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| 08:30.58 | kerio | freemangordon: is extmou decent, though? |
| 08:31.13 | kerio | or does it do stuff like extkbd, with packages that replace system packages |
| 08:34.21 | kerio | ~bmerep |
| 08:35.13 | kerio | ~pali |
| 08:35.13 | infobot | well, pali is http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/ |
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| 08:39.02 | kerio | infobot: bmerep is echo "deb http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/rx51-bme-replacement/ ./" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bmerep.list |
| 08:39.03 | infobot | kerio: okay |
| 08:45.04 | kerio | ~bmerep |
| 08:45.04 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, bmerep is echo "deb http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/rx51-bme-replacement/ ./" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bmerep.list |
| 08:45.07 | kerio | schweet |
| 08:45.31 | kerio | infobot: no, bmerep is `echo "deb http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/rx51-bme-replacement/ ./" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bmerep.list` |
| 08:45.31 | infobot | okay, kerio |
| 08:45.33 | kerio | ~bmerep |
| 08:45.33 | infobot | it has been said that bmerep is `echo "deb http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/rx51-bme-replacement/ ./" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bmerep.list` |
| 08:45.52 | kerio | ...meh |
| 08:45.57 | kerio | infobot: forget bmerep |
| 08:45.57 | infobot | kerio: i forgot bmerep |
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| 22:07.55 | joga | wonder if there's a similar map for non-english layout around http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1130652&postcount=3 |
| 22:08.10 | joga | (or in some file?) |
| 22:08.32 | joga | can't remember anymore where to look to be honest :p |
| 22:15.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | scancodes should be always same no matter which keymapping |
| 22:16.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | since scancodes are lowest level hw codes that are directly linked to physical location of key on kbd |
| 22:16.51 | joga | hmm... what I'd like to do for that specific game is to tell it to use '.' for left, left arrow for down, right arrow for right and Ä for up |
| 22:17.18 | joga | it's SDL as far as I can tell |
| 22:17.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | no idea about SDL |
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| 22:21.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | you could use xev and check "keycode" |
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| 22:22.33 | joga | I tried with xev but either missed or didn't find the output I was looking for |
| 22:22.40 | joga | I'll try again.. |
| 22:22.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | xev shows whole x-message data, incl raw keycode which never changes |
| 22:22.49 | gomiam | Lava_Croft: finally managed to install everything I need for tweetian... trying to log in |
| 22:24.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | joga: except xev seems not available on N900? :-o |
| 22:24.58 | joga | DocScrutinizer05, I do have it actually but seems it has focus problems, my keyb input goes to the terminal I started it from |
| 22:25.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's kinda normal |
| 22:25.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think |
| 22:25.55 | joga | but if I do xev|grep keycode on my pc and press keys on the white box, it shows them fine, on n900 I just get 'ä's in the terminal |
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| 22:26.20 | joga | tried clicking it first etc but doesn't seem to work right.. |
| 22:26.54 | joga | might as well try the same code, seems plausible anyway |
| 22:26.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, xev on "normal" desktop opens a new window |
| 22:27.08 | joga | yes, and I switch focus to that one to give input |
| 22:27.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | for obvious reasons this has potential to kinda fail on hildon-desktop |
| 22:27.29 | joga | I dunno, for me it does open a new window just like on pc |
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| 22:27.44 | joga | but maybe it fails on some non-obvious level, dunno |
| 22:28.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually what xev does is listening but *not* handling x-input-messages |
| 22:28.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | so the input still gets handled as usual |
| 22:28.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | and will end in window which has focus |
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| 22:29.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | but also the window where you started xev shows the dump of x-message data |
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| 22:29.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually the new window that xev opens has the focus |
| 22:30.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | so in *this* window even mouse-events get reported |
| 22:30.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | while kbd-events are x-messages that are gobal to all windows |
| 22:30.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | so xev reports them no matter which window has focus |
| 22:31.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | mouse-evens only get reported when they happen to/in xev new window |
| 22:32.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway check what option the readkey() or whatever function in SDL offers. There probably is either a flag "raw" or a return parameter "raw" or "keycode" |
| 22:32.50 | joga | on n900 or in general? on my pc at least I need to focus the xev white window to get any output in terminal |
| 22:33.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooops you're right. Scrap the nonsense I told about keycodes |
| 22:34.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | err kbd-events |
| 22:34.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed xev dumps kbd-evens only when the xev-white-win has focus |
| 22:38.59 | joga | ah, started easydebian's lxde and ran xev in there, works better |
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| 22:39.48 | joga | but yeah, codewise they should be correct then unless I'm overlooking something |
| 22:41.01 | joga | though I wonder if checking for them under lxde is a bright idea or not |
| 22:42.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | shouldn't differ from fremantle |
| 22:43.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | err hildon-desktop |
| 22:43.10 | gomiam | installing tweetian requires some patience :-) (and I have to do strange things to switch out of it too) |
| 22:44.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | joga: from backupmenu: |
| 22:44.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | KEY=`/usr/sbin/evkey -u -t 1000 /dev/input/event1` |
| 22:44.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ... |
| 22:44.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | keyToNum="16 22 4 17 19 24 20 8 14 15 - - - - 0 18 3 5 6 7 9 10 11 - - - - - 25 23 2 21 1 13 12" |
| 22:44.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | #+16 q w e r t y u i o p a s d f g h j k l z x c v b n m |
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| 22:47.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | from /usr/share/backupmenu/BackupMenu.item |
| 22:50.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | should have all you need, not even any messing around with X or SDL |
| 22:50.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | the trick is: /usr/sbin/evkey -u -t 1000 /dev/input/event1 |
| 22:55.59 | gomiam | ok, almost done it seems: tweetian works ok, and now I need to know where to press to get back the the n900 program selection thingy :-) |
| 22:56.21 | joga | DocScrutinizer05, thanks, just had to add a small wait there, sleep 1; echo now; evkey -u -t 1000 /dev/input/event1, because it was swallowing my enter up |
| 22:56.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | while :; do /usr/sbin/evkey -u -t 1000 /dev/input/event1; done |
| 22:57.04 | joga | so I got 103 for output from the Ä button, 0x67 and tried to add it to conf but doesn't seem like it works |
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| 22:58.41 | LjL-Alps | i guess maybe crashing is my N900's way of telling me "no, i don't support RDS through V4L" |
| 22:58.53 | joga | DocScrutinizer05, ye that's better, probably should make an ascii map out of this so that others don't need to bother... :) |
| 22:59.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's not ASCII, it's keymap (X,Y) |
| 22:59.52 | joga | DocScrutinizer05, I mean a post like this http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1130652&postcount=3 |
| 22:59.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | IOW, your Ä key is my UP key |
| 23:00.56 | joga | hmm |
| 23:01.14 | joga | well I wonder now if it's at all possible to get this without changing the layout |
| 23:05.45 | joga | actually now that I looked more closely, the codes in the config file (for CSB) aren't the same as in the post above for the left/right arrow keys, so I'm just doing it wrong anyway |
| 23:07.00 | joga | it maps UDLR as 111,112,114,113 |
| 23:07.52 | joga | which I figured would map to the keys in the post but apparently not since that's 111,116,113,114 |
| 23:08.19 | joga | oh, crap, hold on.. |
| 23:09.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | the post is complete gibberish to me, nfc what it is meant to say |
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| 23:20.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | here is my output of /usr/sbin/evkey -u -t 1000 /dev/input/event1 for SYM...BS; FUN..CR; Shift...RIGHT(US keymat) -- thus upper-left right then down, till lower-right: 29 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 51 14; 100 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 52 103 28(CR); 42(shift) 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 57(space) 105 108 106 |
| 23:21.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | 29=ctrl, 14=backspace |
| 23:22.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | joga: this should be identical to yours, no matter which keymapping and which keymat you got |
| 23:23.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's the raw scancodes as show up in /dev/input/event1 |
| 23:23.56 | joga | DocScrutinizer05, so it seems, in this case I guess it's just a problem with sdl getting the arrow keys, which is not unheard of of course. I did however just find this which seems to make the layout switching at least as quick as possible http://qwerty12.qole.org/kb/ and it seems to work |
| 23:24.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | you hardly get closer to the raw hardware |
| 23:24.27 | joga | so for the time being I think I'll just use this since there's a couple of other games that have such probs |
| 23:24.44 | joga | thanks for all the help again |
| 23:25.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | direct reading from /dev/input/event1 will not give you any problems that other SDL games might have |
| 23:25.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | it just gives you the problem of not handling focus at all |
| 23:26.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | IOW your game will +always* see the imput from kbd when reading from /dev/input/event1, no matter if in foreground or hidden |
| 23:26.22 | joga | the config offers two modes of input, "key" and "scan", thought at first it would just be a problem that I used "key" there, but tried it with "scan" too |
| 23:27.59 | joga | yup now it works great :) |
| 23:28.12 | joga | (with the applet, just reverted to default config again for csb) |
| 23:28.50 | joga | now all I need is a magnifying glass heh |
| 23:29.45 | gomiam | Lava_Croft: thanks for pointing me to tweetian and that tmo link. I'm able to use Twitter now. |
| 23:29.56 | gomiam | see you all |
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