pali | maybe use battery.reporting.design |
| 06:37.11 | freemangordon | Pali: maybe just use design |
| 06:37.21 | freemangordon | only with BME is that |
| 06:37.33 | freemangordon | *that is |
| 06:37.36 | Pali | ok |
| 06:37.37 | Macer | is extkbd for bt keyboards? |
| 06:37.51 | freemangordon | Macer: not only |
| 06:38.09 | freemangordon | you can use it with USB kbds too |
| 06:38.17 | Macer | i see |
| 06:38.21 | Lava_Croft | goooooooogle: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65577 |
| 06:38.26 | Macer | is there a bthid pkg i need? |
| 06:38.30 | Lava_Croft | goooooooogle: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65577 |
| 06:38.30 | freemangordon | (and with PS/2 if you manage to somehow connect PS/2 kbd to n900 :D ) |
| 06:38.39 | Macer | haha |
| 06:38.42 | Lava_Croft | wasnt i talking to you last night |
| 06:38.46 | Macer | has someone actually done that? |
| 06:38.50 | Lava_Croft | use google man, its your friend! :) |
| 06:38.59 | Lava_Croft | that way freemangordon doesnt have to reply to you and can do actual important work |
| 06:39.10 | Macer | uhm |
| 06:39.25 | Lava_Croft | yeah, uhm! |
| 06:39.57 | freemangordon | Macer: hate to say it, but Lava_Croft is right, all the needed info is in the extkbd OP |
| 06:40.40 | Lava_Croft | its not an attempt to try and be unfriendly, its an attempt to learn you something important! :) |
| 06:40.49 | Lava_Croft | googling is an important skill for n900 users :\ |
| 06:41.21 | freemangordon | Macer: UPDATE4: 13.02.2011 Input BT plugin is auto-enabled, no more need to edit /etc/bluetooth/main.conf. Stock Bluetooth UI now has an option to connect BT HID devices |
| 06:41.22 | Luke-Jr | google is not your friend though! |
| 06:41.24 | Macer | but i already know how to use google and figured if the channel is active then it is 4x faster to simply see if someone gives a yes/no response heh |
| 06:41.33 | Lava_Croft | Macer: its 4x faster for you maybe |
| 06:41.34 | Pali | freemangordon: Maybe you can add XSBC-Maemo-Display-Name: to extkbd package? |
| 06:41.53 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm, I think there is one |
| 06:41.57 | Lava_Croft | Macer: realize that most people here are automagically inclined to help, no matter what they are currently doing:) |
| 06:42.04 | Lava_Croft | for me, that doesnt matter, i have no real skills |
| 06:42.08 | freemangordon | at least it shows as "External Keyboard Support" |
| 06:42.10 | psycho_oreos | <Lava_Croft> googling is an important skill for n900 users :\ <-- its not only an important skills for N900 owners but also for those whom have a keen interest with linux and/or other platforms. |
| 06:42.12 | Lava_Croft | but a lot of other folks here do important work! :) |
| 06:42.20 | freemangordon | (iirc) |
| 06:42.22 | Pali | freemangordon: I remember that keyboard or mouse package does not have |
| 06:42.28 | Macer | personally i use bing heh |
| 06:42.36 | Lava_Croft | Macer: we want them to spend as much time as they can on that important work, instead of reply to people who are too lazy to google:) |
| 06:42.43 | psycho_oreos | duckduckgo ftw ;) |
| 06:42.52 | Pali | freemangordon: Now I see that there is description: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/extkbd/1.0.3/ |
| 06:42.53 | Macer | psycho_oreos: hah |
| 06:43.15 | Lava_Croft | http://etherrag.blogspot.jp/2013/07/duck-duck-go-illusion-of-privacy.html |
| 06:43.16 | freemangordon | Pali: see :P |
| 06:43.24 | Macer | Lava_Croft: but see... they noticed important work by me asking about it ;) |
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| 06:43.45 | Lava_Croft | Macer: that is the natural tendency for people in communities like this to want to help out others |
| 06:43.56 | Lava_Croft | the responsibility is with you to use it wisely |
| 06:44.02 | Lava_Croft | its certainly not an infinite source |
| 06:44.05 | psycho_oreos | I wasn't serious fyi but lol most search engines these days are full of loopholes. They're no better than the way Swiss cheese was made ;) *ducks*. |
| 06:44.07 | Macer | plus i am asking because in a few i may be able to see if the enter key works properly |
| 06:44.20 | Macer | last i recall the mapping was off for the enter key |
| 06:44.29 | Macer | where it was mapped to tapping the screen |
| 06:45.01 | Macer | but who knows. maybe that has changed |
| 06:45.20 | Macer | let me connect this bt kb and see |
| 06:48.42 | Macer | ok |
| 06:48.52 | Macer | well... that seemed to just work lol |
| 06:49.02 | Macer | how about that |
| 06:49.41 | Macer | maybe i will look up a way to map the special keys on it some day heh |
| 06:49.47 | Macer | it has symbian keys |
| 06:51.07 | Macer | ah... the special characters dont seem to be working. |
| 06:51.12 | psycho_oreos | xev is one way to find out the special key codes. |
| 06:52.05 | Macer | yeah. maybe extkbd has an su8w map |
| 06:52.17 | Macer | but the special keys will be interesting |
| 06:52.51 | Macer | would love to map the symbian "home" key as the button on the top left of maemo |
| 06:53.56 | Macer | no nokia su8w in the list :-/ |
| 06:54.35 | freemangordon | Macer: for sure it is supported iirc |
| 06:54.46 | freemangordon | not sure how it is called though |
| 06:55.33 | Macer | hm |
| 06:55.56 | Macer | yeah im looking for a map that works |
| 06:57.50 | Macer | blah |
| 06:58.01 | Macer | cant get any of the fn type special characters to work |
| 06:58.03 | freemangordon | hmm, or not |
| 06:58.06 | Macer | like percentage at etc |
| 06:58.19 | freemangordon | however, gtg |
| 06:58.26 | Macer | letters work ok heh |
| 06:58.50 | Macer | i remember there was a keymap that kind of worked with it ... cant remember which one tho |
| 06:58.55 | Macer | it was one of the generic keymaps |
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| 07:00.01 | freemangordon | anyway, I gtg, bye |
| 07:00.13 | Macer | 111111111112333 |
| 07:00.19 | psycho_oreos | cya freemangordon |
| 07:00.33 | freemangordon | Macer: hmm? |
| 07:00.46 | freemangordon | which layout? |
| 07:01.00 | Macer | %%%%getting closerf heh |
| 07:01.04 | freemangordon | pc105? |
| 07:01.21 | Macer | tried 105 intl variant |
| 07:01.27 | Macer | still flakey |
| 07:02.13 | Macer | 123!"£ |
| 07:02.26 | Macer | oh... |
| 07:03.06 | Macer | 123!@#$5% |
| 07:03.38 | Macer | seems i found it... although.... |
| 07:03.59 | Macer | generic 101 works fine |
| 07:04.22 | Macer | but you have to choose USA and none for variant while the kb is connected |
| 07:04.34 | Macer | and the enter key is still memssed up |
| 07:04.54 | Macer | well.. i'll iron this out later |
| 07:05.31 | Macer | i have to hold ctrl and hit enter to get it to send the cr |
| 07:06.00 | Macer | hm |
| 07:06.09 | Macer | when the device is slid open i don't |
| 07:06.20 | Macer | so it is still a problem with the keymap for when the device is closed |
| 07:06.28 | Macer | same as before |
| 07:07.56 | Macer | maybe later i can use xev and make an actual map for the su8w. although im sure there arent too many ppl with them nowadays |
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| 07:08.49 | Macer | but at least extkbd seems to somewhat work with it |
| 07:08.55 | Macer | just a matter of a proper map |
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| 08:20.42 | sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon: promote "tracker-cfg" to testing and I will feature it in the testing squad thread. |
| 08:22.24 | sixwheeledbeast | I feel so far there has not been much response so will try and feature some package(s) to test over a week. Hopefully we can promote stuff this way. |
| 08:23.16 | kerio | what's tracker-cfg? |
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| 08:30.07 | sixwheeledbeast | a gui for tracker configuration |
| 08:30.22 | sixwheeledbeast | throttle, nowatch etc... |
| 08:31.30 | sixwheeledbeast | It is in testing, I have been using it for a while but TBH never tested properly for optification |
| 08:31.53 | sixwheeledbeast | oh, fmg pushed to testing. |
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| 08:43.05 | freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: it was in -devel |
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| 09:10.52 | radambe | just got my first N900 - from what i've read, am i correct in that I should flash 2009SE_20.2010.36-2.002_PR_COMBINED_002_ARM.bin then install CSSU? |
| 09:11.18 | radambe | as opposed to installing 21.2011.38-1.002 |
| 09:11.19 | radambe | ? |
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| 09:13.23 | Macer | you can update from either one afaik |
| 09:13.29 | Macer | ~cssu |
| 09:13.30 | infobot | rumour has it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
| 09:13.55 | Macer | that will tell you what you need to do |
| 09:15.41 | radambe | ok thanks |
| 09:15.51 | radambe | yeah that answered my question i think |
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| 09:27.50 | psycho_oreos | Should also flash eMMC if you want to make it as close to factory setup as well. |
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| 09:52.16 | kerio | radambe: global, not 002 |
| 09:52.22 | kerio | always global |
| 09:53.19 | radambe | just used 21.2011.38-1.002 and installed CSSU successfully from mac os 10.8.4 with flasher 3.5 |
| 09:53.26 | radambe | not sure if it is global or not |
| 09:53.37 | radambe | got that bin from a link on the forum |
| 09:53.46 | kerio | ~pr131 |
| 09:53.46 | infobot | [combined] the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 09:53.51 | radambe | why global? |
| 09:53.59 | kerio | because why not? |
| 09:54.08 | radambe | oh ok heh |
| 09:54.34 | kerio | localized PRs are less used |
| 09:55.32 | radambe | found this page that was useful in getting flasher 3.5 working on osx 10.7 |
| 09:55.34 | radambe | 10.8 sorry |
| 09:55.36 | radambe | http://blog.omgmog.net/post/factory-reset-nokia-n900-from-a-mac/ |
| 09:56.12 | radambe | someone should add the tips on that page to a forum sticky somehwere |
| 09:56.57 | kerio | is flasher opensource? |
| 09:57.03 | kerio | 0xFFFF can't do emmc |
| 09:57.06 | kerio | iirc |
| 09:58.00 | kerio | radambe: that guy is a dick |
| 09:59.44 | Pali | kerio: yes, 0xFFFF does not have implemented eMMC flashing yet... |
| 09:59.50 | Pali | and I do not have time for it |
| 10:00.05 | kerio | it's ok |
| 10:00.15 | kerio | we don't really need it |
| 10:01.04 | kerio | hell, we don't even need a flasher for anything except to load rescueos |
| 10:02.15 | radambe | what would ya'll recommend for a first few mods, apps etc to get me goin on this thing? |
| 10:02.20 | radambe | CSSU install successful |
| 10:02.24 | kerio | yay |
| 10:02.25 | kerio | which cssu? |
| 10:02.49 | radambe | i chose stable |
| 10:04.55 | psycho_oreos | Depends on what you want out of it, cpumem-applet is very nifty for instance. fMMS (if you have SIM card inserted and you want to transreceive MMS), etc. |
| 10:05.24 | kerio | openmediaplayer is kind of a must |
| 10:05.46 | radambe | yeah this is going to be my 2nd phone / personal phone |
| 10:05.55 | radambe | iphone for work + n900 for shits |
| 10:05.56 | psycho_oreos | Newer worldclock as well if you want portrait functionality. |
| 10:07.06 | psycho_oreos | When you bought the N900, did the seller say anything about the microUSB port? |
| 10:07.15 | radambe | no |
| 10:07.21 | kerio | ~usbfix |
| 10:07.22 | infobot | from memory, usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) |
| 10:07.32 | radambe | got it on fleabay, i think it may actually be a fake |
| 10:07.37 | kerio | nah |
| 10:07.42 | radambe | sticker says made in finland |
| 10:07.50 | radambe | is that possible? |
| 10:07.51 | kerio | you installed cssu |
| 10:08.03 | psycho_oreos | Should ask the seller if the seller did any work on it. If the seller didn't then I'd look into getting that microUSB port fixed before it breaks. |
| 10:08.10 | kerio | fake n900s exist, but they run some shit that's not maemo |
| 10:08.24 | psycho_oreos | Most likely hacked up symbian. |
| 10:08.42 | psycho_oreos | Plus they have weird features like TV receiver when the genuine one doesn't. |
| 10:08.50 | radambe | word, saw another youtube video that claimed no n900's were made in finland |
| 10:09.12 | psycho_oreos | Finland made N900 were those pre-production ones. The actual N900 were made in South Korea (i.e. production ones). |
| 10:09.28 | radambe | so this could be a pre-production? |
| 10:09.30 | kerio | nah, KIRFs are usually some flavour of android now |
| 10:09.38 | kerio | radambe: who cares? |
| 10:09.45 | kerio | btw, check the hw revision |
| 10:09.52 | kerio | /proc/component* |
| 10:10.21 | psycho_oreos | pre-production iinm does not start with number 2, it starts with number 1. For the first four digits that is. |
| 10:10.50 | japa-fi | usbfix: basically solder some more material to hold the USB port where it's supposed to stay? |
| 10:10.55 | kerio | yup |
| 10:11.34 | radambe | how do i see hw rev again? |
| 10:11.41 | psycho_oreos | Its also a small incentive to get your microUSB fixed before it actually breaks. |
| 10:11.48 | kerio | /proc/component_version |
| 10:11.54 | psycho_oreos | grep hw /proc/component |
| 10:12.08 | psycho_oreos | grep hw /proc/component_version* |
| 10:12.26 | japa-fi | psycho_oreos, was not aware of that before. Now that I looked at the thread just quoted and images from seki, does not look like a big deal |
| 10:12.30 | radambe | hw-build 2204 |
| 10:13.02 | japa-fi | I have done some soldering, does not look impossible task. Apart from disassembling the n900 |
| 10:13.09 | radambe | made in finland 2204, heh |
| 10:13.10 | psycho_oreos | That number seems like its an actual production based. Mine are 2204 and none of them were made in Finland. |
| 10:13.35 | radambe | could it be refurbed in finalnd and thus the sticker was changed? potentially? |
| 10:13.41 | radambe | i dont really care |
| 10:13.44 | radambe | it seems to work |
| 10:13.45 | psycho_oreos | japa-fi, sure but if its not dealt with, it can cause issues. When it breaks you may have more issues than you first thought. |
| 10:14.27 | radambe | is there a recommended alternative package manager / app browser? |
| 10:14.45 | psycho_oreos | Also fake N900 cannot be flashed with proper maemo firmware. The flasher will most likely bicker before failing. |
| 10:15.08 | radambe | appdownloader - just found it |
| 10:15.11 | radambe | will give it a try |
| 10:16.40 | radambe | is anyone using google mail activesync to sync contacts and calendars? |
| 10:20.46 | psycho_oreos | There's hardly anything wrong with HAM (Hildon Application Manager). If you want to experiment, there's fapman but bewarned of its shortcomings. |
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| 11:00.55 | LjL-Alps | psycho_oreos: one thing not very comfy about HAM is you can only install one package at a time, so if you're installing more than one thing, you have to input each of them and wait for each |
| 11:01.21 | kerio | HAM is slow as shit |
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| 11:02.09 | LjL-Alps | well for me fapman takes forever on "resolving dependencies" |
| 11:02.31 | LjL-Alps | anyway i'm not sure why fapman is shunned, don't they all just call apt-get in the endd |
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| 11:02.50 | kerio | no |
| 11:03.05 | kerio | and the issue is *how* you invoke dpkg |
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| 11:17.23 | psycho_oreos | LjL-Alps, been there had that ages ago. Though when it comes to updates, HAM is preferred over fapman. |
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| 11:51.17 | LjL-Alps | the N900 is said to have a weak battery but to me it seems to be on par with my Milestone |
| 11:52.53 | kerio | LjL-Alps: it's surprisingly resilient |
| 11:53.01 | kerio | and you can get a big one |
| 11:53.31 | LjL-Alps | i don't think i will, li-ion batteries make me very uneasy so i'd rather stick with the original one |
| 11:55.25 | LjL-Alps | one thing i miss from Android's UI - when scrollable lists are long, Android makes a scroll "handle" show up, since otherwise swipe-to-scroll can be very slow |
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| 12:39.40 | jonwil | hi |
| 12:47.04 | Iridos | hm, maybe I should get a 2nd battery... something with the charging process seems wrong. The nokia charger stopped working and (while I haven't sampled very many), pretty much all other chargers other than computers have stopped working, too |
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| 13:04.56 | kerio | Iridos: are you sure it's not the cable or the port? |
| 13:11.10 | Iridos | which port |
| 13:11.18 | kerio | musb |
| 13:11.25 | Iridos | possible |
| 13:12.49 | Iridos | I think the chargers you connect to a power outlet don't do the full usb negotiation dialog... the nokia one just connects two pins, IIRC... so if it's the musb port, then the problem is in the bit that recognizes those chargers... |
| 13:13.00 | Iridos | and hence it still works with computer usb ports |
| 13:13.03 | Iridos | (?) |
| 13:13.55 | Iridos | it sholdn't be the cable, as that works on a computer, but not on an external charger with an usb outlet |
| 13:14.18 | kerio | my modest opinion is that your musb port is starting to break |
| 13:14.50 | Iridos | I don't really have any other musb-charged device, so I cannot test if the charger would work with that |
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| 13:24.25 | Iridos | kerio, my modest opinion is that I'd really prefer it to be something else :P |
| 13:24.41 | kerio | the universe doesn't care about our opinions though |
| 13:24.52 | Iridos | or do you have any good suggestion how I can prevent it from breaking ("don't ever charge it anymore" is not an option) |
| 13:25.17 | Iridos | breaking further* |
| 13:26.15 | Iridos | I don't think that the usb port is a user-repairable part either :( |
| 13:26.24 | kerio | ~usbfix |
| 13:26.24 | infobot | well, usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) |
| 13:28.57 | Iridos | kerio, that's for making it more robust before it's broken? |
| 13:29.33 | Iridos | looks like |
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| 13:41.08 | sixwheeledbeast | I had an issue were an N900 thought a charger was a computer, this was a uUSB fault. |
| 13:41.41 | sixwheeledbeast | I reinforced the port and in doing so it repaired the fault |
| 13:43.23 | Iridos | hm, nice |
| 13:43.34 | Iridos | you used the soldering method? |
| 13:45.13 | Iridos | well, only will be able too do soldering on the weekend when I visit my parents. (hmm, well, or here by borrowing) |
| 13:47.35 | Iridos | there's another thing I noticed since I had the n900 open... 2 light dots have formed over the last year on the screen of the 900... now I see that comes from something pressing against the screen from beneath when opening the keyboard |
| 13:51.41 | Iridos | err... can that really be an original one for that price? http://www.amazon.de/Original-Nokia-Ersatzakku-BL-5J-XpressMusic/dp/B001RUA2E6/ |
| 13:53.21 | Iridos | exploding battery in your phone can ruin the day |
| 13:54.04 | Iridos | ok, it's not |
| 13:55.54 | Iridos | "if it looks too good to be true, it probably is" |
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| 14:13.22 | psycho_oreos | Exploding battery on a nice and somewhat rare handheld can ruin your hard earnt money apart from making the device even more rare. |
| 14:22.35 | kerio | exploding battery on a handheld can seriously hurt |
| 14:22.56 | kerio | Iridos: there was a chinese battery on aliexpress that had a 1600mAh capacity |
| 14:23.45 | kerio | Iridos: http://www.amazon.de/cellePhone-PolarCell-Li-Ion-XpressMusic-ersetzt/dp/B004IHNVXY/ this one is also really good |
| 14:23.49 | kerio | about 1500mAh |
| 14:23.59 | Iridos | psycho_oreos, it could also make the amount of hands or other body parts you've been grown to rely on having more scarce than you'd like |
| 14:24.14 | Iridos | kerio, without exploding? |
| 14:24.24 | kerio | sure |
| 14:24.28 | Iridos | sounds good |
| 14:24.50 | psycho_oreos | Iridos, heh dismemberfest |
| 14:25.21 | Iridos | kerio, together with http://www.amazon.de/Nokia-DT-33-Akku-Ladeschale/dp/B004YIPUV8 would provide for a "plan B" in case the micro-usb breaks? |
| 14:25.31 | kerio | sure |
| 14:25.42 | Iridos | although... crappy plan B, as you have to boot the damn thing daily |
| 14:25.45 | kerio | i've never used one, but everyone tells me that the nokia table charger is good |
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| 14:27.36 | Iridos | well, really I'd prefer the usb port to keep working... but I might not get a choice |
| 14:28.27 | Iridos | psycho_oreos, my other nick is "CutMeOwnThroat"... this would be so much more apt now |
| 14:28.59 | psycho_oreos | Iridos, rather emo than apt :) |
| 14:29.26 | Iridos | psycho_oreos, it's a Pratchett character's name |
| 14:32.00 | psycho_oreos | Iridos, ahh well I have no clue then. Apart from knowing Pratchett that is used on a IRCd's server's name that is pretty much it. |
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| 14:34.14 | Iridos | but yes... I was referring to the literal sense of the name being apt for the occasion :) |
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| 15:02.37 | LjL-Alps | i think we should adapt supl-proxy to provide ephemeris and location based on opencellid or something, even if some SUPL server that works is found again, i guess one can't rely on it working forever |
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| 15:17.35 | SpeedEvil | ponders kinking to his open-community-GPS thingy page, but can't be bothered. |
| 15:20.23 | psycho_oreos | 10 more days and no more crap about ubuntu edge story. |
| 15:21.10 | psycho_oreos | 10 more days and they are ~$22m short of the required goal. |
| 15:24.04 | SpeedEvil | sighs. |
| 15:24.45 | SpeedEvil | I'm at teh point I favour almost anyone who isn't apple and google in mobile space. |
| 15:24.59 | SpeedEvil | Simply from the point that more diversity is good. |
| 15:25.21 | SpeedEvil | Even though I have issues with the way BB/WM/Ubuntu/FF is doing it. |
| 15:25.52 | GeneralAntilles | I just want something that doesn't actively piss me off. |
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| 15:26.42 | ShadowJK | indeed. |
| 15:28.01 | GeneralAntilles | BB10 kinda sorta isn't terrible |
| 15:28.10 | GeneralAntilles | But I miss the dev community from Maemo. |
| 15:28.30 | GeneralAntilles | No decent IRC client, no MetaWatch application, etc. |
| 15:29.20 | ShadowJK | Couple of people at work have Lumias. They say they're "nice" and smooth and what not, but disappointed in them because you can't actually *do* anything on them, apart from swiping scrolling and stuff. |
| 15:30.03 | psycho_oreos | If one seriously still believes in less than 10 days ubuntu edge will fly, I'm sure pigs can too fly. They've only managed to raise a little under 10 million and they still need at least 22 million. |
| 15:30.34 | psycho_oreos | I'm not hating ubuntu edge, I just don't think it will fly from the get-go point of view. |
| 15:30.35 | SpeedEvil | Absolutely no way is edge happening - in the sense that they will meet that goal. |
| 15:30.47 | SpeedEvil | Unless someone puts in 20 million. |
| 15:30.52 | SpeedEvil | Which is quite possible. |
| 15:31.24 | SpeedEvil | I don't know what shuttleworths fortune is right now. |
| 15:32.22 | psycho_oreos | Possible but highly unlikely. Sure I will be the one eating my own words come after 10 days and ubuntu edge does get the green light. |
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| 15:34.20 | psycho_oreos | I've heard nothing but bad stuff about W8M. I'm sure lumia is just sitting on top and trying to polish the turd. |
| 15:34.25 | GeneralAntilles | They can take that number to investors and carriers. |
| 15:34.55 | SpeedEvil | GeneralAntilles: quite |
| 15:35.18 | SpeedEvil | 'We got 15000 people to pay up front for a handset that diddn't exist' |
| 15:35.24 | SpeedEvil | Is a useful statement |
| 15:35.33 | GeneralAntilles | It's a stunt that doesn't have any bad outcomes. |
| 15:35.45 | GeneralAntilles | If funded, woo, if not, woo. |
| 15:36.09 | SpeedEvil | Well - funded, then spectacularly miss the deadline, and turn up with flaky hardware. |
| 15:36.13 | psycho_oreos | If its not funded, critics would have won their merit. |
| 15:36.23 | SpeedEvil | That'd be a bad outcome. |
| 15:36.35 | SpeedEvil | psycho_oreos: Not so much as if it was a 'sane' goal. |
| 15:37.04 | SpeedEvil | If you miss a $1M goal - then yes - there is a real argument that you can'g get 1500 people to put down money. |
| 15:37.30 | psycho_oreos | SpeedEvil, that was my point - all along.. heck you don't even need a critic to tell you its unlikely that crowd funded project will fly. Albeit there's this <you_know_who_on_TMO> still raves on about ubuntu edge. |
| 15:37.34 | GeneralAntilles | psycho_oreos, critics are clueless. |
| 15:37.45 | psycho_oreos | GeneralAntilles, not always. |
| 15:38.08 | GeneralAntilles | SpeedEvil, well, sure, or Shuttleworth could run away with the money |
| 15:38.38 | GeneralAntilles | Critics are missing the point. |
| 15:38.57 | GeneralAntilles | Canonical set it up so they win either way. |
| 15:39.20 | GeneralAntilles | Whether it's funded or not, they still benefit if it generates interest. |
| 15:39.53 | psycho_oreos | The case in point is the device, not the idea of crowd funding. |
| 15:41.15 | psycho_oreos | If Canonical were to care so much about crowd funding, they would have had their advertisements set up in some other fashion rather than boasting about this brand new device that is going to "rewrite history". |
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| 15:41.45 | GeneralAntilles | I'm evidently not communicating my point clearly. |
| 15:42.05 | SpeedEvil | I understand what you mean. |
| 15:42.11 | SpeedEvil | I think. |
| 15:43.44 | psycho_oreos | So in that case the losers would be those who threw their money into this bottomless wishing well? |
| 15:44.28 | SpeedEvil | They get it back at the end of the period |
| 15:44.31 | SpeedEvil | 30 days |
| 15:44.34 | SpeedEvil | they lose nothing |
| 15:46.46 | ShadowJK | Realistically, it probably doesn't take long for one of the china clonemakers to throw together a mediatek or allwinner SoC and a modem into a plastic case |
| 15:47.52 | SpeedEvil | wishes 'open drivers' wasn't such a comedic concept in mobile. |
| 15:48.09 | SpeedEvil | I think I probably have about the only completely documented phone ever. |
| 15:48.14 | SpeedEvil | Openmoko GTA01 |
| 15:48.24 | SpeedEvil | After the GSM chipset drivers leaked. |
| 15:48.30 | SpeedEvil | chipset docs |
| 15:48.36 | SpeedEvil | No GPU. |
| 15:49.15 | SpeedEvil | Well - the bluetooth module and the GPS are undocumented. |
| 15:51.08 | GeneralAntilles | I wish TI hadn't bailed. |
| 15:56.45 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 15:57.06 | SpeedEvil | though there were issues with them, ... |
| 15:59.13 | GeneralAntilles | Pigheadedness on the DSP bullshit. |
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| 17:08.45 | radambe | im having some camera issues |
| 17:08.45 | radambe | i just freshly flashed |
| 17:08.45 | radambe | and installed cssu |
| 17:08.46 | radambe | linux power user kernel (with overclock support) |
| 17:08.52 | radambe | also fcam drivers, fcam, and a better camera |
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| 17:09.22 | radambe | now, when i hit the camera button to open the camera i get a message "operation failed" and the camera app quits instantly |
| 17:09.45 | radambe | A Better Camera, and Fcam both also fail |
| 17:10.18 | radambe | anyone have any thoughts? |
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| 17:16.58 | radambe | found http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=39091&page=4 will try some of the suggestions - uninstalling Fcam application first |
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| 17:20.32 | radambe | yep, uninstalling the Fcam application (not the drivers), then rebooting brought the stock camera app, and A Better Camera back to life |
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| 17:29.59 | Pali | freemangordon: look at kp52 problem: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1366719&postcount=121 |
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| 17:51.00 | quackquack | how do i jtag my n900? |
| 17:51.13 | quackquack | i see no information in the wiki or anywhere |
| 17:51.17 | quackquack | can anyone help me? |
| 17:52.05 | quackquack | and also can i read the SRAM registers via jtag? |
| 17:52.15 | quackquack | i am planning to port coreboot to n900. |
| 17:52.34 | quackquack | which is why i need to know. if someone can help me will be really nice. |
| 17:52.36 | quackquack | TIA. |
| 17:59.37 | wmarone_ | I doubt the JTAG pins were routed out anywhere in the final PCB... |
| 17:59.47 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm? |
| 17:59.55 | freemangordon | I see no problem |
| 18:00.13 | Pali | I do not remeber what was changed... so maybe you know more |
| 18:00.42 | freemangordon | Pali: 0x500000 is needed so harm codec nodes to work |
| 18:00.59 | Pali | ok, write info to thread |
| 18:01.26 | freemangordon | Pali: but that should be present sisnce kp47 or so |
| 18:01.30 | freemangordon | *since |
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| 18:02.01 | quackquack | wmarone_, so no jtag? |
| 18:02.09 | quackquack | hmmmm |
| 18:02.17 | bennypr0fane | hello, I have a bad N900-problem. Would you guys take a look at it? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1366294#post1366294 |
| 18:02.19 | wmarone_ | quackquack: I haven't seen anyone mention it in ~5 years |
| 18:02.22 | freemangordon | Pali: what to write? sorry, didn;t get it |
| 18:02.25 | wmarone_ | err, four |
| 18:02.45 | quackquack | okay. is it because pin muxing? |
| 18:02.54 | quackquack | warfare, |
| 18:03.01 | quackquack | wmarone_, |
| 18:03.05 | quackquack | sorry warfare |
| 18:03.22 | wmarone_ | no idea, but no one's mentioned having any sort of JTAG access, let alone pins, since it was released |
| 18:03.32 | wmarone_ | and I didn't see any in the schematics when they got leaked |
| 18:03.50 | quackquack | l1,l2,l3,l4 are useless. |
| 18:03.57 | freemangordon | bennypr0fane: corrupted fs? |
| 18:04.08 | quackquack | they dont speak about anything useful. |
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| 18:04.27 | wmarone_ | quackquack: not surprising, really. |
| 18:04.28 | quackquack | you have the actual schematics? |
| 18:04.54 | wmarone_ | not anymore, I think I lost it 2 years ago |
| 18:04.57 | sixwheeledbeast | radambe: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1365295&postcount=27 |
| 18:05.08 | quackquack | aah. ouch......... |
| 18:05.14 | wmarone_ | quackquack: why the N900, anyway? |
| 18:05.35 | quackquack | wish to use it as an EHCI-Debug device. |
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| 18:05.48 | quackquack | so i can port coreboot to T410 and t420 |
| 18:05.51 | quackquack | thats why. |
| 18:05.55 | wmarone_ | ah |
| 18:06.06 | quackquack | using a coreboot will help ease lot of hassle. |
| 18:06.55 | wmarone_ | coreboot on both ends is necessary? |
| 18:07.15 | sixwheeledbeast | Iridos: Yes, soldering. ONLY EVER solder the uUSB port never glue or epoxy it just makes a mess and harder to repair correctly. |
| 18:07.17 | quackquack | not a necessary. but helps like anything. |
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| 18:07.43 | quackquack | if we can port coreboot to it. then first one more arm arch device added. |
| 18:07.46 | wmarone_ | quackquack: why not use a beagleboard? It has actual USB ports instead of the weak micro-usb port on the N900 |
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| 18:07.59 | quackquack | and secondly it can help us a lot in debugging. |
| 18:08.19 | Iridos | sixwheeledbeast, will try on the weekend when I have the tools and crossing my fingers it fixes the problems I already see |
| 18:08.19 | quackquack | you cannot carry it in pocket and make a receive calls while debugging. |
| 18:08.21 | quackquack | thats why. |
| 18:08.24 | quackquack | xD |
| 18:08.51 | wmarone_ | I think the beagleboard would be a much better target for you than the N900 |
| 18:08.52 | quackquack | and beaglebone has issues. |
| 18:09.12 | wmarone_ | would the beaglebone be a better choice? |
| 18:09.23 | quackquack | adurbin from #coreboot has tried. |
| 18:09.35 | quackquack | and also gnutoo-x60 from #coreboot. |
| 18:09.42 | quackquack | but i was told its a heck of an issue. |
| 18:09.52 | wmarone_ | ahh |
| 18:09.54 | sixwheeledbeast | Iridos: see !yt for videos on taking it apart also see ~usbfix thread regarding reinforcing |
| 18:09.54 | quackquack | i dont wish to buy an expensive debugger. |
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| 18:10.00 | quackquack | when i can use the good old n900. |
| 18:10.20 | wmarone_ | well, I imagine that porting coreboot to the N900 won't be any easier |
| 18:10.30 | Iridos | !yt |
| 18:10.39 | quackquack | nishanth told me actually it should be much easy. |
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| 18:11.02 | quackquack | he told me its infact easy to hack the BL2 and carry on. |
| 18:11.06 | wmarone_ | huh |
| 18:11.13 | quackquack | because BL2 doesnt require signing. |
| 18:11.16 | Iridos | sixwheeledbeast, saw the usbfix one, thanks |
| 18:11.17 | wmarone_ | true |
| 18:11.27 | wmarone_ | nothing past NOLO is signed |
| 18:11.39 | freemangordon | Pali: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1366780&postcount=124 |
| 18:11.42 | quackquack | no he said we can replace NOLO itself. |
| 18:11.50 | wmarone_ | really |
| 18:11.51 | sixwheeledbeast | Iridos: !yt = youtube |
| 18:11.52 | wmarone_ | huh |
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| 18:11.56 | quackquack | yes. |
| 18:11.58 | wmarone_ | been a long time since I looked apparently |
| 18:12.12 | wmarone_ | my N900 is sitting disassembled these days |
| 18:12.16 | Iridos | sixwheeledbeast, yes... thought there was a bot linking me to a concrete url... :) |
| 18:12.23 | wmarone_ | anyway, I have to go for a bit |
| 18:12.25 | wmarone_ | bbiaf |
| 18:12.42 | quackquack | NishanthMenon> anyways, it allows folks to hack in their own second stage+ bootloader |
| 18:12.54 | quackquack | okay wmarone_ tyt |
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| 18:14.18 | sixwheeledbeast | Iridos: sorry no, I use duckduckgo so this is a bang link ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVEHm325-z8 https://duckduckgo.com/bang.html |
| 18:14.50 | Iridos | sixwheeledbeast, so do I... I actually did just think "he used the duckduckgo syntax" but then didn't remark on it :P |
| 18:15.08 | Iridos | sixwheeledbeast, admittedly, I use !g a lot |
| 18:15.10 | sixwheeledbeast | :) |
| 18:16.08 | sixwheeledbeast | Iridos: DDG is great i have my own DDG search URL saved not touched !g in ages. |
| 18:16.49 | Iridos | "my own ddg search url"? |
| 18:17.28 | quackquack | using cold flash? can i even load x-loader? |
| 18:17.29 | Iridos | sixwheeledbeast, dunno... there's actually a lot of searches where ddg doesn't find sh...ore, while in !g it's hit #1 |
| 18:17.34 | quackquack | incase i screw it up? |
| 18:17.47 | freemangordon | guys, anyone knowing PHP here? |
| 18:18.01 | sixwheeledbeast | You can add features by adding strings to the end of the url. like save off and uk and supersize etc. |
| 18:18.14 | Iridos | ah, right... never bothered so far |
| 18:18.43 | Iridos | sixwheeledbeast, my search bars are configured for ddg, and whenever it doesn't seem to work well enough, I just switch |
| 18:19.23 | sixwheeledbeast | Iridos - my URL as an example: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=&kl=uk-en&kp=-1&kh=-1&kj=o&kx=b&ky=e&ks=m&kw=s&ka=e&ko=s&k4=-1&k1=-1 |
| 18:19.50 | Iridos | /o\ |
| 18:20.48 | quackquack | x-loader is 2nd loader image? |
| 18:20.59 | quackquack | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80840 |
| 18:21.07 | quackquack | isnt it the first loader. |
| 18:21.13 | quackquack | or initial loader |
| 18:22.39 | Iridos | sixwheeledbeast, also... "so you are the OTHER ddg user" ;) |
| 18:23.14 | freemangordon | Pali: do you know PHP? |
| 18:24.14 | bennypr0fane | freemangordon, how can I find out whether or not fs corruption is the problem? If it is, can you think of any fix other than reflashing? |
| 18:24.26 | sixwheeledbeast | Iridos: I am sure more are switching, google are tracking people to much. The more people get wise to it the more google will become out of favour |
| 18:24.27 | freemangordon | bennypr0fane: rescueos |
| 18:24.33 | freemangordon | ~rescueos |
| 18:24.34 | infobot | i heard rescue-os is http://206.253.166.96/N900/rescueOS/ |
| 18:25.14 | bennypr0fane | can I boot that with U-Boot, or will it boot from sdcard by default? |
| 18:25.34 | freemangordon | bennypr0fane: you need flasher to boot that |
| 18:25.50 | bennypr0fane | i.e. I boot it from a pc? |
| 18:25.54 | freemangordon | yep |
| 18:26.06 | freemangordon | read the README |
| 18:26.10 | bennypr0fane | ok |
| 18:26.13 | bennypr0fane | thanks |
| 18:26.54 | freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: any objections me promoting tracker-cfg to -testing? |
| 18:27.34 | kerio | bennypr0fane: you can boot it from uboot too |
| 18:27.41 | kerio | but you need to configure it, obviously |
| 18:28.18 | Pali | freemangordon: no :-) and I'm happy |
| 18:28.52 | Pali | freemangordon: what you need? |
| 18:29.04 | freemangordon | Pali: we need to find someone to give a hane, I hate to shoot blindly, esp when it comes to a production system |
| 18:29.25 | freemangordon | Pali: switching to #maemo-admin |
| 18:29.31 | Pali | so I'm not right person |
| 18:30.16 | bennypr0fane | kerio I can boot rescueos from uboot?`how would I add it to boot menu? If not, back when I last used flasher, it was only available for Win XP. Can I run it from Linux now? |
| 18:30.18 | sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon: I suppose not it's just the lack of maintainer for the pkg issue. If a bug is found later who will fix it? I would like to test it correctly before any further promotion. FWIW there are a good few packages I would like to see in testing on the DARP wiki. |
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| 18:31.42 | freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: well, I guess someone might want to become a maintainer if a bug is found |
| 18:32.07 | freemangordon | but keeping a piece of SW in -devel is plain stupid to me |
| 18:32.12 | freemangordon | s/is/seems/ |
| 18:32.25 | freemangordon | oh |
| 18:32.41 | kerio | bennypr0fane: http://raw.github.com/NIN101/N900_RescueOS/master/uboot_item_by_kerio |
| 18:33.09 | kerio | put 2.6.37 and rescueOS-1.1.img in /opt/boot, that file in /etc/bootmenu.d/ and then run u-boot-update-bootmenu |
| 18:33.10 | freemangordon | is going to finish his coffee before writing anything more here :) |
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| 18:35.22 | bennypr0fane | kerio cool thanks |
| 18:38.44 | DrCode | hi all |
| 18:38.53 | DrCode | I have strange problem |
| 18:38.53 | DrCode | I bout microsd 64Gb |
| 18:38.53 | DrCode | I can format it in maemo has vfat |
| 18:38.54 | DrCode | and also in linux |
| 18:39.04 | DrCode | but I can't format it into ext3 or ext4 |
| 18:39.25 | freemangordon | DrCode: change the prtition ID |
| 18:39.29 | DrCode | also ext2 give me error when I copy |
| 18:39.30 | freemangordon | *partition |
| 18:39.39 | DrCode | vfat or extfat work perfect , any idea? |
| 18:39.41 | sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon: Yes, I think the only packages that should aim to stay in devel indefinitely are broken or optification issue ones, like *patch and file-roller; for example. |
| 18:40.20 | DrCode | I use ext3 in part ID |
| 18:40.25 | DrCode | I use gparted |
| 18:40.26 | DrCode | also |
| 18:40.32 | freemangordon | DrCode: and what is the error? |
| 18:40.42 | freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: yup |
| 18:41.03 | DrCode | U mean in gparted device , its default msdos |
| 18:41.30 | DrCode | JBD: no valid journal superblock found |
| 18:41.31 | DrCode | [ 1312.919905] EXT3-fs (sdd1): error loading journal |
| 18:42.04 | freemangordon | DrCode: what error gives you mkfs.ext3? |
| 18:42.11 | DrCode | I use debian and ubuntu , same problem |
| 18:42.32 | sixwheeledbeast | the whole idea is to have a testing platform for extras and I'd kick the rubbish back to devel so sources are available. |
| 18:42.38 | DrCode | no error |
| 18:42.39 | DrCode | it say done |
| 18:42.54 | freemangordon | did you sync before removing the card? |
| 18:43.03 | DrCode | but when I try to mount it , I got this error |
| 18:43.32 | freemangordon | DrCode: elaborate please, how do you connect the card with your PC? |
| 18:43.43 | DrCode | hmm |
| 18:43.43 | DrCode | no |
| 18:43.55 | DrCode | I use card reader |
| 18:44.00 | freemangordon | DrCode: using mass storage mode? |
| 18:44.02 | DrCode | microsd -> card reader -?> usb |
| 18:44.28 | DrCode | yes |
| 18:44.30 | DrCode | no |
| 18:44.35 | freemangordon | hmm, so mkfs.ext3 says it is fine, but you cant mount it? |
| 18:44.37 | DrCode | I don't connect it by n900 phone |
| 18:44.43 | DrCode | I use it with card reader |
| 18:44.59 | DrCode | yes |
| 18:45.01 | DrCode | I need to connect it into n900 ? |
| 18:45.18 | DrCode | I test it also with my laptop |
| 18:45.27 | freemangordon | DrCode: with the same card reader? |
| 18:45.36 | DrCode | I have microSD |
| 18:45.52 | DrCode | slot |
| 18:46.00 | freemangordon | what card is that? |
| 18:47.01 | DrCode | yes |
| 18:47.04 | DrCode | I bout it in ebay |
| 18:47.15 | DrCode | Kingston 64Gb MicroSD |
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| 18:47.36 | freemangordon | DrCode: did you try to put it in n900 and format it from there? |
| 18:48.32 | DrCode | http://www.ebay.com/itm/190865013556?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 |
| 18:48.37 | DrCode | no |
| 18:48.39 | DrCode | I use card reader |
| 18:48.47 | DrCode | why is there diffrent? |
| 18:49.06 | freemangordon | sholdn |
| 18:49.12 | freemangordon | should't be |
| 18:50.01 | DrCode | ok |
| 18:50.01 | DrCode | strange |
| 18:50.03 | freemangordon | but who knows, maybe you'll succeed from n900 |
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| 18:51.40 | DrCode | mybe |
| 18:51.56 | DrCode | i will try |
| 18:51.59 | DrCode | thankyou |
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| 19:22.34 | ecc3g | apparently the answer is no, but not sure what the status of the fuse port is. |
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| 22:23.03 | korhojoa | hey guys. anyone else noticed that the repos give a gpg error now? |
| 22:23.39 | LjL-Alps | i did, but i guess they always did for me since i'm a newbie |
| 22:23.58 | korhojoa | i mean, the official nokia ones |
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| 22:24.42 | korhojoa | W: GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 KEYEXPIRED 1349249546 |
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| 22:27.18 | korhojoa | huh. apparently this has been around for a long time. |
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| 23:12.22 | kerio | korhojoa: complain to nokia care |
| 23:15.14 | wnd | (and see if they care) |
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| 23:53.12 | korhojoa | kerio: lol. fapman doesn't care. |
