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| 03:46.29 | Sc0rpius | I need a fast browser |
| 03:46.49 | Sc0rpius | that renders pages as mobile pages not desktop pages like microb |
| 04:12.24 | Sc0rpius | fennec renders great too bad it looks like it is the slowest browser ever created in the history of this and several other universe if you agree on string theory |
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| 04:47.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | err, rendering like mobile pages? |
| 04:48.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I always thought that all browsers render more or less the same way, and it's mainly the server that delivers specially formatted "mobile" pages for certain browser identifications |
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| 05:42.36 | rikanee | Sc0rpius: Opera? |
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| 07:32.34 | Sc0rpius | DocScrutinizer05, actually you are right, but for microb to do that I would have to install an add-on to change the user-agent to something that most servers would understand as a mobile |
| 07:34.28 | Sc0rpius | I tried Opera but it closes (segmentation fault?) on most pages, even on Facebook (that's absurd). |
| 07:34.51 | Sc0rpius | fennec is perfect, but it's so slow it's unusable |
| 07:43.31 | sixwheeledbeast | ScOrpius: Opera 11 ? |
| 07:44.29 | sixwheeledbeast | Or if thumb use fennec-thumb? |
| 07:45.04 | sixwheeledbeast | Doh Sc0rpius ^^^ |
| 07:46.04 | Sc0rpius | I'm using fennec-thumb yeah |
| 07:51.37 | sixwheeledbeast | Opera 12 has been known to segfault intermittantly but I have had no trouble with Opera 11. fennec-thumb should be useable. |
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| 08:09.49 | kerio | Woody14619: hmm, "unless there is a serious volunteer effort to calculate everyone's karma by hand, we will treat all maemo.org accounts older than 3 months as eligible for this election only" |
| 08:09.56 | kerio | is that to vote, or to be elected? |
| 08:10.43 | sixwheeledbeast | afaik to vote |
| 08:11.59 | kerio | aww :( |
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| 08:13.14 | sixwheeledbeast | nominees will be calculated by hand me thinks. |
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| 11:29.49 | kerum | hey |
| 11:30.08 | kerum | I'm trying to install json 1.7.7 on n900 |
| 11:31.07 | kerum | Gem::Installer::ExtensionBuildError: ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension |
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| 11:31.32 | sixwheeledbeast | Yay, just got my vote token. I see the wiki pages I did have been included. |
| 11:31.45 | kerum | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:31.46 | sixwheeledbeast | Shame the links are broken, lol |
| 11:32.32 | kerum | extconf.rb:1:in require : no such file to load -- mkmf (LoadError) |
| 11:32.45 | kerum | can anyone help me? |
| 11:32.51 | kerum | i get that when i do |
| 11:33.08 | kerum | gem install json -v '1.7.7' |
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| 14:54.53 | grummund | Hi all, i installed the "Wifi Channel 12 and 13 enabler" package but still my router on ch12 does not show up, any ideas? |
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| 15:00.22 | Drathir | grummund: what network type using your router b/g/n? |
| 15:01.22 | grummund | i have it set to 11g only |
| 15:02.24 | grummund | options are 11b/11g/Superg or a combination thereof. |
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| 15:03.50 | grummund | both Linux box and WinXp laptop are able to connect oh Ch12. |
| 15:04.54 | grummund | this is with a n900 btw. |
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| 15:10.17 | Macer | hm |
| 15:10.30 | Macer | fmobi got around to fixing their facebook api but now like half the things don't work |
| 15:10.42 | Macer | simple things like going to your posts via notifications lol |
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| 15:15.56 | Drathir | grummund: you have airodump-ng installed? |
| 15:16.28 | grummund | Drathir: no, should i? |
| 15:16.31 | Macer | omg you have got to be kidding me |
| 15:16.40 | Macer | it worked for an hour then went back to error 403? |
| 15:16.43 | Drathir | Macer: bitlbee also dont work with oauth fb revoked api keys proppably... :/ |
| 15:16.54 | Macer | Drathir: yeah it's insane |
| 15:17.12 | Macer | it was just working. i used it for like 10-20 minutes then the keys were revoked? |
| 15:17.16 | Macer | facebook is a bitch |
| 15:17.20 | Apic | *nod* |
| 15:17.31 | Drathir | grummund: no yyou shouldnt i ask if you have you can check what channels phone can see... |
| 15:18.03 | grummund | Drathir: using wifieye i see other networks |
| 15:18.22 | grummund | Drathir: also the n900 will connect fine with the router set to Ch11 |
| 15:18.41 | Drathir | grummund: check if network isnt hidden and have mac filtering... |
| 15:18.59 | grummund | it's not hidden |
| 15:19.07 | grummund | the n900 will see it and connect on Ch11 |
| 15:19.14 | Drathir | Macer: bitlbee site say that hey revoked... :/ |
| 15:19.30 | Drathir | they* |
| 15:19.33 | grummund | other PCs (both Win & Linux) can connect on Ch12 |
| 15:19.57 | Drathir | fb hacve strange implementation of xmpp :/ |
| 15:20.11 | grummund | i may just revert the router to Ch11 to allow the n900 to be used. |
| 15:20.22 | Drathir | Macer: if working maybe servers issue only... |
| 15:21.00 | Macer | it was working fine |
| 15:21.06 | Drathir | grummund: that looks like patch not working :/ |
| 15:21.06 | Macer | then the api returned 403 forbidden |
| 15:21.14 | Macer | so it's probably fb being little bitches to the 3rd party apps |
| 15:21.33 | Macer | just so people are forced to use their ugly fb garbage |
| 15:22.00 | Macer | does anybody know a good cover for my n900 to get? i don't care about bulk just protection |
| 15:22.12 | Macer | i got a decent one but now one of the cheap chinese tabs seems to have worn |
| 15:22.20 | Macer | and the front cover doesn't stick as well :-/ |
| 15:22.28 | Drathir | Macer: try to connect without password-oauth only with mnormal password ? |
| 15:22.31 | grummund | Macer: i had one off amazon for 99p - works great. |
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| 15:24.57 | Macer | Drathir: i don't know how to do that with fb? i can login just fine on a pc |
| 15:24.57 | Macer | heh |
| 15:25.04 | Macer | fmobi requires oauth |
| 15:25.27 | Macer | grummund: so did i.. that is the one that isn't working :-/ |
| 15:25.33 | Macer | the little plastic tab broke off in one of the corners |
| 15:25.37 | Macer | so the front falls off |
| 15:26.44 | Drathir | Macer: try simple xmpp server chat.facebook.com nick username and with password |
| 15:27.24 | Drathir | have you any xmpp client? |
| 15:27.24 | grummund | Macer: mine gets carried around in a backpack so not too much abuse |
| 15:27.29 | Macer | Drathir: that works fine |
| 15:27.33 | Macer | i am using it with the n900 |
| 15:27.36 | grummund | i can lookup the amazon link if you wnat though |
| 15:27.38 | Macer | i just chatted with someone ;) |
| 15:27.56 | Macer | heh.. yeah well.. i try not to use mine much but i would still like the protection |
| 15:28.00 | Macer | i don't care much about the bulk of it |
| 15:28.19 | Macer | http://www.amazon.com/Amzer-Simple-Casewith-Protector-Rubberized/dp/B002XZM0V2/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1366558016&sr=8-17&keywords=Nokia+N900 |
| 15:28.34 | Drathir | Macer: with client you using for that inside n900? |
| 15:29.06 | grummund | Macer: this one here is a mock leather wallet type |
| 15:29.32 | Drathir | in short which n900 apps you using to connect? |
| 15:30.55 | Macer | http://www.amazon.com/Amzer-Simple-Casewith-Protector-Rubberized/product-reviews/B002XZM0V2/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1 |
| 15:30.58 | Macer | oops |
| 15:31.01 | Macer | that is one of them |
| 15:31.08 | Macer | Drathir: i'm using fmobi to connect to fb |
| 15:31.16 | Macer | as well as telepathy to connect to the fb chat |
| 15:31.33 | Macer | i tried using the browser but it sucks for the "new and improved" fb |
| 15:31.39 | Macer | the cpu gets maxed out and can't handle the page |
| 15:32.13 | Macer | i bet that $11 amzer is just as bad as the one i got for $1 heh |
| 15:32.32 | Macer | too bad finding an otterbox would be next to impossible |
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| 15:33.18 | Macer | The product arrived only with the back piece in the package. I read another review with the same problem, where are the front pieces (are you selling them separated?) |
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| 15:33.21 | Macer | lol |
| 15:36.00 | rikanee | Macer: the plain old non-HTML5 Facebook for mobile should still be there for browsers that suck. |
| 15:36.24 | grummund | Macer: that's what i have - http://www.amazon.co.uk/BLACK-WALLET-LEATHER-CASE-NOKIA/dp/B0038LNLS6 |
| 15:36.26 | rikanee | I forgot what the URL was, so I'll have to figure out where my PSP was. |
| 15:36.29 | Macer | rikanee: where? |
| 15:36.31 | Macer | heh |
| 15:36.40 | Macer | touch.facebook.com didn't work |
| 15:36.51 | Macer | half the stuff wouldn't work in microb |
| 15:36.59 | Macer | like... the menu :) |
| 15:37.23 | rikanee | (in all seriousness though, the transition animations Facebook added to the HTML5 mobile site totally killed performance on notWebkit) |
| 15:37.56 | grummund | http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41c9t5YJQvL.jpg |
| 15:37.58 | grummund | http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Jx-WC%2BtBL.jpg |
| 15:38.06 | grummund | Macer: ^^ |
| 15:38.15 | Macer | http://www.amazon.com/Amzer-Rubberized-Crystal-Nokia-plastic/dp/B0059BUSFW/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A21C4U5X700J66 |
| 15:38.31 | Macer | grummund: oh lol |
| 15:38.40 | Macer | i was looking for something that didn't require me taking the n900 out of it |
| 15:38.48 | Macer | a protector more than a case... like the one i just pasted |
| 15:38.54 | Macer | where the kb will slide open |
| 15:39.08 | grummund | yeah it does that |
| 15:39.40 | grummund | http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41vdV9Z3VhL._SL500_.jpg |
| 15:40.41 | Macer | yeah i guess but it requires an unsnap, flip back. and keyboard flip heh |
| 15:40.46 | Macer | that seems like a lot of work ;) |
| 15:40.54 | Macer | i just want something simple that will protect the edges |
| 15:40.55 | Drathir | Macer: touch.facebook.com works not bad inside opera... |
| 15:41.16 | grummund | Macer: get an iphone then :p |
| 15:41.50 | Macer | http://www.amazon.com/OtterBox-Commuter-Case-Nokia-E7/dp/B004M8R9YG/ref=sr_1_14?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1366558876&sr=1-14&keywords=nokia+e7+case |
| 15:42.01 | Macer | :'( |
| 15:42.04 | Macer | RIP otterbox stuff |
| 15:44.57 | Macer | http://www.amazon.com/Perforated-Mesh-Back-Cover-Nokia/dp/B005NYBT9Y/ref=sr_1_21?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1366558929&sr=1-21&keywords=nokia+e7+case |
| 15:45.03 | Macer | i can't find anything like that for my e7 either |
| 15:45.06 | Macer | wtf |
| 15:45.54 | Drathir | Macer: gravity... |
| 15:46.17 | Macer | Drathir: i meant a case for my e7 ;) |
| 15:46.24 | Macer | gravity is pretty awesome tho |
| 15:46.36 | Macer | but i'm so worried that fb is going to screw over the little guy that i wouldn't buy it |
| 15:47.02 | Macer | next time i'm just pirating phone apps until i see them working... it was $2 and i never got my money's worth |
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| 15:47.57 | Drathir | Macer: nothing faster and less network usage i dont find on symbian... gravity was great... |
| 15:48.52 | Drathir | Macer: fmobi isnt free app? |
| 15:53.20 | Macer | no |
| 15:53.24 | Macer | you buy it on the ovi store |
| 15:54.15 | Macer | http://www.amazon.com/BoxWave-Nokia-N900-AluArmor-Jacket/dp/B003CJ4ZFM/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1366559625&sr=1-2&keywords=n900+case |
| 15:54.22 | Macer | i wonder if that squeaked when you opened it lol |
| 15:54.54 | Macer | http://www.amazon.com/OtterBox-Nokia-N900-Commuter-Case/dp/B003FVQAHI/ref=sr_1_7?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1366559667&sr=1-7&keywords=n900+case |
| 15:55.00 | Macer | that's what i want :-/ i can't find it even on ebay |
| 15:55.53 | Macer | i guess it's just impossible to find decent covers for old devices |
| 15:56.01 | Macer | guess i'll do like you said and just get a leather case type one for it |
| 15:56.09 | Drathir | Macer: i want to test that app but if must buy it is bad idea better using something open to much api key changes to buy app... |
| 15:56.30 | Macer | well.. talk to the dev ;) |
| 15:56.38 | Macer | lol... he obviously doesn'tn give a shit about making sure it works |
| 15:56.41 | Macer | maybe he'll give it up |
| 15:56.58 | Macer | but when you have chumps like me buying it |
| 15:57.02 | Macer | then why would you? heh |
| 15:57.16 | Macer | also... nobody seems to want to dev an open fb client even tho the api is supposed to be easy to use |
| 15:57.30 | luf | I uploaded latest version of tinysmb to extras-devel. If no bug report I'll promote it into extras-testing next week. |
| 15:57.32 | Macer | surprised someone out there hasn't made a functional open one yet hhe |
| 15:58.49 | Drathir | bitlbee should work but someone proppably must genere new api keys nad compile app with new keys... :/ |
| 15:59.46 | Drathir | i run bitlbee inside alarm chroot and acces from n900 irssi ^^ |
| 16:00.38 | Macer | heh |
| 16:00.46 | Macer | well.. let me swap over to my e7 and see if it has the same issues |
| 16:00.46 | Drathir | luf: thanks a lot i must remember to update... |
| 16:02.33 | Macer | tosses his sim in |
| 16:02.44 | Macer | yeah these n900 covers i got totally suck |
| 16:02.50 | Macer | cheaply made in china crap |
| 16:02.54 | Drathir | the most missing for me is bombus :,( |
| 16:03.05 | Drathir | from symbian... |
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| 16:03.37 | Macer | symbian is pretty awesome in its own way |
| 16:03.57 | Macer | i can say at the very least it had far more commercial support than maemo :) |
| 16:04.29 | Drathir | anyway its a java app, but perfect - fast, stable, thin, low resource and smallest network usage fromm all app on the world... |
| 16:04.30 | Macer | i'm waiting for these ubuntu phones to come out |
| 16:05.10 | Macer | and for some reason tmobile service in my area dropped badly |
| 16:05.17 | Macer | i was maxed out with bars until yesterday |
| 16:05.24 | Macer | it's like they completely turned a tower off |
| 16:06.25 | Macer | i'm trying symbian fmobi now |
| 16:06.55 | Drathir | e51 is great apps i find for all i need, only one bad thing is low memory/ram builit in, but with monitoring app i can open 10 apps in one time... |
| 16:07.53 | Drathir | Macer: have you orange carrier? |
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| 16:09.17 | Macer | tmobile prepaid |
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| 16:10.56 | Macer | hm |
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| 16:12.34 | Macer | the symbian fmobi works fine |
| 16:12.39 | Macer | so it was just the n900 that was abandoned lol |
| 16:13.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | HUH? |
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| 16:27.49 | Drathir | that little sad when all platforms with n900 dont updated with the same time... :/ |
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| 16:29.40 | Drathir | DocScrutinizer05: hi maybe you remember where n900 storage modules? i looking for names wifi normal and injection drivers... |
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| 16:48.10 | Macer | heh |
| 16:48.48 | Macer | ah well... i'm done buying my little toys ;) i'll wait until a good supported ubuntu phone comes out and get that and stick with the n900 and e7 until then |
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| 16:49.03 | Macer | i just don't want a phone that doesn't have a qwerty |
| 16:49.09 | Macer | and i sure don't want another conglomerate phone |
| 16:49.24 | Macer | 3 of the largest tech companies in the world are the only 3 making phone operating systems |
| 16:49.27 | Macer | how sad |
| 16:49.43 | Macer | oh... 4.. forgot the facebook phone.. but that's just android as well |
| 16:50.18 | Win7Mac_ | @Drathir: DocScrutinizer is not reading ATM |
| 16:50.20 | kerio | 3 of the largest tech companies in the world are the only 3 making phone operating systems, and none seem to be any good at it |
| 16:51.17 | Macer | kerio: lol! |
| 16:51.33 | Macer | they are good enough at it to make whatever people want ;) |
| 16:52.08 | Macer | i wonder if blackberry has taken the ad-road |
| 16:53.19 | Macer | what are the 2 blackberry phones that were released? |
| 16:53.22 | Macer | one was a z10 |
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| 16:54.30 | Macer | ah.. the q10 |
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| 16:56.44 | Macer | wonder if t-mobile will have a q10 |
| 16:56.51 | Macer | or if there is an unlocked ver that supports their freq |
| 16:57.33 | Macer | oh. i guess the q10 isnt even out yet |
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| 17:20.52 | Sc0rpius | sixwheeledbeast, thank you for the suggestion. I downgraded Opera to 11 and it works great, you're right. |
| 17:21.01 | Sc0rpius | and it's very sad about Opera 12, it's unusable. |
| 17:23.32 | sixwheeledbeast | Sc0rpius: serves you right for using devel version :P |
| 17:24.19 | sixwheeledbeast | Hopefully alopex will rock and be the amazing browser the N900 deserves. |
| 17:30.22 | kerio | it's qt, isn't it |
| 17:30.29 | kerio | it's already worthless to me :< |
| 17:31.55 | Sc0rpius | you don't like Qt? |
| 17:32.50 | sixwheeledbeast | something to do with key mappings ... yawn :P |
| 17:33.30 | kerio | it doesn't honour my xkb layout, and it doesn't honour the settings regarding hold-to-sym |
| 17:34.13 | Sc0rpius | tests that, since he has a different layout as well |
| 17:34.24 | Sc0rpius | oh you're right |
| 17:36.16 | Sc0rpius | so I think I can't type comments in Facebook with áéíóú |
| 17:36.18 | Sc0rpius | tries that |
| 17:36.29 | Sc0rpius | but I can |
| 17:36.43 | Sc0rpius | :) |
| 17:36.52 | Sc0rpius | so it's "honoring" my xkb layout |
| 17:37.01 | kerio | another thing, which is also something fennec does, is that fn-release-<key> doesn't work as fn+key |
| 17:37.08 | kerio | not sure if alopex also does that |
| 17:37.31 | Sc0rpius | fn, release, and then key works as well |
| 17:37.54 | Sc0rpius | everything I tried works in Opera 11 |
| 17:38.07 | kerio | it doesn't work in yappari for me, though |
| 17:38.17 | kerio | and that's qt *and* text-heavy |
| 17:38.26 | Sc0rpius | :( |
| 17:38.35 | kerio | it's one of the reasons i stopped using it |
| 17:38.41 | Sc0rpius | your xkb layout doesn't work in Yappari? |
| 17:38.44 | kerio | yep |
| 17:38.50 | kerio | another reason is, it's not a Conversations plugin |
| 17:38.51 | Sc0rpius | that's very weird |
| 17:38.57 | Sc0rpius | unless you use an IDE or something to type chinese |
| 17:39.04 | kerio | and a third reason is that whatsapp sucks balls |
| 17:39.05 | Sc0rpius | it can't be a Conversations plugin |
| 17:39.14 | kerio | sure it can, it's masqueraded xmpp |
| 17:39.22 | Sc0rpius | I agree on your 3rd reason, we should hack Line or Vibe and write a client for that |
| 17:39.28 | Drathir | Win7Mac_: thanks a lot for info i wait, and dont think go anywhere... |
| 17:39.43 | Sc0rpius | it can for text only, but you'd lose the multimedia and that's the ONLY reason to use WhatsApp |
| 17:39.51 | Sc0rpius | otherwise we would use GTalk and that's it |
| 17:40.13 | Sc0rpius | I *could* write a Conversations plugin for Whatsapp text-only but who would want that |
| 17:40.38 | Drathir | bb never dead in my opinion have great phones which must work dosent matter what happen... |
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| 17:41.04 | kerio | Sc0rpius: receiving multimedia would work |
| 17:41.09 | kerio | sending... eh, not so much |
| 17:41.30 | Sc0rpius | the first thing I tried was to write a conversations plugin |
| 17:41.45 | Sc0rpius | and when I saw the API, I knew it was pointless |
| 17:42.20 | Drathir | have 12.10.16 opera version... |
| 17:42.33 | Sc0rpius | Drathir, I'd suggest you to downgrade |
| 17:44.28 | Sc0rpius | but I wonder |
| 17:44.40 | Sc0rpius | if so many people has so many problems with introducing text in all Qt apps |
| 17:44.57 | Sc0rpius | why nobody has patched Qt for that, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be hard |
| 17:45.33 | kerio | patches welcome, at #maemo-ssu |
| 17:45.34 | Sc0rpius | since CSSU there has been newer Qt versions for the N900, some even fix several bugs that the stock firmware has |
| 17:45.50 | Sc0rpius | yeah, patch it :P |
| 17:45.57 | Sc0rpius | since I can't reproduce the problem I wouldn't know where to begin |
| 17:46.02 | freemangordon | Sc0rpius: hildon QT IM plugin is a mess |
| 17:46.18 | kerio | freemangordon: what happens if we disable it? |
| 17:46.24 | freemangordon | though it is in my queue |
| 17:46.36 | kerio | actually, wrong question |
| 17:46.39 | freemangordon | kerio: no text input in Qt apps? |
| 17:46.40 | kerio | how do i disable it? |
| 17:46.46 | kerio | wat |
| 17:46.48 | kerio | no text input at all? |
| 17:46.54 | freemangordon | I guess so |
| 17:47.04 | kerio | won't qt just use the standard xkb one? |
| 17:47.14 | Sc0rpius | I modified my keyboard layout to type áéíóú and ñ and it works in all my Qt apps, so I wonder why people do that doesn't work for them |
| 17:47.17 | freemangordon | iirc it is ifdeffed |
| 17:47.40 | freemangordon | kerio: ^^^ |
| 17:47.51 | kerio | i modified my keyboard layout to type àèéìòù<>[]{}%~` |
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| 17:47.58 | Sc0rpius | ok |
| 17:48.00 | kerio | and none of the shift+fn+<key> combinations work in qt |
| 17:48.26 | Sc0rpius | hmmm I don't use shift+fn+key combinations |
| 17:48.36 | freemangordon | Sc0rpius: kerio: toldya, it is in my queue, I am the most affected (because of the cyrillic) |
| 17:48.37 | kerio | ...where have you put those keys then? :O |
| 17:48.37 | Sc0rpius | lemme see |
| 17:49.09 | Sc0rpius | all my Fn+key combinations work in Qt |
| 17:49.17 | Sc0rpius | I changed Fn + arrow keys for the dead keys |
| 17:49.30 | Sc0rpius | actually this is what I did |
| 17:49.36 | Sc0rpius | I changed , to dead key ' |
| 17:49.39 | kerio | those only make sense as home/end/pgup/pgdwn |
| 17:49.40 | Sc0rpius | FN <- is the , |
| 17:49.51 | Sc0rpius | Fn up is the dead key ` |
| 17:49.58 | Sc0rpius | fn -> is the ; |
| 17:49.58 | kerio | oh |
| 17:49.59 | kerio | pff |
| 17:50.05 | Sc0rpius | and Fn down is the dead key ~ |
| 17:50.14 | Sc0rpius | so I don't use shift ever. |
| 17:50.41 | Sc0rpius | and looks like the shift is the problem, since all my Fn+key combinations work in Qt |
| 17:50.55 | kerio | real men don't use combining accents! |
| 17:51.03 | Sc0rpius | what do you mean |
| 17:51.05 | kerio | and they're not even combining accents, they're a weird thing |
| 17:51.41 | Sc0rpius | so you have a key for á??? instead of typing ' first and then a ? |
| 17:51.48 | Sc0rpius | that's weird in this side of the planet!!! |
| 17:52.06 | Sc0rpius | all our keyboards are in english we don't have keys for áéíóú we have to type ' and then a to á |
| 17:52.15 | kerio | yeah well, other layouts exist |
| 17:52.30 | kerio | for fuck's sake, the italian keyboard has ç, ° and § as shift+key combinations |
| 17:52.38 | kerio | (the full-size one, i mean) |
| 17:52.58 | Sc0rpius | how do those shift+key combinations work? |
| 17:53.12 | Sc0rpius | if I type shift a I would get a capital A, so I wonder... |
| 17:53.18 | kerio | § is shift+ù |
| 17:53.21 | Sc0rpius | (I mean in real desktop keyboards) |
| 17:53.34 | kerio | ù is the last key before enter, in the home row |
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| 17:53.43 | kerio | hysterical raisins, yes |
| 17:53.46 | kerio | but that's what i'm used to |
| 17:53.47 | Sc0rpius | shift ù is Ù in my keyboard :) |
| 17:54.02 | Sc0rpius | and I type it as Shift (hold), ` and then u |
| 17:54.17 | kerio | capital letters are at the beginning of sentences in italian, or at the beginning of proper nouns |
| 17:54.27 | kerio | accents are at the end of certain words |
| 17:54.30 | kerio | :) |
| 17:54.47 | Sc0rpius | my native language is spanish so I know what you're talking about |
| 17:54.52 | kerio | there's hardly ever a reason to use accented capitals |
| 17:54.58 | kerio | unless shouting |
| 17:55.02 | Sc0rpius | heh |
| 17:55.26 | kerio | osx has alt+shift+certain keys for capitalized accented letters, however |
| 17:55.36 | Sc0rpius | but looks like it's only the shift-fn-key that is not working in Qt, that must be very easy to fix |
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| 17:56.05 | kerio | freemangordon: heard that? it's "very easy" |
| 17:56.09 | Sc0rpius | since Fn+key work... |
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| 17:59.44 | Sc0rpius | the thing is, I'm not sure if CSSU pulls the whole Qt source in their git repository... |
| 18:02.55 | Sc0rpius | well it's there |
| 18:04.48 | Drathir | Sc0rpius: why? |
| 18:04.54 | Sc0rpius | why what |
| 18:06.14 | freemangordon | Sc0rpius: for sure it is the whole source |
| 18:06.43 | Drathir | Sc0rpius: why downgrade? what is wrong with 12? |
| 18:06.49 | Sc0rpius | yes, I'm lookint at the QHildonInputContext_X11.cpp for the sake of curiosity |
| 18:07.04 | Sc0rpius | Drathir, Opera 12 in Maemo crashes all the time |
| 18:07.09 | Sc0rpius | *looking |
| 18:07.46 | freemangordon | Sc0rpius: not anymore, at least here it is rock stable |
| 18:07.54 | freemangordon | (opera) |
| 18:08.07 | Sc0rpius | well it was crashing so I downgraded to 11 and now it works fine |
| 18:09.25 | sixwheeledbeast | It is better but it still had reports of the occasion segfault, must depend on the website. |
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| 18:10.43 | Sc0rpius | kerio when you press Shift + Fn + key in a Qt app do you get the Fn+key combination or the Shift+key combination? |
| 18:11.54 | Drathir | Sc0rpius: crashes when have to much ram usage what i saw... |
| 18:12.23 | Sc0rpius | with Opera 12, I start it, go to facebook, press Login, and it crashes. 100% of the time |
| 18:12.36 | Sc0rpius | with Opera 11 everything I've tried works fine |
| 18:13.28 | Drathir | Sc0rpius: could me seand a page adress and you using phone or pc UA? |
| 18:13.45 | Sc0rpius | I guess the phone user agent, since I haven't modified it |
| 18:14.03 | Sc0rpius | I use the default settings I haven't even seen the configuration page |
| 18:14.11 | Drathir | ok i will check... |
| 18:14.26 | Sc0rpius | I'm happy with Opera 11 though :) |
| 18:15.02 | Drathir | Sc0rpius: try delete opera and opera folder and install 22 again, maybe have a old broken configuration settings? |
| 18:15.36 | Sc0rpius | ok I can try that |
| 18:16.30 | Drathir | opera:about opera:config opera:cache |
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| 18:16.50 | Drathir | you can compare settings.... |
| 18:17.10 | Drathir | with booth... |
| 18:18.18 | jean_brat | hi.. i just brought a logitech bluetooth keyboard for Ipad.. and paierd it with N900.. Pair is successful |
| 18:18.47 | jean_brat | but however keys are not working |
| 18:19.11 | jean_brat | if i open text msg and start to type something |
| 18:19.57 | freemangordon | jean_brat: install extkbd |
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| 18:20.58 | Sc0rpius | well if I'm not mistaken, if you press Fn+Shift+key you'd get shift+key and pressing shift+fn+key you'd get fn+key in Qt apps. |
| 18:21.42 | freemangordon | Sc0rpius: yep, sounds like what exactly happens |
| 18:21.52 | Sc0rpius | but in the code looks like it's one or the other since it's |
| 18:22.09 | freemangordon | shift is somehow wrongly recognized |
| 18:22.41 | Sc0rpius | if (qtkeycode == Qt::Key_AltGr) { bla } ELSE if (qtkeycode == Qt::Key_Shift) { bla } |
| 18:22.46 | Sc0rpius | but never the combination of the two. |
| 18:23.19 | Sc0rpius | so the last one pressed is the only one that will modify |
| 18:24.27 | Sc0rpius | not sure I would have to read more code |
| 18:25.08 | freemangordon | Sc0rpius: Patches are welcome :). Though I have to look at it too, because it reverses small/capital letters in QML apps. Here, with my bulgarian keyboard |
| 18:25.26 | freemangordon | QML and Qt apps that is |
| 18:26.11 | freemangordon | wonders why there is no bug for that |
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| 18:34.16 | jean_brat | freemangordon, i have installed extkbt.. it does not show in the main menu.. |
| 18:34.48 | jean_brat | i deleted the device and repaiered it as well... no help |
| 18:35.00 | freemangordon | strange |
| 18:35.43 | jean_brat | extkbt shows in the in installion list of App manager |
| 18:35.55 | jean_brat | *un_installation |
| 18:36.03 | freemangordon | oh, ok |
| 18:36.13 | jean_brat | so its been installed i believe |
| 18:36.39 | freemangordon | jean_brat: does BT icon turns blue? |
| 18:36.44 | freemangordon | *turn |
| 18:37.00 | jean_brat | yes its blue |
| 18:37.19 | freemangordon | ok. could you pastebin your dmesg log? |
| 18:39.11 | jean_brat | let me reboot the device and pair it again |
| 18:45.42 | jean_brat | ok.. seems like its working.. z and y are interchanged.. and caps lock and shifts and numbers are not working |
| 18:45.52 | freemangordon | jean_brat: select your correct layout |
| 18:46.16 | freemangordon | settings->external keyboard |
| 18:46.24 | jean_brat | how do i do that? |
| 18:46.54 | freemangordon | jean_brat: go to settings and select "external keyboard" |
| 18:48.56 | mickname | is it possible to enable svg rendering in microb? |
| 18:49.49 | jean_brat | its a Logitech Tablet Keyboard for ipad.. not sure what to selct there.. |
| 18:50.15 | freemangordon | well, try with pc103 first |
| 18:50.44 | freemangordon | jean_brat: or ask google which layout linux users choose for this kbd |
| 18:53.22 | jean_brat | its like the exact ipad on screen touch keyboard... don know what layout is it.. |
| 18:55.44 | mickname | alright, i set html5.enable to true in about:config and it seems to be working now.. i hope this doesnät kill the browser |
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| 19:04.03 | Sc0rpius | Drathir, deleted .opera dir |
| 19:04.05 | Sc0rpius | installed Opera 12 |
| 19:04.08 | Sc0rpius | start it |
| 19:04.13 | Sc0rpius | I click ACCEPT and it crashes :/ |
| 19:04.22 | Sc0rpius | this is bs |
| 19:06.12 | Sc0rpius | back to Opera 11 |
| 19:06.54 | Sc0rpius | 11.5beta1-14~fremantle0 that's the stable one for me |
| 19:08.13 | Sc0rpius | Opera 11 also loads way faster |
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| 19:17.22 | Drathir | Sc0rpius: check opera:cach any files there? |
| 19:17.42 | Drathir | opera:cache |
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| 20:14.50 | ron0062000 | when is the next update for cssu |
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| 20:17.06 | merlin1991 | thinks /me is supposed to be used like this not for a straight question |
| 20:17.29 | sixwheeledbeast | agrees with merlin1991 |
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| 20:25.07 | sixwheeledbeast | ron0062000: when its ready http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1335985&postcount=1163 |
| 20:25.59 | freemangordon | kerio: new bb-power is in the thumb repo, mind to test it? |
| 20:28.04 | sixwheeledbeast | Is there a plan to update CSSU stable version to the latest? Seems only 4.1 is available from the repo? |
| 20:29.25 | freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: there is CSSU meeting on Tuesday, I guess we'll duscuss this along with the other stuff |
| 20:33.29 | sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon: \o/ also could someone in the know fill in the blanks on http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/ChangelogStable |
| 20:34.19 | freemangordon | well, I think that one is supposed to be chem|st :) |
| 20:35.10 | sixwheeledbeast | I have done the columns but didn't know were to find the rest :) |
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| 21:02.54 | merlin1991 | sixwheeledbeast: you can check https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blobs/stable/debian/changelog |
| 21:03.06 | merlin1991 | and the actual changes in the packages from the testing list ;) |
| 21:07.47 | sixwheeledbeast | It's the changes that need filling in, I found the changelog. |
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| 21:50.09 | ron0062000 | msg <merlin1991> <to speak to anybody what is the comand> |
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| 22:22.06 | Drathir | there is any ca-cert updates? |
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| 22:29.31 | ron0062000 | merlin: what is the command to speak to anybody |
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| 22:36.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | ron0062000: private chat between two? |
| 22:36.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | /query <nick> |
| 22:36.46 | GI_Jack | ron0062000, /msg |
| 22:36.56 | GI_Jack | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.00 | GI_Jack | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:54.49 | ron0062000 | so dose anyone know when truecrypt will be update |
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| 22:59.12 | GI_Jack | ron0062000, whats wrong with ti |
| 23:00.19 | ron0062000 | want open 4 new user |
| 23:01.20 | ron0062000 | and it"s gone from rep. |
| 23:01.21 | GI_Jack | ?? |
| 23:02.29 | ron0062000 | sorry I mean drop box |
| 23:02.31 | GI_Jack | I still got a local copy on my n900 so I'm gonna back it up reall quickly |
| 23:08.47 | Luke-Jr | is tempted to post a self-nomination for whatever these nominations are for, and unsubscribe <.< |
| 23:09.36 | Drathir | what about dropn900 ? |
| 23:09.58 | r00t|home | n900fly |
| 23:10.21 | ron0062000 | it's gone |
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| 23:11.00 | Drathir | mean app DropN900 why gone? any reason? security issues? |
| 23:11.21 | ron0062000 | yes |
| 23:11.44 | ron0062000 | 4 new user |
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| 23:22.33 | Drathir | any info about that security issues? |
| 23:53.56 | ron0062000 | how do u set the mode to +1 in x-chat on n900 anyone? |
