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| 00:00.58 | Wizzup | freemangordon_: just tried with stable cssu; pulse still gives protocol errors on the other side |
| 00:01.13 | Wizzup | I think... |
| 00:01.18 | Wizzup | Well, off to bed first |
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| 01:15.04 | Wizzup | ah |
| 01:15.10 | Wizzup | I'm on testing even |
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| 04:14.04 | sombragris | hi there |
| 04:14.15 | sombragris | I have a question |
| 04:14.37 | sombragris | in my N900 i have and use 3 browsers |
| 04:14.53 | sombragris | MicroB, Macuco and Opera Mini |
| 04:15.04 | sombragris | my question is, |
| 04:15.21 | sombragris | which one uses less power? |
| 04:15.40 | sombragris | which one is best for the battery? |
| 04:15.56 | sombragris | thanks in advance |
| 04:16.10 | rikanee | sombragris: Opera Mini, although it's more of a mobile browser. |
| 04:16.31 | rikanee | MicroB would be the worst offender battery-wise, but it's a full-featured browser. |
| 04:17.03 | sombragris | rikanee: thanks! |
| 04:17.52 | sombragris | yeah, MicroB is them best. too bad its JS engine is SO slow |
| 04:18.03 | Sc0rpius | I think it depends |
| 04:18.11 | Sc0rpius | Opera Mini is great for faster browsing |
| 04:18.20 | Sc0rpius | Facebook in MicroB for example it's pretty bad in such a tiny screen |
| 04:18.24 | Sc0rpius | but it's great in Opera |
| 04:18.26 | sombragris | it chokes on the fb main site |
| 04:18.42 | Sc0rpius | MicroB? |
| 04:18.53 | Sc0rpius | MicroB chokes everywhere since it's pretty outdated now |
| 04:19.32 | sombragris | indeed |
| 04:19.57 | sombragris | are you scorpius of yappari fame ? |
| 04:20.14 | Sc0rpius | yeah as in Yappari's developer but I don't think I have any fame hehe |
| 04:20.34 | sombragris | lol |
| 04:20.56 | sombragris | you're the man! thanks for yappari! |
| 04:21.02 | Sc0rpius | I'm glad you like it :) |
| 04:22.52 | sombragris | it's great. I can get into the wa network. don't like it but people insist on using it |
| 04:23.18 | Sc0rpius | yeah I don't like it either, but it's like I have no choice. All my friends and family use it |
| 04:24.06 | Sc0rpius | I was really hoping for GTalk to become mainstream like that |
| 04:24.10 | Sc0rpius | but never happened. |
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| 04:26.23 | sombragris | sorry |
| 04:31.04 | sombragris | thanks for everything |
| 04:31.12 | sombragris | gotta go now |
| 04:31.16 | sombragris | bye! |
| 04:31.21 | Sc0rpius | bye have fun |
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| 06:45.50 | reenignEesreveR | is it possible to stable install fcam-drivers on PowerKernel? |
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| 10:31.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | reenignEesreveR: I'm sure there is a version of drivers that works with at least 50,51-PK dunno if Pali builds them and if KP52 already has them |
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| 11:13.55 | vi__ | How the F* does the windows file system work? |
| 11:14.22 | vi__ | The whole notion of disks having their own paths does not compute. |
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| 11:24.17 | merlin1991 | vi__: hehehehee |
| 11:28.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: drive letters *dunkandcover,run* |
| 11:37.09 | r00t^home | nt does support mountpoints too... |
| 11:38.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | no surprise. I'd be more surprised if windows would support anything like mounting at all |
| 11:39.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | luckily I never had to find out |
| 11:39.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | I once had to figure how to create a link to a dir. That been sufficiently unpleasant an adventure |
| 11:40.45 | r00t^home | what windows does not support is relocating /home to another disk, that's fun... |
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| 11:49.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess that's what %HOMEDIR% (or sth like that) is for |
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| 11:50.38 | chem|st | r00t^home: it does... |
| 11:51.23 | chem|st | r00t^home: I used to have windows homedir and linux homedir set to the same folder |
| 11:52.00 | r00t^home | you can't move the directory when a user is logged in, and can't move it without being logged in... fun like that |
| 11:52.19 | chem|st | r00t^home: lol you are talking BS |
| 11:52.45 | chem|st | r00t^home: copy your home dir to the place you want to use |
| 11:52.53 | r00t^home | well, all my attempts failed when i tried... feel free to point me to the documentation of the procedure for next time |
| 11:53.12 | chem|st | r00t^home: rightclick the home icon on desktop, settings move it... |
| 11:53.13 | r00t^home | you can not copy your homedir while logged in, because files are locked |
| 11:53.31 | chem|st | r00t^home: you cannot MOVE it! |
| 11:53.44 | chem|st | and all locked files arent needed afaik |
| 11:53.50 | r00t^home | you can not copy it either, because the files have exclusive locked by windows |
| 11:53.56 | r00t^home | the file that contains all your settings, right |
| 11:54.05 | chem|st | r00t^home: those files are for sessions |
| 11:54.30 | chem|st | r00t^home: I have here a button to even "move" my homedir... |
| 11:54.36 | chem|st | note: a button |
| 11:54.52 | r00t^home | well, point me to the documentation on relocating "Documents and Setting" and i'll try next time |
| 11:55.01 | chem|st | you have to use the desktop icon |
| 11:55.21 | chem|st | ah dokuments and settings isnt homdir |
| 11:55.25 | chem|st | thath is appdata |
| 11:55.33 | r00t^home | since when? windows 8? |
| 11:56.04 | chem|st | $APPDATA$ and $HOMEDIR$ are different folders... |
| 11:56.51 | r00t^home | the point is: you just installed a shiny new large hd into a windows user's computer... and have to tell them that they now have to save their files on d: |
| 11:56.54 | chem|st | r00t^home: for changing appdata you need to alter registry |
| 11:57.10 | r00t^home | (besides fun stuff like you can't keep the homedirs across a reinstall) |
| 11:57.52 | chem|st | r00t^home: OMG I did all that what you try, several times... |
| 11:58.07 | r00t^home | i stopped counting how often i tried |
| 11:58.17 | r00t^home | as i said, feel free to point me to the documentation |
| 11:58.41 | chem|st | I tried once... |
| 11:59.05 | chem|st | every new install I just alter the windows pointers and reboot... |
| 11:59.18 | chem|st | what is it? 7? xp? |
| 12:01.13 | r00t^home | xp most of the time |
| 12:04.36 | chem|st | did you copy the folder to the new place? |
| 12:06.02 | chem|st | do you want to move all users or only some? |
| 12:07.05 | chem|st | for single users you just login and do what I said with the desktop icon (there is a move it somewhere else button) |
| 12:07.47 | chem|st | to move the whole folderstructure you need to change the registry entries for them |
| 12:09.44 | chem|st | win7 supports folderlinks... I don't know if xp does that |
| 12:13.26 | chem|st | r00t^home: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=236621 |
| 12:14.29 | chem|st | somewhere after "unattend" |
| 12:16.01 | r00t^home | "To specify a different folder for the "Documents and Settings" folder during installation," |
| 12:16.15 | r00t^home | did you miss the "during installation" part? |
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| 12:18.14 | r00t^home | "In Registry Editor, click Find on the Edit menu. |
| 12:18.14 | r00t^home | Type documents and settings, and then click Find." |
| 12:18.19 | r00t^home | i lol'd |
| 12:18.51 | chem|st | r00t^home: I said after the unattended part... |
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| 12:20.05 | chem|st | this is the microsoft way... we lol'ed at those procedings msca class as the lector was also unaware that there are, faster and mor intuitive ways of handling things he thought |
| 12:21.14 | chem|st | to much windows talk here already... I am out |
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| 12:24.44 | entitled | So, I've done it. Used (wet) sandpaper to get rid of few deep scratches and one burn from cigarette from my N900 display. |
| 12:25.38 | entitled | 1000-1200-1500-2000-2500-3000 grit and tamiya polishing compound (fine). |
| 12:26.55 | entitled | the display isn't cloudly at all when used in normal conditions, but if I shine light on it, it shows. Maybe by some extra fine tamiya. |
| 12:27.56 | sixwheeledbeast | what's the finish like? |
| 12:28.16 | entitled | The digitizer works as good as ever, and no longer the stylus gets stuck on scratches or the cigaretter burn |
| 12:29.00 | entitled | there's a little bit more resistance tho, but too noticeable. |
| 12:30.18 | entitled | in direct sunlight I can see very light cloudiness, but I think I'll get rid of it with some more 3000 sandpaper (or higher :D) or finer polishing compounf |
| 12:30.56 | entitled | I think I need somekind of conditioner to give a protecting film for the display that I sanded away. |
| 12:32.13 | entitled | If anyone has suggestions for that I'll give it a go. |
| 12:33.31 | entitled | oil of some sort? |
| 12:36.04 | entitled | I thought the 3000 grittiness was overkill, but the display was bit cloudy evden after that. Not sure if I gave it a go enough long, but the Tamiya ("fine") got rid of it. |
| 12:37.15 | entitled | Too bad I broke the usb just before I was about to open this baby up and polish the display :E |
| 12:38.34 | entitled | it didn't move much but I tried soldering the side where the ground leg was off, but that didn't help. Must be broken under the connector |
| 12:39.48 | sixwheeledbeast | use a screen protector? |
| 12:40.13 | entitled | hmm, could work |
| 12:40.24 | entitled | Tho I'd like a more permanent solution |
| 12:40.55 | entitled | If I can't find a small enough replacement that still leaves space for the soldering (with flux it should be still doable as long as the tip fits there) |
| 12:42.00 | entitled | then I'll do a custom female connector, that connects to male counterpart that in turn is connected to usb |
| 12:49.25 | r00t^home | i'm halfway through the powermat mod on mine |
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| 14:10.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((<chem|st> win7 supports folderlinks... I don't know if xp does that)) yes, with a tool you need to fetch from internet |
| 14:11.26 | merlin1991 | or you can mount ntfs volumes under a path |
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| 14:14.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | entitled: I suggest carnauba wax (car polsih) |
| 14:14.14 | Apic | Can anybody point me to the subjective best Howto for USB-Host-Mode? |
| 14:14.23 | Apic | s/ve/vely/ |
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| 14:17.11 | Apic | (On N900) |
| 14:20.36 | vi__ | entitled: You may want to consider some jewellers rouge. |
| 14:20.56 | vi__ | entitled: Start with 8000 grit. |
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| 14:22.39 | vi__ | Also, consider a 'zagg invisible shield'. It is expensive but by far the best screen protector I have used. |
| 14:26.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | Apic: howto? |
| 14:26.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | Apic: get h-e-n package |
| 14:27.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~hen |
| 14:27.05 | infobot | i guess hen is hostmode-easy-now, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65232 |
| 14:27.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~hostmode |
| 14:27.26 | infobot | somebody said hostmode was http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=652330 |
| 14:27.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~hostmode-powered |
| 14:27.40 | infobot | hostmode-powered is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=921203#post921203 |
| 14:27.43 | Apic | Thanks! |
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| 14:31.39 | Apic | Can I use a Hub too? |
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| 14:39.55 | peetah | I messed up with some packages that does not seem to be present in any repository: hildon-im-keyboard-assistant, initrd-progs, libtopos0, osso-abook-home-applet, osso-addressbook and sysinfo-tool |
| 14:40.23 | peetah | can someone point me to a place where I could download them , thanks |
| 14:40.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | Apic: yes |
| 14:40.57 | Apic | Thanks! |
| 14:45.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNF7yajM3Lo |
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| 14:50.27 | merlin1991 | peetah: those should be in the ssu repos (nokia) |
| 14:53.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | Apic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg1oU2nLwu0 |
| 14:54.06 | peetah | merlin1991: is it still accessible ? |
| 14:54.30 | Apic | tnx |
| 14:55.23 | merlin1991 | peetah: yep |
| 14:55.32 | merlin1991 | a simple apt-get install --reinstall should refetch them |
| 14:55.58 | merlin1991 | just enable the nokia repo in ham if you disabled it |
| 14:56.04 | peetah | then I may have disabled it ... let me check HAM config |
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| 14:59.00 | peetah | merlin1991: yep that was it, thanks ! |
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| 15:01.03 | Apic | yay, works with my Gamepad \o/ |
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| 15:03.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | Apic: here you are - sorry took some tine to find my fav video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkCDyUO0sKQ |
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| 15:06.39 | Apic | Nice! |
| 15:13.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~hostmode is also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkCDyUO0sKQ |
| 15:13.08 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 15:13.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal hen |
| 15:13.31 | infobot | "hen" is "hostmode-easy-now, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65232" |
| 15:14.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~hen is also see ~hostmode |
| 15:14.03 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 15:14.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal hostmode |
| 15:14.24 | infobot | "hostmode" is "http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=652330, or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkCDyUO0sKQ" |
| 15:14.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~hostmode is alsi see ~hostmode-pwered |
| 15:14.39 | infobot | ...but hostmode is already something else... |
| 15:14.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~hostmode is also see ~hostmode-powered |
| 15:14.55 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 15:15.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~hostmode |
| 15:15.16 | infobot | rumour has it, hostmode is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=652330, or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkCDyUO0sKQ, or see ~hostmode-powered |
| 15:15.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | the day infobot dies we're all screwed :-o |
| 15:16.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | Apic: thanks for using h-e-n/hostmode |
| 15:16.48 | Apic | yw |
| 15:17.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm ahppy about every single user that makes me feel like I didn't wast that 9 months |
| 15:17.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | waste even |
| 15:18.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | I probably would've done it anyway, just because Nokia claimed it can't get done ;-P |
| 15:18.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | but sure it's way nicer to know that h-e-n is actually useful for some folks out there |
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| 15:21.21 | trx | DocScrutinizer05 i use it all the time on field with a lan network adapter |
| 15:21.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | Apic: using a hub you even save the frequent enum, since the hub *can* detect plug events, unlike the raped musb-controller in N900 |
| 15:21.38 | Apic | k |
| 15:21.46 | trx | time *not* waisted for sure :) |
| 15:21.58 | Apic | B-) |
| 15:22.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | and you can inject power at least for the peripherals with a powered hub |
| 15:22.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | the N900 cna deliver only 200mA |
| 15:22.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | while evry single peripheral may want as much as 500 |
| 15:22.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | trx: thanks :-D |
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| 15:24.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | It just occured to me while watching those YT vids that probably the mouse-cursor program should get linked by a udev rule |
| 15:24.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | so it gets executed automatically on enumerating a mouse |
| 15:24.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | and on unplugging the mouse |
| 15:25.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | (though that could get difficult, since... musb-controller not detecting plug and unplug events) |
| 15:25.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | with a hub however both would just work, and with plain adapter-based hostmode it would still at least detect the mouse on manual enum |
| 15:26.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | funny detail: I never really used hostmode, except in tests |
| 15:29.21 | trx | :) |
| 15:30.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe a good thing, since it made me think "what will users need" instead of the usual "what do *I* need" |
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| 15:31.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | a lot of those "it does what I needed" programs are crap |
| 15:32.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | Apic: could you do me a favor? |
| 15:32.24 | Apic | Maube. |
| 15:32.26 | Apic | s/u/y/ |
| 15:32.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | check something on your device with h-e-n installed? |
| 15:32.44 | Apic | k |
| 15:33.03 | Apic | How? What? |
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| 15:33.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | wc -l /usr/sbin/booston |
| 15:34.50 | Apic | 110 |
| 15:34.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) thanks |
| 15:35.00 | Apic | yw |
| 15:35.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | though here it's 121 |
| 15:35.28 | Apic | ic |
| 15:36.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably some local obsolete version. the one I publish on maemo.cloud-7.de has 110 as well, and that one *should* be the right one |
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| 15:38.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | you know you could add some arbitrary indicator LED pattern to show hostmode (well, vboost) is running? |
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| 15:39.57 | Apic | Didn't think of it before You said. B-) |
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| 15:43.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | look at first 3 lines in /usr/sbin/booston |
| 15:44.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | edit /etc/mce/mce.ini - the sed command in booston just does half the job, you also need to add a line with the actual PatternVboost definition |
| 15:45.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can duplicate another pattern line, change the name to PatternVboost, then use indicator LED pattern editor (app) to change the pattern/color to whatever you like |
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| 17:10.01 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet |
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| 18:31.43 | spade` | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.28 | spade` | 1989 user 50736 S /usr/bin/modest |
| 18:32.41 | spade` | why 2 modest on my n900 |
| 18:33.09 | spade` | :| |
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| 18:48.18 | ecc3g | one is probably a coarse thread of the other (the 1989 process's PID is probably 1988). |
| 18:49.37 | ecc3g | s/PID/PPID/ |
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| 19:01.46 | fastlane`` | how can i kill modest |
| 19:01.50 | fastlane`` | cuz it wont let me |
| 19:01.53 | fastlane`` | i dont use it |
| 19:02.01 | fastlane`` | modest is the default email client right? |
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| 19:18.49 | Woody14619 | modest, like many things, respanws and stays in the background so it's ready when needed (like browser, rt-com, calendar, etc). There's a way to config those so they don't auto-load or respawn, but I don't recall how to do so.... google the wiki, it's in there. :) |
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| 20:24.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | somebody (freemangodon, vi_ ?) in this channel investigated how to completely kill it |
| 20:24.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's not exactly simple |
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| 20:26.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | start with sed -i s/X-Maemo-Prestarted=always/X-Maemo-Prestarted=never/ /usr/share/applications/hildon/modest.desktop |
| 20:27.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, didn't notice [2013-05-29 21:52:49] <-- fastlane`` has left this server (Read error: Connection reset by peer). |
| 20:27.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* |
| 20:31.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | nevertheless, to complete it for the records: you also want to take care about alarmd events that get rescheduled and would start up modest again when expiring. so you a) make sure your modest update interval is >>the 30min or whatever you could set via GUI (use gconftool for that), and b) you want to remove any legacy alarmd scheduled event for modest from alarmd's event list which is persistent across reboots, use alarmclient for that |
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| 20:33.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | cna't recall if there been even more catches to modest-removal. Maybe chanlog search helps |
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| 20:37.34 | fastlane`` | i cudnt get in to #maemo |
| 20:37.34 | fastlane`` | what happened, got redirected to another channel |
| 20:37.46 | Sc0rpius | that's some netsplit protection |
| 20:37.56 | Sc0rpius | you're forwarded to an overflow channel |
| 20:37.57 | fastlane`` | ohk |
| 20:38.04 | fastlane`` | yea ,, that overflow channel |
| 20:38.10 | Sc0rpius | yeah I hate it too |
| 20:38.11 | Sc0rpius | :) |
| 20:38.17 | fastlane`` | :) |
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| 21:03.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | please elaborate with proper irc protocol on what happened. When I once set up the throttling, I used arbitrary made up values. Those might well need some tuning |
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| 21:10.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | I've been asked to start a mini fundraiser here, to ensure our "official backup server" |
| 21:10.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | so: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1347859#post1347859 |
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| 22:47.16 | raid__ | what's the difference between the BFS kernel and KernelPower? |
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| 22:50.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | the Brain Fuck Scheduler |
| 22:51.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | not recommended |
| 22:52.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | on fremantle the scheduler never been the bottleneck, so why mess with it? |
| 22:52.29 | Win7Mac | There is something strange about the Community-links in right menu on tmo. Mouse-over and resulting page not as ecpected it seems. |
| 22:52.58 | raid__ | DocScrutinizer05: thanks. so i guess i'll stick with kernelpower then |
| 22:53.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, I have classic light theme, no links on right side |
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| 22:54.36 | raid__ | i remember my emmc getting corrupted when i used kernelpower before |
| 22:55.01 | raid__ | not sure if it was the kernel, or using 'Mass Storage Mode' on a partially charged battery |
| 22:55.13 | raid__ | probably the ladder |
| 22:57.08 | Win7Mac | DocScruitinizer, check on regular browser |
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| 23:01.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | the theme is same no matter which browser |
| 23:02.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | raid__: KP shouldn't affect emmc |
| 23:02.23 | Win7Mac | ok, who do I have to contact tor such things? |
| 23:02.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st, maintainer of tmo |
| 23:03.32 | Win7Mac | chem|st: ^^^^ |
| 23:04.01 | raid__ | i've been trying to secure access to root, so i tried sudser and it gives me an error: "sudoers file: syntax error, line 25" "/etc/sudoers.d/everybody.sudoers changes break sudoers" |
| 23:04.13 | raid__ | it gives me that when installing kernel-power |
| 23:04.41 | raid__ | i think it's originating in dpkg |
| 23:04.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | sudser is bad |
| 23:05.10 | raid__ | i used to use rootsh, but it doesn't ask for a password to gain root |
| 23:05.11 | kerio | +1 |
| 23:05.24 | kerio | just make your file in sudoers.d |
| 23:05.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | sudser doesn't either |
| 23:05.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | see |
| 23:05.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 23:05.36 | infobot | jrtools is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
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| 23:05.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | on how to enable password |
| 23:05.47 | raid__ | i noticed...how do i secure root? |
| 23:05.53 | raid__ | oh thanks |
| 23:05.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw |
| 23:06.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | NB it's still not safe |
| 23:06.14 | kerio | your jrtools are also bad, they break `sudo gainroot` semantics |
| 23:06.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | but a lot better than without |
| 23:06.35 | kerio | namely, the fact that it doesn't ask for a password, and it doesn't work outside of rdmode |
| 23:06.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | eh? |
| 23:07.15 | kerio | in maemo fremantle, the above is true |
| 23:07.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure when I make sudo gainroot ask for password, then it breaks the semantics of not asking for password! o.O |
| 23:07.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | and the second half of your statement makes no sense at all |
| 23:08.17 | kerio | gainroot checks for rdmode, and only gives you a root shell if it's enabled |
| 23:08.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | orly? |
| 23:08.46 | kerio | yarly! |
| 23:08.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | BS |
| 23:09.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | gainroot also checks sudoers |
| 23:09.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why sudo gainroot |
| 23:09.25 | kerio | no it doesn't |
| 23:09.30 | kerio | gainroot is a script |
| 23:09.34 | kerio | sudo checks sudoers |
| 23:09.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, I got no time for that pointless BS |
| 23:10.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | let's discuss why you write your nick the wrong way |
| 23:10.42 | kerio | :o |
| 23:10.52 | kerio | what's the right way? |
| 23:10.58 | r00t^home | it looks like my second n900 broke... to me it seems like some heavy filesystem corruption... at first only modest kept crashing, apparantly beacuse it's database was corrupted... then random settings got reset, tracker was broken (media player said no files), the "three dots" bootscreen didn't appear (but it still booted), now it stopped booting completely... |
| 23:11.13 | kerio | "broke" |
| 23:11.19 | kerio | reflash it, and restore a backup |
| 23:11.39 | r00t^home | well, the first one also stopped booting but i can't reflash it because usb is broken |
| 23:11.54 | r00t^home | and in this case, it could still be that the flash is physically broken... we'll see... |
| 23:11.57 | raid__ | DocScrutinizer05: you have to install CSSU to secure root? |
| 23:11.57 | kerio | do you have a way to boot from usd? |
| 23:12.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | raid__: no |
| 23:12.56 | r00t^home | fun stuff: i've been trying to get a working recovery boot recently (before it broke), but it seems that all installation instructions i found for that are outdated |
| 23:13.12 | raid__ | DocScrutinizer05: oh...i have to flash my phone? |
| 23:13.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | no |
| 23:13.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | you install rootsh and follow that oneliner instruction on jrtools |
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| 23:14.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | # fix NOPASSWD for root / sudo gainroot |
| 23:15.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | around half way down the page |
| 23:15.08 | raid__ | DocScrutinizer05: we are talking about the same wiki right? http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 23:15.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
| 23:15.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | you install rootsh, open a terminal, type |
| 23:15.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | root |
| 23:16.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | sed -e "s/Defaults env_reset/Defaults env_reset\nDefaults targetpw/;\ |
| 23:16.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's it |
| 23:17.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | you damn better set a root password before |
| 23:17.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | with |
| 23:17.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | passwd |
| 23:18.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | # fix NOPASSWD for root / sudo gainroot |
| 23:18.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | # this will allow your N900 to ask for ROOT password on "root" |
| 23:18.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | # and "sudo gainroot" as it's supposed to be |
| 23:18.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | ... |
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| 23:20.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | or you use nano or whatever editor you prefer, and add the one line |
| 23:20.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | Defaults targetpw |
| 23:20.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | manually, as well as the edit from |
| 23:20.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | user ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/gainroot |
| 23:20.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | to |
| 23:20.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | user ALL = PASSWD: /usr/sbin/gainroot |
| 23:21.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | in /etc/sudoers.d/01sudo |
| 23:22.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you don't add the >>Defaults targetpw<< line, then it will ask for *user's* password which makes no sense |
| 23:26.26 | raid__ | sorry, something just came up. let me deal with it |
| 23:26.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | afk for a beer, bbl |
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| 23:49.15 | raid__ | i see this is your setup script |
| 23:49.19 | raid__ | nice |
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| 23:57.35 | raid__ | DocScrutinizer05: it works, thanks! |
| 23:57.47 | raid__ | i guess i better finally try out CSSU |
| 23:57.58 | raid__ | and try your config |
| 23:58.20 | raid__ | i have some setup steps i perform on flash that you might be interested in |
| 23:58.43 | raid__ | they include rebinding the keyboard keys |
| 23:59.32 | raid__ | and that's mostly it |