| 00:00.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | at my end, both pong came same time |
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| 00:02.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually I had no |
| 00:02.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-05-18 00:22:32] <infobot> ~pong |
| 00:02.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | on my N900, but two |
| 00:02.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-05-18 00:22:52] <infobot> ~pong |
| 00:04.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ding |
| 00:04.05 | infobot | dong |
| 00:04.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~king |
| 00:04.19 | infobot | i guess king is Dessimat0r |
| 00:04.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~kong |
| 00:05.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo king |
| 00:05.18 | infobot | king -- created by Dessimat0r <Dessimat0r@public1-birk1-3-cust60.bagu.broadband.ntl.com> at Fri Jan 10 19:27:16 2003 (3780 days); it has been requested 7 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 59s ago. |
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| 00:06.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal king |
| 00:06.04 | infobot | "king" is "Dessimat0r" |
| 00:06.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, king is kong, or Dessimat0r |
| 00:06.33 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 00:06.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~king |
| 00:06.38 | infobot | [king] kong, or Dessimat0r |
| 00:06.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo king |
| 00:06.55 | infobot | king -- created by Dessimat0r <Dessimat0r@public1-birk1-3-cust60.bagu.broadband.ntl.com> at Fri Jan 10 19:27:16 2003 (3780 days); last modified 22s ago by DocScrutinizer05!~HaleBopp@openmoko/engineers/joerg; it has been requested 8 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 17s ago. |
| 00:07.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~sing |
| 00:07.25 | infobot | I'm Sexy and I know it! Yea! |
| 00:07.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~song |
| 00:07.35 | infobot | it has been said that song is what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl |
| 00:08.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm a barbioe giiiirl, in a barbie wooorld |
| 00:09.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~song |
| 00:09.07 | infobot | [song] what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl |
| 00:09.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo song |
| 00:09.31 | infobot | song -- created by Templarian <n=Templari@ppp-69-214-5-27.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net> at Sun Jan 24 02:44:53 2010 (1209 days); it has been requested 6 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 24s ago. |
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| 00:31.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~kong is ~king |
| 00:31.28 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 00:31.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~dong |
| 00:31.40 | infobot | ding |
| 00:32.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~pong |
| 00:32.02 | infobot | ~ping |
| 00:33.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, song is ~sing, or what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl |
| 00:33.14 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 00:33.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~song |
| 00:33.25 | infobot | i heard song is ~sing, or what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl |
| 00:33.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, song is <reply>~sing, or what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl |
| 00:33.52 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 00:33.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~song |
| 00:33.54 | infobot | ~sing, or what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl |
| 00:34.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~sing |
| 00:34.03 | infobot | I'm Sexy and I know it! Yea! |
| 00:35.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, sing is <reply>~song, or "I'm Sexy and I know it! Yea!" |
| 00:35.04 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 00:35.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~sing |
| 00:35.08 | infobot | ~song, or "I'm Sexy and I know it! Yea!" |
| 00:45.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~pong |
| 00:45.29 | infobot | ~ping |
| 00:45.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~dong |
| 00:45.36 | infobot | ding |
| 00:45.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~song |
| 00:45.44 | infobot | ~sing, or what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl |
| 00:45.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~kong |
| 00:45.54 | infobot | i guess kong is ~king |
| 00:46.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, kong is <reply>~king |
| 00:46.39 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 00:46.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~kong |
| 00:46.42 | infobot | ~king |
| 00:47.02 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: why are you having Seinfeldian conversation with a bot? :) |
| 00:47.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki seinfeld |
| 00:47.53 | jon_y | inane conversations :) |
| 00:48.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not having conversations, I'm checking/maintaining a database |
| 00:49.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~status |
| 00:49.09 | infobot | Since Thu May 16 18:12:47 2013, there have been 23 modifications, 99 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 39 commands. I have been awake for 1d 6h 36m 22s this session, and currently reference 119055 factoids. I'm using about 24076 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 391.98/8.35 child 0/0 |
| 00:49.22 | jon_y | well it already sounds like it, carry on |
| 00:49.24 | jon_y | :) |
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| 00:50.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm wased by today's private and hidden and public debates and arguments |
| 00:50.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | wasted even |
| 00:51.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack |
| 00:51.11 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: :) |
| 00:51.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | cya |
| 00:53.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you wanna know details, see http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclog/ |
| 00:53.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | and that reveals only 20% |
| 01:11.09 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, deep breath. I feel deja vu reading that log. |
| 01:11.24 | GeneralAntilles | Relax and cut yourself and other people some slack. |
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| 01:51.05 | dhbiker | hi there |
| 01:51.07 | dhbiker | anyone here ? |
| 01:51.24 | dhbiker | i can't seem to get on Nokia's page for N900 image |
| 01:51.28 | dhbiker | for flashing o.O |
| 01:51.32 | dhbiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.03 | dhbiker | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php |
| 01:52.08 | dhbiker | does it work for anyone ? |
| 01:52.58 | nox- | ~skeiron |
| 01:52.58 | infobot | from memory, skeiron is the semi-official backup and emergency standin for all internet borne maemo resources: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 |
| 01:54.03 | dhbiker | sweet |
| 01:54.06 | dhbiker | tnx nox- |
| 01:54.15 | nox- | np |
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| 02:14.17 | dhbiker | mmm the sight of fresh flash :D |
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| 04:21.20 | dhbiker | sooo.... phone not booting and not going into flash mode |
| 04:21.27 | dhbiker | let me guess empty battery ? |
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| 12:32.46 | Muelli | ~bupbat |
| 12:32.46 | infobot | [bupbat] http://www.mouser.com/catalog/632/2009.pdf http://il.farnell.com/taiyo-yuden/pas414hr-va5r/cap-0-06f-3-3v-80ohm-4-8mm-coin/dp/1853000?Ntt=PAS414HR-VA5R, or use the capacitive type, LiIon are breaking during 12 months |
| 12:35.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | dhbiker, nox-: |
| 12:35.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~tabletsdev |
| 12:35.16 | infobot | rumour has it, tabletsdev is http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/ |
| 12:36.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~skeiron is also see: ~tabletsdev |
| 12:36.06 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 12:36.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~skeiron |
| 12:36.14 | infobot | skeiron is probably the semi-official backup and emergency standin for all internet borne maemo resources: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143, or see: ~tabletsdev |
| 12:36.46 | Muelli | hm. I don't understand that bupbat information. It suggests that there a two types of elements that one could use to replace the CMOS battery. The farnell link brings me to the capacitor. But what's the other option? |
| 12:37.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | LiIon |
| 12:37.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | deprecated |
| 12:38.26 | Muelli | is there any information on the specs of that LiIon battery? Like type number or smth? I want to head out to Conrad and they don't seem to have that type of capacitor. So I'm enumerating alternatives. |
| 12:40.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | Conrad can't help you |
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| 12:46.59 | dhbiker | hi there |
| 12:47.11 | dhbiker | what to do if flasher says |
| 12:47.14 | dhbiker | Version of 'sw-release': RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_MR0 |
| 12:47.15 | dhbiker | Booting device into flash mode. |
| 12:47.19 | dhbiker | and after that nothing |
| 12:47.27 | dhbiker | orange light and thats it |
| 12:48.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/capacitors/electric-double-layer-capacitors-supercaps/131084?k=414hr <--bupbat |
| 12:50.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?pv32=115&FV=fff40006%2Cfff804e4&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25 <--bupbat LiIon |
| 12:51.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | HB414-IV02E probably original component |
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| 12:57.56 | miniyo | hi guys, can anyone give any hint on how to proceed with http://pastebin.com/YnxQKirk ? |
| 12:58.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | dhbiker: charge your battery |
| 12:59.04 | dhbiker | i did |
| 12:59.06 | dhbiker | flashed |
| 12:59.12 | dhbiker | and now it doesn't want to start up |
| 12:59.14 | dhbiker | ffs |
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| 12:59.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flash |
| 12:59.25 | infobot | rumour has it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 12:59.42 | dhbiker | i'm on thi page |
| 12:59.48 | dhbiker | s* |
| 13:00.26 | dhbiker | now it powers on and instantly shuts down at nokia logo |
| 13:00.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | then your procedure is not in line with what the page tells to do |
| 13:01.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | do a complete reflash (*COMBINED* and *VANILLA*) |
| 13:01.42 | Muelli | DocScrutinizer05: thanks for the battery information. |
| 13:01.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw |
| 13:01.54 | dhbiker | apparently the other phone lied about charge |
| 13:02.02 | dhbiker | seems like this one is out of juice |
| 13:02.03 | dhbiker | -.- |
| 13:02.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | toldya |
| 13:03.35 | dhbiker | charging with nokia c3 |
| 13:03.52 | dhbiker | kay then i do the right stuff... only the batter needs to be properly charged |
| 13:03.55 | dhbiker | ty DocScrutinizer05 |
| 13:04.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw |
| 13:04.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | miniyo: are you even in the right channel? this looks like N9 to me |
| 13:04.43 | Muelli | too bad it's 30 USD shipping for the 1USB capacitor >.< |
| 13:04.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, |
| 13:04.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~questions |
| 13:04.54 | infobot | remember, there are no stupid questions, just stupid people. <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> |
| 13:04.54 | Muelli | s/USB/USD/ |
| 13:05.06 | miniyo | DocScrutinizer05: its n900 |
| 13:05.36 | miniyo | I created empty folders, dpkg doesn't complaint now |
| 13:05.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | Muelli: yeah, that's quite a problem |
| 13:06.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | I several times started an effort to join orders to get the shipping cut down for every participant |
| 13:06.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | it never panned out |
| 13:08.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | for 5 people, it would look like: 1 bupbat = 1USD + (30/5)USD + 0.55EUR for a standard international letter |
| 13:09.55 | Muelli | plus 19%VAT |
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| 13:13.50 | Muelli | Farnell seems to ship for free to the UK. |
| 13:16.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | 25 http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/PAS414HR-VA5R/587-2158-6-ND/1959165 = Zwischensumme 20,82 € Versand 18,00 € |
| 13:18.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~(20.82 + 18) / 25 |
| 13:18.15 | infobot | 1.5528 |
| 13:19.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | assuming you'd find enough people willing to get a few, at that price, so all 25 get sold |
| 13:20.01 | Muelli | so ~2.50 each battery/capacitor (if the batteries do not have to go through customs). |
| 13:20.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | 1.5528 |
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| 13:21.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | plus shipping from De -> destination, usually .55EUR |
| 13:21.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | once per order |
| 13:21.26 | Muelli | nah. you can't even send a letter within Germany for that price ;-) It's 0.75 EUR. |
| 13:21.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | ugh, since when? |
| 13:22.03 | Muelli | it's .75 for international letters for a long time. |
| 13:22.14 | Muelli | and .58 for domestic letters since 01.01. |
| 13:22.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | whatever |
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| 13:22.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | 20 ct difference |
| 13:23.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | on a total of at least 15EUR |
| 13:23.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | since I wouldn't start for qty < 10 pcs |
| 13:24.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, maybe I'd do 5 qty, when 4 persons step up to get 5 |
| 13:27.37 | RST38h | moos |
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| 13:28.58 | Win7Mac | probably you can get them here?: http://de.rs-online.com/web/c/batterien/batterien/knopfzellen-batterien/ |
| 13:29.46 | rikanee | the battery's soldered anyway to the N900, why not replace it with a cap? |
| 13:30.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | this *is* a cap |
| 13:31.10 | rikanee | ah, alright. |
| 13:31.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | 60mF |
| 13:31.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | m like milli |
| 13:31.53 | rikanee | DocScrutinizer05: mmm, that should keep the RTC powered for some time |
| 13:31.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | aka 0.06F |
| 13:32.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | for a week or two I guess |
| 13:33.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway better than a LiIonMg cell that's supposed to power the RTC for 24 monzhs but breaks and is dead after 12 |
| 13:33.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
| 13:34.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | not to talk about the mess when it leaks |
| 13:34.19 | rikanee | DocScrutinizer05: just one of the (numerous) little design flaws that made it into the N900. |
| 13:34.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | that particular design (rather QA) flaw made it into several products |
| 13:35.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | in Openmoko Freerunner we used exactly same friggin Seiko battery, and thus I already knew they would break after 12 months the latest ;-P |
| 13:36.06 | rikanee | well, they certainly didn't consider the fact that the user would welcome having to reset clock after having the battery drained for a year+++ than having to set clock again after having battery out for 3 seconds after a year of ownership ;) |
| 13:36.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | I have like 80 spare here, from fab, and all are dead X-P |
| 13:37.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | and don't ask about the nightmare to reflow those critters |
| 13:37.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | nearly impossible |
| 13:38.33 | rikanee | DocScrutinizer05, assuming the battery didn't wet the bed, a chip-remover (directed flow?) hot air gun works well. |
| 13:39.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | i'm talking about production line |
| 13:39.31 | divVerent | wait... so the n900 has something (cap) to power the rtc when the battery is removed? |
| 13:39.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think in the end our fab had them hand assembled |
| 13:39.38 | divVerent | never worked for me ;) |
| 13:39.47 | rikanee | DocScrutinizer05, wait, you have 80 OM boards with dead batteries? |
| 13:39.50 | rikanee | ouch. |
| 13:39.53 | divVerent | not that I care much, I have ntp sync in the status dropdown |
| 13:39.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, 80 batteries |
| 13:40.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | unused fresh dead ones |
| 13:40.42 | rikanee | that's some awful shelf life. |
| 13:40.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 13:41.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | Seiko cheating |
| 13:41.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's broken-at-production product |
| 13:41.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | just it turns out only 12 months later |
| 13:43.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | divVerent: no surprise it never worked for you - probably you never owned a N900 that been younger than 12 months (since production) ;-P |
| 13:44.00 | divVerent | hehe, yes |
| 13:44.11 | divVerent | so this is a dead battery inside? |
| 13:44.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 13:44.20 | divVerent | will it leak if I dont remove it? |
| 13:44.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, possibly |
| 13:44.41 | Raimu | :| |
| 13:44.48 | divVerent | and it is soldered in? |
| 13:44.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 13:45.07 | divVerent | damn... so I probably should remove it but can't |
| 13:45.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | directly next to power button |
| 13:45.16 | divVerent | so best I can do is hope it will not leak |
| 13:45.24 | rikanee | divVerent: not only is there a dead battery inside, there's a dead battery with likely awful electrolytic inside |
| 13:45.46 | divVerent | they all have awful electrolyte ;) |
| 13:46.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, it's not like a zinc-carbon battery, the leaking fluid is some organic acid that's not that destructive, it *seems* |
| 13:46.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | but it's not exactly gentle to your skin |
| 13:47.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway the amount of electrolyte is small inside that 414 coin |
| 13:47.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | diameter 4.8mm, height 1.5mm (or somesuch) |
| 13:47.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | and max 5% of that are electrolyte I guess |
| 13:48.57 | rikanee | oh, on an unrelated side note, my ISP just implemented capping and throttling on my unlimited plan. wonderful. |
| 13:49.32 | Raimu | rikanee, where'd you live? |
| 13:49.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.yuden.co.jp/productdata/catalog/en/capacitor01_e.pdf |
| 13:49.41 | rikanee | Raimu, the Philippines. |
| 13:50.58 | rikanee | since this is super ****ed, I'm going to my ISP this monday to terminate the contract and demand that they waive the ETF and CPE uninstall fee. |
| 13:55.13 | Muelli | so here's what I'll do. I try to order at uk.farnell.com by Monday. Hoping that they'll deliver Tuesday or Wednesday. I'll meet up with a British friend and return the week after. So by 01.06 I should be in possession of the parts. Shall I order some more? Who wants stuff? |
| 13:55.59 | Muelli | (It's apparently free delivery to the UK) |
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| 13:58.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | awesome! >> Don’t store PAS capacitor in a place where exposed to ozone, ultraviolet or x-ray. << |
| 14:00.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | Muelli: sure, please get me 10 |
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| 14:04.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | Muelli: though I honestly doubt Farnell will deliver free of charge. They's lose money on doing that |
| 14:05.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | no sane business will do stuff they lose money on |
| 14:05.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | Fernel Germany calims free shipping for orders >=65EUR |
| 14:06.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/calims/offers/ |
| 14:06.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | and Farnell of course |
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| 14:09.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | but Farnell Deutschland doesn't ship to end users anyway, see http://www.hbe-shop.de/ for their end user outlet |
| 14:11.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | HBE ships free of charge for orders >=90EUR |
| 14:13.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | Muelli: http://privatepaste.com/a11cd169b9 |
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| 14:16.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | KONDENSATOR,0.06F, 3.3V, STAKED COIN ArtikelNr.: 2112777 Stückpreis: 1,13 € *10 = 11,30EUR; +~12EUR for shipping |
| 14:18.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | Muelli: I'd offer to get some of those for you (any qty you like) for 1,13/unit plus 7EUR shipping contribution for the whole thing |
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| 14:20.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | so you can get one for ~8EUR, or 10 for ~ 1.83/unit |
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| 14:24.52 | Muelli | I see |
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| 14:28.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you give me a quantity you'd like, I'd go ordering right away |
| 14:30.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | (would be honestly surprised if this time this pans out) |
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| 15:58.52 | kerio | ~rescueos |
| 15:58.52 | infobot | [rescue-os] http://206.253.166.96/N900/rescueOS/ |
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| 16:09.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder if we could get rescueos to a more stable URL |
| 16:10.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno if my mirror on maemo.cloud-7 is up to date |
| 16:13.41 | kerio | Pali: is the user supposed to change mount-opts? |
| 16:13.48 | kerio | what's the purpose of mount-opts-override? |
| 16:14.07 | Pali | mount-opts comes from DEB package |
| 16:14.09 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: i can offer a reasonable amount of web hosting |
| 16:14.15 | Pali | so it will be overwritten after other update |
| 16:14.17 | kerio | Pali: so? it's a config file |
| 16:14.22 | kerio | you get asked for overwriting |
| 16:14.23 | Pali | and we have HAM |
| 16:14.29 | kerio | ...oh right |
| 16:14.34 | Pali | which do not ask... |
| 16:16.08 | kerio | Pali: nodiratime is implied by noatime |
| 16:16.24 | Pali | options come from nokia |
| 16:16.54 | kerio | yeah |
| 16:17.02 | kerio | my point, really |
| 16:18.17 | kerio | i love the "nodev,nosuid" on vfat |
| 16:21.41 | jaska | heh |
| 16:22.37 | kerio | welp, here goes nothing |
| 16:22.39 | kerio | (rebooting) |
| 16:24.01 | kerio | nope.jpg |
| 16:24.20 | kerio | Pali: halp |
| 16:25.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
| 16:25.49 | kerio | i /think/ it can't mount /home |
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| 16:28.26 | Pali | kerio, and what you did? |
| 16:28.43 | kerio | so far, nothing |
| 16:28.49 | kerio | and there's nothing in /var/log |
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| 16:42.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhm |
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| 18:55.17 | Wizzup | is happy with external keyboard and mouse support; works like a charm with my virtual input devices :-) |
| 18:55.41 | Wizzup | This command gives me both an external keyboard and mouse on my n900: ./input-read -CD /dev/input/event5 /dev/input/event7 | ssh root@nokia-n900 uinput-mapper/input-create -C |
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| 19:05.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | wow |
| 19:05.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | USB? |
| 19:06.08 | Wizzup | Well, it's USB on my netbook. Then I read the input devices on my netbook and forward the events over ssh (marshalled) and create identical devices with uinput on the n900 |
| 19:06.08 | Apic | WHAT! |
| 19:06.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | always loves to hear somebody making good use of USB hostmode |
| 19:06.27 | Wizzup | No, it's not USB hostmode. :-) |
| 19:06.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | UGH! |
| 19:06.52 | Wizzup | I will play more with that when I place the microusb AB connector on my n900 with broken usb |
| 19:07.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe |
| 19:07.30 | Wizzup | I'm using this program I wrote: http://hetgrotebos.org/wiki/uinput-mapper (it is actually pretty nice for input redirections) |
| 19:08.31 | Wizzup | More practical, perhaps, you can do the inverse |
| 19:08.39 | Wizzup | (clone the n900 touchscreen to your netbook, and use it as input there) |
| 19:08.47 | Wizzup | over wifi |
| 19:12.33 | Wizzup | The only problem is making sure that you don't click on too many things on the n900 X in the process ;-) |
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| 19:16.59 | kerio | Wizzup: does it perform significantly better than vnc |
| 19:17.00 | kerio | ? |
| 19:17.57 | Wizzup | kerio: well, in this case, no display/screen is forwarded |
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| 19:27.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | Wizzup: sounds like a mad useful program |
| 19:27.17 | kerio | indeed |
| 19:28.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | I always wondered how to mount or open devices on remote machines locally |
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| 19:30.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooooh, and it's python :3 |
| 19:31.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | how's thruput? |
| 19:32.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | what about camera devices? |
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| 19:32.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd love to mount the camera of N900-a to N900-b to have a wireless remote camera |
| 19:35.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, probably it's still just for *input* devices, right? |
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| 19:53.35 | Wizzup | DocScrutinizer05: I don't know about camera devices, it's probably a bit harder, but it should be possible, but not with uinput-mapper |
| 19:54.07 | Wizzup | But yeah, this is for input devices only. Maybe I can extend the idea but I would have to think about it |
| 19:54.33 | Wizzup | and yeah, it's python now. :-) was C before, but I switched to python once a basic concept worked |
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| 20:26.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems a good starting point for my kbd/mouse versatile macro driver |
| 20:27.22 | Wizzup | You can also just program uinput directly with it, I think |
| 20:27.32 | Wizzup | but I'll be working on it more in the next few weeks (documentation etc) |
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| 22:44.50 | Sc0rpius | I mean I can click on the "promote package" but I wonder if it'll ever be promoted |
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