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15:44.39*** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet
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15:44.48kerio~botsnack
15:44.48infobotkerio: aw, gee
15:44.50Macerwould love to but
15:45.06Maceri dont get my internet installed into my new place until tomorrow
15:45.08Macerlol
15:45.22Macerand im not going to dl vanilla tethered heh
15:45.30kerio/dev/mmcblk0p2 is mounted on /home on the n900
15:45.49Maceri see
15:45.50kerioif it's missing, then something went seriously wrong
15:46.12Macerah well. i will fix it tomorrow when i have my cm installed
15:46.58Macerin the meantime i will just go back to my e7
15:47.10DocScrutinizer05there's almost no way to fix a failed-to-mount /home
15:47.20DocScrutinizer05except full reflash
15:47.36MacerDocScrutinizer05: yeah. i will do that tomorrow
15:47.37keriofix partitions, restore backup
15:47.45Maceri dont have anything important on it
15:47.56Macerit is a fresh flash
15:48.55Macerkerio: no need to restore a backup. ive only done like 2 things
15:49.04kerioit's faster than flashing!
15:49.06Macerreflashed. installed openssh
15:49.45Macerkerio: well. i plan on selling this thing. best to make sure it functions stock
15:49.55Macerso i will just completely reflash
15:50.32DocScrutinizer05also, TWOHUNDRED US-DOLLAR for a broken N900? W*T*F?
15:50.46DocScrutinizer05or NTD?
15:51.41Maceryeah. i couldnt believe it either
15:51.41Macerlol
15:52.01Maceroh well. i said it had a broken modem
15:56.02Macer~flashing
15:56.03infobotextra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
15:56.43Macerok. so i just need 20.2010.36-2.002 PR Combined
15:56.45Macerand emmc?
15:57.56Macerblah. i'm trying to find the images
15:58.45kerio~pr131
15:58.45infobot[combined] the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin  or  http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
15:59.05kerio~vanilla
15:59.06infobotfrom memory, vanilla is just plain old up & down & up & down & up & down & up & down & ooooh!, or the finest of the flavors
15:59.11keriowhat the balls
16:00.40MacerInternal Server Error - Read
16:00.40MacerThe server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
16:00.43MacerReference #3.ed14434d.1376236828.acfa1d6
16:00.44Macerlol
16:02.33Macerso i have to use the img from 2009?
16:03.58keriothe one listed as "latest" on tablets-dev
16:04.34MacerRX-51_2009SE_1.2009.41-1.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin
16:04.36Maceroops
16:05.37MacerRX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin
16:05.42Macerthere it is heh
16:05.51MacerLatest Vanilla version of the eMMC content for Nokia N900
16:07.53Macerso is there a way to flash these both at the same time? heh
16:07.57Macerlooks at the wiki
16:16.53Maceromg
16:16.54Macerthis is nearly impossible to do without a REAL inernet connection. i will fix it tomorrow
16:17.17Macerheh
16:17.24Macerlet me try one m ore time to get this emmc bin
16:17.51Macer1 hour for 256MB
16:17.53Macerfml
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16:37.45japa-fiMacer: I flashed my phone after first downloading the images. The flashing was done without internet connection
16:39.54kerioMacer: it's actually pretty silly
16:40.01keriomost of those 256mb are crappy videos
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16:55.00DocScrutinizer05indeed
16:55.45DocScrutinizer05idly wonders about S/N ratio of posts like [2013-08-11 18:00:40] <Macer> Internal Server Error - Read
16:55.53Lava_Croftdont forget the music and wallpapers
16:55.57Lava_Croftall very useful
16:57.40DocScrutinizer05it honestly drives me mad when users "report" errors but do it in a way that's absolutely useless except for ringing my alarm bells
16:58.32Lava_Crofti wonder how life is without any means of filtering out crap that will just agitate you
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16:59.05Lava_Crofti mean, i have trouble ignoring impulses regardless of their nature
16:59.10DocScrutinizer05instead of checking 39 URLs if they show the cited error, I should rather break 39 baseball bats on the user citing such shit
16:59.44Lava_Croftand suggesting physical violence over a thing like this just shows more about how fucked up your thought process is than that of the silly user
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16:59.48Lava_Croftmy goodness man
16:59.55Lava_Croftchill the fuck out
17:00.15DocScrutinizer05FU!
17:00.20Lava_Croftsilly user might be silly and annoying, but what you say is just downright bad
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17:00.23Lava_Croftand you know better:)
17:00.29Lava_Croftjust ignore the crap that makes you say shit like this
17:00.46Lava_Croftmost of the vitriol here is in same way always related to you
17:00.53Lava_Croftsome*
17:01.04Lava_Croftr e l a x
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17:02.23Macerok
17:02.41Macerlooks like this finished heh
17:03.19Lava_Croftbe easy for DocScrutinizer51, is a good entity
17:03.20Macerso just flash the emmc then yank the battery and flash the fiasco img?
17:03.22Macerheh
17:03.39Lava_CroftMacer: look at wiki?
17:03.46Maceri am
17:03.52Macerseems like most people flash emmc
17:03.58Macerthen pull the battery
17:04.01Macerthen flash fiasco
17:04.02Lava_Croftdo what wiki says and you are ok
17:04.15Lava_Croftyes, because that is a failsafe solution
17:04.21Lava_Croftreasonably:)
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17:05.57Macerwell.. i'm doing it now
17:06.06Macerso hopefully all goes well and this ridiculous /home dir problem goes away heh
17:06.07Lava_Croftits how i've done it for the past years
17:06.22Lava_Croftuse backupmenu the next time
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17:07.20Macerheh
17:07.29Macerwell.. lets see what happens
17:07.33Macerthat actually went rather fast
17:07.58Maceri'm doing the fiasco img now
17:08.03Macerso hopefully this thing just boots
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17:08.45Lava_Croftjust use your head the look around next time
17:08.49Lava_Crofti mean, it wasnt hard to find
17:09.00Lava_Croftgood luck
17:09.03Macerhuh?
17:09.31Macerbooting it now
17:10.12Macerstares around
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17:10.49Macerdoes this thing usually stay stuck at those booting dots for this long after doing this?
17:10.59Lava_Croftthe first time it will take a while
17:11.13Maceryeah it just asked for my code.. which is odd
17:11.44Macerconsidering it should be completely wiped. am i  missing something here? lol
17:11.59Lava_Croftgoogle? the devices i own never had that problem:)
17:12.27Macerah there it goes
17:12.32Macerthe partitions look good :)
17:12.43Maceri have 2GB for applications now instead of 256MB heh
17:12.50Lava_Croftit's always better to look around and wait first, then start asking questions here:)
17:12.53Macerlet me toss the sim in and get this thing working heh
17:12.59Lava_Croftthat way your chances of wasting someone's time a lot smaller!
17:13.19Lava_Croftlook for backupmenu soon
17:13.22Lava_Croftand learn how to use it
17:13.33Macerbut my problem was an error in the partitions
17:13.39Lava_Croftits the most important thing to know with these funky devices
17:13.45Lava_Crofthm
17:13.46Macerso unarring something doesn't sound like it would fix partitions
17:13.49Lava_Crofttrue
17:13.53Maceruntaring
17:14.04Macerplus my experience with backupmenu hasn't been good
17:14.13Macertried to recover a couple of times using it and seemed to fail both times
17:14.14Macerheh
17:14.20Macerah well.. let me work on making this thing functional
17:14.25Lava_Crofthave fun
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17:29.47NeutrinoPowerhi
17:30.54kerio'lo
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17:48.35Macerseems to work
17:48.38Macernice
17:55.58freemangordonwhaat?!? tracker-cfg is in extras-devel?
17:56.04freemangordonsixwheeledbeast: ^^^ O.o
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17:56.45freemangordonsixwheeledbeast: going to promote that to -testing if you don't mind
17:57.07NeutrinoPowerhow fast is the micro-sd slot? I want put the SAMSUNG MB-MPBGC SD-card in my N900, but can it read 48MB/s and faster?
17:57.33freemangordonno
17:57.49freemangordon20-20MB/s max
17:57.53freemangordon20-25 even
17:59.00freemangordonNeutrinoPower: n900 does not support UHS bus/protocol/speeds
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18:20.27freemangordonPali: hi, what about that email?
18:21.43Palifreemangordon: last email, why is barrier needed?
18:22.09freemangordonPali: yes, I saw it, but honestly, this is going instane
18:22.13freemangordon*insane
18:23.03freemangordonI really don;t get it what exactly this guy wants. It was explained by the guy from TI why is DSB needed there
18:23.23freemangordonI can't think of anything but cpoy/paste of his explanation
18:23.53Paliok, do it :-)
18:23.59freemangordonPali: maybe ask if Dave will be happy with that
18:24.13freemangordonPali: you want me to do that?
18:24.51Paliyou answered other questions, so it will be better to do it
18:24.55freemangordonok
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18:36.16freemangordonPali: Does it look fine to you?
18:36.24Paliok
18:36.26freemangordonok
18:38.21freemangordonPali: what about assessment? (kcssu)
18:38.38Palinow going to compile new version of clock-ui
18:38.45Paliand then will look at kcssu
18:38.50freemangordonok :)
18:44.17Paliok, new clock-ui is in cssu-devel
18:44.29Palinow going to look at kcssu wiki page :-)
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18:50.37Palifreemangodon: there is patch ARM_6066_1_Fix_BUG_scheduling_while_atomic_swapper_0_0x00000002.diff
18:51.03PaliLuke-Jr: ping
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18:57.04Palifreemangordon: what to do witah patch trig-keyb.diff ?
18:57.14Pali"This allows LEDs to be used as keyboard indication leds"
18:57.34freemangordonPali: lemme see that patch
18:57.47Palilooking at source and I'm not sure if this code is OK
18:58.15Paliit exporting symbol from kernel (for other drivers)
18:58.55Paliplus it is compiled into kernel zImage
18:59.19Paliand I'm not sure if this (from description) is needed in kcssu...
18:59.30freemangordonPali: :nod:
19:00.17Paliso its up to you if you accept this patch into kcssu or not... I'm not sure
19:00.23freemangordonlets disable it, along with any patches that might use that function keyb_led_set
19:00.57freemangordon(if there are any)
19:01.00freemangordonPali: ^^^
19:01.40Palitwl-scrollock.diff is using it
19:03.15freemangordonhmm, seems that allows you to use KBD leds as CAPS/NUM/SCROLL leds
19:03.34freemangordonnever knew that is possible or how to use it
19:03.41Palime too
19:03.54Paliit looks like it using kernel led trigger api
19:04.01freemangordondisable thos, we can easily reenable them if needed
19:04.07Paliand this needs to be configured somehow via sysfs
19:04.12Paliok
19:04.21Palinext what to do with usb host mode?
19:04.48freemangordonno idea, better ask DocScrutinizer05
19:05.07PaliDocScrutinizer05: ping
19:05.15freemangordonPali: I am going afk for a while
19:05.31Palifreemangordon: and last patch is ARM_6066_1_Fix_BUG_scheduling_while_atomic_swapper_0_0x00000002.diff
19:05.33Paliok
19:06.02PaliDocScrutinizer05: question is if usb host mode patches are stable for kcssu or not
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20:50.44Maceruhm
20:50.52Maceris the api broken in the pic sharing in maemo now?
20:50.56Maceror fb's?
20:51.02Maceri can't seem to login/validate my fb acct
20:51.51Macerkeep getting no network connection available
20:51.53freemangordonMacer: i successfuly set up sharing account (on my GF's new device) on Tuesday.
20:51.58Macerhm
20:52.00Macerwth?
20:52.18Maceri am getting "no network connection available. operation cancelled"
20:52.21freemangordonMacer: cssu-t there?
20:52.45Macerno
20:52.50Macerrunning the latest nokia stock
20:52.53Macermaybe i'll install cssu
20:53.00Macer~cssu
20:53.00infobotextra, extra, read all about it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU
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20:53.29freemangordonMacer: ooh, fixed in CSSU, your libxml2 is broken ;)
20:53.55Maceroh
20:53.56Macerok
20:55.34Macerdo i have to use testing?
20:55.43Maceris stable ok to use? heh
20:55.51freemangordonI think no, look at the -stable changelog
20:56.22freemangordonMacer: in other words - I think -stable should have the libxml2 fix
20:56.41freemangordonnut not sure, so check in the changelog
20:57.28freemangordonMacer: oh, it is libcurl3, not libxml
20:57.47freemangordonMacer: fixed in 21.2011.38-1Smaemo5 (24.12.2012)
20:58.43Macerso stable should be good?
20:58.44Macerheh
20:58.48freemangordonyep
20:58.53Maceri don't want to use testing
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21:05.17Macerok
21:05.29Maceri'm installing this cssu stable update
21:05.50Macerjust have to wait on it to finish downloading/installing. hopefully the stable edition doesn't have as many problems as i had with testing heh
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21:28.18Macerwell. cssu stable doesnt have the screen rotation
21:28.23Macerheh oh well
21:28.41freemangordonwell, it is disabled by default :)
21:28.55kerioholy shit new clock-ui
21:31.51Macerhm
21:32.12Macerfreemangordon: i dont see the rotation applet in stable
21:32.29freemangordonMacer: rotation applet?
21:32.53freemangordonooh, rotation lock applet :)
21:33.10freemangordonit is not in -testing anymore too
21:33.20Maceroh. really?
21:33.30freemangordonyep
21:33.39Macerdo i have to install the cssu config sep too?
21:33.42freemangordonyou can install it from HAM if you wish
21:33.57freemangordonMacer: NFC what cssu config is
21:34.00Maceri dont see the cssu config app
21:34.09freemangordonMacer: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/FeaturesStable
21:34.22freemangordonMacer: WTF is cssu config app?
21:34.32Macerfeatures configuration
21:34.36Macerheh
21:34.55Maceri found it
21:34.56freemangordonMacer: this is not a part of CSSU
21:35.09freemangordonand I am not sure it is compatible with cssu either
21:35.09Maceroh
21:35.27Macerreally?
21:35.33Macerhm.. ive used it before heh
21:35.37freemangordonoh
21:35.42kerioit's basically a transitions.ini editor
21:35.49keriowith some extra gconf macros
21:35.50Maceryah
21:35.53keriobut it's kinda bad
21:35.55freemangordonthat might explain the bad experience you have
21:36.45freemangordonkerio: ooh, this was the app that was causing hildon-desktop to crash because of the bad transitions.ini it outputs?
21:36.51kerioi think so
21:36.54freemangordonI see
21:37.02freemangordonMacer: don't install that
21:37.13Macerok
21:37.22keriommh, i have clock-ui 0.6-5+thumb0
21:37.23keriowtf is that
21:37.42freemangordonthumby clock-ui?
21:37.46kerioprobably
21:37.47Macershould remove it from the repo then heh
21:37.56keriobut i thought clock-ui didn't have debs
21:37.57freemangordonMacer: maybe
21:38.00keriooh well
21:38.07freemangordonMacer: rase a bug
21:38.14freemangordon*raise
21:38.20freemangordonhmm, "file a bug"?
21:38.25freemangordonyeah, better
21:38.38Macerwow. i dont know if i even have a bugzilla acct nowadays
21:38.43Macer:)
21:39.13Macerit will probably be nofix anyways. i remember filing bugs as being pointless in the nokia days heh
21:40.31LauRomanif i want to connect an android device to n900 i have to modify the android device? there is no way to "fix" it from the 900 side right?
21:40.40kerio"connect" how?
21:40.49LauRomanqtmh
21:40.53LauRomanqtmhs
21:41.09keriowat
21:41.21LauRomanmobile hotspot
21:41.26kerioah, k
21:41.37kerioyeah, android doesn't do ad-hoc wifi by default i think
21:41.46kerioyou can still use bluetooth dun, if it's supported
21:41.47Macerandroid doesnt support adhoc or bluetooth dun
21:41.47kerioidk
21:42.08Macerandroid only supports wifi ap and bluetooth pan
21:42.19Maceri went through this a while back
21:42.40Maceronly way i managed to get anything working was to install a dun app on the tablet
21:42.46Macerbluevpn client
21:42.56Macerand install bt dun in maemo
21:43.18Macerit is a bad way to do it but getting bt pan to work in maemo was like pulling out teeth
21:43.37LauRomansadly qt mobilehotspot does not support bt
21:44.10kerionot with qt mobilehotspot
21:44.11Macernope
21:44.18kerioMacer: bt pan worksforme
21:44.32Macerkerio: make a wiki for it lol
21:44.41Maceror an app that simplifies it :)
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23:24.24ShadowJKsupposedly vanilla android is a bit better at bt dun support
23:24.49ShadowJKand chinese androids usually include the kitchen sink and will even work if you connect a 3g modem over usb to them
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