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| 04:47.10 | andre__ | oh awesome, bugs.maemo.org redirects to wiki.maemo.org |
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| 06:09.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | andre__: we had to take it down until somebody applies necessary security patches to bugzilla |
| 06:10.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | andre__: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1341977&postcount=65 |
| 06:13.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | I tried to ping you about that 1 or 2 days ago, to inform you directly and ask you about your opinion regarding maintainership for bugzilla. Meanwhile freemangordon has been shanghaied |
| 06:14.08 | andre__ | makes sense |
| 06:14.28 | andre__ | somebody needs to upgrade |
| 06:14.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 06:14.42 | andre__ | even if you apply all 3.4 patches, there are enough open issues left |
| 06:14.46 | andre__ | as 3.4 is not maintained anymore |
| 06:15.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, I'm afraid the patch I suggested is not really sufficient |
| 06:15.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | our sysops already made a backup of the wiki/bugs VM, and FMG will tackle it on weekend IIRC |
| 06:16.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | I hope he will do "the right thing" |
| 06:16.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | but of course you're free to discuss with him what's the correct and sensible way forward |
| 06:17.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | I can't handle every single aspect of every single subsystem's maintenance myself, I need to rely on my maintainers to take good care |
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| 08:08.45 | Pali | ccxCZ: ping |
| 08:09.39 | ccxCZ | pong |
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| 08:15.08 | ccxCZ | Pali: didn't really had time to play with 0xFFFF but at least my /dev/bus/usb problem is magically gone now |
| 08:15.42 | Pali | ccxCZ: ok do you have still some segfauls? |
| 08:17.06 | ccxCZ | let me check with head |
| 08:18.17 | ccxCZ | or rather, let me boot to new kernel first :-) |
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| 09:23.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | moo |
| 09:28.58 | vi__ | ShadowJK: You compiled gpodder? |
| 09:29.32 | vi__ | Did you notice any improvement in running speed? |
| 09:32.46 | Mr_Stupid | Oorgle! |
| 09:33.18 | Apic | Bleat. |
| 09:33.40 | vi__ | Bleeeeargh! |
| 09:34.11 | Mr_Stupid | Not bad :) |
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| 10:47.46 | ShadowJK | vi__; no |
| 10:48.26 | ShadowJK | vi__; there shoudn't be any speedup, python compiles uncompiled stuff on startup |
| 10:49.25 | ShadowJK | so it'd only change startup speed? |
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| 11:02.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | right |
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| 11:11.16 | vi__ | lame. Mrs vi_ has gpodder loaded up with a retarded number of podcasts and complains it is sometimes too slow. |
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| 12:47.16 | divVerent | Hi... I have a bad problem... after a reboot (I know fsck found some inconsistencies) I can no longer enter mobile network. It just does not appear in the list any more. |
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| 12:47.36 | divVerent | I probably need to delete some gconf file... any idea which? |
| 12:53.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~tabletsdev |
| 12:53.49 | infobot | rumour has it, tabletsdev is http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/ |
| 12:55.53 | divVerent | anyway, is there any way to fix this other than restarting with empty ~ AGAIN? |
| 12:56.52 | divVerent | issue basically is, the carrier's GPRS connection data is no longer in the internet connections list |
| 12:59.16 | divVerent | ah, issue got "resolved" by rebooting |
| 13:00.03 | divVerent | #so deleting the gconf files related to IAP/APN/... and rebooting did it... so for next time, which process should I have killed instead? ;) |
| 13:00.45 | Pali | DocScrutinizer51, merlin1991: bugs on repository.maemo.org: |
| 13:01.27 | Pali | 1. <token-code> link on http://repository.maemo.org/ point to: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/eula/index.php instead http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/eula/index.php |
| 13:02.06 | Pali | 2. on page http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/eula/index.php is missing random picture, so it is not possible to rewrite verification code |
| 13:02.20 | Pali | and thus not possible to accept license |
| 13:03.22 | Pali | 3. on http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/ buttom link "Terms of Use" points to http://repository.maemo.org/legal/terms_of_use.html instead http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/legal/terms_of_use.html |
| 13:05.58 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: look ^^^ |
| 13:06.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | already checking |
| 13:06.14 | Pali | ok |
| 13:06.54 | Pali | 2. is big problem and without it is not possible to add Nokia SDK binaries repository to scratchbox |
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| 13:12.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O on 2. |
| 13:15.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | F U pastebin |
| 13:15.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok prepare for spam |
| 13:16.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> |
| 13:16.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | <html> |
| 13:16.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | <head> |
| 13:16.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | <title>Forwarding to the EULA page</title> |
| 13:16.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | <meta http-equiv="REFRESH" content="0;url=index.php"></HEAD> |
| 13:16.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | <BODY> |
| 13:16.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | If this page is not automatically reloaded please click here: <a href="http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/eula/index.php">EULA</a> |
| 13:16.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | </BODY> |
| 13:16.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | </HTML> |
| 13:16.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | /var/tabletsdev/eula/index.html (END) |
| 13:16.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | tell me what to change |
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| 13:28.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: please edit http://maemo.cloud-7.de/migration-project/_var_repository_live_index.html |
| 13:28.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | and post to me |
| 13:32.01 | Pali | sent |
| 13:34.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | and? |
| 13:36.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | is that a turn-around time, eh? |
| 13:36.52 | Pali | 2. problem: it is not possible to accpet license on http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/eula/index.php |
| 13:37.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | could somebody please beat me with a club? |
| 13:37.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | editing friggin html pages on my birthday |
| 13:38.28 | Pali | image points to url: http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/eula/randomImage.php |
| 13:38.44 | Pali | which is 500 Internal Server Error |
| 13:38.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | I bet it is |
| 13:39.10 | Pali | and white screen in browser |
| 13:39.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | please inspect full source code |
| 13:39.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | this is a friggin php generated page. sorry I can't do anything for that |
| 13:40.15 | Pali | Enter Number: <img src="randomImage.php"></td> |
| 13:40.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | php is beyond me, waaay beyond |
| 13:41.43 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: 3. problem on http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/, it should be only html edit |
| 13:41.57 | Pali | replace: <center><a href="/legal/terms_of_use.html">Terms of Use</a></center> |
| 13:42.03 | Pali | with: <center><a href="legal/terms_of_use.html">Terms of Use</a></center> |
| 13:42.16 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: why is that an html page and not an http 301? |
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| 13:45.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: http://privatepaste.com/d0a9f4dfa0 |
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| 13:47.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/ff8f265140 |
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| 13:52.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: wtf, replace X with X? |
| 13:52.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh, / missing |
| 13:52.31 | Pali | rigth, without char '/' |
| 13:52.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | now that's easy |
| 13:52.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | check please! |
| 13:54.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | never knew that mc "renders" .html |
| 13:54.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | on "F3 view" |
| 13:54.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | recheck! |
| 13:54.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | I missed to save |
| 13:56.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: ??? |
| 13:56.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | I wanna close that friggin file! |
| 13:57.27 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: now working fine |
| 13:57.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, looks good to me |
| 13:58.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | so, your last chance to make me do other silly boring stuff while I should get booze and hookers |
| 13:59.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | sidenote: for php edits I will accept sed or patch files only |
| 14:00.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | or, even better, shell script files to source |
| 14:00.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | I *won't* do a diff on maemo.org to check what been edited before I swap around old and new .php |
| 14:02.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, too late |
| 14:03.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | afk, bbl, much l |
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| 14:20.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: |
| 14:21.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | root@stage:/var/tabletsdev/eula# cat index.html |
| 14:21.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> |
| 14:21.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | <html> |
| 14:21.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | <head> |
| 14:21.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | <title>Forwarding to the EULA page</title> |
| 14:21.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | <meta http-equiv="REFRESH" content="0;url=index.php"></HEAD> |
| 14:21.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | <BODY> |
| 14:21.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | If this page is not automatically reloaded please click here: <a href="http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/eula/index.php">EULA</a> |
| 14:21.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | </BODY> |
| 14:21.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | </HTML> |
| 14:21.50 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: fix it to http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/eula/index.php |
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| 14:22.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | k |
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| 14:24.23 | vi__ | GAAAH! |
| 14:24.31 | vi__ | How do I store a float in a word? |
| 14:24.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | WAAAAAAT? |
| 14:24.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | not at all? |
| 14:25.13 | vi__ | rofl, my boss thinks otherwise. |
| 14:25.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | your boss is A GASHEAD |
| 14:25.39 | vi__ | Is that a German insult? |
| 14:25.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | every idiot knows floats are 64bit and words usually 32 |
| 14:25.57 | vi__ | ... |
| 14:26.06 | vi__ | I thought a word was 2 bytes. |
| 14:26.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | depends |
| 14:26.27 | divVerent | and floats are 32bit ;) |
| 14:26.32 | divVerent | double is 64bit :P |
| 14:26.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, ok |
| 14:26.44 | divVerent | but I know what you meant |
| 14:26.49 | divVerent | one just doesn't USE the float type normally |
| 14:26.52 | divVerent | one just always uses double |
| 14:26.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | I already am late with my booze |
| 14:26.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
| 14:27.10 | divVerent | so the typical floating point variable is 64bit, and the typical integer is 32bit |
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| 14:27.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | right |
| 14:27.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's what i meant |
| 14:27.53 | vi__ | As the number only ranges from 0.5>1.2 I am thinking store it as an integer without the decimal point. Then divide it by 10 when I want to use it. |
| 14:27.54 | Pali | double is 80bit |
| 14:28.02 | divVerent | no |
| 14:28.04 | divVerent | long double is ;) |
| 14:28.16 | Pali | ah, yes long double :-) |
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| 14:28.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: that's the right thinking! |
| 14:28.47 | Pali | stack orientated FPU on x86... |
| 14:28.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | avoid real like the plague |
| 14:29.00 | divVerent | BTW, as for storign a float in a "word" (typically 16bit)... |
| 14:29.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | aka float |
| 14:29.02 | divVerent | nvidia does this :P |
| 14:29.05 | divVerent | it is called the "half" type |
| 14:29.14 | divVerent | a quite inaccurate 16bit floating point type |
| 14:29.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL |
| 14:29.47 | divVerent | so if you need a 16bit float, maybe use nvidia's version to not bring a SECOND 16bit float to the world |
| 14:29.57 | Pali | x86 has 16bit float too |
| 14:30.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | 9 bit mantissa, 2 bit signs, 5 bit exponent? |
| 14:30.35 | divVerent | Pali: x86 has it? didn't know... which instructions? |
| 14:31.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | joyfully announces the 32bit FRACTIONAL type |
| 14:31.33 | divVerent | nvidia uses 10bit mantissa, 5bit exponent (no sign, but a shift, as usual), and 1bit sign |
| 14:31.47 | divVerent | DocScrutinizer05: hm... reminds me of AVRational ;) |
| 14:31.49 | divVerent | in libav* |
| 14:32.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | with moving "/" |
| 14:32.13 | divVerent | NOW that is cool |
| 14:32.27 | divVerent | ah, looks like this half precision float is actually standardized |
| 14:32.29 | divVerent | didn't know that |
| 14:32.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | from 1/(2^28) to (2^28)/1 |
| 14:33.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
| 14:33.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | my |
| 14:33.47 | Pali | divVerent, CVT16 instruction sets |
| 14:33.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | 9 bit mantissa, 2 bit signs, 5 bit exponent? |
| 14:33.57 | Pali | part of some SSE |
| 14:34.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | wasn't that bad a guess, eh? EH?? |
| 14:34.06 | vi__ | There is a special place in the lowest circles of programmers hell for the sins I have committed. |
| 14:35.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | claims (C)2013-JR on FRACTIONAL data type |
| 14:36.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: your previous post sounded muuuuuch better |
| 14:36.46 | Pali | divVerent, I think that half is part of AVX |
| 14:37.23 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, something from IBM support decimal FPU :D |
| 14:38.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | but not FRACTIONAL |
| 14:38.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | 1/3 |
| 14:38.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
| 14:38.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | 3/2 |
| 14:39.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | (the latter doesn't work on binary, I heard) |
| 14:40.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | the former obviously not in decimal and binary |
| 14:40.41 | vi__ | Well it works. I guess the take home lesson here is your boss does not care how it is done, just that it is done! |
| 14:42.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | the boss has foolish ideas how stuff should get done |
| 14:43.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | for a n.n (or 9.9, in COBOL) you NEVER use float! |
| 14:43.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | you shift decimal one digit, and use int |
| 14:43.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-05-09 16:27:53] <vi__> As the number only ranges from 0.5>1.2 I am thinking store it as an integer without the decimal point. Then divide it by 10 when I want to use it. |
| 14:44.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | if only fsckng qt devels knew |
| 14:45.03 | vi__ | The space on the flash memory was allocated as 2 bytes some years ago. |
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| 14:45.34 | vi__ | TBH I do not understand why. |
| 14:45.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | ummm, so what? |
| 14:46.07 | vi__ | So I have a file that hard allocates >150 variables on a flash memory. |
| 14:46.22 | vi__ | and I want to make one in the middle bigger. |
| 14:46.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 14:47.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | wnat to make it *bigger*? WHY? |
| 14:47.54 | vi__ | because I cannot store a FP in a word! |
| 14:48.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | nobody ever needs FP |
| 14:49.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | except astronomy |
| 14:51.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | even when you juggle with USA state debit, you still don't want to use float, rather use int64 then |
| 14:51.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
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| 15:29.00 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: Decimal ftw |
| 15:31.20 | kerio | or Fraction, too |
| 15:34.00 | Trizt | I bricked my N900, a question, is it possible to charge the battery somehow? I don't have much left on it also which PR1.3 should I use, don't seem to be any global versions at skeiron.org |
| 15:34.46 | Trizt | found it the global version of 1.3 |
| 15:34.51 | kerio | ~pr131 |
| 15:34.52 | infobot | somebody said combined was the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 15:35.02 | kerio | saves you the initial update |
| 15:35.09 | kerio | and... mmh |
| 15:35.37 | kerio | one thing you can do is load rescueOS and charge from there, if you must |
| 15:36.07 | Trizt | how do you do that? |
| 15:37.21 | kerio | ~rescueOS |
| 15:37.21 | infobot | rumour has it, rescue-os is http://206.253.166.96/N900/rescueOS/ |
| 15:37.28 | kerio | read the README |
| 15:37.35 | Trizt | thanks |
| 15:37.49 | kerio | i assume your condition is such that you can't boot to charge and you can't flash because of low battery? |
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| 15:40.23 | Trizt | yeah |
| 15:43.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | classic deadlock |
| 15:44.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | rescueOS FTW |
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| 15:55.31 | Trizt | the led is shining yellow (not blinking) this how it supposed to be when charging the battery? |
| 15:56.46 | Trizt | sorry, din't read to the end |
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| 16:13.03 | kerio | emergency charge won't charge the battery enough |
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| 16:13.51 | Trizt | so 100% emergency charge is like 20% normal charge or? |
| 16:19.17 | Drathir | if i good think emegrency work to definied amount of battery power, and when charge to that switch to normal charging mode... |
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| 16:30.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell Trizt about flatbatrecover |
| 16:31.16 | Trizt | flatbatrecover? |
| 16:31.32 | Trizt | DocScrutinizer05: tell more, please |
| 16:31.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 16:31.54 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: do we know if nolo will let you /load/ kernel+initrd when the battery is too low? |
| 16:32.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-05-09 18:30:52] <infobot> told Trizt about flatbatrecover (Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber going off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover) |
| 16:33.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: not yet |
| 16:33.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | still nobody tested it *and* reported |
| 16:33.47 | Trizt | Hmm |
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| 16:37.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | what works for sure (though only theoretically) was loading a special build of uBoot for "coldflashing" RAM borne 1st stage BL, which would just do charging and nothing else |
| 16:37.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | since there's no such special uBoot, it's a theoretical option only |
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| 16:41.41 | Trizt | Had been nice to be able to chroot it and just rerun the kernel update, then all had been fixed |
| 16:43.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: however, since when NOLO doesn't even *start* flashing when battery is too low, it has no way to notice you want to ramload instead of flash to NAND |
| 16:43.58 | kerio | :( |
| 16:45.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: so, the question is: will NOLO come up with NOKIA screen **and USB icon**, and stay in flashing mode, when Trizt holds 'u' button during the moment when amber steady LED stops shining and NOLO gets booted? I guess we already know the answer: no, probably not. |
| 16:51.22 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, how hard is to write ARM ASM code for direct access to bq2415x charger via I2C? |
| 16:51.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | not hard |
| 16:51.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | since I2C is a IP block |
| 16:52.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | afaik |
| 16:52.11 | Pali | and what needs to be inlitialized/called if we want to make that asm code as "bootloader" |
| 16:52.32 | Pali | uboot is big so we cannot load it via colflash :-( |
| 16:52.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | means you write addr of peripheral chip to one register of interface, chip register addr to another, and data to a third |
| 16:53.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | (what needs initialization) well, just about the same stuff as for beagleboard, I guess |
| 16:54.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | or was it pandaboard? |
| 16:55.11 | Trizt | the flatbat didn't work, started to "reboot" all the time |
| 16:55.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's what it does as soon as battery is full enough to actually boot up the CPU |
| 16:55.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | so emergency charging worked like a charm |
| 16:56.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | flatbatrecover is meant for otherwise intact systems |
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| 16:57.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | it won't magically fix your NAND for you |
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| 17:00.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | look, there's a battery level threshold at which the CPU can boot (what we all usually call boot is actually mostly the system init process of linux, *boot* is when cpu starts to execute commands) |
| 17:03.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | when battery is too weak to start up CPU (alias boot), then flatbatrecovery aka emergency hw charging kicks in. eventually battery trips the boot threshold and NOLO bootloader gets executed. It's NOLO which a) stops emergency charging, and b) decides to directly boot into a (possibly messed up & broken) linux to continue charging under sw control, when battery is considered too weak for flashing |
| 17:05.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | when your rootfs is messed up, that sw charging never will happen, and after a few 10s of seconds the latest battery is empty to the level of hard system shutdown, at which point emergency charging kicks in again |
| 17:06.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ---> bootloop |
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| 17:15.57 | muellisoft | So I got myself Micro USB ports to solder onto my n900 which has a very loose one. Any hints for me to follow? Things to not forget, to take care of, etc? |
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| 17:21.08 | Trizt | thanks for the explanation Doc, now I have to try to remember how to use dpkg and see if I can't fix it by uninstall ipv6 support and reininstall kernel |
| 17:21.20 | Drathir | DocScrutinizer05: thats is good to learn bot about bootloop i think clearly explained... thanks for that too helpfull for me a lot... |
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| 17:28.18 | kerio | ~usbfix |
| 17:28.18 | infobot | hmm... usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) |
| 17:28.20 | kerio | muellisoft: ^ |
| 17:28.51 | muellisoft | wow. thx kerio. Let me save that for later. |
| 17:30.17 | kerio | Trizt: hold on, how do you get to a point where you could do that? |
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| 17:31.25 | Trizt | keiro: rescueOS mount-maemo |
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| 17:31.52 | Trizt | hmm... seems rescueOS changes MAC on the wifi |
| 17:33.42 | kerio | Trizt: hold on, you can just charge and then reflash |
| 17:35.15 | Trizt | kerio: I rather not reflash as I don't want to fix everything after the flashing, I flash if the reinstall fails |
| 17:35.33 | kerio | remember to keep /opt/ mounted in your chroot jail |
| 17:36.32 | Trizt | yeah, thanks for the pointer there |
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| 17:57.51 | sixwheeledbeast | infobot: ping |
| 17:57.51 | infobot | ~pong |
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| 18:00.40 | zammy | but how to watch youtube on n900? |
| 18:01.26 | zammy | I tested all youtube clients... mytube cutetube *qml* and zoutube ytube... nothing works |
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| 18:02.22 | sixwheeledbeast | zammy: cutetube |
| 18:02.31 | zammy | well actually I could not install cutetube |
| 18:02.33 | zammy | idk why |
| 18:03.14 | sixwheeledbeast | error information? problems tab output? |
| 18:03.47 | zammy | wait... I am going to seek for more detail |
| 18:06.01 | zammy | it slows down a lot during application manager |
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| 18:06.53 | zammy | alright cutetube 1.4.1 |
| 18:07.01 | zammy | 11,1 mb downloading |
| 18:07.37 | zammy | now |
| 18:08.27 | zammy | after downloaded it says Impossible to download 'cuteTube'... app package not found... |
| 18:09.44 | Apic | B-þ |
| 18:09.44 | sixwheeledbeast | repository issue? as 1.4.1 isn't in the repo's according to package iface. |
| 18:10.09 | zammy | ok |
| 18:10.17 | zammy | now I deactivated the extra |
| 18:10.21 | zammy | on repo |
| 18:10.30 | sixwheeledbeast | anyway only the latest from devel will work due to youtube changing things every 6 mths. |
| 18:10.36 | sixwheeledbeast | repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/c/cutetube/cutetube_1.7.2_armel.deb |
| 18:10.57 | zammy | alright |
| 18:11.05 | zammy | I was totally wrong |
| 18:11.06 | zammy | thx |
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| 18:13.01 | sixwheeledbeast | zammy: 1.7.2 definitely works I have used since it's realise with no issues. |
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| 18:14.28 | zammy | ok |
| 18:14.38 | zammy | but now it asks me other packages |
| 18:14.59 | zammy | such as libqtm-12 and ffmpeg |
| 18:15.35 | zammy | can you suggest me the right way to write the repository on catalogs please? |
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| 18:18.09 | sixwheeledbeast | asks you to install other packages? how are you installing? |
| 18:18.33 | zammy | app manager |
| 18:18.47 | zammy | shall I use not the default app manager? |
| 18:18.58 | zammy | do you mean I shall use faster applications? |
| 18:19.26 | zammy | oh right |
| 18:19.27 | divVerent | same issue ;) |
| 18:19.31 | zammy | by terminale |
| 18:19.35 | zammy | dpkg? |
| 18:19.36 | divVerent | sorry, damn new weechat version ;) |
| 18:19.37 | zammy | right? |
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| 18:21.25 | sixwheeledbeast | zammy: click on link with MicroB http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/c/cutetube/cutetube_1.7.2_armel.deb |
| 18:21.39 | zammy | ok |
| 18:23.21 | zammy | now it asks me how shall I use this... saving it on my device or app manager |
| 18:23.27 | zammy | I choose app manager right' |
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| 18:25.23 | sixwheeledbeast | yep. |
| 18:25.35 | zammy | yes it's the same I am doing it ever |
| 18:25.52 | zammy | all the times I am doing it is the same way |
| 18:26.10 | sixwheeledbeast | So you have issue in the problems tab? |
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| 18:26.38 | zammy | it tells me actually I need libqtm-12 and ffmpeg |
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| 18:28.55 | zammy | alright it needed a apt-get install on terminal |
| 18:30.13 | sixwheeledbeast | odd I would have thought it would pull them automatically. |
| 18:30.49 | zammy | don't worry maybe you have installed this packages by other programs |
| 18:30.55 | zammy | anyway... all fine XD |
| 18:31.44 | zammy | and thank you sixwheeledbeast |
| 18:32.09 | sixwheeledbeast | libqtm-12 probably but not ffmpeg. anyway np. :) |
| 18:35.10 | zammy | pretty cool works... XD |
| 18:36.43 | zammy | really cool it uses also keyboard... |
| 18:36.45 | zammy | XD |
| 18:39.18 | sixwheeledbeast | yep I find the search can throw up some odd results. but works well. |
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| 18:43.54 | sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon: thumb wiki ok? :) |
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| 19:23.27 | kwtm | Hi, MohammadAG. Do you know what command-line I can use to launch a new terminal window? |
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| 19:33.41 | MohammadAG | osso-terminal? |
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| 19:36.52 | kwtm | MohammadAG: Thank you! Can I ask you (or anyone else here) one other question? In what directory do I find the desktop icons? I can't seem to find a clear answer by Google search, and icons (shortcuts and widgets) keep disappearing from my desktop. |
| 19:38.03 | kwtm | Typing "osso-terminal" doesn't seem to launch the terminal (or anything else) ... |
| 19:38.35 | kwtm | found it: osso-xterm |
| 19:39.01 | zammy | yes osso-xterm.... |
| 19:39.29 | zammy | tab button is the way to find out most of things |
| 19:39.46 | zammy | I presum to find all with tab actually XD |
| 19:39.57 | MohammadAG | sorry, been a long time since I've used my N900 :( |
| 19:40.01 | trx | kwtm /usr/share/icons/ |
| 19:40.12 | MohammadAG | /usr/share/applications/hildon/ for the .desktop files |
| 19:40.26 | MohammadAG | icons can be spread out |
| 19:40.35 | zammy | the tab tip is a fundamental overall linux matter |
| 19:40.41 | MohammadAG | from what trx said to /usr/share/pixmaps to somewhere in /opt |
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| 19:40.54 | zammy | and dos too if you think at |
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| 19:40.59 | trx | yeah, /usr/share/icons/ is in opt |
| 19:41.04 | trx | as i remember |
| 19:41.09 | trx | as a symbolic link |
| 19:41.25 | kwtm | MohammadAG: O no! You haven't used for N900 for a long time? Does that mean we poor mortals will slowly suffocate to death? Or is there some other scriptable smartphone we can use? |
| 19:42.03 | kwtm | I even bought a second N900 in case my first one dies, because ... well, with what else can I use vim to make a phone call? :P |
| 19:43.19 | zammy | MohammadAG, if you are going to learn the most used, or maybe all, command lines to use by a linux OS as maemo is linux OS as well then I suggest you this http://www.linuxguide.it/command_line/linux_commands_en.html |
| 19:44.57 | kwtm | zammy: ?? Why are you telling MohammadAG this? He doesn't know Linux cmd lines? |
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| 19:53.37 | kerio | hahahahaha amazing |
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| 19:56.41 | zammy | just to make it refresh memory I 'd keep really in care that link anyway even if I know some linux cmd lines |
| 19:57.14 | zammy | no intention to offense anyone... |
| 19:57.36 | zammy | not really |
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| 23:30.45 | raid_ | is something wrong with skeiron repositories? |
| 23:31.24 | dr1fter | package downloads are taking forever |
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| 23:41.54 | dr1fter | hello? |
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