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| 00:12.36 | ron0062000 | any information on DropN900? |
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| 00:21.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ron0062000: mode +1? |
| 00:22.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ron0062000: what do you mean? |
| 00:22.13 | Drathir | mode +1? |
| 00:22.49 | Drathir | lol sorry.... |
| 00:22.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ron0062000: you can ask me almost everything about n900 xchat |
| 00:23.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I don't know what you want to do |
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| 00:24.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw you might want to use my xchat config files for a basis, some users found them useful |
| 00:24.53 | ron0062000 | well when i log in it says set mode to +1 with n900 |
| 00:24.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/xchat/ |
| 00:25.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably you mean "ron0062000 has set mode +i" |
| 00:26.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | like that >> [2013-04-21 05:03:41] [Mode] You have set personal modes: +i << |
| 00:26.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | right? |
| 00:27.10 | ron0062000 | i don't know how to set mode |
| 00:27.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | why do you want to set mode? |
| 00:27.43 | ron0062000 | it tell me to |
| 00:27.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, it tells you that you already did |
| 00:28.06 | ron0062000 | o |
| 00:28.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | the mode is lowercase I |
| 00:29.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | gh I jkl |
| 00:29.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | India |
| 00:29.22 | ron0062000 | will yahoo mail work next mouth on n900 |
| 00:29.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | not 1 |
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| 00:33.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ron0062000: you can get general help with /help |
| 00:33.24 | Drathir | have user +Ziw channel +Cfjnt |
| 00:33.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ron0062000: and help about modes you can set, with /help umode |
| 00:34.08 | ron0062000 | what about yahoo mail? |
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| 00:34.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | no idea |
| 00:34.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | what is with yahoo mail? |
| 00:35.11 | ron0062000 | it was on phonescoop.com |
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| 00:36.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | aha |
| 00:38.31 | ron0062000 | aha yes aha no? |
| 00:39.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | aha nfc |
| 00:39.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~question |
| 00:39.41 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, question is If you have a question and want people to give useful answers, make sure you have read this first: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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| 00:45.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>when starting xchat it prints "You have set personal modes: +i" - what does this mean? What do I need to do about it? I have googled but couldn't find an answer<< |
| 00:45.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ^^^ good question |
| 00:46.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | >> how do u set the mode to +1 in x-chat on n900 << |
| 00:46.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ^^^ not so good question |
| 00:47.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>will yahoo mail work next mouth on n900 - it was on phonescoop.com << |
| 00:47.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ^^^ poor question |
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| 02:29.38 | fil | how does one get hold of scratchbox these days, or is there a new approach for building maemo packages now? (it seems that all the links for scratchbox I have stumbled across on the wiki are dead) |
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| 02:40.01 | bef0rd | there's a mirror |
| 02:40.03 | bef0rd | I can't remember |
| 02:40.16 | bef0rd | search maemo logs for scratchbox.org |
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| 03:03.26 | nox- | ~skeiron |
| 03:03.27 | infobot | well, skeiron is the semi-official backup and emergency standin for all internet borne maemo resources: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 |
| 03:03.41 | nox- | maybe that has it |
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| 03:34.14 | DocScrutinizer51 | what's wrong with scratchbox.org? |
| 03:37.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~ip scratchbox.org |
| 03:37.32 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~botsnack |
| 03:37.32 | infobot | aw, gee, DocScrutinizer51 |
| 03:37.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~dns scratchbox.org |
| 03:38.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~scratchbox |
| 03:38.39 | infobot | somebody said scratchbox was a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/ |
| 03:39.34 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~factinfo scratchbox |
| 03:39.34 | infobot | scratchbox -- created by andersee <~andersee@codepoet.org> at Mon Feb 9 23:58:38 2004 (3359 days); it has been requested 9 times, last by DocScrutinizer51, 55s ago. |
| 03:42.33 | DocScrutinizer51 | I really wonder what "al links seem to be dead" means |
| 03:44.20 | bef0rd | I only get "it works here" |
| 03:44.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | ?? |
| 03:45.49 | bef0rd | This is the default web page for this server. |
| 03:45.52 | bef0rd | want screenshot? |
| 03:46.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1336508#post1336508 |
| 03:46.45 | bef0rd | ah |
| 03:47.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://scratchbox.org/debian/ |
| 03:47.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>jOERG 20130405<< ;-D |
| 03:48.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'll change this for a proper notice, eventually. i promise |
| 03:48.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | or ask thedead1440 to fix this mess, he's scratchbox maintainer |
| 03:50.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~scratchbox is also hosted by maemo.org now, maintainer thedead1440 |
| 03:50.52 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 03:51.58 | DocScrutinizer51 | meh, sleep is overrated anyway |
| 03:52.12 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~scratchbox |
| 03:52.13 | infobot | it has been said that scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, or hosted by maemo.org now, maintainer thedead1440 |
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| 03:57.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | anyway, if anybody has a html mirror of scratchbox.org, pretty please share it, the backups we got are missing that completely. Also the wiki |
| 03:57.58 | DocScrutinizer51 | also mail archives |
| 03:58.37 | DocScrutinizer51 | :-/ |
| 03:59.12 | DocScrutinizer51 | the original maintainer been not that cooperative |
| 04:02.07 | bef0rd | http://web.archive.org/web/20120929030556/http://scratchbox.org/ |
| 04:02.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | oooh, great |
| 04:03.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | thanks |
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| 07:41.21 | thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer51: I've added a one-liner to scratchbox.org index.html to point to downloads at ~/debian |
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| 11:51.27 | amospalla | hi guys, is it safe to recalibrate battery with kp52? mine has 1050 mAh full charge, and n900 starts complaining about low battery when it is still at 550 mAh or so |
| 12:01.44 | kerio | of course it's safe |
| 12:01.49 | kerio | it won't do you any good, but it's safe |
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| 12:02.11 | kerio | unless you're using the bme replacement, in which case you should already know how bq27k works and how it's used |
| 12:08.29 | amospalla | I've got bme-rx-51 installed, can I benefit from recallibration? |
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| 12:11.45 | rikanee | amospalia: if your battery meter isn't calibrated, it helps a bit. |
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| 12:12.05 | kerio | amospalla: you've got what installed? |
| 12:12.16 | rikanee | (assuming your battery is slightly worn out, and thus lost some charge) |
| 12:14.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | pali, write up a goddamn wiki page about bme replacement, so users have a *chance* to understand what it's all about! |
| 12:15.16 | amospalla | kerio: it is a package from 2010, maybe not related |
| 12:15.31 | cityLights | maybe anyone here know lirc? |
| 12:15.43 | cityLights | I can't get any response at #lirc |
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| 13:18.33 | DocScrutinizer51 | cityLights: what's the problem? |
| 13:19.23 | cityLights | hi DocScrutinizer , I am able to get a reading using mode2 and no readings using irrecord |
| 13:20.57 | cityLights | I read the lirc "how to add new remote" and made sure no ambiant noise |
| 13:21.11 | cityLights | yet when I run irreconrd no code is sensed |
| 13:21.53 | cityLights | irrecord did sense each button and adjasted the eps and aeps |
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| 13:32.32 | cityLights | here are the codes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5592088/ |
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| 13:45.15 | vi__ | How would I best say in German: |
| 13:45.21 | vi__ | Please include the cost of postage with DHL. |
| 13:45.36 | vi__ | ? |
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| 13:54.58 | Win7Mac | vi__: "Bitte das Porto für DHL berücksichtigen." |
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| 14:08.44 | vi__ | Thank you. |
| 14:15.42 | Win7Mac | my pleasure. "berücksichtigen" actually means "consider". "include" would be "inkludieren" instead, which is not so common... |
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| 14:16.16 | Win7Mac | good site: http://dict.leo.org |
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| 14:48.10 | fil | DocScrutinizer51: "all links seem to be dead" was prompted by: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation#Installing_Maemo_5_SDK_using_Text-based_Installer which points at http://www.scratchbox.org/download/scratchbox-hathor/ which is dead |
| 14:48.40 | fil | also on http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Development_Environment/Maemo_SDK_Virtual_Images there's a link to http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php -- also dead |
| 14:50.21 | fil | I came across a few other things that seem to have rotted, which I cannot remember -- is there an up to date Getting Started guide anywhere? |
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| 14:52.27 | fil | I think the virtual image approach seems like the least effort, so if there are still live images available I'd probably go with them |
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| 15:33.18 | DocScrutinizer51 | fil: thanks, this is broken then. I hope for thedead1440 to look into it |
| 15:34.01 | DocScrutinizer51 | tablets-dev.nokia.com is known to be dead |
| 15:34.04 | DocScrutinizer51 | use |
| 15:34.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~skeiron |
| 15:34.11 | infobot | skeiron is probably the semi-official backup and emergency standin for all internet borne maemo resources: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 |
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| 15:50.57 | Woody14619 | Win7Mac, didn't see you here. Mailed you on TMO. Go check it. :) |
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| 15:53.03 | Win7Mac | Yeah, just discovered IRC over the WE and gave it a go... |
| 15:53.24 | Win7Mac | I already answered you, everything is in place |
| 15:54.00 | Woody14619 | Yay. :) Thanks. |
| 15:54.15 | Woody14619 | May pester you later today to see if you got e-mail. :) |
| 15:55.29 | Win7Mac | Many thanks and yeah, go pester me... |
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| 16:39.51 | Win7Mac | Woody, while you're at it, on https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community, when I click on "vistit subscriber list", I get "maemo-community roster authentication failed." - pending approval? |
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| 17:05.06 | Woody14619 | Win7Mac, Just logged in with my credentials, and it seems to be working. That may mean the password you're using is wrong. |
| 17:06.58 | Woody14619 | Win7Mac, To get an email confirm with your passwd is... not obvious. You need to go to unsubscribe with your e-mail and on the unsubscribe page it has a link to remind your of you password. |
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| 17:27.09 | Win7Mac | Woody, got it now, sorry. Problem was field "adress" had username preloaded so I didn't realize mail is needed instead there... Now it works. I'd rather see usernames on that list... |
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| 17:41.59 | Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer51: Still using your n900? |
| 17:42.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
| 17:42.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | every day |
| 17:42.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi Shapeshifter, long time no see |
| 17:42.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 17:42.36 | Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer51: hello :) |
| 17:42.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | wouldn't you be a nice council candidate? |
| 17:43.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | or at least you could become a nice council member - right now you're a tad detached usually, it seems |
| 17:43.43 | Shapeshifter | Oh I'm not so sure. I'm still using my N900 but I'm starting to get a bit bored. Plus I'm growing envious of the maps/navigation capabilities of Android these days... |
| 17:44.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | I know what you mean |
| 17:44.59 | Shapeshifter | From what I gather, there are still plenty of things missing on Android that I like about Maemo but in some regards, Maemo 5 is showing its age. |
| 17:45.32 | Shapeshifter | Plus I'm super busy with other things. But I like to pop in every now and then. |
| 17:46.17 | Shapeshifter | full-keyboard sliders pretty much died out ... |
| 17:46.28 | Shapeshifter | what a shame. |
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| 17:47.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 17:47.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | mainstream killed the pocket computer |
| 17:47.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | like tablets killed the PC at large |
| 17:49.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | the funnier all those (shitty crappy silly) BT clip-on hw qwerty for cryPhone |
| 17:49.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | and much all the same for tablets |
| 17:50.27 | Shapeshifter | yeah it's pretty bad. |
| 17:50.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | what the heck is wrong with this world: invent laptop/notebook/netbook, then replace that by shitty tablets, just to convert them to poor netbooks again, with add-on hw lbd |
| 17:50.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | kbd* |
| 17:51.08 | Shapeshifter | people love spending that extra money on accessoires |
| 17:51.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | I can sell them proper laptops as kit |
| 17:51.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | in 37 boxes |
| 17:51.45 | Shapeshifter | :) |
| 17:52.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | "hey, today I bought me an 'E'!" |
| 17:52.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | "PAH! I got me a display!" |
| 17:52.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | "losers! Look at my shiny CPU" |
| 17:53.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | "mine even boots menawhile!" |
| 17:53.23 | Shapeshifter | I hope that in about 10-20 years we can build our own mobile gear from scratch. |
| 17:53.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | I pretty much doubt that |
| 17:54.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless printers made HUGE progress until then, printing in nanometer range |
| 17:55.03 | Shapeshifter | Well, at the rate at which electronics are getting smaller, I could imagine something like the raspberry-pi, only 1/5 the size. Add a display, cellular antenna and battery, and you're almost there. |
| 17:55.23 | Shapeshifter | well, not *that* from scratch |
| 17:56.19 | Shapeshifter | I was more thinking about a framework (like with PCs currently). |
| 17:56.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | you know pretty well the real tough thing are the braindead little parts, like case, knobs, battery, receptacles, aso |
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| 17:57.23 | Shapeshifter | mh, yes. |
| 17:57.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | the modular concept never panned out for embedded, for basic physical reasons you can't change |
| 17:58.44 | Shapeshifter | I hope it's a case of "not yet". Something like the pi was probably thought to be impossible 10 years ago. |
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| 17:58.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | basically SoCs and modem modules are already as modular as it gets |
| 17:59.16 | Shapeshifter | mh |
| 18:00.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's no room in embedded (logically and physically) for B2B-connectors and a small case around every single module |
| 18:01.44 | Shapeshifter | Well I for one am amazed at thing like this http://blog.modmypi.com/2012/09/installing-wireless-usb-11n-nano.html |
| 18:02.04 | cehteh | in a few years there will be an optical bus :P |
| 18:02.18 | Shapeshifter | If the connector were smaller (something like micro-sd), you could have 10 of these connectors on the board, plugging in these weeny tiny things |
| 18:02.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | cehteh: won't help either |
| 18:02.26 | kerio | in a few years, the modules will just have to be in the same room to work |
| 18:02.38 | cehteh | jk |
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| 18:03.41 | cehteh | prolly most, if not all stuff will be stacked together on a single package, no modules except where they are physically unavoidable (camera, etc) |
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| 18:36.02 | thedead1440 | fil: for http://www.scratchbox.org/download/scratchbox-hathor/ use http://www.scratchbox.org/debian/dists/hathor/main/ instead |
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| 18:37.16 | thedead1440 | maybe the script is older and needs to be modified |
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| 18:38.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | umm, would a symlink do? |
| 18:39.08 | thedead1440 | yup a symlink could be made for this but we don't know all the type of symlinks that need to be made |
| 18:39.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | this looks like a start |
| 18:39.35 | thedead1440 | maybe i'll read over the scripts for the sdk installations tomorrow and see the links it points to |
| 18:39.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 18:41.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | [general notice] nomination period for MCC/HFC running out in ~24h - CONSIDER TO RUN! http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89843 |
| 18:41.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: jaffa prodding you to run for MCC/HFC :-D |
| 18:42.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | but yeah, I know your time is limited |
| 18:42.34 | fil | DocScrutinizer05, thedead1440: thanks, I'll give that a go |
| 18:51.23 | kerio | kinda |
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| 19:03.26 | fil | Shapeshifter, DocScrutinizer05: regarding modules. laptops etc. seen this? http://rhombus-tech.net/ (they have a DIY laptop in progress, the PCMCIA size is bit chunky for a phone though -- if the CF size modules ever get done, that might work though) |
| 19:05.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, it probably won't. Unlike a PC you can't use PCI for embedded plugin modules |
| 19:06.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | you got way too many interface "standards" that can't all go to a single multipurpose connector |
| 19:06.25 | Shapeshifter | It would be possible though |
| 19:06.57 | fil | erm, I think you've missed the point (the modules are a SOC and supporting kit that happen to be in the shape of PCMCIA / CF -- the signals are not at all compatible) |
| 19:08.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | and even if they could - what would you really save in doing stuff modular? the money you save on a non-populated module generally is more than eaten up by the increased complexity of the device at large, plus the connectors and stuff, make case with slots/appertures/removable-lid, and whatnot |
| 19:08.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | same for size of device |
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| 19:34.45 | ccxCZ | hm, still can't get my n900 to boot even after rootfs restore, it powercycles in the nokia screen |
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| 19:36.25 | ccxCZ | iirc it was stuck at the dots originally, then I attempted to flash stock rootfs usinx 0xffff, probably destroyed something in the process |
| 19:37.34 | ccxCZ | rescueOS luckily works. any ideas? I heard there's a tool to reflash n900 from inside, is it on rescueOS? |
| 19:49.29 | kerio | ~pr131 |
| 19:49.30 | infobot | rumour has it, combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 19:49.44 | kerio | ~skeiron |
| 19:49.44 | infobot | hmm... skeiron is the semi-official backup and emergency standin for all internet borne maemo resources: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 |
| 19:50.39 | fil | in the sb-conf bit of the manual scratchbox install, it mentions debian-etch -- should that now be debian-squeeze? (and does it matter that I'm doing this on a debian-wheezy machine?) |
| 19:52.05 | gregoa | fil: I'm using the debian-squeeze target of scratchbox, and I'm running it on sid. worked, last time I tried. - and hi :) |
| 19:52.56 | fil | hi gregoa :-) |
| 19:53.41 | fil | so do I actually need to define a FREMANTLE_X86 target (given that I think I only want this for building things for my n900) |
| 19:54.11 | gregoa | no, I had one created and dropped it after not having used it once |
| 19:54.24 | fil | fine, that's what I thought |
| 19:55.25 | merlin1991 | the only advantage of the x86 target is, that the simultor in there works |
| 19:56.22 | fil | Hmm, just got: sb-conf: No such devkit: debian-squeeze -- so should I be leaving that as debian-etch in that instance, or am I missing something else? |
| 19:56.39 | fil | merlin1991: ah, ok |
| 19:57.23 | gregoa | fil: do you have the scratchbox-devkit-debian-squeeze package installed? |
| 19:58.24 | fil | gregoa: I do now :-) ... |
| 19:58.28 | gregoa | :) |
| 19:59.19 | fil | that's better |
| 20:00.36 | ccxCZ | kerio: I was reluctant to flash the full fiasco to not screw up the various firmwares, but I might have already done that :-) |
| 20:00.50 | kerio | which firmwares? |
| 20:01.23 | ccxCZ | GSM and whatever is there |
| 20:01.43 | kerio | well, it's in the fiasco image |
| 20:01.44 | kerio | isn't it |
| 20:05.06 | ccxCZ | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#N900 |
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| 20:34.54 | fil | gregoa: is this actually the easiest way of getting something compiled for Maemo? It strikes me that, what with the number of DDs who have/had n900's there really ought to be a way of just treating it as another debian arch, but presumably that's a no-go for some reason? |
| 20:41.45 | kerio | it's... not debian |
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| 20:46.12 | gregoa | fil: I guess the problem is that maemo is not debian (but a fork from 2009 with some changes and some proprietary pieces etc.) |
| 20:47.06 | gregoa | fil: but I'm also surprised that the many DDs who at least had an n900 back in ~2010 didn't push more for debian on the machine. or for bringing maemo closer to debian. |
| 20:48.27 | gregoa | fil: and be prepared for some fun. e.g. debhelper has version 5, and then there's a separate "debhelper7" package. - and the rest of the toolchain is also rather antique. |
| 20:49.02 | fil | yeah, I know it's a fork, but if we can have buildds for BSD and HURD, how hard can it be -- we do have a couple of ARM ports after all |
| 20:49.58 | gregoa | but no nokia-binaries in the archive |
| 20:50.37 | fil | non-free? intaller-packages? *shrug* |
| 20:52.10 | gregoa | hm, right, might work with some hacks. if nokia allowed debian to use those pieces |
| 20:52.43 | fil | yeah -- I guess Nokia has not excatly been encouraging |
| 20:53.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ccxCZ: flash your COMBINED, then see if it boots. If not, flash VANILLA, then COMBINED again |
| 20:54.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | use flasher-3.5 I'd suggest (if you have troubles anyway) |
| 20:54.42 | ccxCZ | that's what I thought, thanks. will let it charge overnight |
| 20:54.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | good plan |
| 20:56.51 | ccxCZ | gn |
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| 21:22.22 | Gremuchnik | Hi friends, two small questions: can I install Maemo5 on my Nokia N800 and, if yes, will I be able to install Easy Debian (http://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian) on it? thanks! |
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| 21:27.39 | kerio | Gremuchnik: no |
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| 21:53.51 | Gremuchnik | ok thanks |
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| 23:06.08 | ron0062000 | so is there update for x-chat |
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| 23:22.11 | Sc0rpius | who is responsible for thumbnails creation in Maemo (tracker? hildon-thumbnailerd?) and why there are thumbnails in the Media Player that are NOT in /home/user/.thumbnails ? |
| 23:24.26 | Drathir | that isnt generated only for image files? anyway i can be wrong... |
| 23:24.38 | Sc0rpius | videos and audio files too |
| 23:24.46 | Sc0rpius | audio files have the cover album |
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