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| 00:37.17 | Win7Mac | alive & kickin, DocScrutinizer... ;-) |
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| 01:11.37 | Macer | my video didn't play :-/ |
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| 01:15.29 | Macer | let me try encoding it with the preset they have on the wiki |
| 01:17.34 | Macer | wow |
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| 04:32.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1338394&postcount=41 |
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| 05:04.26 | n900-dk | Stupid get vote token "The e-mail address and username you gave do not match an existing voter, or you have already voted." |
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| 05:35.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? |
| 05:35.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | you got a mail with a mail-addr and a token |
| 05:36.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | please c&p both to the according fields in voting page |
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| 05:39.57 | n900-dk | no, I tried to get a token |
| 05:41.07 | n900-dk | registered yesterday on maemo.org, but login fails on maemo.org, but works fine on gmo |
| 05:42.52 | Sc0rpius | I guess you can't vote unless you're older than 3 months |
| 05:43.09 | Sc0rpius | I mean your account is older than 3 months |
| 05:43.25 | n900-dk | ;) ahh, I see |
| 05:44.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're free to send a mail to council, as suggested before |
| 05:44.55 | n900-dk | ok, thx |
| 05:45.37 | n900-dk | but it is correct that an account on gmo should also work for login on mo? |
| 05:45.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, not exactly |
| 05:45.56 | Sc0rpius | no I guess it's not |
| 05:46.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | for some strange reason they may differ |
| 05:46.24 | Sc0rpius | I even have different users for garage and for tmo |
| 05:46.39 | Sc0rpius | I mean usernames |
| 05:46.43 | n900-dk | but I registered on mo, but account onyl works on gmo |
| 05:46.45 | Sc0rpius | though somehow the accounts are linked |
| 05:46.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | I strongly suggest to use same username and passowrd on all accounts/logins, or you go insane |
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| 05:48.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | tmo is completely differend story |
| 05:49.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's at least one account on bmo, on gmo and on tmo |
| 05:49.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | possibly mo is yet another one |
| 05:49.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | bmo account is via mail-addr |
| 05:50.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | tmo is completely unrelated |
| 05:50.23 | Sc0rpius | btw |
| 05:50.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | though you can link your tmo account into gmo |
| 05:50.37 | Sc0rpius | somebody earlier said that since the migration all maemo.org is laggy but I do not agree |
| 05:50.56 | Sc0rpius | actually I get faster speeds from the repositores than before and the builder is way faster |
| 05:50.59 | n900-dk | I just dont understand how to register on mo then? The Register-button on mo is for gmo. |
| 05:51.00 | Sc0rpius | BUT tmo is slower |
| 05:51.05 | Sc0rpius | but tmo != maemo.org |
| 05:51.12 | Sc0rpius | it's just a little part of it |
| 05:51.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, then the both should be identical |
| 05:52.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | possibly needs syncing back from gmo db to www |
| 05:52.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | which is a job that eats 6GB of ram for 30min |
| 05:52.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | thus we don't currently run it via cron |
| 05:53.03 | Sc0rpius | I just checked and my maemo.org account is the same than the garage.maemo.org account |
| 05:53.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 05:53.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | I see the issue now |
| 05:53.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | sync job is neutered |
| 05:53.33 | Sc0rpius | but totally different to the tmo account of course. |
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| 05:54.12 | Sc0rpius | so the sync job is not in cron anymore? |
| 05:54.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | n900-dk: please stay patient, I'll try to prod my tech guys into finally doing sth with that snc job |
| 05:54.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sc0rpius: exactly |
| 05:54.43 | n900-dk | DocScrutinizer05: Excellent :) |
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| 05:55.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | if nothing happened to fix stuff during next 24h, please pester me again, i'll run the job manually then |
| 05:55.38 | n900-dk | I will |
| 05:55.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks |
| 06:08.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | WTF uplink 84Mb/s |
| 06:10.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | somebody really hammering hard maemo.org |
| 06:12.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhm, back to 56 |
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| 06:59.08 | XATRIX | Can anyone advice me some app as advanced call manager/history, to view detailed log of every incoming/outgoing call made ? |
| 07:00.00 | XATRIX | How many incoming/missed calls was maid , what time rach call was registered... |
| 07:00.11 | n900-dk | XATRIX: I like Extented Call Log |
| 07:01.09 | XATRIX | Let's see |
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| 07:09.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | XATRIX: you'll need the patches to eventdb, see |
| 07:09.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 07:09.57 | infobot | [jrtools] http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 07:10.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | >> ## find original at http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/eventsdb_calllog_triggers.sh << |
| 07:11.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | # execute or source this to fix the missing end-times in eventslogger db |
| 07:11.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | # thanks hcm @ http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=690253&postcount=20 |
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| 07:28.38 | XATRIX | DocScrutinizer05: are these patches for Ext Call Log? |
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| 07:30.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 07:31.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | get http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/eventsdb_calllog_triggers.sh and execute in in a rootshell on N900 |
| 07:31.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | after that you could as well delete it, as you probably won't need is again soon |
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| 07:43.48 | XATRIX | Ok, thanks for a notice! |
| 07:44.55 | XATRIX | ok, executed and removed |
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| 11:34.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack |
| 11:34.57 | infobot | :), DocScrutinizer05 |
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| 12:08.38 | anthonie | does anyone know why karma voting doesn't work in the maemo garage? |
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| 12:24.52 | Macer | hm |
| 12:25.05 | Macer | is there no m3u8 stream support for maemo? |
| 12:26.14 | anthonie | @macer, yes it's supported |
| 12:29.17 | Macer | hm |
| 12:29.20 | Macer | doesnt seem to be |
| 12:29.34 | Macer | can the browser not pass it off to video player? |
| 12:31.07 | anthonie | perhaps if you add it as an internetstation to the mediaplayer but I am not sure about that. |
| 12:31.15 | Macer | hm |
| 12:32.57 | Macer | let me look it up |
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| 12:37.34 | Macer | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40822 |
| 12:37.36 | Macer | lol |
| 12:37.39 | Macer | wth? |
| 12:39.43 | anthonie | I thought the number 8 in m3u8 was a typo and that you were talking about m3u. my bad... |
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| 12:41.34 | anthonie | it does appear that hls-player supports m3u8 though... |
| 12:44.43 | anthonie | also, have a look here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=683112 |
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| 12:56.17 | Macer | heh |
| 12:56.28 | Macer | no i mean the streaming format |
| 12:57.52 | Macer | hls-player? |
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| 12:58.42 | anthonie | yes, it's on git |
| 12:58.50 | Macer | oh |
| 12:59.15 | Macer | i skimmed through that post and saw some script etc |
| 12:59.35 | Macer | i just want to stream videos :-/ |
| 12:59.50 | Macer | ad-droid does this fine out the box |
| 13:03.04 | anthonie | maemo is not droid... |
| 13:04.08 | kerio | uses livestreamer, even on his computer, for most of the streaming sites |
| 13:04.14 | kerio | actually no, only for twitch.tv |
| 13:04.18 | kerio | but it supports more than that |
| 13:04.32 | kerio | it's a python program that uses rtmpdump and your video player of choice |
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| 14:06.17 | zammy | hi all |
| 14:08.46 | zammy | I am new... |
| 14:09.02 | kerio | hi |
| 14:09.06 | zammy | I would some information... |
| 14:09.14 | zammy | is nokia n900 still developed |
| 14:09.21 | zammy | updating... |
| 14:09.28 | zammy | and it's still good ? |
| 14:09.36 | zammy | or in retirement |
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| 14:10.30 | zammy | I mean nowdays there is meego... lime or tizen |
| 14:10.53 | zammy | I mean I am so confused... not I bought on ebay a nokia n900 I would know if I have a wrong thing |
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| 14:11.36 | zammy | did I mistake ? |
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| 14:18.11 | kerio | i still use a n900 |
| 14:24.05 | zammy | so it's cool I was afraid that n900 and maemo was not still in development |
| 14:24.13 | zammy | that was old and dead |
| 14:25.00 | zammy | well now its cost is lower... I buyed one n900 and soon I will be able to use it... I am googling and I see a lot of cool stuff |
| 14:27.22 | zammy | anyway can n900 have other OS and upgrades in future right? |
| 14:27.45 | zammy | only thing I find that's a bad... maybe there is no 4g extension... |
| 14:33.44 | Raimu | Nokia doesn't do anything for n900 anymore, but users are making little improvements. |
| 14:35.26 | freemangordon | Raimu: little? :P |
| 14:35.57 | Raimu | Okay, massive huge improvements. :D |
| 14:36.23 | Raimu | But not like you can turn your n900 into a fighter jet Transformers style... yet |
| 14:58.31 | zammy | lol |
| 14:59.13 | freemangordon | Raimu: aah, that kind of improvements. yeah, correct :) |
| 15:00.10 | freemangordon | Raimu: BTW did you try to revert that initrd-thingie to stock version to see if it fixes BM? |
| 15:00.18 | freemangordon | or you can;t boot to try it |
| 15:00.49 | Raimu | I can't, because I didn't have a timely backup and there's no .deb to install over it. |
| 15:01.08 | freemangordon | Raimu: what .deb do you need? |
| 15:02.12 | zammy | but does maemo still have a lot of years of life? |
| 15:02.37 | freemangordon | zammy: accordin to some guys it is a zombie for the last 3 years :D |
| 15:02.52 | zammy | yes |
| 15:03.04 | zammy | that's the same result as you search on google about it |
| 15:03.29 | freemangordon | so it is already dead in that regard. though yoiu may check the threads on TMO about what is the real status |
| 15:06.10 | Raimu | freemangordon: The stock initrd-thingie. :) |
| 15:06.25 | zammy | and so what? freemangordon did I mistake buying a n900? |
| 15:06.39 | Raimu | Nah, depends on what you want to do with the device. :) |
| 15:06.42 | freemangordon | zammy: depends. if you are happy with it, then not |
| 15:06.48 | n900-dk | would love a 4g extension , but odds are zero :) |
| 15:06.53 | zammy | lol that's all? |
| 15:06.55 | zammy | I am happy |
| 15:06.58 | zammy | yes fucking happyu |
| 15:07.04 | freemangordon | yep, that's it |
| 15:07.24 | zammy | maybe a portable router for 4g? |
| 15:07.30 | zammy | would that work? |
| 15:07.36 | n900-dk | nah |
| 15:07.38 | freemangordon | Raimu: can't you just get it from skeiron? |
| 15:07.50 | freemangordon | ~morrors |
| 15:07.54 | freemangordon | shit |
| 15:07.57 | freemangordon | ~mirrors |
| 15:07.58 | infobot | hmm... mirror is http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/, or extras-devel.merlin1991.at - for fighting hashsum error, or see ~rmo-new |
| 15:08.10 | zammy | then we shall wait that n900 evolves it self |
| 15:08.12 | zammy | like transformer |
| 15:09.08 | freemangordon | Raimu: nogooglehttp://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/initrd-progs_0.81-7%2b0m5_armel.deb |
| 15:09.40 | Raimu | Oh, I just didn't find a place to get it from. Will try right away! |
| 15:10.08 | freemangordon | Raimu: not sure this is the correct (read last stock) version, but I guess so |
| 15:10.25 | n900-dk | zammy: As long as you didn't buy the n900 for gaming and all the new apps, you see on android and iOS. |
| 15:10.46 | freemangordon | n900-dk: "all the new apps"? |
| 15:11.10 | freemangordon | there are newer fart apps? cool :P |
| 15:11.15 | Raimu | :)))) |
| 15:11.23 | Raimu | How about that maemo sex app someone suggested on tmo |
| 15:11.30 | Raimu | Oh right, nobody programmed that :D |
| 15:11.40 | freemangordon | Raimu: honestly, I was thinking this is a real app |
| 15:11.50 | freemangordon | is it not? |
| 15:12.00 | n900-dk | well, you know - all the apps in google play and app store |
| 15:12.02 | Raimu | freemangordon: Reverting to stock initrd-stuff corrected everything. Confirmed. |
| 15:12.21 | freemangordon | ok, boo on Pali then :D |
| 15:12.23 | Raimu | Well, that's an easy cure for something people once again blamed cssu-thumb for. |
| 15:12.38 | freemangordon | Raimu: you know, never fear :P |
| 15:12.43 | Raimu | Yeah... |
| 15:13.44 | freemangordon | Raimu: though... next time... DO NOT MAKE A SYSTEM UPGRADE WITH CSSU-devel ENABLED :) |
| 15:13.59 | freemangordon | kerio: ^^^ |
| 15:14.01 | kerio | why not |
| 15:14.02 | kerio | it's fun |
| 15:14.04 | Raimu | Yep! But at least I had a general ballpark idea as to what went wrong. |
| 15:14.09 | n900-dk | especial commercial stuff, bank, goverment apps and so on will only be developed to android and ios |
| 15:14.15 | freemangordon | Raimu: yep, thanks |
| 15:14.30 | kerio | it's not like i use backupmenu anymore, anyway |
| 15:14.48 | freemangordon | kerio: why not, wasn't it a "must have"? |
| 15:15.05 | kerio | sure, but nowadays i know how to fix shit |
| 15:15.11 | freemangordon | oh |
| 15:15.17 | kerio | and besides, it won't work correctly, i have an ext4 /home |
| 15:15.24 | freemangordon | I see |
| 15:15.30 | kerio | i should probably make some backup scripts for rescueOS though, i do that manually |
| 15:15.40 | kerio | perhaps i'll call it... *backupOS* |
| 15:15.49 | Raimu | los backupos |
| 15:15.55 | freemangordon | kerio: rescueOS can be booted from uSD, correct? |
| 15:16.03 | kerio | yeah |
| 15:16.18 | kerio | but the initrd way is much cleaner |
| 15:16.23 | kerio | it's just a file in /opt/boot |
| 15:16.24 | freemangordon | ok, that's good to know. time to install u-boot I guess |
| 15:16.53 | kerio | you'll have to run it manually, if you want to run it from the uSD |
| 15:17.07 | kerio | not sure how, i can't quite grok the uboot console |
| 15:17.14 | freemangordon | like "run mmcboot"? |
| 15:17.39 | kerio | those are pre-made configurations, but idk what they need |
| 15:17.40 | freemangordon | oh, wait, I don;t need u-boot, if I screw it somehow, I can just flash it |
| 15:17.44 | kerio | that, too |
| 15:17.50 | kerio | except s/flash/load/ |
| 15:18.04 | freemangordon | yeah, that one too |
| 15:20.40 | xes | freemangordon: i have reflashed one N900 and i can't remember if there was a way to set the /sys/power/sr_vdd1_dsp_boost at boot |
| 15:21.08 | freemangordon | xes: /etc/pmconfig? |
| 15:21.12 | freemangordon | oh, wait |
| 15:21.24 | freemangordon | create a script in /etc/event.d |
| 15:21.42 | freemangordon | xes: ^^^ |
| 15:22.41 | xes | freemangordon: ok, thanks! ..but "kernel-config load" could reset it? |
| 15:23.02 | freemangordon | xes: it knows nothing about it. IIRC |
| 15:23.21 | freemangordon | I guess you should play a bti |
| 15:23.27 | freemangordon | bit even |
| 15:24.47 | xes | let's play.. ;) The problem was the usual dsp overclock and their voltages requirements not aligned with core voltage |
| 15:25.04 | freemangordon | yep |
| 15:25.06 | xes | btw, thanks! |
| 15:25.29 | zammy | n900-dk, what's the problem if n900 can support multiboot |
| 15:25.35 | zammy | and have also android |
| 15:25.45 | zammy | also all fart apps with google play |
| 15:25.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~maemo-multiboot |
| 15:25.48 | infobot | well, maemo-multiboot is deprecated, and a horrible hack. PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED |
| 15:26.03 | kerio | multiboot is a horrible concept with a horrible implementation |
| 15:26.57 | zammy | well seriously... I don't care... I am not the common customer who wants a fashionist mobile phone |
| 15:27.07 | zammy | I prefer the horrible multiboot |
| 15:27.29 | kerio | then you are wrong |
| 15:27.32 | kerio | objectively, and provably wrong |
| 15:27.40 | zammy | but I think... as you can add a lot of repository... you won't need to have google play |
| 15:27.54 | kerio | if you want to load multiple OSes, use a /bootloader/ |
| 15:27.55 | sixwheeledbeast | zammy: avoid multi-boot/Nitdroid, if you want Android get a droid device. |
| 15:28.04 | n900-dk | zammy: well, it's not a problem. I never tried nitdroid, but guess you would miss a lot of features |
| 15:28.11 | zammy | and dualboot only? |
| 15:30.00 | sixwheeledbeast | boot only Maemo this is what the N900 was designed for :) |
| 15:30.09 | zammy | yes... I know |
| 15:30.14 | zammy | so I think too |
| 15:30.22 | kerio | multiple OSes work, just don't use multiboot |
| 15:30.31 | zammy | I have read a lot of google stuff regarding n900 |
| 15:30.55 | zammy | but if tizen works...? |
| 15:30.56 | totalizator | how do you think - is it safe to have old N800 charging with an usb cable 24/7? as a photo frame etc. |
| 15:31.09 | zammy | tizen is the new open source mobile phone OS |
| 15:31.46 | sixwheeledbeast | zammy: wiki.maemo.org is your friend |
| 15:31.53 | zammy | LOL |
| 15:31.56 | kerio | i thought the n800 didn't charge via usb |
| 15:32.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | totalizator: I do that with a n810 since ~3 years |
| 15:32.19 | zammy | I will try some new update to tizen as soon as It will be possible |
| 15:32.52 | zammy | once I got tired from maemo and/or maemo is dead I will try tizen on n900 |
| 15:32.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | also what kerio said |
| 15:33.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | (I'm using the barrel plug charger) |
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| 15:34.04 | totalizator | DocScrutinizer05: omg, ty! exactly what I wanted to hear |
| 15:34.54 | n900-dk | zammy: IF it will be possible ;) My guess is it never will |
| 15:35.42 | zammy | explain why please |
| 15:35.50 | zammy | I am waiting for it... I guess all |
| 15:37.17 | n900-dk | well, just my gut feeling :) |
| 15:38.02 | zammy | look... I am pretty sure as long as you would be generally able to install ubuntu 12.04 on it... you can install ever tizen... |
| 15:38.17 | zammy | *even |
| 15:39.21 | n900-dk | sur, but will it work? |
| 15:39.29 | n900-dk | s/sur/sure/ |
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| 15:45.22 | sixwheeledbeast | zammy, how do you expect to link all the closed blobs together? It maybe made to sort of work, but what's the point. |
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| 15:47.10 | zammy | sixwheeledbeast, I don't expect anything... I am waiting for my n900 to come between my hands... then I can continue to dream after played for a while with it |
| 15:48.26 | kerio | how much did you pay for it? |
| 15:50.33 | sixwheeledbeast | dream being the operative word... |
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| 15:53.52 | zammy | I payed 140€ |
| 15:53.55 | zammy | but used |
| 15:54.03 | kerio | sounds about right |
| 15:54.55 | zammy | I am glad you think that |
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| 15:57.33 | sixwheeledbeast | does sound ok, have you checked all the hardware? |
| 15:58.09 | zammy | yes all included |
| 15:58.34 | zammy | it's not cool like a hackerbox but it's a standard and original n900 and with all accessories inside |
| 15:59.03 | zammy | and I took time to make him shoot more photos to look at... before to accept the deal |
| 15:59.17 | sixwheeledbeast | sorry I mean the devices "features" i.e modem, ir, wifi, slider ok, not a copy etc etc |
| 15:59.33 | zammy | it's not fake |
| 15:59.42 | zammy | it's as new |
| 16:00.08 | zammy | I spent enough words... |
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| 16:01.30 | n900-dk | zammy: What phone will your upcoming n900 replace? |
| 16:01.37 | zammy | idk |
| 16:01.57 | zammy | I don't think it already exists |
| 16:02.09 | sixwheeledbeast | good, there are a good few fake copies in circulation and probably and equal amount of genuine one's with issues. |
| 16:02.28 | zammy | we will see |
| 16:02.39 | n900-dk | I meant, what phone do you hav today :) |
| 16:02.47 | zammy | oh... |
| 16:02.56 | zammy | I have a nokia 5800 xpress music |
| 16:03.37 | zammy | it makes a lot of stuff... really satisfiable... |
| 16:04.05 | zammy | customizable... |
| 16:04.47 | zammy | I am interested to customizable features about phones... that's my purpose on buying this n900 |
| 16:05.08 | sixwheeledbeast | you will like Maemo then coming from a 5800 |
| 16:05.09 | n900-dk | aha |
| 16:05.38 | zammy | my brother lost his own phone and so I will gift my xpress music to my bro while I will have a cool n900 |
| 16:05.56 | zammy | I am pretty about that... |
| 16:06.04 | zammy | *sure |
| 16:07.18 | zammy | I think all ppl who buys a nokia wants the customizable stuff... instead now... since nokia has this fucking lumia with windows mobile inside... as OS WHAT THE FUCK |
| 16:09.04 | zammy | I am praying day and night that God will make nokia more open source and ever less windows immobilized |
| 16:10.27 | SpeedEvil | not in the short term at least |
| 16:10.54 | zammy | ? |
| 16:11.02 | sixwheeledbeast | your not the only one there ... but yet again another dream |
| 16:11.13 | zammy | lol |
| 16:11.24 | SpeedEvil | Nokia has tied their fortunes firmly to windows |
| 16:11.33 | zammy | omg |
| 16:11.34 | SpeedEvil | however insane that may be |
| 16:11.39 | zammy | OMFG |
| 16:12.18 | SpeedEvil | #jollamobile is comprised of some of the open source people at Nokia |
| 16:12.40 | SpeedEvil | who are announcing hardware soon |
| 16:14.04 | n900-dk | soon[tm] |
| 16:14.38 | zammy | then no hope to get a new open source OS made for nokia... right? |
| 16:14.46 | zammy | samsung has its tizen |
| 16:15.41 | zammy | I will betray nokia for samsung in future after nokia n900 then |
| 16:15.57 | zammy | let's hope as later as possible |
| 16:15.58 | SpeedEvil | I would be surprised to see any new open source release from Nokia before someone buys it |
| 16:16.39 | SpeedEvil | the fundamental problem is that the duopoly is now even further entrenched. |
| 16:17.24 | SpeedEvil | when the n900 came out. or when the n9 did, there were several more OSs around, not just (mostly) two |
| 16:18.33 | zammy | yes then smart tv too and then born the google glass so then all to focus on the fucking google/samsung company |
| 16:20.14 | zammy | is the opensource well payed? |
| 16:20.31 | zammy | somehow I think it's all a 1984 |
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| 16:28.05 | SpeedEvil | open source payment is a fun issue |
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| 16:52.12 | n900-dk | DocScrutinizer05: Yah, my gmo login now works on mo, so syncjob seems to work now, thanks to you and your tech guys! Still not able to get vote token, but guess it's because of 0 karma. I will just follow the elections from the sideline :) |
| 16:58.07 | kerio | n900-dk: this election is open to all (for voting) |
| 16:58.09 | kerio | Woodya: ^ |
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| 16:59.36 | n900-dk | ok, then I will have to find someone to pester with non-working get-token.php |
| 17:00.32 | n900-dk | I will try with an email to MC maillist |
| 17:00.58 | hoph0p | Hi, I remember having read on tmo that somehow it is possible to start/stop charging from the command line, just can't find it anymore. Does anyone remember any details? |
| 17:01.42 | hoph0p | I'm running kp52 and latest cssu-thumb, btw |
| 17:02.17 | Macer | ugh |
| 17:02.26 | Macer | this fmobi dev just pretty much "stole" my $2 |
| 17:02.35 | Macer | with this non-functional non-maintained garbage |
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| 17:02.40 | Macer | will pirate from now on |
| 17:02.41 | Macer | lol |
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| 17:08.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | n900-dk: send a mail to council@m.o |
| 17:08.36 | Macer | who do you send mail to in order to have an app removed from the ovi store? |
| 17:08.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | n900-dk: see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1338413#post1338413 |
| 17:08.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | and #1 in there |
| 17:10.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, this: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1334488&postcount=1 |
| 17:11.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Eligibility criteria will likely remain the same as they have been, in as much as feasible. There is, however, a modifying circumstance: *.maemo.org account registration and login has been broken for months, until recently; furthermore, karma is /still/ broken, with a significant number of members missing a significant amouht of karma.<< |
| 17:12.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>we think it is infeasible to manually count the karma for every user who might be eligible to vote. So unless there is a serious volunteer effort to calculate everyone's karma by hand, we will treat all maemo.org accounts older than 3 months as eligible for this election only<< |
| 17:13.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>If people with newer accounts think they ought to be eligible to vote (for example, you would have registered earlier but it was impossible to do so at the time because the system was broken), please contact the Council by either responding to this message or, preferably, by emailing council@maemo.org<< |
| 17:15.52 | kerio | hoph0p: it's not that easy |
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| 17:16.34 | hoph0p | kerio: It doesn't have to be easy :) |
| 17:17.04 | sixwheeledbeast | Macer: don't use ovi store especially for non-free apps |
| 17:17.14 | kerio | either you start using bleeding edge stuff (aka, Pali's bme replacement) |
| 17:17.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think you need to specify your purpose for that |
| 17:17.27 | Macer | sixwheeledbeast: yeah i know that now |
| 17:17.28 | Macer | after losing my $2 |
| 17:17.32 | Macer | never agagin lol |
| 17:17.35 | kerio | or you `stop bme` and then keep spamming bq24k via i2cset, to prevent it from starting the emergency charge |
| 17:17.43 | Macer | then people wonder why the small devs don' tget anywhere |
| 17:17.50 | hoph0p | DocScrutinizer05: me? |
| 17:17.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 17:17.56 | Macer | because they make people pay for shit they don't maintain |
| 17:18.15 | sixwheeledbeast | but I |
| 17:18.18 | sixwheeledbeast | oops |
| 17:18.28 | kerio | fwiw you don't really need the whole bme replacement |
| 17:18.46 | Macer | sixwheeledbeast: is there even anybody to complain to? can you write to nokia and have them remove fmobi from the ovi store? |
| 17:18.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I don't see why you need to stop charging either |
| 17:18.54 | Macer | i mean it's pretty much someone selling a broken app |
| 17:19.05 | kerio | just stop bme, modprobe bq2415x_charger, echo off > /sys/class/power_supply/bq24150a/mode |
| 17:19.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | errr |
| 17:19.17 | kerio | but really, why do you need to stop charging? |
| 17:19.21 | hoph0p | I have a 'battery pack' (by sistech, in case anyone wonders, sorry, no link handy atm) that doesn't charge my n900 right away |
| 17:19.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | so? |
| 17:19.46 | hoph0p | so I would like to /start/ charging manually :) |
| 17:19.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | haha |
| 17:19.56 | kerio | ...wat |
| 17:19.58 | hoph0p | Or at least try if that works |
| 17:20.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | starting != stopping |
| 17:20.16 | sixwheeledbeast | Macer: I don't think there maintained any more, if they are it's nothing to do with community |
| 17:20.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | go for my simple charger script |
| 17:20.53 | hoph0p | I'll try to explain |
| 17:21.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/charge21_500mA-USBlimit__UNTESTED.sh |
| 17:22.04 | Macer | sixwheeledbeast: ok. i will see if i can contact nokia |
| 17:22.26 | hoph0p | If I plug that batpack in the n900 sometimes detects an USB event and offers that pc suite selection dialog |
| 17:22.33 | sixwheeledbeast | Macer: good luck. |
| 17:22.36 | hoph0p | But it never actually starts charging |
| 17:22.44 | Macer | sixwheeledbeast: hey... better than doing nothing |
| 17:22.52 | Macer | and letting another gang of chumps buy a lemon app |
| 17:23.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's because of that battery pack has charger signalling for iPhone |
| 17:23.27 | sixwheeledbeast | I agree something should be done. Go for it. |
| 17:23.43 | kerio | hoph0p: bme replacement or that script will allow you to "force" the charging |
| 17:23.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | hoph0p: yep, what kerio said |
| 17:24.05 | kerio | which is probably what you want |
| 17:24.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 17:24.15 | kerio | unless your batpack complains about that |
| 17:24.47 | hoph0p | Now if I connect a google nexus to that pack, and then quickly remove the nexus and connect the n900 before the batpack switches itself off, it charges the n900 |
| 17:24.58 | hoph0p | Ok, I will give it a try |
| 17:25.22 | kerio | sounds fun |
| 17:25.31 | kerio | hm, i wonder if a "dumb" cable could fix it |
| 17:26.01 | hoph0p | It also works if I first charge the n900 from a wall charger, then quickly switch to the batpack... |
| 17:27.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | battery pack switches off? |
| 17:27.27 | freemangordon | kerio: most probably he is using "dumb" cable, that is why it does not work |
| 17:27.43 | kerio | freemangordon: a "dumb" cable won't let the n900 detect anything but a short on D+- |
| 17:27.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, your battery pack is too braindead smart |
| 17:28.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | charging on N900 will "stop" every now and then, for a few seconds, particularly at start where it calibrates to battery state |
| 17:29.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you rpack detects that as end-of-charging and switches down, too bad but not N900's fault |
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| 17:30.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | you could use a powered USB hub and connect a second consumer to make battery pack detect load during initial phase of N900 charging |
| 17:30.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | MEH!! |
| 17:31.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | I hate it when they do this |
| 17:38.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | mmph, 8 short of 4k on tmo |
| 17:38.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | should I cool the champagne? |
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| 17:44.24 | n900-dk | Did any of you guys find a (new) way to make grooveshark work on the n900? |
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| 17:47.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | n900-dk: you've seen my comments about eligibility to vote, above? |
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| 17:49.39 | hoph0p | bloody h*ll, this wifi sucks |
| 17:49.52 | n900-dk | DocScrutinizer05: Yes, just follow up on the comments now. You still think I have eligibility to vote - I just created my gmo/mo account yesterday, so I don't expect to have karma |
| 17:51.11 | hoph0p | so, I was saying that charging works with your script, DocScrutinizer05, dunno if that came through |
| 17:51.20 | hoph0p | thanks a lot! :) |
| 17:52.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | n900-dk: please re-read |
| 17:52.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | n900-dk: we ignore karma |
| 17:52.39 | hoph0p | re: dumb cable, I'm using the nokia-supplied one for lack of a dumber one |
| 17:53.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | we however *will* do some checks to rule out fake identity duplicate registrations |
| 17:53.18 | n900-dk | DocScrutinizer05: ok |
| 17:54.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | so links to other maemo related locations where you showed up before would help a lot |
| 17:54.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | e.g tmo account |
| 17:54.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | hoph0p: nice that it works |
| 17:55.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | hoph0p: with "dumb cable" kerio meant a cable with D+- (white and green wire) shorted |
| 17:56.23 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: is it against the rules to make parents and friends register? |
| 17:56.48 | hoph0p | yepp, I don't have access to one here, unfortunately |
| 17:57.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, but they most probably can't prove they are around for >3 months, and thus will not receive a token mail for vote |
| 17:57.10 | kerio | k |
| 17:57.11 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: kerio: my bad then, I though "dumb cable" is the one that DON'T have D+/- connected |
| 17:57.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | np |
| 17:57.50 | freemangordon | as I would name the "connected" on a "charger cable" or something |
| 17:58.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah |
| 17:58.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | I didn't use that term, but I read it as that |
| 17:59.08 | hoph0p | so I guess the script will stop charging if the battery is full? What if I kill the script. Charging appears to continue... |
| 17:59.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | no |
| 17:59.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | it stops after 30s |
| 18:00.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | and yes, charging stops once battery is full AND you don't have too high system power consumption |
| 18:01.03 | hoph0p | Ok, great |
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| 18:01.29 | n900-dk | DocScrutinizer05: anyway, how often will the gmo->mo user syncjob run now? Guess I should follow your advice and stick to the same username across all mo |
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| 18:01.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | however check the script (I just don't know off top of my head), you might need to `stop bme` manually before starting script |
| 18:02.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | sync job now runs once a day, at 2:00UTC |
| 18:02.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | we're tweaking it still |
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| 18:04.09 | hoph0p | Yes, it doesn't stop bme. What if I didn't stop it manually? :) |
| 18:04.40 | kerio | shit would break |
| 18:04.43 | kerio | but not that bad |
| 18:04.47 | n900-dk | cool, maybe it could check for new users every ~10 mins or so, and only sync if any changes |
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| 18:06.23 | jacekowski | it's syncing more than just new users |
| 18:06.43 | sixwheeledbeast | Raimu: you beat me to it :) |
| 18:07.04 | sixwheeledbeast | to many are using cssu-devel as software updates... grr |
| 18:07.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | n900-dk: that's one of the options we evaluate |
| 18:08.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | jacekowski: good point, it also needs to run when a user joins a project |
| 18:08.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | aka group |
| 18:09.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | catching all those triggers on garage might get tricky, we should follow the diff approach |
| 18:09.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | creating the csv is lightweight, diff/cmp of two csv as well |
| 18:10.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | should catch all changes |
| 18:10.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | monster job only runds when csv's differ |
| 18:10.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | runs* |
| 18:11.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | if they don't, all that's done is creating new csv (on garage, right?) and a utterly lightweight cmp |
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| 18:23.44 | loin | does anyone know where the sms database is stored? |
| 18:24.26 | Pali | loin, looks into some .rtcomm folder |
| 18:24.37 | Pali | it is in sqlite database |
| 18:24.58 | loin | i only have .rtcom-accounts |
| 18:25.04 | loin | which has an empty .conf file |
| 18:25.05 | loin | that's it |
| 18:25.20 | qwazix | loin, see #harmattan |
| 18:26.01 | qwazix | <qwazix> loin maybe try searching for tracker sparql commands |
| 18:26.04 | loin | thanks qwazix, didn't have much luck there :( |
| 18:26.17 | n900-dk | loin: you don't have /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/ ? |
| 18:26.43 | loin | n900-dk, nope |
| 18:27.14 | Pali | loin, n900 device? |
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| 18:28.15 | loin | Pali, n9 |
| 18:28.24 | Pali | loin, bad channel |
| 18:28.28 | Pali | this is for n900 |
| 18:28.43 | Pali | ask on #harmattan |
| 18:29.16 | qwazix | I do wonder however why .rtcom-accounts is still there but empty on harmattan... |
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| 18:30.28 | Pali | maybe old harmattan version used some maemo rtcom libraries... |
| 18:30.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | eventsdb? |
| 18:30.47 | Pali | and they forgot to remove all files/dirs |
| 18:31.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, bad channel |
| 18:31.45 | Pali | has somebody fast C function for converting uint32_t with rgb565 color to rgb888? |
| 18:31.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | recalls why he usually reads backscroll from bottom to top |
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| 18:32.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I've seen sth, plai. But that's ages ago |
| 18:32.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | pali* |
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| 18:34.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms893078.aspx dunno if it's useful |
| 18:35.07 | kerio | Pali: well, isn't it just a bit (sic!) of bit manipulation? |
| 18:36.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 18:36.18 | Pali | kerio, it should be, but I do not know how are that bits stored in rgb565 |
| 18:36.31 | kerio | ...5 for red, 6 for green, 5 for blue? |
| 18:36.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 18:36.40 | Pali | and order and mapping? |
| 18:37.13 | Pali | on input you have 5 bits and on output you have 8... so what to do? |
| 18:37.53 | kerio | multiply by 8? |
| 18:38.12 | Pali | what? |
| 18:38.29 | kerio | divide by 2**5, and multiply by 2**8 |
| 18:38.54 | kerio | there's not really much else you can do, you only have 5 bits of information |
| 18:40.01 | kerio | ok, it's not precisely that actually |
| 18:40.07 | kerio | you should multiply by 255 and divide by 31 |
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| 18:41.40 | kerio | Pali: http://stackoverflow.com/a/9069480 |
| 18:41.41 | kerio | this seems fast |
| 18:42.19 | kerio | MUL, ADD and SHR |
| 18:46.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | rgb888 = (redmask << 8) | ((redmask<<3)&0x070000) |
| 18:46.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ |
| 18:46.16 | Pali | ok, but I have one uint16_t var |
| 18:46.27 | kerio | what's redmask? |
| 18:46.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | nfc |
| 18:46.41 | kerio | useful! |
| 18:46.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds much like gibberish |
| 18:47.17 | kerio | i stand by my link |
| 18:47.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | that is from your link, just 2 posts down |
| 18:47.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | 1 |
| 18:47.52 | kerio | i liked to an answer |
| 18:47.59 | kerio | *linked |
| 18:48.13 | kerio | you're the one that went all "ooh i'm going to use my SCROLLBAR" |
| 18:48.32 | kerio | Pali: grab the most significant 5 bits |
| 18:48.46 | kerio | it's like v >> 11 |
| 18:49.26 | kerio | green is v >> 5 & 63 |
| 18:49.34 | kerio | blue is v & 31 |
| 18:50.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: use a array[65535] LUT |
| 18:50.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ultrafast |
| 18:50.57 | kerio | hahahah |
| 18:51.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | straightforward |
| 18:51.09 | kerio | "ram access" and "fast" in the same phrase |
| 18:51.14 | kerio | you're so funny, joerg |
| 18:53.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, depending on your CPU the 128k will even fit into L2 cache |
| 18:53.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | even L1 on some CPUs |
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| 19:07.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+help |
| 19:07.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~status |
| 19:07.51 | infobot | Since Wed Apr 10 18:42:41 2013, there have been 29 modifications, 501 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 189 commands. I have been awake for 14d 25m 10s this session, and currently reference 119038 factoids. I'm using about 24056 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 3777.5/72.71 child 0.01/0 |
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| 19:22.05 | Drathir | anyone know korean or similar languages to check this ? http://wap.st1.ucweb.com/files/UCBrowser/zh-cn/999/UCBrowser_V1.0.0.102_meego_pf59_(Build11112221).deb |
| 19:26.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonders how the F to actually *edit* a page like http:/maemo.org |
| 19:26.42 | Sosica | that "zh-cn" means it's chinese... and it's meego, so try asking in #harmattan |
| 19:26.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | particularly footer there |
| 19:26.50 | Sosica | ^ |
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| 19:31.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: any hints on ^^^ that? |
| 19:32.54 | thedead1440 | Drathir: that is a n9 browser and i remember it was released when the n9 was just out; pretty useless at that time... |
| 19:32.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~owner |
| 19:32.55 | infobot | TimRiker is my owner |
| 19:33.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~infobot |
| 19:33.10 | infobot | i guess infobot is me, http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ // The original infobot is no more, it has been replaced by the latest version of blootbot, accompanied by a rename back to infobot // apt/ibot/infobot/purl is now an infobot run by TimRiker |
| 19:33.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+chaninfo |
| 19:33.42 | infobot | 125/125 channels, 5275 users, 3896 unique: #debian/1378, #kde/436, #gsoc/405, #maemo/245, #asterisk/196, #wowuidev/146, #oe/144, #meego/131, #harmattan/129, #wowace/117, #arm-netbook/114, #cubieboard/108, #utah/94, #wowhead/88, #webos-internals/85, #openmoko/71, #openmoko-cdevel/68, #bzflag/67, #tomcat/67, #uclibc/57, #maemo-ssu/53, #edev/52, #curseforge/51, #asterisk-dev/50, #htc-linux/47, #n9/46, #sc2mapster/46, #/45, #uphpu/43, #slug/31, ... |
| 19:34.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ 4k thanks |
| 19:35.56 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, no. |
| 19:36.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-S |
| 19:36.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | CMS, my ass |
| 19:36.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | midgard, devil's ass |
| 19:38.20 | Win7Mac | CONGRATS! |
| 19:38.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe |
| 19:38.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | <---karmawhore |
| 19:38.56 | Win7Mac | LOL... |
| 19:39.16 | thedead1440 | indeed DocScrutinizer05 compares thanks ratio like noone else :D |
| 19:39.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | at times I been at 7/post avrg |
| 19:39.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | warfare beats me hands down, with 10 or more |
| 19:39.48 | thedead1440 | haha i was going to say that |
| 19:39.53 | thedead1440 | your kitchen beat me ;) |
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| 19:45.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | kitchen!!! makes me glare out of my kitchen window into our garden and watch my friend, neighbour, and landlord doing BBQ. |
| 19:45.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | HUNGER!!! |
| 19:46.21 | sixwheeledbeast | mmm, charred chicken... |
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| 19:46.39 | warfare | So, get some dead meat and put it on the bbq :) |
| 19:46.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | still has a steak in the freezer |
| 19:47.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | in winter I already pondered roasting it with my hot air gun |
| 19:47.37 | warfare | So, out with you, get some beer & steak. |
| 19:48.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | cya o/ |
| 19:48.09 | sixwheeledbeast | ciao |
| 19:49.02 | warfare | :) |
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| 19:51.06 | thedead1440 | finally he goes :D |
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| 19:52.20 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: solder your steak! |
| 19:52.52 | Drathir | thedead1440: oh thanks for info |
| 19:53.32 | Drathir | lol thats must be a joke... http://wap.sh1.ucweb.com/index.php?action=PackInfo&bid=354&SESSID=s7qs76jtf7mn7ek69312mvmgd2&product=ucbrowser&lang=english&model=23208 |
| 19:53.47 | sixwheeledbeast | he'll be back... |
| 19:54.15 | thedead1440 | Drathir: lol |
| 19:55.37 | Pali | ok, now colors in text2screen should be fixed |
| 19:55.46 | kerio | Pali: so it was your fault! |
| 19:55.57 | Pali | going to push updated deb package into cssu-devel |
| 19:56.13 | Drathir | hrhr |
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| 19:56.46 | Drathir | matters its work again... |
| 19:56.56 | Pali | kerio, I did not know that text2screen needs as param color in rgb565 format and not in rgb888 |
| 19:57.23 | kerio | why would that lead to backupmenu getting stuck, though? |
| 19:58.17 | Pali | no idea |
| 19:58.25 | Pali | but I saw bad colors |
| 19:58.37 | Drathir | how stable is thumb or devel tree? |
| 19:58.42 | Pali | and now colors should be same |
| 19:58.48 | Pali | as in orig version |
| 19:59.14 | kerio | Drathir: cssu-devel is not a cssu flavour |
| 19:59.16 | kerio | it's just a repo |
| 19:59.29 | kerio | it's as stable as something called "devel" |
| 20:00.44 | Drathir | or maybe ask that how often on devel or thumb after update device cant boot? |
| 20:00.52 | Drathir | or that sytuation dosnt happen? |
| 20:05.04 | kerio | it happened once, that i can remember |
| 20:05.09 | kerio | but it was fixed shortly |
| 20:05.16 | kerio | *shortly afterwards |
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| 20:35.18 | Drathir | kerio: oh thats nice enough to check how to move to devel repository... |
| 20:35.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | Drathir: cssu-devel is considered full of flawed stuff that is still under heavy development and generally not working |
| 20:35.43 | kerio | cssu devel is for internal use only |
| 20:35.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | exactly |
| 20:36.07 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: go the hell away, you have a steak to eat |
| 20:36.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, that's frozen at -22°C |
| 20:36.41 | kerio | EXCUSES |
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| 20:40.18 | thedead1440 | kerio: +1 |
| 20:40.22 | sixwheeledbeast | -22 that's one hell of a frezzer. |
| 20:40.27 | thedead1440 | +b him :p |
| 20:40.40 | kerio | that's not a freezer, that's germany |
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| 20:42.16 | sixwheeledbeast | a BBQ in -22, no thanks. |
| 20:53.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | makes me recall i've seen a bottle in that freezer |
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| 20:54.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed, a forgotten bottle with a glassfull of frozen Absolut |
| 20:55.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | cheers |
| 20:55.30 | kerio | oh, so the vodka is ok, but the steak is not? |
| 20:55.35 | kerio | :\ |
| 20:56.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | shaking it a little makes it flow out of the bottle like ketchup |
| 20:56.32 | thedead1440 | lol |
| 20:57.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually hardly 20ml |
| 20:57.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | but tasty |
| 20:57.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | and gone |
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| 21:30.24 | Drathir | is any alternative to run java midlet on n900 except microemulator? |
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| 21:32.38 | Sc0rpius | I don't think there's another J2ME implementation |
| 21:32.45 | Sc0rpius | than MicroEmulator |
| 21:33.07 | bef0rd | what about that other project? |
| 21:33.19 | bef0rd | by david something |
| 21:33.52 | bef0rd | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81969 |
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| 21:51.07 | Woody14619 | Drathir, there is also icedtea... Thats Java though, not J2ME. Depending what you're looking for, that may help? |
| 21:51.21 | Woody14619 | I think the package is icedtea6? |
| 21:51.49 | Woody14619 | I use it to run my java accounting program on my N900. |
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| 21:56.51 | kerio | i wonder how badly a minecraft server would run, on a n900 |
| 21:57.28 | Drathir | Woody14619: thanks i check also that... i looking something for .jar programs... interesting that on 6230 thats programs also works - little old phone:p |
| 21:58.28 | Drathir | kerio: not possible i think minecraft need if good remembr min 2gb of ram 3 recconmend:/ |
| 21:58.30 | Woody14619 | That's J2ME. I have a 6230i before the N900 as well. :) J2ME is a long-lost format these days. |
| 21:58.49 | bef0rd | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.51 | Woody14619 | kerio, someone already did it as I recall, but it was quite slow. |
| 21:58.58 | freemangordon | Woody14619: you were faster :). yep, this is j2me |
| 21:59.17 | Woody14619 | bef0rd, IF the 6230 ran it, it was J2ME. ;) |
| 21:59.28 | Drathir | bef0rd: thanks this app also check... |
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| 21:59.56 | freemangordon | bef0rd: phoneme if just fine, I was using opera with it, it is slightly slower than native |
| 22:00.03 | freemangordon | s/if/is/ |
| 22:00.16 | Drathir | microemulator works but keybind works not in all places... |
| 22:00.41 | bef0rd | yea, it's a nice project, it's good that davyp spent some time on porting it to the n9/n900 |
| 22:00.46 | Drathir | and yes that proppably j2me... |
| 22:00.59 | freemangordon | not probably, for sure |
| 22:01.15 | freemangordon | ooh, 6230, I got that one too :) |
| 22:01.20 | Drathir | ok good to know |
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| 22:01.37 | freemangordon | the wone with rotating screaan, ain't? |
| 22:01.41 | freemangordon | *one |
| 22:01.46 | freemangordon | shit :( |
| 22:01.57 | Woody14619 | Well, you could.. it was 128x128. One of the candybar phones. |
| 22:02.14 | freemangordon | hmm, maybe it was 6260 |
| 22:02.15 | Drathir | lol i have 6230i better screen res in use now too :p second number on it... |
| 22:02.19 | Woody14619 | But it didn't move... :) Short of you twisting it. ;) |
| 22:02.29 | freemangordon | yep, 6260 |
| 22:02.33 | Drathir | thats a rock phone... |
| 22:03.04 | Woody14619 | Yup. Mine finally gave up after 7 years... stopped charging it's battery. But you could swap out w/ external charger. :) |
| 22:03.29 | freemangordon | yeah, 6260, http://cellphones.about.com/library/bl-pi-nokia_6260.htm |
| 22:03.32 | Woody14619 | Used the same battery as the OpenMoko a well. |
| 22:03.49 | sixwheeledbeast | kerio Pali: Reports are the colors are fixed but backupmenu still freezes at chrooting. |
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| 22:04.34 | Woody14619 | So, mine still works.. I use it when I travel mainly... Runs 7+ days on a charge usually... Take a spare battery & a charger... done. :) |
| 22:05.45 | Drathir | Woody14619: try to alcohol clean charger pins... |
| 22:06.24 | Woody14619 | Did... no luck... The adapters still talk to it, and it know's it's getting power. It just doesn't charge. |
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| 22:07.31 | Woody14619 | Says charging, but never does, and dies... But batteries (and their pins, both sides) are all fine.. so. Something dead inside. And really, it gave me 7 years (plus some). More than expected for a phone. |
| 22:08.12 | Pali | can somebody debug that backupmenu? |
| 22:08.12 | Pali | *what* freezes? |
| 22:08.12 | Pali | text2screen crashing? |
| 22:08.12 | Pali | or what? |
| 22:08.28 | Drathir | Woody14619: yes mine works with bombus gprs connection little more than 12h ...connection on all the time... |
| 22:10.10 | Drathir | Woody14619: charger broken or battery if say that charging... |
| 22:10.27 | sixwheeledbeast | Pali: All I know is installing initrd-progs from devel causes the device to hang on loading backupmenu. |
| 22:11.16 | Drathir | my 3210 work only old chargers dont like more of new chargers... |
| 22:12.13 | Drathir | Woody14619: for old nokias 7 years is like child :p |
| 22:13.17 | Drathir | new nokia phones i think dont life 7years in one peace :/ |
| 22:13.21 | freemangordon | Pali: I guess you can ask Raimu for help(debugging). Or Reinob |
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| 23:06.11 | FIQ | hmm, I wonder something |
| 23:06.31 | FIQ | when I try to play stuff with mplayer, it works fine, but I always get this: "[AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: No such file or directory" |
| 23:06.41 | FIQ | why? |
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| 23:24.35 | eccerr0r | /dev/dsp is for traditional OSS system, thought the N900 uses pulseaudio/alsa |
| 23:27.06 | nox- | it does, the message is harmless |
| 23:27.47 | eccerr0r | so it was probably just checking all the devices one by one and printing the warning out just because it felt like it? |
| 23:27.56 | nox- | pretty much |
| 23:28.00 | eccerr0r | lame |
| 23:28.01 | eccerr0r | heh |
| 23:28.57 | nox- | whoever ported it probably didnt change the default audio device to pa... |
| 23:34.23 | eccerr0r | and I wonder what I can do with a Nokia 5230 that also has a bad charging circuit, phone works fine otherwise... |
| 23:38.13 | nox- | second battery + external charger? |
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