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07:11.27*** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet
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07:52.27fw190morning Maemo ;)
07:55.30bertogghey, is extras-devel working fine?
07:56.21fw190yesterday it was working
07:56.35fw190I have updated pasta programs just fine ;)
07:56.35bertoggI uploaded a new package but it doesn't appear there yet
07:56.41fw190ahhhh
07:56.50fw190maybe there is still a problem wt autobuilder
07:57.03bertoggok, I'll just wait then
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10:16.45Win7Macgood morning!
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10:29.21bertogghey, is the autobuilder down?
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10:41.22DocScrutinizer05Win7Mac: morning
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10:45.21DocScrutinizer05bertogg: no, orphaned
10:45.40bertoggDocScrutinizer05: so how does one get new packages to extras?
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10:49.14Wizzupbertogg: I think it generally takes a long time for packages to appear
10:49.25bertoggWizzup: ok
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10:50.34DocScrutinizer05bertogg: simple: learn how autobuilder is supposed to work, become autobuilder maintainer, fix autobuilder, watch packages go to extras
10:52.21bertoggI'm not interested, I just wanted to know if it was a known problem or what
10:52.25bertoggthanks for the info
10:52.57DocScrutinizer05well, yes, to techstaff the problems with autobuilder and maemo.org at large are known
10:53.42DocScrutinizer05this however doesn't mean we have somebody with sufficient expertise to fix those problems
10:53.55bertoggyes I understand
10:54.11bertoggI'm not blaming anyone ;) I just wanted to know what was going on
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11:09.32vi__Is it possible to control the vibration motor voltage?
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11:11.55vi__And therefore the motor frequency?
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11:48.59DocScrutinizer05no, and yes
11:49.08DocScrutinizer05;-)
11:49.16DocScrutinizer05not voltage but pulse width
11:53.27DocScrutinizer05vi__: echo 100 > /sys/class/leds/twl4030\:vibrator/brightness
11:53.55DocScrutinizer05yes, it's indeed a 'LED', don't ask me what those kernel devs smoked
11:57.33DocScrutinizer05vi__: or do you want to edit your mci vibrator profiles? then look into /etc/mci/mci.ini
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11:58.07DocScrutinizer05you can do nifty think there. with ramp-up and ramp-down times and whatnot else
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11:58.37DocScrutinizer05even actively *break* the vibrator motor by shorting it, aiui
11:59.00DocScrutinizer05not break like "defect" but like "stop it"
11:59.06DocScrutinizer05bake?
11:59.14DocScrutinizer05brake even
11:59.46DocScrutinizer05damn, this heat makes my speech processor throttle
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12:00.14DocScrutinizer05thus bake probably been right ;-P
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12:04.53DocScrutinizer05vi__: for twl4030\:vibrator/brightness you should avoid values <20 iirc. They might not kick off the vobra motor and thus cause huge powerdrain and heat
12:06.29DocScrutinizer05and I don't know what's maximum for that value (for indicator LED for example you easily can burnout the LED by setting current and brightness too high - similr situation might apply to vibra motor)
12:07.05DocScrutinizer05logic max is 255 iirc
12:07.50DocScrutinizer05technical sweetspot seems around 130..160
12:08.01DocScrutinizer05(max effect)
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12:14.34DocScrutinizer05which reminds me that I managed to completely freeze the whole system with a cd /sys/class/leds/twl4030\:vibrator; while true; do echo 100 >brightness; echo 0 >brightness; done;
12:15.13DocScrutinizer05*completely*
12:15.37DocScrutinizer05not even the shell executing that loop accepted a ^C anymore
12:15.58DocScrutinizer05but that's been a few years ago and probably even another platform
12:16.58DocScrutinizer05maybe nevertheless worth a test nowadays
12:19.37DocScrutinizer05GOD!!! that pr1.2+/hostmode-kernel device sucks donkeyballs at booting
12:20.56DocScrutinizer05you can't boot dat shite with poweplug, always enetrs act_dead mode
12:21.07DocScrutinizer05after ages of black screen
12:24.24DocScrutinizer05actually an art to boot up that device when battery flat
12:27.27DocScrutinizer05GRRR and bq27200 didn't calibrate despite my carefully checking VDQ:1 and stopping bme
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12:32.33DocScrutinizer05still, after boot: http://privatepaste.com/e09f97219b
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12:41.22DocScrutinizer05also wtf, no diff on stock fremantle?
12:41.35DocScrutinizer05aka 2in messybox"?
12:42.26DocScrutinizer05look, another crystal clear indication for
12:42.31DocScrutinizer05~messybox
12:42.31infobot[messybox] messy... err busybox is meant for lean scripting. Regarding all the missing options and immanent limitations (see su, passwd) it's not really the interactive shell of choice. A lot of people hate busybox because a lot of system integrators don't understand the difference between busybox and a decent user interactive shell plus unix utils
12:44.05DocScrutinizer05this is why I think it's not a brilliant idea to try teach messybox new tricks, rather bring a proper shell with proper comprehensive unix tools to fremantle, for those who want a decent interactive shell
12:46.17DocScrutinizer05for those who are in fact not content with messybox since for example swapon missing parameters they would need during boot/systeminit, augmenting messybox to bb-p is probably the wrong idea either. You rather get a decent swapon binary and patch away messybox swapon applet via alternatives or whatever
12:47.51DocScrutinizer05busybox simply violates elementary unix design paradigms
12:50.48DocScrutinizer05basically busybox is like a ghettoblaster where you got cassette player, CD player, radio, battery, powersupply, speakers, antenna, headphone amp, everything in one box
12:52.00DocScrutinizer05for a certain usecase that's fine, but you can't augment, replace, or fix any of the components easily, and you always have to carry the whole cruft with you instead of just taking the things with you that your actually need
12:54.00DocScrutinizer05the unix toolbox concept however is 100% diametrically th eopposite of such design. You got zillions of small function blocks that can do just one thing but that one thing they are perfect in doing. And all those function blocks have same plugs for all inputs and outputs
12:54.26kerioDocScrutinizer05 ranting against busybox
12:54.28kerioshocking
12:54.33DocScrutinizer05LOL
12:55.24jogaswiss army knives aren't very good in whatever functionality they have..but at least all of it fits in the pocket
12:55.36DocScrutinizer05I'm basically not ranting against busybox, I'm ranting against those who think busybox needs to get improved
12:56.16DocScrutinizer05joga: which been the *ONLY* rationale why busybox got used for maemo
12:57.18jogaguess so
12:57.24DocScrutinizer05and for that particular purpose of executing init scripts busybox is... almost perfect
12:58.04DocScrutinizer05but teaching busybox to become a proper interactive shell is like teaching a corgy to be a panther
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12:59.00jogaheh
13:00.08jogasurely there's stuff to improve without ending up implementing all of said utilities again
13:00.32DocScrutinizer05hell, I know busybox from very first beta that got released, and i always wondered why the heck anybody would bother to build such thing. For embedded with scarce resources it makes sense, but then for such environment it doesn't make any sense at all to bloat busybox to a degree where it could compete with a true shell plus unix tools
13:02.55DocScrutinizer05and nothing on maemo needs to get re-implemented. We got all commandline tools either as package already or we can build them from source by pressing a button, a nobrainer.
13:04.48jogayeah, I meant in general that it should be improved as the army knife it is
13:05.01DocScrutinizer05no need for that either
13:05.09jogait's perfect already?
13:05.14DocScrutinizer05nobody wants to use it as an interactive shell anyway
13:05.28DocScrutinizer05so why improve it unless it has bugs
13:06.07jogasometimes using it has been the path of least resistance, so it could be less irritating
13:06.36rikaneebut Busybox's ash syntax sux.
13:06.59rikaneethen again, most everything was in Upstart init syntax, which sux real hard.
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13:07.14rikaneeso I guess the OSSO team was full of… masochists?
13:07.57DocScrutinizer05look, when you get an account on a arbitrary new system, say maybe your new distro you installed, and you find it has cshell for your default shell, what will you do? will you try to improve csh so you can finally live with it, or do you simply do a sudo chsh -s /bin/bash <myself> ?
13:09.53jogaDocScrutinizer05, assuming bash is available, sure I'll just pick that :;
13:09.57joga:)
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13:15.10jogaheh I know a guy who uses twm because "it's the standard window manager" :)
13:18.38DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: ^^^ see my above rant regarding busybox(-power)
13:18.59DocScrutinizer05I still fail to see why we need bb-p in cssu
13:20.23DocScrutinizer05if somebody is so in love with bb-p that (s)he prefers it over bash, then (s)he is free to install in to /usr/bin/ash2 or /usr/bin/busybox-power or whatever, and make it their default shell.
13:20.33ecc3gugh...dont remind me. my employer uses csh and it's pretty much forced upon.  chsh to bash breaks a lot of scripts and not worth the effort to fix, so I learned to cope with the frustrations of csh...
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13:22.24DocScrutinizer05is your employer ericsson or st-micro? ;-P
13:22.53ecc3gno but thanks for giving me reasons to avoid those companies =p
13:23.04DocScrutinizer05or does your job have anything to do with android?
13:23.11ecc3gnope
13:23.35ecc3gandroid uses csh??!?!
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13:23.44DocScrutinizer05(not all in android is csh based, but parts or certain forks seem to be)
13:24.00jaskahmm
13:24.02ecc3gHmm... think I should go buy a cheap android phone to play with...
13:24.08jaskathey should make busybox include csh!
13:24.14DocScrutinizer05e.g part of the fork used in st-e
13:24.17ecc3goh god...
13:24.23jaska(sorry, trolling)
13:24.27ecc3gheh :)
13:24.42DocScrutinizer05:-D
13:25.25Win7MacBoD-meeting info: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1353462#post1353462
13:27.32DocScrutinizer05re that pr1.2++/hostmode-kernel system I mentioned above: it really gives me a laugh each time I boot it and it comes up with a chime and a notifier "384 new mails", sth that it never does during the rest of uptime. Seems modest never again gets started, but one time during hildon-startup it does check for new mail
13:35.08Win7MacGeneralAntilles: leveraged?
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13:57.49tzafrirso, any idea what I should do with my n900 that most of the times won't ring?
13:58.18tzafrirWhen it does ring, it uses the default ring tone and not the ring tone I set it to use
14:12.47DocScrutinizer05maybe reflash?
14:14.04DocScrutinizer05tbh you rproblems sound like sth wrong with your $HOME
14:14.29DocScrutinizer05have you updated to cssu-t8 ?
14:15.37DocScrutinizer05what does your mount show for eMMC? aka mmcblk0p2
14:17.32DocScrutinizer05wow, wtf goes on on repo?
14:21.00DocScrutinizer05hmm, somebody mirroring or spidering *.maemo.org it seems
14:25.21Win7MacBTW, is the new switch already in place?
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14:38.52tzafrirDocScrutinizer05, /dev/mmcblk0p2 on /home type ext3 (noatime,nodiratime,errors=continue,commit=1,data=writeback)
14:39.31tzafrirI'm on the testing community repo
14:46.01tzafrirtried upgrading with apt-get . libstdc++ and libgcc1 were not up-to-date and apt-get was having problems with updating them
14:46.11tzafrirInstalled aptitude. aptitude upgrade worked
14:52.28tzafrirI'm trying to change something in the Phone settings in the Settings. I press Save, but when I go back, the old value is used.
14:52.34tzafrirWhere are the settings saved?
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15:00.09tzafrirmaybe that *and* a reboot fixed it.
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15:06.32DocScrutinizer05what, you updated libstdc++ and libgcc?
15:08.53vi__The reason I asked about the motor was some stupid idea I was thinking about using it as a speaker.
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16:24.17Lava_Crofthttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90517
16:27.40RaimuWhy is there a character limit in modest?
16:28.16RaimuSome of the monthly e-mail aggregates I receive trigger a "character limit reached" warning on modest.
16:29.38RaimuI'm checking some of the documentation on the app and this limit isn't mentioned as far as I can find.
16:37.24sixwheeledbeastDocScrutinizer05: Did you see <<<<(20/06/13 00:15:35) sixwheeledbeast: <<(18:46:13) DocScrutinizer05: if you can't reproduce this, then I'd be highly interested to hear about it>>  http://privatepaste.com/dd88063566>>>>
16:37.46DocScrutinizer05err yes
16:38.04DocScrutinizer05which system, which kernel?
16:38.35sixwheeledbeastwhat do you think, I have done this on two of my devices. Both CSSU-S and KP52
16:38.54DocScrutinizer05cssu-t and stock kernel here
16:39.31DocScrutinizer05maybe somebody "fixed" that in PK?
16:39.55sixwheeledbeastDoes the KP fix this? Should I ping Pali?
16:39.55DocScrutinizer05after all it's a long known annoyance
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16:40.17DocScrutinizer05even heritage from diablo
16:40.57DocScrutinizer05check changelog for "persistent devicenames" or sth similar
16:42.11sixwheeledbeastkernel powers changelog is located where, in source?
16:44.23sixwheeledbeasthmm.. source is missing in package interface
16:44.56RaimuHmh, found it in sources but still didn't pick up what limitation it is
16:45.10Raimu(Sorry, talking about this modest thing)
16:48.30sixwheeledbeastwill look later going afk
16:55.55Win7MacAnybody knows something about tweaking flash version on N9?: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1353510
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17:14.43RaimuMaybe people on #meego might know?
17:16.24DocScrutinizer05or on #harmattan
17:17.00DocScrutinizer05~weather EDDN
17:17.55Win7Macno activity on #meego + #harmattan
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17:32.37DocScrutinizer05in #meego there've been ~10 lines on 13. and 15., and one line on 16.
17:33.28DocScrutinizer05#armattan has some lines every day at least
17:39.09Lava_Croft:)
17:39.33Lava_Croftsounds like my n900 n9 usage
17:39.37Lava_Crofteven tho the n9 has the sim
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17:51.03Win7Macposted in both channels - no response. I hope for TMO...
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18:06.05Win7Maccan't this be done on N9?: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1276589#post1276589
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20:23.35_rdIs anybody using navit from "deb http://download.navit-project.org/navit/n800/svn/ chinook user" ?
20:23.43_rdI get
20:23.56_rddpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/navit_svn-5539_armel.deb (--unpack):                                                                        
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20:28.28DocScrutinizer05chinook? hardly
20:29.37DocScrutinizer05why not diablo?
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20:43.29Win7Macfurther ideas to tweak flash version? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1353544#post1353544
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20:56.16DocScrutinizer05Woody14619: a extra huge thankyou for taking care about all that mess
20:57.02Win7Mac+1
20:57.28DocScrutinizer05and indeed it's extremely sad that we are no step further than where we been 9 months ago, with that HiFo baby
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21:06.15DocScrutinizer05sorry, offline at nn:57:30
21:06.37DocScrutinizer05and indeed it's extremely sad that we are no step further than where we been 9 months ago, with that HiFo baby
21:09.18DocScrutinizer05ahh, nothing got lost
21:11.44ShadowJKSorry, but I've been kinda absent... what mess, what step? summary? :D
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21:23.10_rdDocScrutinizer05, good question, I think they build generic packages.
21:23.32_rdso I would not worry about the chinook, but let me check....
21:24.57_rdyes, they have only chinook builds. Even if it would be really chinook, I should not get an archive error(?)
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21:56.44DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: mess with Hifo
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