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| 05:53.52 | AndrewX192 | solution to the N900 short battery life problem: http://i.imgur.com/bCXzf9d.jpg |
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| 07:04.12 | SAiF | ^^ Andrew.. LOL. |
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| 07:17.09 | sixwheeledbeast | I find the battery fine for daily use. If I go away I take my Yoobao but this is the same with most "smartphones". |
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| 07:38.52 | kerio | i wonder, will this battery last 3 and a half hours with music playback through a2dp and irc over 3g? |
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| 07:42.48 | kerio | ah shit, i'm an idiot |
| 07:42.53 | kerio | i do have a second battery |
| 07:42.55 | kerio | at home |
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| 09:16.50 | drathir | kerio: this is a long time... |
| 09:17.23 | drathir | on battery... |
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| 12:17.21 | kerio | it survived |
| 12:17.30 | kerio | with like a third of battery left |
| 12:17.34 | kerio | i wasn't on IRC all the time though |
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| 13:32.37 | Pali | kerio: let me know if last applet & hald addon fixing your problem |
| 13:34.45 | kerio | ~pali |
| 13:34.45 | infobot | well, pali is http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/ |
| 13:35.28 | kerio | Pali: btw, you're using a self-signed certificate on your wobsite |
| 13:35.45 | kerio | please don't |
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| 13:39.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | HEHE |
| 13:40.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | some think it's better to allow encryption of web/html content by a uncertified selfsigned SSL-cert, maybe to avoid evil MITM attacks on their highly sensitive content |
| 13:41.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | I recently ran into a https://youtube.com link ;-P |
| 13:41.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | it actually works!! :-o |
| 13:41.48 | kerio | youtube's cert isn't self-signed |
| 13:41.50 | kerio | of course it does |
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| 13:41.57 | kerio | HTTPS Everywhere is neat |
| 13:42.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | of course? ask your cpu what it thinks about "of course" |
| 13:42.32 | kerio | "this is your cpu" "this is your cpu on encryption" |
| 13:42.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | HEHE |
| 13:42.43 | Raimu-X_ | Depends on machine power |
| 13:42.50 | kerio | and presence of hw crypto |
| 13:43.00 | kerio | ...by the way, doesn't the n900 have hw crypto? |
| 13:43.09 | Raimu-X_ | I would not like to access everything on https with a n900 |
| 13:43.10 | kerio | Pali: aw shit, new system-services update |
| 13:43.21 | kerio | i'm backupping before doing anything here |
| 13:43.29 | NIN101 | kerio: afaik it does, and also afaik nobod got it working. |
| 13:43.36 | Hurrian | Raimu-X_: OMAP hw crypto is broken on the N900's SoC |
| 13:43.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | I for the life of mine couldn'zt think of a reason to download YT content in encrypted form |
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| 13:43.49 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: logging in? |
| 13:43.50 | Raimu-X_ | Hurrian: I know that |
| 13:43.54 | kerio | although that's google accounts nowadays |
| 13:43.54 | Hurrian | it's not actually much faster than CPU encryption |
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| 13:44.06 | kerio | Hurrian: does it run in parallel, though? |
| 13:44.18 | kerio | it's the same as not using the dsp for music because the battery consumption is the same |
| 13:44.23 | kerio | it would still let me do more things |
| 13:44.40 | kerio | ~rescueOS |
| 13:44.41 | infobot | rescue-os is probably http://206.253.166.96/N900/rescueOS/ |
| 13:44.48 | Hurrian | kerio: forgot, lemme lookup the benches for it |
| 13:45.32 | Hurrian | it was on the mailing list, iirc, ending in "needs to flash a new NOLO, might break corner cases with kernels, WONTBOTHER" |
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| 13:46.13 | kerio | those bug statuses should be a real thing |
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| 13:49.23 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: why haven't i made a backupOS yet? |
| 13:50.42 | miniyo | hi guys, my n900 is behaving badly, after rebooting into backupmenu and doing fsck.ext3 -y on home, it takes several minutes until exits with a segmentation fault :'( |
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| 13:50.49 | NIN101 | call tar from rescueOS, done. |
| 13:51.09 | kerio | NIN101: indeed |
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| 13:51.25 | kerio | miniyo: the stock e2fsprogs are as old as dirt |
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| 13:51.32 | kerio | and they probably segfault as much as dirt, too |
| 13:51.55 | kerio | http://academic.emporia.edu/aberjame/adv_tectonics/faults/fault29.jpg <- like this |
| 13:52.22 | kerio | and even with recent versions, the benefits of doing fsck on flash are uncertain at best |
| 13:52.36 | kerio | especially the crappy emmc we have on the n900 |
| 13:52.47 | kerio | mkfs and untar |
| 13:52.53 | miniyo | kerio: what about rescueos? |
| 13:52.56 | kerio | what about it? |
| 13:53.00 | kerio | oh |
| 13:53.04 | kerio | it should be slightly more recent |
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| 13:53.11 | miniyo | I'll try that |
| 13:53.25 | kerio | your /home is toast, anyway |
| 13:53.30 | kerio | you ran the stock fsck on it |
| 13:53.38 | kerio | unpack your backup |
| 13:53.46 | miniyo | the backupmenu |
| 13:53.59 | miniyo | one |
| 13:54.04 | kerio | sure |
| 13:54.08 | kerio | that's a full backup |
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| 13:54.42 | miniyo | but I don't use backupmenu to backup |
| 13:55.14 | miniyo | so, backupmenu fsck probably has damaged even more home ? |
| 13:55.22 | kerio | why don't you use backupmenu to backup? |
| 13:55.28 | kerio | it's literally the one thing it's supposed to do |
| 13:55.50 | miniyo | right, I should |
| 13:56.02 | miniyo | but never did, I use rsync on live fs |
| 13:56.38 | kerio | well |
| 13:56.41 | kerio | you still have a full backup then |
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| 13:56.44 | miniyo | yes |
| 13:56.51 | kerio | yay |
| 13:56.55 | miniyo | :) |
| 13:57.19 | kerio | Pali: is the new system-services confirmed working, even for differently-fstabbed people? |
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| 14:04.05 | kerio | Pali! |
| 14:04.08 | kerio | it works! |
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| 14:08.04 | SAiF | :) |
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| 14:15.55 | kerio | it's amazing! |
| 14:17.11 | Pali | kerio: it is not my server, but university server and we do not trust CAs :-) |
| 14:17.58 | Pali | kerio: yes system-services from cssu-devel should work with any, but correct fstab file |
| 14:18.14 | Pali | if not, report bug |
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| 14:29.43 | kerio | Pali: well, previous versions caused various flavours of bootloops ;) |
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| 14:32.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen jacekowski |
| 14:32.22 | infobot | jacekowski <jacekowski@jacekowski.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 52d 5h 9m 5s ago, saying: 'but probably all you need is pretty much standard ivr type system'. |
| 14:33.08 | win7mac | ~seen Ima |
| 14:33.08 | infobot | win7mac: i haven't seen 'ima' |
| 14:33.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen lma |
| 14:33.18 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i haven't seen 'lma' |
| 14:34.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | #jollamobile, or #nemo*, iirc |
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| 14:36.07 | win7mac | last seen lma on tmo: 06-22-2013 |
| 14:36.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 14:36.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I've seen him on IRC lately, too |
| 14:37.10 | Pali | kerio: ok |
| 14:37.18 | Pali | kerio: and that problem with charger? |
| 14:37.33 | kerio | Pali: not sure, my battery is full now :) |
| 14:37.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe I'm mixing up nicks |
| 14:37.38 | Pali | ok |
| 14:37.55 | win7mac | ~seen lma does not work in #jollamobile |
| 14:37.56 | infobot | i haven't seen 'lma does not work in #jollamobile', win7mac |
| 14:38.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: NIN101: please consider using/exploiting your garage webspace |
| 14:39.11 | Pali | what? |
| 14:39.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | you know you can host files and other content on your garage project website? |
| 14:40.00 | NIN101 | I prefer my own server to be honest. |
| 14:40.40 | kerio | oh right, i have to download the new rescueOS |
| 14:40.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | too :-( |
| 14:41.05 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: my garage project website? |
| 14:41.13 | Pali | do I have one? |
| 14:41.31 | kerio | can offer hosting |
| 14:41.35 | kerio | web hosting |
| 14:41.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: well, you probably *ought* have one |
| 14:42.01 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: but he has that weird self-signed web host! |
| 14:42.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: thanks, but that's not what we need |
| 14:42.29 | Pali | I'm happy with university server and specialy with admins :-) |
| 14:42.40 | Pali | My website is running on haskell :-) |
| 14:42.53 | miniyo | do you know if rescueos charging is reliable? |
| 14:43.09 | Pali | rescueos charging should work |
| 14:43.17 | miniyo | Pali: thanks |
| 14:43.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ohgreat! so it's for sure no problem you create an automatic backup to maemo.org of your haskell website |
| 14:43.44 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: fo' srs, though, i have a guaranteed 200Mbps connection and more resources that i need, so if the need arises... |
| 14:44.23 | kerio | this server is a beast, and it's only used for the irc shell of the dude who's paying for it, a public nethack server, a private mumble server and some sporadic minecraft |
| 14:45.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: I doubt the benefits of moving from one non-maemo-related server to an arbitrary other one non-related server |
| 14:45.25 | kerio | but i have 31gb of free ram :( |
| 14:45.28 | Pali | and whats problem with self-signed certificate? if you have buggy web browser, do not use SSL for my webpage |
| 14:45.43 | kerio | hm, this makes me wonder |
| 14:45.53 | kerio | does chrome "accept" the self-signed cert? |
| 14:46.01 | kerio | by showing a broken lock icon or something |
| 14:46.05 | kerio | instead of showing an error page |
| 14:46.20 | Pali | I do not care about broken web browser |
| 14:46.27 | kerio | ~pali |
| 14:46.27 | infobot | somebody said pali was http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/ |
| 14:46.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: not interested in your SSL. it's about backups and consolidation, saving content for times when random other servers will eventually get nuked or bork or whatever |
| 14:46.41 | kerio | nope, chrome shows an error page too |
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| 14:47.01 | kerio | safari is the quickest you can get rid of |
| 14:47.14 | Pali | I can proof that security via SSL is at least same as via plain text HTTP |
| 14:47.51 | kerio | strictly more, i'd say |
| 14:48.09 | kerio | ~rescueos |
| 14:48.09 | infobot | i heard rescue-os is http://206.253.166.96/N900/rescueOS/ |
| 14:48.16 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: what are you waiting for? wget dat shit |
| 14:48.22 | Pali | so why broken web browser show warnings via SSL and via HTTP not?? |
| 14:48.25 | kerio | wget --dat-shit http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/ |
| 14:48.27 | Pali | somewhere is problem |
| 14:48.40 | NIN101 | he already wgeted rescueos. and everyone is welcome to do so. |
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| 14:48.49 | kerio | not rescueos, pali's things |
| 14:48.52 | NIN101 | oh |
| 14:48.59 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: I'm putting every package to extras-devel |
| 14:49.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: I can't do stuff like that for every of you devels out there |
| 14:49.11 | kerio | Pali: yeah but your website is useful too |
| 14:49.15 | Pali | so it is on maemo |
| 14:49.33 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: ...actually, why not? |
| 14:49.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: when there's no additional stuff missing on maemo that lives on your private site only, then I'm fine with that |
| 14:49.58 | kerio | there's not! |
| 14:50.02 | kerio | i mean, there is! |
| 14:50.38 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: I will relase final version of rx51-bme-replacement in next weeks, info will be also on TMO |
| 14:51.04 | Pali | this is I think the only one part which is not in/on cssu/extras-devel/tmo/maemo.org |
| 14:51.48 | Pali | btw, I will be without internet next week... |
| 14:52.06 | kerio | ok, mirrored pali's website |
| 14:52.30 | Pali | recursive wget should be enought for that |
| 14:52.32 | kerio | yup |
| 14:54.17 | kerio | Pali: omg, your rx51-bme-replacement directory is a repo |
| 14:54.23 | kerio | i didn't know |
| 14:54.29 | Pali | yes, it is prepared for release |
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| 14:56.41 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: maybe apt repo for bme replacement could be candidate for garage maemo hosting |
| 14:56.50 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: is this possible? |
| 14:57.26 | miniyo | kerio: a curious note: 15G inside lost+found after fsck |
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| 14:58.02 | miniyo | I managed to run a debian 7 chroot fsck.ext3, but after the damage was done with stock one |
| 14:58.16 | kerio | miniyo: fun! |
| 14:58.19 | miniyo | yea |
| 14:58.28 | kerio | anyway, http://pali.acehack.de |
| 14:58.46 | miniyo | which is the correct way to fsck root? it's fs type is ubifs, is fsck.ext3 the right tool? |
| 14:59.02 | kerio | no |
| 14:59.12 | kerio | it would be fsck.ubifs |
| 14:59.14 | kerio | if it existed |
| 14:59.16 | kerio | but it doesn't |
| 14:59.21 | miniyo | may I lol? |
| 14:59.25 | Pali | miniyo: ubifs has in kernel fsck |
| 14:59.35 | miniyo | oh, good to know, thanks |
| 14:59.42 | kerio | yeah, there's builtin recovery of some sorts |
| 14:59.46 | kerio | and some background garbage collector, too |
| 15:00.05 | kerio | extfs also has a builtin recovery mechanism |
| 15:00.09 | kerio | but sometimes it's not enough |
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| 15:00.31 | miniyo | I'll do regular offline fsck.ext3 on home from now on |
| 15:00.43 | kerio | cssu has a more recent e2fsprogs version |
| 15:01.02 | Pali | miniyo: in cssu-devel there is support for it |
| 15:01.25 | kerio | miniyo: but homefs is barely 3gb |
| 15:01.31 | miniyo | I'm on cssu-testing |
| 15:01.43 | kerio | fsck is going to be slower than tar&&mkfs&&untar |
| 15:01.53 | miniyo | my Mydocs was shrink to 2Gb, and home grown to eat it all |
| 15:02.03 | Pali | :D |
| 15:02.21 | miniyo | yea, it is a joke having a full linux mobile, and using fat |
| 15:02.39 | kerio | meh, MyDocs keeps my music |
| 15:02.46 | Pali | and worse joke is using ptp/mtp |
| 15:04.25 | kerio | just use ntp |
| 15:04.27 | kerio | er |
| 15:04.28 | kerio | nfs |
| 15:04.32 | kerio | don't use ntp to transfer files |
| 15:04.37 | kerio | it's not meant to do that |
| 15:04.44 | Pali | kerio: you do not need to backup whoole site, just maemo projects is maybe enough... |
| 15:04.55 | kerio | Pali: it's much easier to do everything |
| 15:04.59 | kerio | and your website is less than 2MB |
| 15:05.44 | Pali | ok, just to prevent spam harvesters... |
| 15:07.23 | kerio | "More ISPs and other servers monitoring network traffic, so do not forget to encrypt message with my GPG key 03E44352!" |
| 15:07.30 | kerio | are they monitoring us now? D: |
| 15:07.48 | kerio | like if i said, hypothetically, bomb the pentagon |
| 15:08.15 | kerio | or illegal plutonium |
| 15:08.22 | kerio | or barbra streisand |
| 15:08.39 | Raimu-X_ | Or I missed the landing teaching in my flight school |
| 15:15.09 | Pali | NSA for sure |
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| 15:34.10 | miniyo | wow, rsync from rescueOS to root/home, I'm back to the past |
| 15:34.17 | miniyo | but everything works |
| 15:34.42 | miniyo | backup is made from live system, with rsync also, never tried a restore :D |
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| 16:23.36 | Guest99485 | my powertop states c0 98.5 percent but i cannot find any culprit process behind it. please help |
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| 18:18.01 | SpeedEvil | Guest99485 - have you relogged under another name? |
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| 18:19.27 | sixwheeledbeast | I did wonder this, if so pastebin your powertop OP |
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| 18:23.12 | SpeedEvil | http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_software_power_management |
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| 18:33.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | unplug charger |
| 18:33.14 | SpeedEvil | That too, yeah. |
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| 20:15.29 | NeutrinoPower | did someone used the internal serial-Port of the N900? can I control the N900 through this COM-Port or have I to enable this port? |
| 20:16.13 | SpeedEvil | What do you mean by internal serial port? |
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| 20:20.46 | Lava_Croft | NeutrinoPower: http://elektranox.org/n900/adapter/index.html |
| 20:21.02 | NeutrinoPower | http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Hacking |
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| 20:23.53 | NeutrinoPower | will I have a terminal with this RS232-interface after booting? |
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| 20:28.58 | SpeedEvil | In principle, yes, if you use an appropriate voltage adaptor, and have a kernel which is configured to do so. |
| 20:29.03 | SpeedEvil | Why? |
| 20:30.28 | Lava_Croft | hey look, http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8vKnSx_cPW0 |
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| 20:30.34 | Lava_Croft | cm getting a decent camera app |
| 20:31.51 | SpeedEvil | can't youtube right now. |
| 20:31.58 | SpeedEvil | Stupid lighning killed my DSL |
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| 20:52.57 | LjL | i'm trying to understand how good a shape my (just bought used) N900's battery is in... bit confused, because the first time i charged it, it charged to 96% (>1200-ish mah), then today it charged to 80% (~1000mah), but then i unplugged the charger and connected it again (even though it was saying "fully charged") and it reached 95% again |
| 20:53.36 | LjL | i don't have advanced power monitor installed, though i had it for a short time yesterday and there might be leftovers. i have battery-eye, BatteryGraph and a battery widget installed |
| 20:56.12 | ShadowJK | They're all rather flippant |
| 20:56.34 | ShadowJK | And only accurate with fresh battery :) |
| 21:10.47 | sixwheeledbeast | Plus they eat battery. good for watching an application eat you juice. |
| 21:17.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 21:19.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: get bq27k-detail and/or bq27200.sh |
| 21:19.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bq27k-detail |
| 21:19.46 | infobot | i heard bq27k-detail is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq27k-detail2 |
| 21:20.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | it might lie to you as well, but at least it tells when it lies |
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| 21:21.33 | LjL | gets |
| 21:21.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | but in the end of a day, it doesn't really matter what's (been) the charge of your battery. All that matters is how long your device could run without charging |
| 21:23.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | and believe me, very simple little changes in your usage patterns will have way more impact to that standby-figure than any difference between 80% and 95%, no matter if perceived/bogus or real |
| 21:24.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | e.g shutting down LCD backlight brightness by one step might already double your battery-lifetime |
| 21:24.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | NOT using battery-eye and other similar meters may increase standby time by factor 5 or more |
| 21:26.47 | ecc2g | is battery-eye that bad in terms of power consumption? wow... |
| 21:27.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_software_power_management |
| 21:27.12 | ecc2g | I was thinking about all the writes it needs to do, that definitely doesn't help. |
| 21:28.16 | LjL | well i didn't intent to keep battery-eye and BatteryGraph installed indefinitely, this is basically... well, partly a green light to give the seller positive feedback :P |
| 21:29.17 | sixwheeledbeast | Any battery monitor application will use process to log the data, use for diagnoses but not long term IMO. Best tool is powertop really. |
| 21:29.48 | LjL | yeah that wiki page mentions powertop, that's a good hint, i knew about it but probably wouldn't have occurred to me |
| 21:30.37 | SpeedEvil | Battery monitors don't use perceptible power, if written correctly. |
| 21:30.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | powertop doesn't help for hw sanity checks |
| 21:30.48 | SpeedEvil | Logging power every minute or so does not use noticable power. |
| 21:30.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's been that healthcheck app |
| 21:31.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | SpeedEvil: yeah, but those I checked so far very often had quirks |
| 21:31.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | like unconditionally updating graphic display 10/s |
| 21:32.31 | LjL | BatteryGraph has an "update" button, i don't think it updates the display otherwise, and besides, you don't have to keep the actual GUI app running. the background process, though... i have no idea how efficient it is |
| 21:33.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, THAT will need powertop to tell you |
| 21:33.11 | LjL | heh yep |
| 21:34.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | generally lightweight processes are not too bad to battery, even when awaking once per second |
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| 21:34.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | writing to flash otoh... |
| 21:34.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | flash writing is not exactly humble on power |
| 21:35.25 | LjL | the N900's keyboard could use a bunch more keys, methinks |
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| 21:37.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | with bq27200.sh you can do a simple "test" (rather, experiment): run bq27200.sh 30, and then run it with parameter 5. First one will give you idle figures since it always reads out values of past 5s window. so obviously the second reads own power consumption of last cycle |
| 21:39.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | while thanks to beauty of unix and maemo, a sleep nnn doesn't consume any power at all |
| 21:39.43 | SpeedEvil | Also - with properly working power saving wifi - the above sleep 30/... - showing over wifi/ssh - will not use appreciably more power |
| 21:39.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | so you could have 50 "running" scripts that all wait on a sleep 3600 and your power consumption is exactly like on a completely idle system |
| 21:40.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: that too. Note that SpeedEvil did large parts (~90%) of wiki power info |
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| 21:41.58 | ecc2g | I suspect that battery-eye sleeps a lot, but it definitely needs to write to flash. I guess I will have to see if I get 5x standby if I disable it... |
| 21:42.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | a while :; do :; done though... :-o |
| 21:42.39 | ecc2g | :(){:;:&};: ? |
| 21:42.59 | ecc2g | (if I remember it correctly... ugh.) |
| 21:43.13 | ecc2g | (btw, dont try this, please...) |
| 21:43.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | looks correct |
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| 21:44.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, maybe not |
| 21:45.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd probably write it like :(){:&;:};: |
| 21:45.58 | ecc2g | yeah that's probably better |
| 21:46.21 | ecc2g | looks like the original one uses | and not ; for the internal function which makes more sense |
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| 21:48.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | umm |
| 21:52.51 | ecc2g | I also wonder if messybox/ash knows how to run this :) (then again, this should be standard bourne shell...) |
| 22:00.27 | LjL | so, i was reading http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1053809&postcount=846 and am now looking at the bq27k-detail2 output... VDQ = 1, CI = 1, is my understanding correct that this means i should probably let the phone discharge fully without charging it or shutting it down, and after that the battery logic should hopefully be better calibrated? |
| 22:01.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | ecc2g: I bet busybox *will* run this |
| 22:02.42 | ecc2g | yeah i suspect it should, as it's only standard bourne shell versus having bashisms |
| 22:03.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | while I doubt it would run the cure trap "" SIGHUP; while killall -sighup busybox; do :; done |
| 22:06.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I had to kill dbus-scripting this way, when I was silly enough to place the script into the hooks config dir |
| 22:07.11 | ecc2g | LjL: word of warning, make sure you kill bme before it drops to around 3.4V, else it will shutdown and never hit EDV1... |
| 22:07.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's actually amazing how usable maemo still is with such kind of fork bomb running |
| 22:07.49 | ecc2g | interesting... |
| 22:09.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: err yes. |
| 22:09.29 | ecc2g | honestly i've never forkbombed a computer before, i'll have to try it on one of my junk computers. |
| 22:09.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | check dir where you got bq27k-detail from, it should also have a script for calibrating |
| 22:09.48 | LjL | ecc2g: ah, so that page's instructions weren't just so that fancy numbers would show up :P the system doesn't care about the battery being calibrated i guess |
| 22:10.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, system doesn't care |
| 22:10.31 | LjL | DocScrutinizer05: that's bq27200.sh no? |
| 22:11.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1247595#post1247595 |
| 22:12.59 | LjL | ah |
| 22:17.07 | LjL | Last Measured Discharge: 1844mAh - err, right :D |
| 22:17.39 | ecc2g | I got something like that when I first got my n900 |
| 22:19.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | cycles since last learning is interesting |
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| 22:20.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: since calibration is max 1/8 down per learning cycle, you actually might need to run several learning cycles til you reach a correct value for LMD |
| 22:21.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~1844/8*7 |
| 22:21.04 | infobot | 1613.5 |
| 22:21.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~1613/8*7 |
| 22:21.17 | infobot | 1411.375 |
| 22:21.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | two or three |
| 22:22.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | 1844 might be ILMD, which you get after full reset (battery removed for extended periods of time) |
| 22:22.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | see "cycles since last full reset" |
| 22:23.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | if both cycle counts are identical, then you obviously have to have ILMD as LMD |
| 22:25.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw I wrote that little fancy for kerio, who since might have improved it |
| 22:27.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ecc2g: how about forkbombing a VM? |
| 22:27.38 | ecc2g | what fun would that be? :D |
| 22:27.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL |
| 22:27.58 | ecc2g | you know, forkbomb ... UML! HAHAHAHA |
| 22:28.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | UML like unified modeling language? |
| 22:29.02 | ecc2g | user mode linux... a fake VM |
| 22:29.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah |
| 22:29.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | just wondered how to describe a forkbomb in UML |
| 22:32.35 | LjL | DocScrutinizer05: heh i was reading an IRC log from this channel with you and kerio just now, where someone had a 2.7V battery that didn't "flatbatrecover" |
| 22:33.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ummm |
| 22:33.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly defect |
| 22:33.23 | LjL | DocScrutinizer05: "Total Cycle Count since last full reset" is indeed 0, i don't know if the fact i factory reset the phone also influences that |
| 22:33.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, doesn't |
| 22:33.50 | LjL | it's very possible the guy who sold it to me hadn't used it in quite some time, and wisely kept the battery disconnected, anyway |
| 22:34.12 | LjL | although he didn't seem a very "wise" guy considering he had left his ebay login data on the MicroB history :rollseyes: |
| 22:34.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-P |
| 22:35.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | though: |
| 22:35.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:36.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~2062*7/8 |
| 22:36.30 | infobot | 1804.25 |
| 22:36.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | close |
| 22:42.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~1844/8*9 |
| 22:42.00 | infobot | 2074.5 |
| 22:42.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~2062*5/6 |
| 22:42.50 | infobot | 1718.333333333333 |
| 22:46.13 | kerio | i have the fancy .py script if you want |
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| 22:58.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh, that should live on cloud-7, next to the others |
| 22:59.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | damn, there's also been a perl script or sth |
| 23:00.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/ |
| 23:02.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: I think your python lib is missing |
| 23:03.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: please also suggest where it should go to. /usr/lib/python/ ? |
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