| 00:05.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, we check with each other each day |
| 00:05.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | I know about woody's karma work |
| 00:06.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | and yes, it's faintly midgard related as well, but absolutely not user/group permissions related |
| 00:07.49 | Win7Mac | mmhhh |
| 00:15.35 | Win7Mac | my best shot would be to establish new user group and try to re-link that to garage. or would that be overkill again? |
| 00:25.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | again, I have no idea how that special custom made usergroup gets implemented in midgard |
| 00:26.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | definitely NOT via midgard admin GUI |
| 00:26.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | but maybe you gave me another funny idea |
| 00:27.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | I could replace /etc/passwd and /etc/groups with files that don't have 60k users in them. This might the midgard admin page to open for editing the group |
| 00:28.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/might the/might allow the/ |
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| 00:30.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | YUCK |
| 00:30.22 | Win7Mac | well, how can it be done at all, if NOT via midgard admin GUI? |
| 00:30.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | might make maemo.org explode into my face |
| 00:31.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | as mentioned above, Eero did it via direct mySQL command to tweak the midgard database |
| 00:32.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | nobody on this planet except him and maybe max half a dozen other Nemein employees has the knowledge to do so |
| 00:33.21 | Win7Mac | that really sucks |
| 00:33.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 00:34.20 | Win7Mac | and there is no pre-migration backup? |
| 00:38.18 | Win7Mac | oh, just hit "report this"... button or mouse-over is not there, but link seems to work |
| 00:38.47 | Win7Mac | * here: http://maemo.org/community/maemo-developers/http---maemo-org-community-maemo-developers_defect/ |
| 00:50.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | scrap that idea regarding /etc/passwd, been based on false assumptions |
| 00:51.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | users get *imported* from garage - means they are in midgard db already |
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| 22:37.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+status |
| 22:37.20 | infobot | Since Sun Jun 2 22:36:29 2013, there have been 0 modifications, 0 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands. I have been awake for 51s this session, and currently reference 119066 factoids. I'm using about 18320 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1.62/0.1 child 0/0 |
| 22:37.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | 119k sorry |
| 22:38.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | and no, such list doesn't exist |
| 22:38.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys factoid |
| 22:39.12 | Win7Mac | LOL factoid war... |
| 22:39.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | hm? |
| 22:39.33 | Win7Mac | ^^ |
| 22:40.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+help listkeys |
| 22:40.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | REGEX??? :-o |
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| 22:40.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys fa..oid |
| 22:41.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys fa.*oid |
| 22:41.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys fa*oid |
| 22:41.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | rather shell patterns |
| 22:41.51 | Win7Mac | ...just to impress the guys in the #worpress channel ;-) This is so poor in relation: http://codex.wordpress.org/IRC/wp-doc-bot |
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| 23:06.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~inapparopriate factoid foobar |
| 23:06.37 | infobot | YOU GOT THE WRONG FACTOID, foobar |
| 23:07.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | *yawn* |
| 23:07.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~dice 15d8 |
| 23:09.38 | Win7Mac | #wordpress-bot would be jealous, if she read all this ;-) |
| 23:17.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki wordpress |
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| 23:17.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~spell wordpress |
| 23:18.18 | nox- | haha |
| 23:18.41 | Win7Mac | I see you prefer midgard ;-) |
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| 23:19.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | I prefer assembler |
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| 23:22.34 | Win7Mac | [00:34] <doc-bot> Win7Mac: WordPress 3.5 has been downloaded 21,814,719 times |
| 23:24.44 | Win7Mac | the good thing about next release 3.6 (~in 4 weeks) is, it will have Audio/Video support in Core: http://make.wordpress.org/core/2013/04/08/audio-video-support-in-core/ |
| 23:24.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | one of them been to my box, where my sysop installed that crap for his wife, and then I had the hassle with the vulnerabilities since he didn't maintain and update it (if that was even a possibility) |
| 23:25.26 | GeneralAntilles | WordPress is a big ole security hole. |
| 23:25.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 23:25.41 | GeneralAntilles | Given their install base, it's no surprise, though. |
| 23:25.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | I cured it with fire, err radical apt meant |
| 23:26.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/meant/means/ |
| 23:26.30 | GeneralAntilles | Listening to bergie rant about it is entertaining. |
| 23:27.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | I bet it is |
| 23:27.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonders if bergie would find it interesting to hear DocScrutinizer05 rant about midgard ;-P |
| 23:27.44 | Win7Mac | who would have interest in hacking my site besides guys like you :p |
| 23:27.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | HAH! |
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| 23:28.36 | Win7Mac | i have one IP trying to register but he fails since weeks |
| 23:28.56 | Win7Mac | there's plugins for that |
| 23:29.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | every script kiddie entry level bot kit nowadays comes with a "conquer the world by automatically owning all WP boxen you can get hold of" |
| 23:30.22 | Win7Mac | you're telling that ~22 million sites/admins are at risk? |
| 23:31.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | no. Probably 21.5 mio are already owned and thus safe from further attacks ;-P |
| 23:31.37 | Win7Mac | ROTFL... why? |
| 23:32.05 | Win7Mac | theres plugins for that and no _major_ complaints so far |
| 23:32.08 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, what blade enclosure are we using, by the way? |
| 23:32.20 | Win7Mac | besides weak PWs |
| 23:32.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | because those crackers are actually pretty good to defend their booty against other blackhats |
| 23:32.37 | GeneralAntilles | WordPress's problem is that you have to update it regularly to keep it secure. |
| 23:32.42 | GeneralAntilles | It's fine if it's updated regularly. |
| 23:33.17 | Win7Mac | it is, though 3.6 is over-due |
| 23:34.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: http://www.supermicro.nl/products/system/2u/2027/SYS-2027TR-HTRF.cfm?parts=SHOW |
| 23:34.52 | GeneralAntilles | Currently 2/4 filled? |
| 23:35.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | all 4 filled |
| 23:35.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | but only 2 sockets populated, on 2 bladed each 1 |
| 23:36.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | so we have two blades with one CPU and 2 with 0 CPU |
| 23:36.10 | GeneralAntilles | Ahhh, OK. |
| 23:36.27 | GeneralAntilles | Each blade is dual socket? |
| 23:36.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 23:36.42 | nox- | whats the point of a blade w/o cpu? |
| 23:36.50 | GeneralAntilles | Room for expansion? |
| 23:36.59 | nox- | well ok... |
| 23:37.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | spae parts ;-P |
| 23:37.22 | GeneralAntilles | Better answer |
| 23:37.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | spare even |
| 23:37.26 | nox- | ok :) |
| 23:37.38 | GeneralAntilles | Since buying the empty boards ahead seems wasteful. |
| 23:38.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | you might need them for thermal concept of enclosure |
| 23:38.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno |
| 23:38.25 | GeneralAntilles | Random interest for the room: Vision for maemo.org in 1 year? 5 years? |
| 23:38.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | 1 year: much like now |
| 23:39.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | 5 yeras: almost forgotten |
| 23:39.40 | Win7Mac | and that out of your kb... |
| 23:40.28 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, Jolla doesn't seem inclined towards managing a user/dev community for itself. |
| 23:40.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | like this one: http://apt.rikers.org/%23openmoko/ |
| 23:40.54 | GeneralAntilles | I wonder if maemo.org might act as an Internet Tablet Talk for modern open source mobile platforms. |
| 23:41.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | we started that motion last week iirc |
| 23:41.22 | GeneralAntilles | (obviously that growth would have to be largely organic) |
| 23:41.30 | Win7Mac | LOL.. |
| 23:41.48 | GeneralAntilles | That does not require any particularly agreement or cooperation from Jolla. |
| 23:42.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | seem some Ryan Abel guy in MWKN wrote about new forums in tmo |
| 23:42.11 | GeneralAntilles | Reggie's always been very much JFDI with his web forum endeavors. |
| 23:42.20 | GeneralAntilles | That guy. |
| 23:43.06 | Win7Mac | GA, +1 on jolla. we'll see! |
| 23:43.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wtf jfdi |
| 23:43.15 | GeneralAntilles | Just Fucking Do It |
| 23:43.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jfdi |
| 23:43.21 | Win7Mac | Ge... ;-9 |
| 23:43.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jfdi is Just Fucking Do It |
| 23:43.28 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: please, watch your language. |
| 23:43.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | you bitch!! |
| 23:43.41 | GeneralAntilles | ~$50 |
| 23:43.45 | GeneralAntilles | ~50 |
| 23:43.45 | infobot | somebody said 50 was still quite common |
| 23:44.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jfdi is Just F*cking Do It |
| 23:44.11 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 23:44.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | >:-( |
| 23:44.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~useless |
| 23:44.22 | infobot | ACTION starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :( |
| 23:44.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~die |
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| 23:45.30 | Win7Mac | hey, relax, it's just a bot like you + me |
| 23:46.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+chanset #maemo |
| 23:46.02 | infobot | chan: #maemo (see _default also) |
| 23:46.02 | infobot | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:46.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+chanset _default |
| 23:46.11 | infobot | Default channel settings |
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| 23:46.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | profanity? |
| 23:47.41 | GeneralAntilles | Profane. |
| 23:47.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | insult =>1 |
| 23:48.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | but no profane=>0 |
| 23:48.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe 0 is default |
| 23:48.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | and somebody deleted profane=>1 |
| 23:48.59 | GeneralAntilles | Need to protect the chilrens |
| 23:49.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~rape herself |
| 23:49.16 | infobot | ACTION takes herself behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams |
| 23:49.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys 50 |
| 23:50.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq |
| 23:50.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys " 50" |
| 23:50.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys " 50*$" |
| 23:50.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys " $*50" |
| 23:51.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget actual monetary loss, or $500, whichever |
| 23:51.20 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot actual monetary loss, or $500, whichever |
| 23:52.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: anyway that reaching out to new communities is exactly what chem|st intended with the jolla/sailfish forums |
| 23:53.35 | GeneralAntilles | I like that approach |
| 23:53.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | and we even plan to offer a direct link talk.jolla.com - just like talk.maemo.org been in times of ITT |
| 23:53.41 | GeneralAntilles | Versus Rob's sekrit emails. |
| 23:53.59 | Win7Mac | GeneralAntilles: 1) clear, community-driven, light-weight HiFo. 2) get hold of everything maemo/meego-related code + rights from NOK. 3) accept + support jolla wherever we can - if they profit, community in general will profit. 4) have proper server-infra to handle additional repos for HARM + sailfish |
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| 23:54.34 | GeneralAntilles | What's the deal with the Harmattan infra and resources? |
| 23:54.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | 2) there's no such code, just binaries |
| 23:54.55 | GeneralAntilles | Code you're not going to make progress on. |
| 23:55.02 | GeneralAntilles | There's nobody left at Nokia who even knows what it is. |
| 23:55.05 | Win7Mac | binaries, whatever there is |
| 23:55.26 | GeneralAntilles | That horse has been kicked to death already. And yes, it blends. |
| 23:55.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | 4) sailfish isn't interested in maemo.org infra for their repos and stuff |
| 23:56.01 | GeneralAntilles | Random note: http://metawatch.com/ |
| 23:56.11 | GeneralAntilles | STRATA on sale for $129 for Father's Day. |
| 23:56.18 | GeneralAntilles | (it'll change your life) |
| 23:56.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | can it shut down maemo remotely? |
| 23:57.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise it won't, I'm afraid |
| 23:57.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-D |
| 23:57.51 | GeneralAntilles | Having notifications on your wrist is a surprisingly significant change |
| 23:57.59 | GeneralAntilles | also: a watch you never have to worry about setting again. |
| 23:58.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | I rarely ever get any notifications |
| 23:58.20 | GeneralAntilles | WELL THEN |
| 23:58.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | I could use a notification every now and then, about me being hungry |
| 23:59.02 | GeneralAntilles | You should set an alarm for that |
| 23:59.05 | GeneralAntilles | WHICH REMINDS ME |
| 23:59.44 | Win7Mac | hilarious |