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| 03:16.09 | Ex-Opesa | HI, the camera-ui2 stuck a lot after I capture more then 1-2 pictures. I am not able to take pictures in row. I like CSSU, is there anyway to remove camera-ui2? |
| 03:16.28 | Ex-Opesa | Thank you. |
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| 04:53.53 | oldtopmann | Getting a few stale nfs errors, seems like the chroot fs is corrupt :/ |
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| 05:32.07 | MrOpposite | Bye bye n900 :( |
| 05:32.22 | MrOpposite | My micro-usb port is dead |
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| 05:43.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | MrOpposite: fix it, find sb to fix it, or offer the device for purchase here |
| 05:43.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~usbfix |
| 05:43.49 | infobot | [usbfix] http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) |
| 05:46.28 | MrOpposite | hmm |
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| 05:55.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | oldtopmann: yeah, sounds like that. Anyway you're lucky, stale NFS usually fixable by fsck |
| 05:56.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | for the reboot during installation, check for general "reboot while copying large files ..." error, and swappolube resp generic tweaks to IO-settings |
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| 06:07.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | MrOpposite: if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask |
| 06:07.10 | MrOpposite | Yeah |
| 06:07.11 | MrOpposite | UHm |
| 06:07.18 | MrOpposite | I just disassembled my n900 |
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| 06:07.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | be careful with tha flex connector |
| 06:07.44 | MrOpposite | and I'm holding my USB-port in one hand |
| 06:07.50 | MrOpposite | and the motherboard in the other |
| 06:07.53 | MrOpposite | now what? |
| 06:08.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | make a macro snapshot of the PCB where USB been, post URL here |
| 06:08.26 | MrOpposite | Ah |
| 06:08.27 | MrOpposite | Uhm |
| 06:08.31 | MrOpposite | Hmm |
| 06:08.43 | MrOpposite | Time to get creative, as my main camera is my n900 |
| 06:08.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | preferably even a few more than one |
| 06:09.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | do you have a scanner? |
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| 06:09.45 | MrOpposite | I do, in fact, have a scanner |
| 06:09.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | _some_ scanners are *great* for higres-macros |
| 06:10.54 | MrOpposite | my old digital camera is useless on macros it seems |
| 06:11.00 | MrOpposite | brb, check my scanner |
| 06:11.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Gallery-N900-exploded/ |
| 06:14.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | the last 6 pics are from scanner |
| 06:16.32 | MrOpposite | hmm, cool |
| 06:16.33 | MrOpposite | anyhow |
| 06:16.40 | MrOpposite | I didn't have the scanner drivers installed |
| 06:16.47 | MrOpposite | so I'm just gonna install those |
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| 06:19.19 | MrOpposite | Hmm |
| 06:19.29 | MrOpposite | How do I get the part which holds the memory card loose? |
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| 06:21.17 | MrOpposite | DocScrutinizer05 ^ |
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| 06:23.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | gently pry it off, it's held by doublesided sticky tape |
| 06:23.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | be extremely carefull with the flexible part of the PCB, it's NOT fixable |
| 06:24.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | quite sturdy but not fixable |
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| 06:25.49 | MrOpposite | thanks |
| 06:25.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw, np |
| 06:26.02 | MrOpposite | Now my "gentle prying tool" come in handy :P |
| 06:28.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ps: slightly increased temperature might help a lot |
| 06:28.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | like ~40°C |
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| 06:28.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | but not mandatory, just you need more patience for sticky to come off when it's cold |
| 06:28.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | might take a minute or two |
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| 06:30.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | if the sticky gets too messed up during removal, just discard it (or cut off and discard the messed up parts) - it's not really needed |
| 06:31.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | you also can use arbitrary similar ds-stickytape and cut small stripes from it to replace the original |
| 06:31.40 | MrOpposite | Uhm |
| 06:31.45 | MrOpposite | I already pried it off |
| 06:31.45 | MrOpposite | http://imgur.com/a/XSQEG |
| 06:32.02 | MrOpposite | My scanner didn't work THAT great though :( |
| 06:32.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhm |
| 06:32.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | good anyway, you now have access |
| 06:33.04 | MrOpposite | But I think you can make out that I'm missing a pretty important part... |
| 06:33.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | but yeah, your scanner is even more picky with focus distance than the one I used |
| 06:33.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, that's obvious |
| 06:34.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | the question is if all the 5 small pads parallel to the border of PCB are silver still |
| 06:34.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I can't tell that from your scans |
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| 06:35.12 | MrOpposite | uhm |
| 06:35.13 | MrOpposite | yeah |
| 06:35.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | then you're lucky :-D |
| 06:35.43 | MrOpposite | uhm |
| 06:35.43 | MrOpposite | no |
| 06:35.47 | MrOpposite | I'm quite unlucky |
| 06:35.51 | MrOpposite | Where did I place my usb port? |
| 06:35.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | soldering a new USB receptacle is basically a nobrainer |
| 06:36.18 | MrOpposite | found it |
| 06:36.22 | MrOpposite | I need a new one? |
| 06:36.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | you should get a new one |
| 06:36.41 | MrOpposite | where does one accuire a new one? |
| 06:36.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless the old one looks like perfect condition |
| 06:37.02 | MrOpposite | old one looks pretty abused |
| 06:37.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ebay usually offers them, sometimes in packages of 10 |
| 06:37.10 | MrOpposite | While I have my n900 open |
| 06:37.18 | MrOpposite | what can I do to fix my audio port? |
| 06:37.27 | MrOpposite | That one is non functional as well |
| 06:37.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooooh |
| 06:37.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | check the locatiion where you would expect the AV receptacle |
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| 06:38.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | you'll find there's no component |
| 06:38.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | clean the golden pads |
| 06:38.24 | MrOpposite | okay |
| 06:38.28 | MrOpposite | thanks for the help! |
| 06:38.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | clean the springs of receptacle (still sitting in plastic case) |
| 06:38.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | paper is best for cleaning |
| 06:39.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | unvarnished paper, like newspaper |
| 06:39.06 | MrOpposite | Okay |
| 06:39.11 | MrOpposite | No alcohol or similar? |
| 06:39.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | or some business cards are like that |
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| 06:39.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | no |
| 06:39.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | no detergents |
| 06:39.30 | MrOpposite | ok |
| 06:40.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | just thoroughly (springs: carefully) rub/brush it with paper |
| 06:40.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you dare, you could *carefully* bend the springs out a 10% |
| 06:41.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | so they get some power again to press against the pads |
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| 06:41.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | but be *careful* not to break them, or you'll have to get a new AV receptacle from Nokia Care (probably ~2.99USD) |
| 06:42.00 | MrOpposite | okay |
| 06:42.08 | MrOpposite | They're good now I think |
| 06:42.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | inspect all contacts with a mignifying glass |
| 06:42.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | mag.. |
| 06:43.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | also inspect the electric pads of USB and make sure they are no little craters lower then the surface of PCB around |
| 06:43.29 | MrOpposite | http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nokia-7210C-N86-C5-03-N900-Micro-USB-Charging-Block-Unit-Port-Connector-New-UK-/170826356694?pt=UK_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item27c60b57d6 |
| 06:43.37 | MrOpposite | Will that work? |
| 06:43.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 06:43.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | looks like |
| 06:44.35 | MrOpposite | I think I'll come back here when my parts arrive |
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| 06:45.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok |
| 06:46.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | find somebody ho can actually solder those delicate things |
| 06:46.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | who* |
| 06:46.41 | MrOpposite | Okay, I guess I'll bring my half-broken n900 with me to romania in august |
| 06:46.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | *good* cellphone repair shops should be willing and able to do it |
| 06:46.54 | MrOpposite | Where the best solder guy I know lives... |
| 06:47.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | protect camera lens with sticka tape |
| 06:47.34 | MrOpposite | ah, good tip! |
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| 06:50.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | and whoever touches the N900 PCB for repair or whatever, tell him to be damn careful with the flexible part! |
| 06:50.36 | MrOpposite | the memory card thing? |
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| 06:52.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 06:53.47 | MrOpposite | will do |
| 06:53.50 | MrOpposite | thanks for all the help! |
| 06:53.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's not really sensible/delicate, but you can't fix it, and some dudes just don't care about it at all so it actually breaks on bending it too much |
| 06:54.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | the flex to screen half *is* *very* delicate |
| 06:54.49 | MrOpposite | ah, yes, the ribbon cable |
| 06:54.58 | MrOpposite | I'm not gonna let anybody touch that :P |
| 06:56.52 | MrOpposite | other than the charging slot and the AV jack the phone is near mint |
| 06:57.01 | MrOpposite | I've had it in a flipcase the whole time |
| 06:57.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's fine :-) |
| 06:57.15 | MrOpposite | although the flipcase is worn as hell... |
| 06:58.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | the flex to screen, the most delicate part (surprisingly) is the connector at end |
| 06:58.42 | MrOpposite | ok, why? |
| 06:58.45 | MrOpposite | or rather |
| 06:58.48 | MrOpposite | why is that suprising? |
| 07:00.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's 3 layer with vias (interconnections soldered) between the layers. Bend it and they snap open |
| 07:00.34 | MrOpposite | oh |
| 07:00.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's maybe a bit surprising since it looks and feels the sturdiest part of the whole flex cable |
| 07:00.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | it isn't |
| 07:00.34 | MrOpposite | yeah |
| 07:00.34 | MrOpposite | I guess you just saved me a bunch of money :P |
| 07:00.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | my pleasure |
| 07:00.36 | MrOpposite | I was thinking of buying the new jolla phone though |
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| 07:01.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | I preordered yesterday - though I tried hard to not do that |
| 07:01.20 | kerio | hahaha |
| 07:01.45 | kerio | "noooo hand what are you doing? stop it! don't click on 'preorder'! no! nooooooooooooooo" |
| 07:01.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually I expect the companies to send those things to me for free |
| 07:02.57 | MrOpposite | Heh, really? |
| 07:02.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~joerg |
| 07:02.58 | infobot | [joerg] an ex HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko, now mainly involved in maintenance of maemo and N900. Usually known as DocScrutinizer |
| 07:02.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | damn bot |
| 07:02.58 | MrOpposite | Woohoo! my replacement phone (an older nokia) had a micro SD card |
| 07:02.58 | MrOpposite | slot |
| 07:02.58 | MrOpposite | and I just slided my n900 card into it |
| 07:03.10 | MrOpposite | Oh, cool |
| 07:03.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | good MOOOOORNING! |
| 07:04.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~lazy |
| 07:04.43 | infobot | Hard work may pay off later, but LAZINESS pays off now! Work hard at hardly working! |
| 07:04.43 | MrOpposite | and now I can listen to my media files even though I can't ssh |
| 07:04.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ping |
| 07:04.43 | infobot | ~pong |
| 07:04.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | omg |
| 07:04.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+status |
| 07:04.43 | infobot | Since Thu Jun 13 04:33:38 2013, there have been 0 modifications, 4 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands. I have been awake for 2h 31m 5s this session, and currently reference 119071 factoids. I'm using about 18384 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 7.55/0.25 child 0/0 |
| 07:05.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ping |
| 07:05.53 | infobot | ~pong |
| 07:05.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm |
| 07:06.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | better |
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| 07:10.40 | MrOpposite | Hmm |
| 07:10.52 | MrOpposite | It feels weird having 16gb on this old phone... |
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| 07:10.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe |
| 07:11.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | take care, it might mess up the filesystem when you dare to write to it |
| 07:11.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | if it isn't designed to handle 16GB |
| 07:11.54 | MrOpposite | LOL |
| 07:12.18 | MrOpposite | My phones internal memory is not large enough to build the multimedia library from my SD card |
| 07:12.28 | kerio | happens |
| 07:12.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | haha, see what I mean ;-) |
| 07:13.31 | MrOpposite | there |
| 07:13.42 | MrOpposite | removed an image and now I'm good to go :P |
| 07:14.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | suddenly notices that with the thinkpad T500 also the cardreader went out of business and now no more way to access cards directly from my PC |
| 07:15.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | should get a USB cardreader |
| 07:15.37 | MrOpposite | My phone froze... |
| 07:15.45 | MrOpposite | I miss my n900 :( |
| 07:15.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | hah |
| 07:16.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+status |
| 07:16.50 | infobot | Since Thu Jun 13 04:33:38 2013, there have been 0 modifications, 5 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands. I have been awake for 2h 43m 12s this session, and currently reference 119071 factoids. I'm using about 18384 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 8.05/0.31 child 0/0 |
| 07:17.13 | MrOpposite | I have a bot as well |
| 07:17.21 | MrOpposite | On a friends-only channel |
| 07:17.26 | MrOpposite | And that bot can execute python |
| 07:17.39 | MrOpposite | and my friends told it to calculate a gogoplex |
| 07:17.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, this one isn't "my" bot, i just have some admin privileges on it |
| 07:17.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+chaninfo |
| 07:17.55 | infobot | 87/87 channels, 2039 users, 1494 unique: #gsoc/325, #maemo/214, #asterisk/183, #oe/144, #harmattan/117, #meego/113, #webos-internals/85, #utah/81, #wowhead/70, #bzflag/60, #/50, #maemo-ssu/43, #asterisk-dev/41, #n9/36, #slug/33, #gllug/29, #norganna/18, #brlcad/17, #storm/17, #asterisk-bugs/16, #nslu2-linux/16, #openjtag/15, ##guleague/15, #bzflag-chat/15, #gooseproject/14, #handhelds/14, #utos/12, #wowprogramming/12, ##ducleague/11, #flow3/11, ... |
| 07:17.58 | MrOpposite | Apparently my server was running at 100% CPU for about a week |
| 07:18.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | wut? 87?? |
| 07:18.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~die |
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| 07:19.33 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
| 07:19.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | was about time |
| 07:19.58 | *** mode/#maemo [+v infobot] by ChanServ |
| 07:20.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+chaninfo |
| 07:20.05 | infobot | 86/87 channels, 2038 users, 1496 unique: #gsoc/326, #maemo/215, #asterisk/184, #oe/145, #harmattan/119, #meego/116, #webos-internals/85, #utah/81, #wowhead/70, #bzflag/60, #/50, #maemo-ssu/43, #asterisk-dev/41, #n9/37, #slug/33, #gllug/29, #norganna/18, #brlcad/17, #storm/17, #asterisk-bugs/16, #nslu2-linux/16, #openjtag/15, ##guleague/15, #bzflag-chat/15, #gooseproject/14, #handhelds/14, #utos/12, #flow3/12, ##ducleague/11, #debianppc/11, ... |
| 07:20.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | *cough* |
| 07:20.43 | MrOpposite | what's wrong? :O |
| 07:20.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | wasn't this 117 a few weeks ago? |
| 07:21.19 | MrOpposite | Dunno, I'm not that active on IRC |
| 07:21.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure sure |
| 07:21.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | also OT in here, I'll ask Tim (owner) |
| 07:26.20 | MrOpposite | woah that micro usb port is dusty! |
| 07:27.02 | MrOpposite | I wonder... is that data only, or can I charge from it? |
| 07:29.07 | MrOpposite | nope, no charging from usb |
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| 07:32.22 | MrOpposite | This phone does NOT have true multitasking... |
| 07:32.31 | MrOpposite | It barely have singletasking |
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| 09:19.59 | jaska | microsoft infobob |
| 09:22.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | freenode denies any changes to /join policy |
| 09:22.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | nevertheless the bot gets lots of rejects, and eventually goes down completely after 10min |
| 09:22.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+chaninfo |
| 09:22.17 | infobot | 58/58 channels, 2477 users, 2042 unique: #debian/1225, #maemo/219, #asterisk/191, #meego/122, #harmattan/121, #webos-internals/84, #wowhead/68, #/50, #maemo-ssu/47, #asterisk-dev/43, #n9/38, #storm/17, #asterisk-bugs/17, #nslu2-linux/16, ##guleague/15, #bzflag-chat/15, #flow3/13, #utos/12, #wowprogramming/11, #asterisk-doc/10, #ldstech/10, ##pxe/10, ##lds/9, #buglabs/8, #catroid/8, #elive/8, #sporewiki/7, #infobot/6, #flyspray/5, #openwest/5, ... |
| 09:22.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | busy like hell |
| 09:22.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | sth severely broken |
| 09:25.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL |
| 09:25.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | RTT 71s |
| 09:25.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I bet in 5 min it goes down again |
| 09:25.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | also 58chan FFS |
| 09:25.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | been 126 |
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| 11:59.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack |
| 11:59.36 | ibot | :), DocScrutinizer05 |
| 12:00.33 | jaska | i, bot. |
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| 12:00.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | ibot: botsnack |
| 12:00.34 | ibot | DocScrutinizer05: thanks |
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| 12:00.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | **SIGH** |
| 12:01.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway... |
| 12:01.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | all I can do for now |
| 12:02.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | I just hope Tim isn't in holiday as well, like marius |
| 12:02.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | friggin bots |
| 12:02.46 | *** mode/#maemo [+v ibot] by ChanServ |
| 12:03.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+chanset #maemo |
| 12:03.07 | ibot | chan: #maemo (see _default also) |
| 12:03.07 | ibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:04.25 | infobot | ibot: seen infobot |
| 12:04.37 | infobot | lol |
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| 12:10.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~chnick ibot infobot |
| 12:10.20 | ibot | user docscrutinizer05 or ibot does not exist. |
| 12:10.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | uhuh |
| 12:11.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wantnick |
| 12:11.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wantnick infobot |
| 12:15.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | *double-sigh* |
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| 12:22.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | double*double-sigh* |
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| 13:11.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | just for those who aren't aware and might wonder: shutting down the N900 takes ~15s *after* the screen gone black and white indicator LED faded away |
| 13:12.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | just in case you wonder when it's safe to remove the battery - better wait another 30s after it seems like device has shut down |
| 13:13.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | (you can *test* it though: device is down when indicator LED comes up (fades in) when you briefly (<1s) press the power button) |
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| 13:28.35 | auenf | yea, always noticed it wouldnt turn straight back on after the led went out |
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| 13:39.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | dman recaller doesn't record SIP calls |
| 13:43.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | first line of /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/recaller.py: <U+FEFF>#!/bin/sh |
| 13:43.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL |
| 13:43.22 | jaska | .py |
| 13:43.29 | jaska | unicode bom |
| 13:43.50 | jon_y | more like bomb |
| 13:43.54 | jaska | yeah |
| 13:44.07 | jon_y | windows editors do that a lot |
| 13:46.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# head -n 1 /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/recaller.py|od -cx |
| 13:46.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | 0000000 357 273 277 # ! / b i n / s h \n |
| 13:46.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:46.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | and it *still* works, kudos to linux |
| 13:47.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | though actually, that's a weird shebang for a python prog |
| 13:48.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess it never worked |
| 13:48.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd bet the .desktop invokes "python /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/recaller.py" |
| 13:52.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, no |
| 13:52.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's a widget, but where does it get started? |
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| 13:54.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# grep Exec /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.tomch.recaller.service |
| 13:54.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | Exec=/opt/tomch.com/recaller/recaller |
| 13:54.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# ll /opt/tomch.com/recaller/recaller |
| 13:54.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | ls: Zugriff auf /opt/tomch.com/recaller/recaller nicht möglich: No such file or directory |
| 13:55.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | HD widgets are weird |
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| 14:01.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway: grep "#The usual way" -A28 /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/recaller.py |
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| 15:04.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ |
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| 16:04.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
| 16:04.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~. |
| 16:04.33 | infobot | methinks ~. is not the escape sequence you're looking for. |
| 16:04.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo . |
| 16:04.46 | infobot | . -- last modified at Mon Dec 26 01:43:05 2011 by dwc-!dwc@205.209.190.118; it has been requested 75 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 14s ago. |
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| 17:19.04 | merlin1991 | ~fmtxd |
| 17:29.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack |
| 17:29.20 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: aw, gee |
| 17:29.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys txd |
| 17:29.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys fm |
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| 17:30.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: you're sure? |
| 17:30.47 | merlin1991 | ? |
| 17:30.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues fmtx |
| 17:31.19 | merlin1991 | I was hoping there might be one |
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| 17:51.35 | merlin1991 | ~seen chemist |
| 17:51.42 | infobot | chemist <chemist@78.33.177.154> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 790d 17h 35m 37s ago, saying: 'it doesn't matter which mirror I try, I get "mirror does not support the specified release (squeeze)" every time'. |
| 17:51.42 | merlin1991 | ~seen chem|st |
| 17:51.42 | infobot | chem|st is currently on #maemo #harmattan #maemo-ssu, last said: 'Win7Mac: and again... I am no admin of m.o I am talkmaster only'. |
| 17:51.57 | merlin1991 | then my autocomplete is trolling me :D |
| 17:52.26 | merlin1991 | according to my client he is offline |
| 17:52.27 | merlin1991 | wtf |
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| 17:53.11 | merlin1991 | ~ask infobot why you so drunk?= |
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| 17:54.06 | merlin1991 | heh seems my client is drunk |
| 17:54.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah |
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| 17:54.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | ohwell, quassel |
| 17:54.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=455833#post455833 is all i found |
| 17:55.06 | merlin1991 | well it could also be that the various netsplits of the last days had this effect |
| 17:55.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | and a cloudy memory that patched fmtxd been courtesy jacekowski |
| 17:55.57 | merlin1991 | hist weburl/binary/* is 403 now though :/ |
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| 17:59.35 | Saif | New maemo user, Bought a used mobile from ebay. got a couple of questions. |
| 18:00.24 | merlin1991 | ~ask |
| 18:00.24 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 18:03.03 | Saif | Okay.. I got a lot to ask. First thing is my fone was slow for about about 2 hours. I switched it off. Now when I boot it up, it shows a boot menu. when I choose the first setting. Its ot starting up. |
| 18:05.14 | merlin1991 | you bought it on ebay I'd start with a clean full reflash of the system |
| 18:05.18 | merlin1991 | ~flashing |
| 18:05.18 | infobot | i guess maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
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| 18:05.58 | Saif | Well, The battery was low. Now I swapped with another battery and it boots up maemo. Why? low battery causes some issue like that? |
| 18:07.47 | Saif | @merlin. I also thought about flashing. but before I do that, I guess I need the lock code. ?? |
| 18:09.33 | Saif | that slow down issue is fixed somehow. I guess that too was a problem of low battery. |
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| 18:12.16 | Saif | but the major question I wanted to ask is when I try to make calls, it says cellular connection not avaible something like that. I wanted to know whether It can be fixed by flashing or is thatsome kind of operator lock.? |
| 18:16.59 | Saif | I may go offline anytime if power fails.. here its raining heavily. |
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| 18:19.14 | Saif | Can Nokia software updater do flashing or should i use the flasher. silly doubt. |
| 18:20.12 | GI_Jack | saif - use the flasher |
| 18:20.26 | GI_Jack | also, look into live updates |
| 18:20.34 | GI_Jack | and you can use apt on the command line like debian |
| 18:21.47 | GI_Jack | and look into the CSSU, which is the community support project |
| 18:21.48 | Saif | okay. does it require lock code bcoz i dont know the code |
| 18:21.48 | GI_Jack | no |
| 18:21.48 | GI_Jack | you need a working data connection, wireless counts |
| 18:21.48 | GI_Jack | and you nee droot |
| 18:21.48 | GI_Jack | root |
| 18:21.48 | GI_Jack | or go into the software app, and update |
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| 18:21.48 | Saif | okay,I am gonna flash it. |
| 18:21.48 | GI_Jack | the nokia page for maemo flasher is down, probably for good |
| 18:21.56 | GI_Jack | there is a community mirror which needs to codes |
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| 18:22.04 | GI_Jack | check the wiki, and search the forums at maemo.org |
| 18:22.26 | GI_Jack | the n900 has an unlocked bootloader, and none of them are carrier branded or locked |
| 18:24.50 | Saif | so why cant I make calls. if its not locked why is it saying like cellular network not availabe. I will go with this page http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware and flash it. |
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| 18:27.04 | Saif | little help need to choose correct bin file. |
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| 18:32.17 | Saif | I am downloading latest vanilla 10.2010.13-2 ~250mb and latest maemo 5 release for n900 ~190. tell me if I am doing wrong. |
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| 18:42.02 | GI_Jack | saif most of them are marked by reigon, download the one for you, |
| 18:42.08 | GI_Jack | should be a FIASCO image |
| 18:42.19 | GI_Jack | and follow the wiki on flashing on wiki.maemo.org |
| 18:44.07 | GI_Jack | http://wiki.maemo.org/Flashing |
| 18:44.07 | Saif | thanks but i am already following that guide. bit worried bcoz am using win7 64. |
| 18:44.46 | sixwheeledbeast^ | if it fails use a ubuntu or debian VM. |
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| 19:06.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~pr131 |
| 19:06.18 | infobot | i heard combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 19:06.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | lockcode should be 12345 if not changed from default |
| 19:07.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | doing a full flash will NOT reset lockcode afaik |
| 19:07.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~lockcode |
| 19:07.35 | infobot | i heard lockcode is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=524522#post524522 |
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| 20:12.25 | sixwheeledbeast^ | mmm I didn't know that, what format must the date be in |
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| 20:18.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ohnoes |
| 20:18.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-06-13 22:15:52] [Notify] ibot went offline (irc.freenode.net). |
| 20:18.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw EDST |
| 20:18.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc |
| 20:18.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | US anyway |
| 20:18.22 | Saif | another silly quetion. You mean debian vm as a virtual machine running linux os right? If thats thecase Ive got virtual box and ubuntu image on my harddisk. will that be enough. |
| 20:18.22 | sixwheeledbeast^ | yes |
| 20:18.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
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| 20:18.22 | sixwheeledbeast^ | snap |
| 20:18.22 | Saif | saved some time.. haha |
| 20:19.21 | nox- | sixwheeledbeast^, date is a command, tells the current time by default |
| 20:19.22 | Saif | by the way Ive got slackware as dual boot in my PC, but I wont use it, because I am afraid of it.. :) |
| 20:21.44 | sixwheeledbeast^ | is it 32bit ubuntu? |
| 20:22.40 | Saif | its 12.04 amd64 |
| 20:23.59 | sixwheeledbeast^ | ok you will have to install the flasher with --force-arch. I also seem to have trouble flashing emmc's on my amd64 |
| 20:25.07 | Saif | again trouble with 64.. no place for a noob in this world. |
| 20:26.31 | sixwheeledbeast^ | <sixwheeledbeast^: well it is from 2009> |
| 20:27.25 | sixwheeledbeast^ | it worked on the latest win/mac/debian 32when released |
| 20:34.52 | Saif | Choices are, I got a wary puppy 5.22 iso and a windows xp sp3 iso. |
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| 20:54.52 | sixwheeledbeast^ | infobot: botsnack |
| 20:54.52 | infobot | :), sixwheeledbeast^ |
| 21:11.51 | sixwheeledbeast^ | ~moo |
| 21:11.51 | infobot | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 21:29.27 | sixwheeledbeast^ | infobot? o/ |
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| 21:44.08 | xavinux | Hi people, can someone tell me how can I contribute with the wazapp project please? |
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| 23:02.46 | freemangordon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opU1urLhw50 |
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| 23:03.14 | freemangordon | cheers :) |
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| 23:09.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~cheers |
| 23:09.31 | infobot | happy christmahanakwanzakuh! |
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| 23:11.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | apt-get moo -- AWESOME |
| 23:11.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | (works even on N900) |
| 23:12.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo moo |
| 23:12.30 | infobot | moo -- created by mgeary <n=mgeary@166.70.44.49> at Fri Sep 28 15:18:07 2007 (2085 days); last modified at Thu Apr 18 20:21:06 2013 by cirdan!~chris@c-68-45-49-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net; it has been requested 274 times, last by sixwheeledbeast^, 2h 39s ago. |
| 23:13.00 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: you don't need the "-- AWESOME" part |
| 23:13.07 | freemangordon | on n900 at least |
| 23:13.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
| 23:13.36 | sixwheeledbeast^ | do you mind some people are trying to sleep :P |
| 23:13.46 | freemangordon | yep |
| 23:13.52 | freemangordon | no sleep for them :P |
| 23:14.10 | freemangordon | if I am AWAKE... :D |
| 23:14.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | BUUUG |
| 23:14.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | apt-get -qq moo |
| 23:15.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | expected: no output |
| 23:15.18 | freemangordon | I really hate that sully has lost his voice just before the concert here :( |
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| 23:16.37 | xavinux | Hi people which is the better way to program apps for N9 with python, PyQt or PySide? |
| 23:17.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmmm |
| 23:17.06 | freemangordon | xavinux: it makes no difference, all of them will be buggy |
| 23:17.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehehe |
| 23:17.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | /topic |
| 23:17.36 | freemangordon | xavinux: but well, just in case, ask on #harmattan |
| 23:18.15 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: well, a couple of jacks :D |
| 23:18.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | not that we hate N9 here, it's just... they know better over there |
| 23:18.17 | xavinux | ok thank you |
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| 23:19.18 | GI_Jack | anyone else psyched fore the jolla mobile phone? |
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| 23:19.31 | GI_Jack | or do you think they won't ship or something |
| 23:19.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | depends on your definition of psyche |
| 23:20.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm sure they will ship |
| 23:20.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | just when |
| 23:20.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | and what |
| 23:20.15 | GI_Jack | after the n950 seeing is believing |
| 23:20.19 | GI_Jack | well |
| 23:20.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | is not really defined yet |
| 23:20.26 | GI_Jack | do you think we'll see one by year's end |
| 23:20.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | hardly |
| 23:20.58 | GI_Jack | they got something on gsmarena |
| 23:21.00 | GI_Jack | http://www.gsmarena.com/jolla_jolla-5457.php |
| 23:21.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | I mean: the said they want to ship end of year |
| 23:21.34 | freemangordon | GI_Jack: what about n950? |
| 23:21.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | you don't think they step out of their way regarding that age old tradition to never keep schedules |
| 23:21.47 | GI_Jack | freemangordon, there isn't one in my pocket, thats what |
| 23:21.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's so popular in whole industry |
| 23:21.53 | freemangordon | you reaaly think this is the cherry on the top? |
| 23:22.39 | freemangordon | GI_Jack: well, I have at least one, trust me, n900 goes circles around it :) |
| 23:22.57 | GI_Jack | wat? |
| 23:23.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | SHHHH! I eventually wanna sell mine! |
| 23:23.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | fool |
| 23:23.30 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: oh, sorry |
| 23:23.38 | GI_Jack | the n900 is great except for two things 1) its a fucking brick 2) the software and hardware is starting to get dated to the point interoperbility is starting to lag |
| 23:23.43 | freemangordon | toldya, I am a little drunk :P |
| 23:24.16 | GI_Jack | kernel 2.6.28 is starting to get old, so is OpenSSL 0.9.8 whatever ver of gecko shipped with firefox 3.5 |
| 23:24.22 | GI_Jack | glibc 2.5 |
| 23:24.47 | freemangordon | GI_Jack: n950 is the next best thing after the sliced bread, DocScrutinizer05 has one to sale for 2000 EUR |
| 23:24.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | guess what's happening to kernel of N950 ;-P |
| 23:25.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, but only tonight |
| 23:25.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | tomorrow I will sell it for 2500 |
| 23:25.22 | GI_Jack | the 600 mhz single core cannot handle flash 10, versions of fennec past 8, or any replacements for flash |
| 23:25.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | orly? |
| 23:25.41 | freemangordon | GI_Jack: you sure? |
| 23:25.44 | GI_Jack | yes |
| 23:25.48 | freemangordon | cool |
| 23:25.55 | GI_Jack | there is a working compile for flash 10.1 for the n900 |
| 23:25.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | hand me some jack! |
| 23:26.11 | GI_Jack | it installs, and it runs, albiet too slow to use |
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| 23:26.17 | freemangordon | gives DocScrutinizer05 a bootle of Jack |
| 23:26.25 | freemangordon | bottle even :D |
| 23:26.38 | GI_Jack | fennic version 8 runs, but past that is too slow to really use |
| 23:26.54 | GI_Jack | I wonder if someone could port kernel 3.4 |
| 23:26.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | fennic? dashite |
| 23:27.17 | GI_Jack | yeah, what else are you gonna run, try making a modern version of microb? |
| 23:27.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | fennec been slower than even plain FF on maemo 3 years ago |
| 23:27.46 | GI_Jack | whats going to run html5 on the n900 |
| 23:27.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | for me microB is modern enough |
| 23:28.04 | GI_Jack | for now, it doesn't do html5 |
| 23:28.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | no c'mon decide - html5 OR flash17 |
| 23:28.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | now even |
| 23:28.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | I heard opera still runs fine |
| 23:29.02 | GI_Jack | modern version |
| 23:29.03 | GI_Jack | ?? |
| 23:29.17 | freemangordon | GI_Jack: yeah, make up your mind, HTML5 or flash |
| 23:29.25 | GI_Jack | both |
| 23:29.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | and you maybe should test freemangordon's zumbified version of microB |
| 23:29.33 | freemangordon | GI_Jack: BTW ever heard of embedlite? |
| 23:29.36 | GI_Jack | no |
| 23:29.42 | GI_Jack | I'd rather have html5 if I had to pick |
| 23:29.42 | freemangordon | google of it |
| 23:29.52 | freemangordon | IPCLite is the other name |
| 23:30.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: you know dat factoid? |
| 23:30.11 | freemangordon | ~cssu-thumb |
| 23:30.11 | infobot | methinks cssu-thumb is <DocScrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597 |
| 23:30.21 | freemangordon | :P |
| 23:31.09 | freemangordon | GI_Jack: I have n950, gave it to my GF and still using n900. Guess why |
| 23:31.26 | freemangordon | (besides the fact I love my GF) |
| 23:31.46 | rikanee | freemangordon: any complaints from her wrt the hwkb bug? |
| 23:31.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | who wants to pet gorillas the whole day long? ;-P |
| 23:32.04 | freemangordon | rikanee: yep |
| 23:32.29 | freemangordon | and I flashed pr1.3 hoping the bug is resolved |
| 23:32.39 | freemangordon | no difference |
| 23:33.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | hwkbd bug? |
| 23:33.18 | freemangordon | rikanee: I guess you mean the bug when you have the second letter un uppercase, ain't? |
| 23:33.24 | freemangordon | *in |
| 23:33.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | glares at his n950 |
| 23:33.30 | rikanee | freemangordon: yep |
| 23:33.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL |
| 23:34.03 | GI_Jack | how do I switch from CSSU stable to CSSU thumb? |
| 23:34.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | HAH :-D |
| 23:34.23 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: if you type too fast (for the device), you have auto-cap acting not only on the first letter, but on the second and eve on the third |
| 23:34.25 | GI_Jack | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.30 | freemangordon | yep |
| 23:34.47 | freemangordon | GI_Jack: it is as simple as following the instructions |
| 23:35.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: ok, no bother. I don't use fancy shit like auto-capitals |
| 23:36.08 | GI_Jack | gonna try thumb |
| 23:36.11 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: well, I guess you dont use your n950 too much |
| 23:36.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | was the 1. Thing i switched off |
| 23:36.28 | GI_Jack | the best parts of the n900 came from the community some only after its been somewhat obsolete |
| 23:36.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 23:36.32 | freemangordon | otherwise you'll see that VKB is more usefull that HWKB |
| 23:36.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | blows off the dust |
| 23:36.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | eeeew |
| 23:36.53 | freemangordon | HWKB on n950 has nothing to do with the one on n900 |
| 23:37.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, true DAT |
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| 23:37.09 | freemangordon | not that it is bat, it is just too big |
| 23:37.14 | freemangordon | *bad |
| 23:37.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | n950 kbd is amont the ... two worst kbds I ever got my claws on |
| 23:37.39 | freemangordon | or maybe one just need to be used to it, don;t know |
| 23:37.51 | freemangordon | *needs |
| 23:38.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, it's a epic failure in ME |
| 23:38.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | only kbd of eten glofiish M800 is worse |
| 23:39.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | you have zilch feedback where the keys are |
| 23:39.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | since all is flush in one plane |
| 23:39.14 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: could be, my first device with full qwery is n900, so I am spoiled |
| 23:39.24 | freemangordon | shit |
| 23:39.27 | freemangordon | QWERTY |
| 23:39.33 | freemangordon | much better :D |
| 23:39.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, the m800 had not even gaps between the keys |
| 23:40.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | but that's only marginally worse than n950 |
| 23:40.55 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: well, maybe if one use it for some time..., who knows |
| 23:41.24 | freemangordon | though I needed 1 day to feel comfortable on n900's KB |
| 23:41.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | we had looong debates which kbd is better, n810 or n900. But there never been a debate about n950, it's plain crap |
| 23:41.44 | freemangordon | yeah :( |
| 23:42.29 | rikanee | the N900 keyboard felt perfect for my gorilla hands, imo. |
| 23:42.42 | robbiethe1st | I like the N900 KB |
| 23:42.46 | freemangordon | rikanee: what? |
| 23:42.50 | rikanee | just took some adjustment to get used to BlueArrow, but I could type pretty quickly on it. |
| 23:42.59 | freemangordon | aah, sorry |
| 23:42.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | not to talk about hw kbd integration into HARM, I guess that hasn't really changed a lot since very first firmware. And why should it, since... nobody has a n950 |
| 23:44.22 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: I bet that if something works with HWKB it is by chance |
| 23:44.23 | rikanee | freemangordon: I was able to get a feel for the N900's HWKB pretty easily, but getting used to reach out to Blue Arrow was a bit hard |
| 23:44.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 23:44.23 | freemangordon | rikanee: I just misread what you said |
| 23:44.25 | rikanee | freemangordon: aah. |
| 23:44.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | I found the n810 kbd harder to handle in *that+ regard |
| 23:44.53 | freemangordon | already said he is a little drunk :) |
| 23:45.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | shhhh, don't give it away |