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| 00:14.37 | Macer | wow. i just can't seem to come up with a decent method to encode for the n900 with handbrake :-/ |
| 00:14.58 | Macer | i'm trying to read the old plists but i guess handbrake has changed so much since they made those that the plists must be ancient by now |
| 00:17.34 | Macer | and for whatever reason handbrake seems to go far slower than it should for encoding video |
| 00:17.42 | Macer | mplayer with 1 core seems to go like 2-3x faster |
| 00:19.05 | Macer | using tablet-encode/mencoder on my A8 fbsd jail on my freenas box goes like 62fps while scaling. the A10 on the win box goes 20fps |
| 00:19.08 | Macer | wth? |
| 00:19.09 | Macer | that isn't adding up |
| 00:20.51 | Macer | how odd. whatever. i give up heh. |
| 00:21.00 | Macer | i'll just use handbrake when absolutely necessary |
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| 03:01.43 | _jester_ | hello world |
| 03:03.33 | _jester_ | DrCode: has your device arrived as yet ? |
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| 03:04.34 | _jester_ | ecc3g: does your nick signify your signal strength ? |
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| 08:04.32 | Macer | is there a way to change the sensitivity of the scrolling ? |
| 08:05.00 | Macer | i find myself always making it scroll backwards or having it scroll 20 screens |
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| 08:58.27 | psycho_oreos | Macer, maybe buy and apply some sort of screen cover? |
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| 09:39.09 | Macer | psycho_oreos: i already bought and applied a screen cover |
| 09:39.26 | Macer | i think it is more a fundamental flaw in the way the scrolling works |
| 09:39.36 | freemangordon | could some recommend a carholder |
| 09:40.31 | psycho_oreos | Macer, or simply the sensitivity, period. |
| 09:41.20 | psycho_oreos | freemangordon, for N900? I used to use one of the generic branded gps type holder thingy. It works to an extent (until the plastic got brittle and snapped piece by piece). |
| 09:41.58 | freemangordon | psycho_oreos: I need something that can be bought now :) |
| 09:42.12 | freemangordon | ooh, generic |
| 09:42.30 | Macer | psycho_oreos: which is why i was asking if there was a way to adjust it |
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| 09:42.52 | psycho_oreos | freemangordon, not sure where you are but I visited to one of those usual electronic shop. These days velcro grips are the talk (iinm). |
| 09:43.25 | psycho_oreos | Macer, not to my knowledge. I thought usually applying a screen cover is a way to lower the sensitivity threshold. |
| 09:43.49 | freemangordon | naah, those are too fragile, I bough one a while ago, it felt on the floor and got broken |
| 09:44.21 | freemangordon | I am glad I didn;t have time to mount it in the car with n900 in it :) |
| 09:45.07 | psycho_oreos | ouch, I was about to say.. hmm ok I'll try to find that generic holder thingy. They might still sell it. |
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| 09:50.27 | psycho_oreos | Hmm they also sell Belkin Universal Phone Holders. Not sure what they're like. |
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| 09:55.03 | psycho_oreos | freemangordon, http://www.dicksmith.com.au/mobile-phone-accessories/belkin-universal-phone-holder-dsau-e8134 <--- maybe this? |
| 09:55.16 | Macer | http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=n900+car+mount |
| 09:56.45 | Macer | http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xn900+car+mount.TRS0&_nkw=n900+car+mount&_sacat=0&_from=R40 |
| 09:56.50 | freemangordon | doesn't look like any of those will allow me to open the kbd |
| 09:56.55 | Macer | ebay has a few actual otterbox ones |
| 09:58.46 | psycho_oreos | I thought otterbox only makes cases for phones/devices, not car mounts. |
| 09:59.15 | psycho_oreos | Yeah that's true, that's the issue that I had with those universal phone holders for car. |
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| 10:00.03 | psycho_oreos | http://www.amazon.com/GTMax-Windshield-Mount-Holder-Suction/dp/B0038B4BY4/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1373018183&sr=8-13&keywords=n900+car+mount <-- that looks like the one I used to have until individual "legs" started getting brittle and broke off one by one. |
| 10:00.05 | freemangordon | psycho_oreos: yeah, I already research a lot, that is why I am asking here i anyone knows a car mount that is suitable for n900 and still in sale :) |
| 10:00.13 | freemangordon | researeched even |
| 10:00.18 | freemangordon | shit :) |
| 10:01.29 | psycho_oreos | freemangordon, not for one that will allow you to open the keyboard out. :/ I'd be happy if I could find a product that would allow me to do just that. |
| 10:02.31 | freemangordon | psycho_oreos: well, the universal one that got broken was fine. |
| 10:02.41 | freemangordon | it needed just a little tweaking |
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| 10:03.46 | psycho_oreos | freemangordon, in the latter link that I mentioned? if so lol, needs to be removed everytime when one parks their car in the sun. Cheap builds often leads to excessive wear and tear. |
| 10:04.16 | freemangordon | psycho_oreos: yeah, cheap plastic :) |
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| 10:05.52 | psycho_oreos | freemangordon, sadly, and no metal braces to hold "individual legs" in place. There's also this (just browsing through the link Macer posted): http://www.amazon.com/N4U-Accessories-Nokia-Windscreen-Holder/dp/B0087PT6DM/ref=sr_1_30?ie=UTF8&qid=1373018523&sr=8-30&keywords=n900+car+mount |
| 10:06.17 | psycho_oreos | hmm (need to use bit.ly for links to amazon lol). |
| 10:07.49 | psycho_oreos | http://www.amazon.com/iKross-Windshield-Holder-Samsung-Android/dp/B009Z1XIK4/ref=sr_1_38?ie=UTF8&qid=1373018791&sr=8-38&keywords=n900+car+mount <-- seems like I'm getting closer. |
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| 10:12.05 | psycho_oreos | http://www.amazon.com/ZS-Slim-Phone-Mount-Nokia/dp/B006MS89DO/ref=sr_1_83?ie=UTF8&qid=1373019044&sr=8-83&keywords=n900+car+mount <-- no "feet" though. |
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| 13:28.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | finally some fun on freenode - it started to get boring |
| 13:28.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
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| 13:59.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | hey gals n' guys, how about offering freenode to run a server VM on maemo.org infra? |
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| 14:02.01 | Apic | Sounds good. |
| 14:04.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, what I thought. Particularly since they maintain their VM, no workload for maemo techstaff |
| 14:04.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | and resource requirements are modest |
| 14:04.36 | Apic | Cool. |
| 14:05.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | 5Mb bandwidth, 1GB RAM - LOL |
| 14:05.53 | GeneralAntilles | What about DDoS threats? |
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| 14:06.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, that's what I pondered as well, but in the end they'd probably need and use their own IP |
| 14:07.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | nevertheless I'm tending to offer a hidden hub rather than a leaf server |
| 14:08.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | otoh you know irc.kde.org etc which are all just cnames for freenode, might be cool to run irc.maemo.org |
| 14:08.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | but that requires cooperation from Nokia dnsmaster :-S |
| 14:10.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'll try to catch Falk and talk with him about feasibility |
| 14:11.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://freenode.net/hosting_ircd.shtml |
| 14:11.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | outdated, according to freenode staff |
| 14:11.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | nevertheless they pointed me to it |
| 14:13.45 | GeneralAntilles | Might be trademark issues with that. |
| 14:13.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh yeah |
| 14:14.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I'm sure IPHH wouldn't mind if we run the freenode server under their sponsorship and they get mentioned at http://freenode.net/acknowledgements.shtml |
| 14:15.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | thugh it's a pita that maemo community can't use maemo [TM] for such purposes |
| 14:16.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | how about HiFo? |
| 14:16.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | HildonFoundation/IPHH |
| 14:16.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm sure somebody will create a nice logo |
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| 16:01.59 | win7mac | Yet another good idea from DocScrutinizer05 ;-) The technical details are beyond my scope, but basically I think it's a good idea. |
| 16:02.43 | win7mac | I might even create a nice logo if reminded about it next week. |
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| 16:19.29 | GeneralAntilles | Hildon Foundation is fine |
| 16:19.43 | GeneralAntilles | and I think Maemo Community is OK, too. |
| 16:20.16 | ShadowJK | As someone who's had experience running irc servers, I'd say it's a bad idea ;-) |
| 16:20.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/86defde9b7 |
| 16:21.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: please elaborate |
| 16:22.45 | ShadowJK | The freenode server infra is solid as is, so the benefit to freenode would be minimal, and the benefit to maemo users would be minimal. On top of that, most hosting providers (and their providers) forbid it, due to the increased ddos risks. Even if the hosts have capabilioty to filter, up to what their upstram capacity is, the extra workload is often unwelcome. |
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| 16:23.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, much appreciated |
| 16:23.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | does this apply as well for hidden hubs? |
| 16:24.19 | ShadowJK | Hidden hubs get "hit" less often, but when they do, they get hit *hard* |
| 16:25.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | we'd probably implement a policy to simply pause the freenode VM when they start to hog the uplink more than we allowed them to do |
| 16:25.22 | ShadowJK | That doesn't actually work though |
| 16:26.24 | ShadowJK | Usually the only thing that works is to nullroute the entire IP range |
| 16:26.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ugh |
| 16:27.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems I have to talk to the experts at IPHH if they have sharp measures to fight DDoS then, eh? |
| 16:28.20 | ShadowJK | Well, 95% of providers will give *paying* customers a sharp "No!" response to irc :-) |
| 16:28.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehehehehehe |
| 16:28.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | *that* bad? |
| 16:29.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | how's IRC way worse than e.g a vulnerable apache with PHP |
| 16:30.06 | ShadowJK | because that can be fixed with hammer to the machine with the apache |
| 16:30.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, seems I'm in for some flames. I will reconsider my suggestion |
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| 16:31.47 | ShadowJK | The instant nature of irc means that attacking irc infra gives instant results and instant gratification, and instant "revenge" on whoever pissed someone off |
| 16:31.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | though I still fail to see the difference between a DDoS to port 80 and port 6667 |
| 16:32.49 | ShadowJK | Webservers fall over by themselves so often nobody can tell the difference if it was usual php mysql runaway or if it was an attack ;-) |
| 16:32.52 | piggz__ | so, did tizen get scrapped before being launched? thats worse than harmattan |
| 16:32.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, I'm afk. cya l8r |
| 16:34.45 | ShadowJK | an N900 has enough cpu and ram to run a irc server on a 100k user network, so the ddos is just sheer traffic, to any port, or no port in particular |
| 16:35.59 | Sumedhe | Hmmm... I also have used IRC on N900. |
| 16:36.39 | ShadowJK | If the attacker is out for more than just a show of power, and wants to inflict real damage, they'll distribute the attack to every IP in the range, and maybe also hit the upstream provider with a broad barrage |
| 16:37.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | that applies to any server and any service |
| 16:38.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | so unless you say irc servers are particularly prone to DDoS, I don't see any difference |
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| 16:39.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | on the bright side: IRC servers don't get raped by MSDN spiders |
| 16:39.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | nor by benevolent users "just mirroring" |
| 16:40.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, I'm away |
| 16:40.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry |
| 16:47.19 | ShadowJK | Yes, I do say irc servers attract more ddos than other services |
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| 16:55.42 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, there's a certain antipathy tHat IRC providers seem to generate. |
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| 16:57.32 | Fonk | talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1356583#post1356583 |
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| 17:57.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, didn't expect that. Scrap my suggestion then |
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| 18:37.59 | ShadowJK | Anyone remember dalnet when it was under sustained attacks? :) |
| 18:38.42 | ShadowJK | When you pinged and didn't get any replies, reconnected to a different server, and saw 3 copies of yourself from the past talking |
| 18:38.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | never heard of dalnet |
| 18:40.24 | ShadowJK | Well it was the most popular irc network by usercount |
| 18:41.08 | ShadowJK | iirc they probably had about 40 servers, but more or less was killed by ddos |
| 18:45.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | freenode is probably different, in that it manages all servers centralized |
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| 19:58.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ #6 - with silver-white screen frame, and spare mainboard |
| 19:58.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems no urgently need USBfix though |
| 19:59.38 | sixwheeledbeast | you have six pairs of hands ;) |
| 19:59.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonders if he already failed on counting ;-D |
| 20:00.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems to* urgently need USBfix though |
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| 20:11.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry for OT, but... |
| 20:12.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | I just watched in TV what's happening in Kairo and wondered where from I know that. Feels damn sadly like Germany 1932-33 |
| 20:13.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | Admittedly the Germans back when were not as brave to meet in the streets in million-counts. |
| 20:14.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | But we also had paramilitary armed gangs that represented only a few marginal percent of the people, yet they took over |
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| 20:43.09 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, some would argue the outgoing guys are more . . . ideologocially similar to the Nazis. |
| 20:45.45 | ShadowJK | Doesn't matter what their ideology is, if they can't communicate "Well, we're basically fucked, everyone of us. Please work hard!" in a more palatable phrasing, they'll remain fucked. |
| 20:46.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: well, that's what I said at least |
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| 20:50.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | this Morsi guy pushed a constitution that really doesn't earn that name, he neutered jurisdiction, imprisoned journalists that didn't have the right membership book, and finally tolerated some of the totally mentally sick "leaders" to publicly request killing of "the enemies" while he was sitting in the audience |
| 20:50.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | now those idiots bitch about their democratic rights got deprived from them |
| 20:51.27 | Drathir | DocScrutinizer05: but when ppl are angry saying that if good remember the ppl chos me in legal vote and i dont even think go away dont meant any good reaction from protsting thousens of ppl... second side if isnt dictature a miss with comunication and dont speak each other "must" faster or not evolue to bunt and protests... |
| 20:51.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | and the mob goes rush the streets and shoot everybody that's not "them" |
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| 20:56.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not a friend of *any* religion, I'm highly skeptical against religions that look down on others and think they need to convince them of "the one true confession" - but I utterly *hate* those who think they can "win" by using weapons and violence |
| 20:57.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | in short: I'm an anarchist |
| 20:57.07 | ShadowJK | heh |
| 20:58.28 | ShadowJK | I think one of the best advices wrt religion I've ever seen, I read in the quoran. I don't remember the exact wording, but the meaning was essentially "It's pointless to argue/fight with religious lunatics, they'll believe whatever they want to believe, and you will believe whatever you want to believe" |
| 20:59.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd not sit on Tahir place and drink tea and wait for those muslim brothers to rush in and kill me, I'd head home find my M134 |
| 20:59.12 | ShadowJK | Anyways |
| 21:00.00 | ShadowJK | I'd hope that the current interim president would attempt to explain to the people, that free fuel/food isn't going to come back no matter who they elect, and that times will be hard nomatter who they elect |
| 21:00.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | I bet almost everybody knows by now |
| 21:00.51 | Drathir | think any kind of religion is kind of sect in less or more form... |
| 21:01.07 | ShadowJK | Do you think total military takeover would be better? The military was quick to hand over power to that judge, because the military gets lots of money from the US, and that money has terms and conditions attached, one of which is "no military coups" :-) |
| 21:01.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't mind my neighbour praying to the holy spaghetti monster |
| 21:01.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | but please leave me alone with it |
| 21:02.02 | ShadowJK | for sure |
| 21:02.07 | GeneralAntilles | To Each His Own |
| 21:02.15 | GeneralAntilles | Also: leave me the hell alone. |
| 21:08.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | and our brilliant foreign minister Westerwelle complains that removing Morsi was a serious step back for democracy. What a moron. Morsi himself was a serious threat for democracy |
| 21:10.24 | ShadowJK | He hasn't been loud enough to exceed the news threshold here :) |
| 21:10.29 | GeneralAntilles | Problem is, a lot of political types expouse democracy as a good per se. |
| 21:10.52 | GeneralAntilles | Well, we can all vote to have DocScrutinizer05 drawn and quartered. |
| 21:10.59 | GeneralAntilles | Nothing more than mob rule. |
| 21:12.08 | ShadowJK | election polls and such develop mob rule |
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| 21:27.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | when Morsi got elected, there hasn't been a costitution, all that existed was his promise to include all of his people interest and be a president of all Egyptians. This been a blatant lie, and now he and his fanboy club bitch about the 20 mio that demonstrated to remove Morsi didn't obey the democratically installed constitution. That's downright ridiculous |
| 21:29.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | almost as ridiculous as our foreign minister stating basically the same. |
| 21:29.45 | ShadowJK | The world is insane anyways |
| 21:29.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | since from Morsi and his muslim bro's you'd expect exactly that argumentation. Not though from a german politician |
| 21:30.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | El Baradei has put it straight |
| 21:30.44 | ShadowJK | When before, whistle blowers from the USSR revealing their government's opressive surveillance and control of the people fled to the US for sancturary, now whistle blowers from the USA revealing their government's opressive surveillance and control of people flee to Russia |
| 21:31.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, you probably can switch roles between USSR and USA |
| 21:31.31 | GeneralAntilles | It's all politics |
| 21:31.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | not that much of a difference after all |
| 21:31.44 | GeneralAntilles | Although at least our political prisoners seem well fed. |
| 21:31.54 | GeneralAntilles | No gulags in the UD |
| 21:31.57 | GeneralAntilles | US |
| 21:32.12 | GeneralAntilles | Nor are people queing for toiletpaper |
| 21:32.26 | GeneralAntilles | Or likely to be executed by secret police. |
| 21:32.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, they use somewhat more sophisticated tortures than the USSR |
| 21:32.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | like water boarding |
| 21:33.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | or dogs |
| 21:33.21 | GeneralAntilles | Also: not building "American" towns to train spies from birth. |
| 21:33.53 | GeneralAntilles | Nor sending people to jail for "hoarding" food. |
| 21:33.56 | ShadowJK | China is building every town on earth :) |
| 21:34.04 | ShadowJK | They have a London copy, a Paris copy, a NYC copy :) |
| 21:34.10 | ShadowJK | complete with hudson river :) |
| 21:34.13 | GeneralAntilles | All empty. ;) |
| 21:34.16 | ShadowJK | that too :) |
| 21:34.38 | ShadowJK | for a show-off, they'd be better off restoring the chinese wall |
| 21:34.42 | ShadowJK | All the way |
| 21:34.44 | ShadowJK | into mongolia |
| 21:36.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | on a unrelated bot on topic topic: Dremel and a cylindrical diamond mill head made a nice new grip for fingernail to the worn lockswitch of my latest N900 |
| 21:36.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/bot/but7 |
| 21:36.43 | ShadowJK | On my last N900 I used to insert nail between switch and case to activate it |
| 21:36.48 | ShadowJK | the little tab broke off :) |
| 21:36.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | same here |
| 21:37.04 | ShadowJK | Current N900 has intact tab |
| 21:37.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | but that's a bit too cumbersome |
| 21:37.19 | ShadowJK | Became reflex for me |
| 21:37.30 | ShadowJK | I'm probably still doing it on current N900 |
| 21:37.35 | ShadowJK | dunno, muscle memory and such |
| 21:38.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, inserding a tiny object between the lockswitch slider and case would allow for a gap for fingernail |
| 21:38.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | inserting* |
| 21:39.18 | ShadowJK | mine was round enough to create a gap |
| 21:39.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | but my milled-out trench in that tab works as well |
| 21:39.33 | ShadowJK | :) |
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