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| 02:51.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | wookey: see my post on tmo about "hotswapping battery, possible" |
| 02:52.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=57734 |
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| 08:14.14 | Macer | hm |
| 08:14.22 | Macer | where is the picasa plugin? |
| 08:14.49 | Macer | i remember there being one |
| 08:17.34 | Macer | oh it is in devel? wow |
| 08:17.41 | Macer | since 2011? |
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| 08:23.01 | Macer | hm |
| 08:23.06 | Macer | it doesnt seem to be in devel |
| 08:23.09 | Macer | wth? |
| 08:23.53 | Macer | oh. there it i |
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| 10:22.37 | BigBoxDriver | Hi folks, curious question: Just read Soundwave for N9 is now available. Would it also run on the N900? |
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| 10:37.59 | dimir | $ date +%H%M |
| 10:38.00 | dimir | 1337 |
| 10:38.00 | dimir | \o/ |
| 10:39.13 | dimir | damn, wrong channel |
| 10:39.16 | dimir | :-D |
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| 10:44.35 | jaska | 13:37:59 < dimir> $ date +%H%M |
| 10:44.39 | jaska | so it was at the last second :D |
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| 10:54.10 | dimir | ye |
| 10:54.11 | dimir | :-D |
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| 11:53.37 | fasta | Is there some way I can upgrade n900 software in an unattended way? |
| 11:54.03 | fasta | The whole 'do your really want to do this' stuff is sluggish. |
| 11:54.11 | fasta | In fact, the whole phone feels sluggish. |
| 12:00.38 | marmoute | fasta: point? |
| 12:01.21 | fasta | The point being that apt-get should never have been used on the n900 and is likely a contributing factor its commercial failure. |
| 12:01.42 | fasta | The point being that Nokia engineers were clueless when they selected apt-get. |
| 12:01.51 | jacekowski | fasta: have you ever used android on phone with similiar CPU |
| 12:01.59 | marmoute | what the problème with apt-get here exactly ? |
| 12:02.10 | fasta | jacekowski: perhaps they are clueless too. |
| 12:02.21 | fasta | Wouldn't surprise me given the way the Chrome build system worked. |
| 12:02.30 | jacekowski | fasta: N900 was really fast 4 years ago when it was released |
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| 12:02.57 | jacekowski | now phones have 3x clock and 4x amount of cores |
| 12:03.02 | jacekowski | and 4x ram |
| 12:03.17 | jacekowski | and apt-get isn't the problem |
| 12:03.20 | jacekowski | HAM is |
| 12:03.33 | marmoute | still fails to see how apt-get have anything to do with the problem |
| 12:13.45 | wookey | fasta: use apt-get from the command-line - it's a great deal faster. It's the GUI wrapper that seems to be impressively slow |
| 12:14.44 | fasta | How can I call apt-get in such a way that it does the equivalent of HAM? |
| 12:14.49 | fasta | (just the upgrade part) |
| 12:15.23 | jacekowski | apt-get upgrade |
| 12:15.30 | jacekowski | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 12:15.41 | fasta | jacekowski: which one? |
| 12:16.34 | marmoute | apt-get update # fetch latest packages definition |
| 12:16.44 | marmoute | apt-get dist-upgrade # upgrade the whole system |
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| 12:31.31 | GeneralAntilles | Man, SD69 is really going to town with the official titles |
| 12:31.52 | GeneralAntilles | I'm starting to fear a culture purge and re-education camps. |
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| 14:41.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: where? |
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| 14:56.27 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, Foundation Chairman Samoff and the like |
| 14:57.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh |
| 14:57.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | I got a date at my doctor, to treat my rob-eczema |
| 14:57.59 | GeneralAntilles | Sounds expensive |
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| 15:22.49 | ShadowJK | It's fairly impressive, how on irc it seems hifo is less cooperative with maemo users than nokia was :-) |
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| 15:38.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: what about today's MWKN, I seem to have seen a few twitter notes by jaffa that looked "promising" |
| 15:39.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: only on IRC? |
| 15:40.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: btw you as HiFo ComOfficer, are you fine with the way Rob posts his rant in a way that looks like official agreed-upon BoD common sense? |
| 15:41.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://hildonfoundation.org/an-update-on-hildon-foundation-council-and-maemo-community-council so no ambiguities may come up what i'm talking about |
| 15:42.04 | GeneralAntilles | Not particularly, no. |
| 15:42.16 | GeneralAntilles | b |
| 15:42.43 | GeneralAntilles | Let him hang himself |
| 15:42.47 | rm_work | T_T |
| 15:43.06 | rm_work | is sad about the state of the community as it degrades over time |
| 15:43.16 | GeneralAntilles | There were no stories to summarize when I went to do MWKN last night |
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| 15:46.00 | rm_work | err, is he referring to HIMSELF when he says "Director Bauer"? |
| 15:52.21 | jacekowski | hifo is just a mistake |
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| 15:52.34 | jacekowski | it should be that hifo bod == community council |
| 15:59.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | WOODY TO THE RESCUE YAY!!! |
| 15:59.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | thank God he's back and active |
| 16:01.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems he's 10000 times better at answering Rob in 2 terse sentences than my answers ever could be, no matter if a short rant or I write monologues that nobody reads/understands |
| 16:02.08 | kerio | by the way, linode was apparently pwned quite hard, two weeks ago |
| 16:02.22 | kerio | so be careful if you have a box there |
| 16:02.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | wtf linode? |
| 16:02.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | aah, i don't |
| 16:02.33 | kerio | hetzner, but french |
| 16:02.48 | kerio | hm, only VPS though |
| 16:03.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, the French. Encryption is illegal in France I heard |
| 16:03.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's what it earns them |
| 16:03.18 | kerio | apparently they're not french |
| 16:03.22 | kerio | who i was thinking about then? |
| 16:03.24 | kerio | *was i |
| 16:03.38 | kerio | anyway, linode knew about the hack two weeks ago |
| 16:03.41 | kerio | and they said nothing until now |
| 16:03.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe, now they're dead |
| 16:04.20 | kerio | one of the dudes responsible for the hack went on their IRC channel and said "i'm in ur service hackin ur box" |
| 16:04.30 | kerio | http://fenrir.aerdan.org/linode.log if you're interested, it's quite fun |
| 16:04.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | this is very much like a ricine poisoning |
| 16:04.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | you either amputate the limb in 2 days, or you die |
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| 17:23.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | rm_work: >>Although the Bylaws state that the Hildon Foundation Council is to be determined by an election of the Hildon membership, they do not state how the first Hildon Foundation Council is to be determined.<< doesn't make him (SD69/Rob_Director_Bauer) think that there must be something wrong in the way he reads stuff. That's odd |
| 17:23.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | and wtf is >>Hildon membership<< ? |
| 17:23.44 | rm_work | lol |
| 17:24.39 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: being a member of Hildon? :P |
| 17:25.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | so wtf is hildon? |
| 17:26.15 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: application framework? |
| 17:26.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly the whole sentence is ambiguous and doesn't make much sense to me |
| 17:28.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | *I* think the bylaws state that "the HFC gets elected by the maemo community, according to election rules provided by the inaugural HFC (which is implicitly assumed is the very same entity as MCC)" |
| 17:29.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | to me no other interpretation makes the slightest sense |
| 17:29.20 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: hmm, who do you argue with? I mean here, on #maemo. I was under the impression that this is commonly accepted |
| 17:30.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | I just wanted to expose my POV for public review and discussion/critics |
| 17:30.10 | freemangordon | aah, ok |
| 17:30.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | good to hear you concur with it |
| 17:30.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | I sometimes start to wonder if I maybe silently go silly |
| 17:31.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | and don't understand stuff anymore, due to Alzheimer or whatever |
| 17:31.35 | freemangordon | is verifying with google WTF "inaugural" means |
| 17:32.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | initial/first - particularly pre-first-election |
| 17:32.10 | freemangordon | yep, got it |
| 17:35.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | (whom i'm arguing with) I ask for possible better interpretations of Rob's statement, since for me it's more and more falling to nonsensical pieces the more I try to grasp the true meaning of it |
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| 17:37.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | IOW we again have a situation where everybody thinks Rob said "A" and in a few months he dissects his own statement and explains to us that it meant "B" |
| 17:37.17 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: I am still to see anyone but sd69 to defend that "statement", most probably because it is not clear what exactly he wants |
| 17:37.40 | freemangordon | at least to me it is not, but that could be my English |
| 17:37.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | same here |
| 17:43.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Council is to be determined by an election of the Hildon membership<< is a gibberish to me, after 10th time of reading it |
| 17:45.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | I *could* read it like >>council is to be voted by members of the Hildon group<< (whatever hildon group is then) |
| 17:45.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | but it could mean something completely different, and my english is not good enough to grok it |
| 17:47.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | something like "membership in the hildon group determines if you are a councilor" |
| 17:47.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | "and you become member of hildon group by some obscure election" |
| 17:49.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | hums F.Z - the muffin man, wonders how that came in now |
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| 19:45.54 | ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer05; i only occasionally read irc, and nothing else, no time |
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| 19:51.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: aaah. Stay with that, it saves your day |
| 20:08.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm so happy about woody finally showing up on this thread, putting everything into shape and context |
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| 21:17.50 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~botsnack |
| 21:17.50 | infobot | thanks, DocScrutinizer51 |
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| 22:27.25 | Macer | wth |
| 22:27.33 | Macer | the cam is saving to the root dir of the device |
| 22:27.35 | Macer | ? |
| 22:27.39 | Macer | why isn't it saving to .camera ? |
| 22:27.56 | Macer | there doesn't seem to be an obvious way to change the dir |
| 22:37.56 | sixwheeledbeast | Macer: ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs |
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| 23:48.53 | Macer | i don't see that file anywhere |
| 23:49.12 | Macer | user-dirs.dirs isn't anywhere to be found |
| 23:49.23 | Macer | that might explain why it isn't working properly :-/ |
| 23:50.50 | Macer | looks around |
| 23:53.35 | Macer | heh. maemo.org seems so slow nowadays :) |
| 23:57.27 | Macer | DocScrutinizer51: is this some awkward cssu bug with the cam saving to the root instead of .camera or DCIM etc? |
| 23:57.32 | Macer | or am i just missing something here |