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| 00:10.16 | euphoria86 | Hi, Can someone help me with my n900, I'm trying to use cd /home/user/MyDocs/documents but the terminal is giving me the error "cant cd to /home/user/MyDocs/documents |
| 00:11.34 | nox- | isnt that /home/user/MyDocs/.documents or somesuch? |
| 00:12.01 | euphoria86 | I tried that too, Same error message came back |
| 00:13.39 | nox- | hm mine does have ~/MyDocs/.documents at least |
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| 00:22.51 | LjL-Alps | i wish OS2008 had a sleeker version of MyPaint for it |
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| 02:03.22 | psycho_oreos | euphoria86, either you or someone else have done something to it. Its known as /home/user/MyDocs/.documents (Yes there is a huge difference if there was a character missing, there's a thing known as tab completion which prevents the need to type out the full and exact name of path, etc). |
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| 02:17.29 | psycho_oreos | There could be three reasons for why that is happening, user/program intervention (which was pointed out above), filesystem corruption, and/or filesystem not mounted. |
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| 09:51.03 | psycho_oreos | Hmm very interesting, running on CSSU-Thumb (just installed recently) been on CSSU-Testing for awhile now. I'm using Pali's PAv5, whenever I hear my N900 rings I　can hear both the default nokia ringtone along with my own defined ringtone for N900 to use (though with some delays for user defined ringtone). |
| 09:51.34 | psycho_oreos | wonders if it would be a good idea to try PA CSSU v1 again. |
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| 10:57.30 | psycho_oreos | Ooh nice, looks like they've narrowed down the issue, guess that will be only set that I'll need to try. |
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| 13:16.03 | japa-fi | I just LOOOOOOVE my N900!. Found out that my thinkpad 430 does not have traditiona microphone input (3.5mm jack). What can I do? I use my N900 as microphone + gstreamer to strea the sound, VLC on my laptop to receive the stream muxing it to my screencast. |
| 13:16.26 | Sc0rpius | but that should sound terrible |
| 13:16.31 | Sc0rpius | I mean the quality of the audio |
| 13:16.51 | Sc0rpius | what kind of audio input that laptop has then? now I'm curious |
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| 13:17.30 | japa-fi | Sc0rpius, I think options are either USB mic or internal mic (which had awful sound quality) |
| 13:17.51 | japa-fi | I tested the sound via n900, it was very clear IMO |
| 13:17.52 | Sc0rpius | yeah I have a USB Headset that I had to use for "emergency mic" in some cases |
| 13:18.07 | japa-fi | oh, streaming was over wlan |
| 13:20.10 | wnd | it baffles me that I haven't asked this before, but does your n900 ever simply fail to connect to any wlan/wifi until you toggle offline/airplane mode on and back off? |
| 13:20.43 | Sc0rpius | it's funny that you ask |
| 13:21.04 | Sc0rpius | sometimes when I try to connect to a WiFi it doesn't find any WLAN available even if they are available |
| 13:21.15 | Sc0rpius | but if I have some WLAN already saved I can always connect to that |
| 13:21.19 | Sc0rpius | but I can't find new ones... until I reboot |
| 13:21.27 | Sc0rpius | now you just give me a better workaround hehehe |
| 13:22.10 | wnd | it happens to me maybe once a month and when it does, airplane mode alawys helps. there's nothing in the kernel log that catches my eye. |
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| 13:26.27 | fizzie | Many Thinkpads have a combined headphone/mic connector (including the T430 according to Lenovo spec page: "(1) 3.5mm Combo Jack Headphone/MIC"), in which case you can just get a (suitable) TRRS-to-2xTRS adapter cable and plug a regular microphone in. |
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| 13:37.53 | japa-fi | fizzie, darn, you spoiled all the fun :) |
| 13:40.17 | fizzie | On the other hand, then you'd have the N900 free for even more "creative" gstreamer experiments. (I've been using mine for experiments in time-lapse photography; it can jpegenc ! tcpserversink 1080p frames at a comfortable 2 fps, or 720p at 5 fps, over a very spotty wlan here at the office.) |
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| 13:41.05 | fizzie | (Sadly there's nothing in particular to photograph here, except for a mostly empty road.) |
| 13:41.06 | japa-fi | You use the phone as wireless "webcam" for the laptop? |
| 13:41.21 | fizzie | Well, for a desktop in this case, but yes. |
| 13:42.30 | japa-fi | Cool! |
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| 17:20.26 | Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: ping |
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| 17:30.43 | GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, pong? |
| 17:31.27 | Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: 'lo |
| 17:31.45 | Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: Wondered if you'd looked at this week's issue - but doesn't look like you have |
| 17:31.53 | Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: (Not a problem, I'll have a look at lunch) |
| 17:32.15 | Jaffa | has just copied create-issue.php. Step 1: tick :-) |
| 17:32.47 | GeneralAntilles | I haven't. Getting ready to list the house this week, so my spare time is near zero. |
| 17:33.14 | Jaffa | Fairy nuff |
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| 17:40.16 | DrCode | I have install ssh server on easydebian |
| 17:40.34 | DrCode | can I access to easydebian from maemo ssh? |
| 17:40.48 | DrCode | I did change ports to 2222 |
| 17:40.56 | DrCode | but couldn't connect |
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| 18:12.33 | cehteh | DrCode: are you sure its up and running? |
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| 18:27.04 | DrCode | cehteh, yes |
| 18:27.05 | DrCode | I also can't ssh inside ssh root |
| 18:27.24 | DrCode | when I do ps -ax|grep ssh |
| 18:27.33 | DrCode | when I do ps -ax|grep sshd mybe I see maemo and not chroot? |
| 18:27.46 | cehteh | netstat -tnlp gives? |
| 18:27.50 | Wizzup | So I'm travelling to paris and would like to have a map application that can use a cached map |
| 18:27.54 | Wizzup | Any suggestions? :) |
| 18:28.12 | cehteh | Wizzup: monav |
| 18:29.18 | Wizzup | ty! |
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| 18:32.21 | DrCode | I am charging my phone now |
| 18:32.34 | DrCode | dose chroot share same task with maemo? |
| 18:32.48 | DrCode | or its diffrent tasks |
| 18:33.03 | DrCode | I mean when I use ps -ax, I will see mameo tasks? |
| 18:38.02 | SpeedEvil | you see all processes - chroot doesn't isolate processes like that |
| 18:40.58 | Sicelo | Wizzup: stock Maps too ;) |
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| 18:56.36 | sixwheeledbeast1 | Wizzup: modRana with monav, d/l the tiles before you go? |
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| 19:02.27 | Wizzup | Sicelo: really? I didn't know stock maps could do that |
| 19:04.08 | Wizzup | sixwheeledbeast: ok |
| 19:05.00 | sixwheeledbeast | stock maps will download the maps if you view the area beforehand. |
| 19:08.01 | Wizzup | sixwheeledbeast: through reboots? |
| 19:09.56 | sixwheeledbeast | :shrug: I would think so, isn't that what ~/.nokia-maps is for? |
| 19:10.49 | Wizzup | I have no clue, I thought it would just redownload it |
| 19:13.40 | sixwheeledbeast | Wizzup: seems not I remeber many thread re downloading nokia maps. http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=38872 |
| 19:14.24 | sixwheeledbeast | However search feature needs data |
| 19:15.28 | Sicelo | yes. stock keeps maps 'forever' |
| 19:17.18 | Wizzup | okay, going to reboot phone first -- keeps giving errors in the gfx driver |
| 19:17.19 | Wizzup | :/ |
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| 19:18.22 | qwerty123 | freemangordon: there?? |
| 19:19.13 | qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: there? |
| 19:19.21 | qwerty123 | SpeedEvil: ?? |
| 19:19.36 | SpeedEvil | ? |
| 19:19.42 | qwerty123 | help please. |
| 19:19.51 | psycho_oreos | ? |
| 19:20.17 | qwerty123 | camera is not showing anything. basically just a blank screen. kpv52 latest thumb |
| 19:20.19 | sixwheeledbeast | help with? |
| 19:20.49 | psycho_oreos | fcam driver issue perhaps? |
| 19:21.02 | sixwheeledbeast | probably |
| 19:21.30 | qwerty123 | how to uninstall them?? |
| 19:22.03 | qwerty123 | got it in fapman. trying. |
| 19:22.48 | qwerty123 | and yes, problem with fennec 17 too. its not opening. just a waiting circle on top and then nothing. |
| 19:23.19 | qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: |
| 19:23.25 | qwerty123 | ^^ |
| 19:23.34 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: ^^ |
| 19:23.52 | SpeedEvil | reflash stock - does problem reccur? |
| 19:24.26 | sixwheeledbeast | have you installed fcam? |
| 19:24.34 | sixwheeledbeast | ~fam |
| 19:24.34 | infobot | i heard fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU). It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. |
| 19:25.05 | sixwheeledbeast | mmm I forgot that got changed :/ |
| 19:25.07 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: yes |
| 19:25.39 | sixwheeledbeast | well I "think" you need fcam drivers from devel. |
| 19:25.59 | qwerty123 | SpeedEvil: i have some of the things installed from thumb repo, so cant i try cssu kernel than stock?? it used to work on v51r1. |
| 19:26.19 | psycho_oreos | Removing fcam-drivers will remove fcam, blessn900 and/or abettercamera. They all seem to more or less depend on fcam-drivers. |
| 19:26.30 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: mayb the first person to suffer while trying to go al safe with extras :P |
| 19:26.51 | qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: trying upgrading and then will remove. |
| 19:27.25 | sixwheeledbeast | fcam drivers is a known issue if it is this. |
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| 19:27.47 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: never had ne problem with them before. |
| 19:27.47 | psycho_oreos | fennec is also broken (at least the latest one). I don't have it working on my end anymore. |
| 19:28.16 | qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: so, fennec 7 works? not the thumb one?? |
| 19:29.09 | sixwheeledbeast | sometimes a "apt-get install --reinstall fcam-drivers" is known to fix too I believe. |
| 19:29.17 | psycho_oreos | I wouldn't say installing CSSU-Thumb and/or having kp52 would cause camera-ui to show nothing on the screen. I have more or less the same setup (except with the latest fcam-drivers). No issues for me. |
| 19:29.33 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: yep.. got solved.devel fcam were required. |
| 19:29.47 | qwerty123 | just upgraded them. |
| 19:29.57 | psycho_oreos | I do believe fennec was last up to v21. fennec 7 is really old. |
| 19:30.19 | qwerty123 | i think thats what it is in extras. 17 was in thumb. |
| 19:30.31 | qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: ^^ |
| 19:31.08 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: if devel drivers are working then why are not they shifted to extras?? |
| 19:31.16 | sixwheeledbeast | I thought so I suppose this should be pushed to extras to stop this happening |
| 19:31.31 | sixwheeledbeast | ~pkg |
| 19:31.31 | infobot | i heard pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ |
| 19:31.41 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: seconds late but same thought :P |
| 19:32.12 | sixwheeledbeast | changelog: 1.0.7-2 * Bump to version number to recompile for latest kernel-power version |
| 19:32.24 | Wizzup | to confirm, extras-devel fcam drivers will fix prolbmes of cam not working at all |
| 19:32.24 | Wizzup | I ran into this issue two weeks ago |
| 19:32.27 | Wizzup | I thought it was going to be pushed to testing already back then |
| 19:32.55 | sixwheeledbeast | This needs the package maintainer to promote to testing and then vote, let me double check... |
| 19:34.12 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: btw, whats the procedure of installing previous versions of kernel-power. ( just for info) |
| 19:34.23 | qwerty123 | ? |
| 19:37.46 | sixwheeledbeast | no recommended. |
| 19:37.53 | sixwheeledbeast | s/no/not/ |
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| 19:41.45 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: still, if someone is adamant to, then ?? :P ( imean in case i just wanted to revert back to kpv51r1, then) |
| 19:43.04 | psycho_oreos | Oops, my bad. Latest fennec for maemo is 17 not 21. |
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| 19:45.20 | psycho_oreos | You will probably have to do it all by hand and hope that it will work. |
| 19:45.31 | qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: so does it work?? |
| 19:46.51 | psycho_oreos | I'm installing it right now. |
| 19:46.56 | qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: i also got problems wih helium browser crashing out of the blue and opera12 and vkb vanishing after installing ukbd.. |
| 19:47.07 | qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: any help with these? |
| 19:48.02 | psycho_oreos | I don't have helium browser, I can't quite remember if I had ukbd installed or not. |
| 19:48.07 | sixwheeledbeast | opera 12 IMO is still not stable. |
| 19:49.19 | psycho_oreos | opera 12.1beta1-16~fremantle0 is what I'm on. |
| 19:49.56 | qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: i still use 11. 12 crashes. |
| 19:50.22 | qwerty123 | anyone having a stable helium browser??? |
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| 19:55.00 | sixwheeledbeast | Yep I also use 11.5 due to crashes. |
| 19:57.35 | psycho_oreos | qwerty123, fennec 12.0 (thumb optimised) is working for me albeit extremely slow. |
| 19:59.05 | qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: yeah i dont usually use fennec but fennec 17 had this thumb compiation that got my attention. |
| 20:00.03 | psycho_oreos | qwerty123, it has always been slow - fennec for maemo. I think if anything, the latest version is far slower than its earliest version. |
| 20:01.15 | qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: thumb obviously had raised some hope for it.. |
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| 20:02.37 | psycho_oreos | qwerty123, some != guaranteed |
| 20:03.15 | psycho_oreos | It was probably a little experiment to see if it did help speed up the process and/or not make it use as much memory. Inevitably its still slow and sluggish. |
| 20:03.20 | qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: yeah. anyways whats the lightest im for maemo?? |
| 20:03.59 | psycho_oreos | qwerty123, probably conversations. |
| 20:04.13 | qwerty123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.17 | sixwheeledbeast | fennec version 8.0.1 uses a faster JIT engine anything later is pointless for maemo I believe. |
| 20:04.38 | qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: pidgin seemed more reasonable to me. |
| 20:05.21 | psycho_oreos | qwerty123, except pidgin is not well integrated compared to conversations |
| 20:05.26 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: read that in TMO. but thats too slow for much of practical workigng. |
| 20:05.59 | sixwheeledbeast | conversations plugin for IRC, is light but has little features |
| 20:06.02 | qwerty123 | psycho_oreos: yeah that s a drawback, but i am still searching for something yet lower cpu eater. |
| 20:06.37 | psycho_oreos | qwerty123, you won't easily. |
| 20:06.41 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: everytime conversations gain any focus, the cpu shoots! |
| 20:07.18 | sixwheeledbeast | xchat, irssi? |
| 20:07.30 | sixwheeledbeast | terminal based. |
| 20:07.40 | qwerty123 | yeah will do. |
| 20:07.45 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: ^^ |
| 20:09.17 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: im i asked, not really only fo rirc. but i will mostly be doing irc only.. so thanks :) |
| 20:09.36 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: installing xchat. |
| 20:10.37 | sixwheeledbeast | Well I'd use pidgin for multiple IM's |
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| 20:17.38 | psycho_oreos | qwerty123, there is finch which is based off pidgin but is command-line only based. Too bad its not available for maemo (which means you'll need to compile it yourself). |
| 20:18.25 | sixwheeledbeast | qwerty123: what other IM protocols do you use, XMPP is supported in conversations. |
| 20:18.51 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: usually fb. |
| 20:19.12 | sixwheeledbeast | supported in conversations have a look |
| 20:19.16 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: fb is xmpp based. |
| 20:19.44 | qwerty123 | sixwheeledbeast: i have that there. :) thanks for your answer. |
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| 20:36.07 | qwerty123 | set up irrssi? |
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| 20:42.13 | sixwheeledbeast | http://www.irssi.org/documentation |
| 20:44.36 | Wizzup | heh... |
| 20:44.38 | Sicelo | you can even get away with no particular setup :P |
| 20:44.45 | Wizzup | suddenly a gtk+ scroll bar appeared in my n900 conversations |
| 20:44.56 | Wizzup | and trying to scroll will just select text |
| 20:47.29 | kerio | Wizzup: same for me |
| 20:47.36 | kerio | i have no idea whatsoever of how to diagnose it |
| 20:47.44 | kerio | and it's a gecko scrollbar, not a gtk+ scrollbar |
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| 20:48.46 | Wizzup | kerio: any idea when that happened? |
| 20:48.49 | kerio | nope |
| 20:48.53 | Wizzup | It's new for me |
| 20:48.57 | kerio | what have you done? |
| 20:49.00 | Wizzup | as in -- probably as of today |
| 20:49.09 | Wizzup | I installed modrana and monav |
| 20:49.12 | kerio | mh |
| 20:49.17 | kerio | just that? |
| 20:49.17 | Wizzup | modrana had lots of dependencies |
| 20:49.22 | Wizzup | well, lots of dependencies as well |
| 20:50.27 | kerio | eeh, modrana only has python-* stuff |
| 20:50.37 | kerio | and espeak, and qt-components-10 |
| 20:50.47 | kerio | neither feels related to Conversations |
| 20:53.13 | kerio | gaah it's such a fucking mess all over the place |
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