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| 00:59.55 | Drathir | ~OC |
| 00:59.56 | infobot | hmm... oc is an Optical Carrier, An OC1 has 672 channels or 44.736 Mbit/s |
| 01:00.28 | Drathir | ~n900 OC |
| 01:01.28 | Drathir | ~overclocking |
| 01:01.28 | infobot | "OK, listen up. This is your CPU." apt drops the CPU into a hot frying pan. "This is your CPU on overclocking. Any questions?" |
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| 04:21.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | *no* april fool - or yes? http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20130408_002.jpg ... 004 |
| 04:30.27 | raid_ | has anyone found a way to get google authenticator codes on their n900? |
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| 05:29.05 | rikanee | raid_, it's available for Harmattan, so I guess you could use marmistr's thing to run it |
| 05:29.05 | rikanee | http://store.ovi.com/content/273598 |
| 05:30.21 | raid_ | i knew that was there for the N9, but i didn't know someone made something to run N9 apps |
| 05:30.31 | rikanee | MeeCoLay, I think |
| 05:31.44 | raid_ | rikanee: this? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85716 |
| 05:32.13 | raid_ | rikanee: i mean: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84482 |
| 05:32.20 | raid_ | mecolay, ok |
| 05:32.24 | rikanee | yes, that. |
| 05:33.54 | raid_ | this is good news. thank you! |
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| 06:26.29 | thedead1440 | ~doing the qwert123 |
| 06:26.35 | thedead1440 | ~doing the qwerty123 |
| 06:26.48 | thedead1440 | ~qwerty123 |
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| 06:50.19 | Macer | one of those you get what you pay for moments i'm sure heh |
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| 07:34.08 | XATRIX | Hi, can't find nmbd in repositories |
| 07:34.41 | XATRIX | I did install of smb (tinysmb) but there's no nmbd |
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| 07:41.54 | rikanee | XATRIX: Samba 3.5.6 (in -devel) has nmbd. |
| 07:42.17 | rikanee | try dpkg -L smb | grep nmbd |
| 07:43.11 | raid_ | is apt-get dist-upgrade supposed to work otb on the n900? |
| 07:43.26 | rikanee | raid_: watch for packages that do get upgraded. |
| 07:43.44 | raid_ | rikanee: you mean in the app manager? |
| 07:43.47 | rikanee | DO NOT fist-upgrade when there's a fremantle-pr package that's offered for upgrade. |
| 07:43.53 | rikanee | *dist-upgrade |
| 07:44.20 | rikanee | raid_: if you're upgrading CSSU, what you do is "apt-get install mp-fremantle-community-pr" |
| 07:44.34 | rikanee | which pulls in all the packages requested by the upgrade. |
| 07:44.47 | rikanee | don't upgrade CSSU with dist-upgrade. |
| 07:45.19 | rikanee | although for apps that pull in new libraries, and apt-get normally skips over them when you run "apt-get upgrade", it's up to you whether to accept them as part of dist-upgrade. |
| 07:45.22 | raid_ | it just says upstart has unmet dependencies: sysvinit-utils 2.86 and busybox 3:1.6.1 |
| 07:45.44 | rikanee | alright, what repo did you enable. |
| 07:46.04 | raid_ | oh i'm using the skeiro from when the main repo went down |
| 07:46.19 | rikanee | weird, why is upstart being upgraded? |
| 07:47.16 | raid_ | i have the testing and dev repos |
| 07:47.45 | raid_ | current version of upstart is 0.3.8-67 |
| 07:48.14 | raid_ | not sure what it's trying to upgrade to |
| 07:49.41 | raid_ | i have extras, extras-devel, extras-testing, community, and community-testing |
| 07:49.55 | raid_ | from skeiron.org |
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| 07:54.17 | raid_ | 'apt-cache showpkg upstart' shows a slightly newer upstart version 0.3.8-68+0cssu0 from community-testing |
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| 07:55.12 | raid_ | i can disable the community repo, dist-upgrade, and then reenable the repo |
| 07:56.20 | raid_ | rikanee: is that how you do it to avoid that fremantle-pr problem you mentioned? |
| 07:59.05 | raid_ | i would guess so. thanks |
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| 08:49.40 | luf | XATRIX: did you read the TMO thread I posted yesterday? |
| 08:49.56 | luf | XATRIX: BTW why do you need nmb on n900? |
| 08:50.00 | damo22 | is there a google maps app for maemo? if not, is there an api i could use to write one? |
| 08:51.08 | XATRIX | luf: sorry, i didn't read it, didn't notice your post. Because i need to make my mobile to be accessed via Windows Network |
| 08:51.17 | XATRIX | Instead of "\\192.168.1.90" |
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| 08:51.39 | luf | XATRIX: what about dns? |
| 08:51.45 | XATRIX | Simply go to Network, see available hosts -> N-900 -> pass/login and see shares |
| 08:52.02 | XATRIX | luf: dns is an external nameserver |
| 08:52.08 | luf | XATRIX: it's the opposite way you asked yesterday :) |
| 08:52.11 | XATRIX | I need it to coop with DHCP |
| 08:52.16 | XATRIX | that's why i need nmbd |
| 08:52.38 | damo22 | why not assign a dhcp fixed host to your n900 |
| 08:53.17 | luf | XATRIX: what about some wins on windows side? Also not usable for you? |
| 08:53.27 | XATRIX | Because i want my handset to be available via Windows networking allover the worl :) |
| 08:53.43 | damo22 | so you can get hacked over netbios? |
| 08:53.50 | XATRIX | Nope |
| 08:54.00 | XATRIX | I will enable smbd on deman |
| 08:54.39 | luf | http://maemo.org/packages/view/smb/ ? |
| 08:55.22 | XATRIX | Yea, already trying |
| 08:55.39 | XATRIX | The best approach was tinysmb, but it doesn't have nmbd with it |
| 08:56.06 | luf | I think you can use tinysmb + only nmbd for the package. |
| 08:57.01 | XATRIX | Yeap, but there's no nmbd withot smb |
| 08:57.10 | XATRIX | have to install complete smb package |
| 08:57.34 | luf | Yeah but you don't need to use it. Or you can just copy out the nmbd part. |
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| 09:05.03 | luf | XATRIX: as I see on azsmb page it should include nmb support. |
| 09:05.08 | SpeedEvil | there isn't a Google maps app. there are APIs, but they are very limited, and have problems, for example, you can't legally cache map files |
| 09:05.12 | SpeedEvil | files |
| 09:05.31 | SpeedEvil | there are a few map apps that do, however |
| 09:07.29 | XATRIX | luf: where did you find it ? |
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| 09:08.17 | luf | http://members.inode.at/anton.zechner/az/Doku/SmbServer.htm |
| 09:08.31 | luf | "home page" http://members.inode.at/anton.zechner/az/AzSmb.en.htm |
| 09:08.45 | luf | But maybe we have too old version on N900. |
| 09:09.38 | XATRIX | cool, does it have any GUI configurator for shares and users ? |
| 09:10.21 | luf | XATRIX: it's tinysmb ;) |
| 09:10.35 | XATRIX | hm |
| 09:12.07 | XATRIX | Nokia-N900:~# apt-cache search azsmb |
| 09:12.07 | XATRIX | tinysmb - small SMB Server |
| 09:12.08 | XATRIX | O_o |
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| 09:15.02 | raid_ | apt-get dist-upgrade is still trying to upgrade upstart, even after i removed all sources except stable and ran apt-get update |
| 09:15.42 | luf | XATRIX: did you find the easy way for accessing windows shares from N900? |
| 09:15.49 | raid_ | 'apt-cache showpkg upstart' is not showing any newer versions than what i already have |
| 09:16.22 | XATRIX | luf: negative |
| 09:16.29 | luf | XATRIX: this seems promising: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/wizard-mounter/ |
| 09:16.57 | XATRIX | luf: check this out http://my-maemo.com/software/applications.php?fldAuto=1853&faq=37 |
| 09:17.28 | XATRIX | it tells that i still have to provide IP address instead of click on a picture of the host in network manager of windows |
| 09:21.34 | luf | XATRIX: but tinysmb source code says that it starts the nmb ... |
| 09:22.18 | luf | Do you have running tinysmb? Can you use netstat on N900? I think you'll see that nmb is listening on N900 with tinysmb |
| 09:23.11 | XATRIX | hm.. wizard-mounter is good, but it still require me to specify share to mount. there's no gui share-explorer. I mean, what if i don't know the exact share location |
| 09:23.27 | XATRIX | Nokia-N900:~# ps aux | grep smb |
| 09:23.29 | XATRIX | 10711 root 7524 S tinysmbd -q -d |
| 09:23.30 | XATRIX | 11745 root 2088 S grep smb |
| 09:23.30 | XATRIX | Nokia-N900:~# |
| 09:23.37 | XATRIX | skip the grep string |
| 09:27.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | rikanee: dist-upgrade is forbidden |
| 09:27.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | err |
| 09:27.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | raid_: ^^^ |
| 09:33.09 | luf | XATRIX: netstat -ln | grep :139 |
| 09:33.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | I always thought hildon/osso filemanager knows about samba shares |
| 09:33.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | I might be wrong |
| 09:34.08 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: hmm, no, you are not. iirc |
| 09:34.23 | luf | DocScrutinizer05: yes it knows ;) But you have to specify them somehow. It doesn't scan all possible ... |
| 09:34.32 | freemangordon | luf: hi |
| 09:34.41 | luf | freemangordon: hello |
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| 09:35.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | so what we're talking about here? some avahi shit? |
| 09:37.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw most AP keep the IP for a particular MAC. Usually they even know about clients' *names* and do proper DNS (if configured to do local DNS-proxy instead of just passing thru DNS queries to public DNS server) |
| 09:38.06 | luf | DocScrutinizer05: 1) how to configure the smb shares (how to find them) and 2) the opposite way - how to access N900 as smb server from windows world. |
| 09:39.52 | XATRIX | tcp 0 0 192.168.0.20:139 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
| 09:40.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | so maybe do a `host -a 192.168.0.20` (or whatever the windoze equiv) on your PC? |
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| 09:41.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | you might be surprised |
| 09:42.59 | luf | XATRIX: so you have running nmbd in tinysmb ;) |
| 09:43.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | and even when your AP doesn't do proper rDNS, it still might know the IP for whatever name your N900 is using |
| 09:44.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | N810192.168.4.4300:1D:6E:9C:00:9Cnever |
| 09:44.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | RM696-N9192.168.4.4804:A8:2A:1F:92:5Anever |
| 09:44.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | RM680-BP192.168.4.4990:CF:15:1B:CB:7Enever |
| 09:44.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ^^^ excerpt of my ddwrt "LAN" tab |
| 09:45.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | (I don't use local DNS proxy, so can't check. This however is not the usual default config) |
| 09:46.25 | XATRIX | DocScrutinizer05: u mean, nslookup ? what can it give me ? |
| 09:46.40 | XATRIX | luf: Not sure about |
| 09:46.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway the machines' names are not "hardcoded" in AP/router, they are delivered from the machines during DHCP |
| 09:47.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | XATRIX: you can reach your N900 under a certain "domain" no matter what IP it got from DHCP |
| 09:48.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually the same name you find in `cat /etc/hostname` on N900 |
| 09:48.56 | XATRIX | hm |
| 09:49.00 | luf | XATRIX: 139 is nmb port So I'm sure. However tinysmb can't be nmb master so you need some workgroup with win/samba machine which act as master browser. |
| 09:49.12 | XATRIX | when i open Network Places in windows |
| 09:49.41 | XATRIX | I can see 3 hosts there, XATIX-PC(desktop win) Acer-d255e(latpop) and Nokia-N900 |
| 09:49.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | surprise |
| 09:50.02 | XATRIX | If i click Acer-d255e - it asks password,then list the shares in |
| 09:50.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 09:50.17 | luf | XATRIX: you see Nokia-N900 so the nmb is working on N900 side. |
| 09:50.20 | raid_ | DocScrutinizer05: dist-upgrade is forbidden? |
| 09:50.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, totally forbidden |
| 09:50.34 | raid_ | DocScrutinizer05: why are there 2 docscrutinizers? |
| 09:50.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | why not? |
| 09:50.51 | XATRIX | When i click Nokia-N900 - it gives me an error: "\\Nokia-N900 is not accessible. The network path was not found" |
| 09:50.56 | raid_ | DocScrutinizer05: because it makes replying to you harder |
| 09:51.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, easier |
| 09:51.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
| 09:51.10 | XATRIX | But i still be able to access and list shares via "\\192.168.0.20\ |
| 09:51.12 | raid_ | ugh |
| 09:51.34 | raid_ | DocScrutinizer05: i have to hit tab twice |
| 09:51.37 | luf | XATRIX: I'm affraid it's dns/wins related. |
| 09:51.51 | XATRIX | wins = nmbd |
| 09:51.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | you wouldn't want to my RX51 aka N900 if I'm sitting on my PC-05 |
| 09:52.03 | raid_ | DocScrutinizer05: well, what is the recommended means of upgrading? |
| 09:52.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | raid_: HAM |
| 09:52.30 | luf | XATRIX: I think not fully. However it's dns related. let's. |
| 09:52.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | particularly for CSSU |
| 09:52.40 | raid_ | DocScrutinizer05: fine. i hate HAM it's so slow |
| 09:53.01 | XATRIX | luf: yea, but there's no DNS definitions / hosts/lmhosts file for acer-d255e |
| 09:53.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's way faster than you doing the upgrade manually on apt-get |
| 09:53.16 | XATRIX | if i do service nmbd stop - on my laptop - it gets unaccessible |
| 09:53.28 | XATRIX | But i can get access back via \\192.168.1.2 |
| 09:53.39 | XATRIX | So, nmbd is critical |
| 09:54.12 | XATRIX | http://fpaste.org/q1HB/ |
| 09:56.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | really prefers "sftp://iron900" in konqueror |
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| 09:56.38 | XATRIX | ah... how do i hate this way. I really prefer flash disks |
| 09:56.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900192.168.4.41EC:9B:5B:02:11:02never |
| 09:57.02 | XATRIX | But i have to make my handset be accessible via standard windows shareing |
| 09:57.07 | luf | let's try nmblookup |
| 09:57.17 | luf | XATRIX: ^^ |
| 09:57.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | windows and standard in one sentence, ugh |
| 09:57.43 | XATRIX | My users are a bit dumb in our work-network, and they don't know about \\some-freaking-ip |
| 09:58.23 | XATRIX | xatrix@Acer-D255E:~$ nmblookup acer-d255e |
| 09:58.23 | XATRIX | querying acer-d255e on 192.168.0.255 |
| 09:58.23 | XATRIX | 192.168.0.14 acer-d255e<00> |
| 09:58.28 | XATRIX | localhost resolve |
| 09:58.45 | XATRIX | xatrix@Acer-D255E:~$ nmblookup developer-1 querying developer-1 on 192.168.0.255 192.168.0.2 developer-1<00> |
| 09:58.59 | XATRIX | xatrix@Acer-D255E:~$ nmblookup Nokia-n900 |
| 09:58.59 | XATRIX | querying Nokia-n900 on 192.168.0.255 |
| 09:58.59 | XATRIX | name_query failed to find name Nokia-n900 |
| 09:59.34 | XATRIX | check this out.. it's interresting :( http://fpaste.org/P9mb/ |
| 10:00.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | *shrug* 192.168.0.255 is broadcast, isn't it? |
| 10:00.12 | XATRIX | developer-1 - is a host with win7 |
| 10:00.32 | XATRIX | DocScrutinizer05: smb/wins uses broadcast |
| 10:01.02 | XATRIX | Also, smb-transfer mode uses UDP as long as i know |
| 10:01.33 | luf | XATRIX: older version. The newer is using tcp 445 AFAIK |
| 10:01.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | I wouldn't want to run a daemon on N900 that listens to broadcasts |
| 10:01.55 | XATRIX | luf: i have this one port on my linux laptop |
| 10:01.57 | XATRIX | acer |
| 10:02.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | but well, that's just me |
| 10:02.24 | XATRIX | DocScrutinizer05: as i previously mentioned, it's on demand daemon |
| 10:02.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | eh? |
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| 10:02.52 | XATRIX | I need something to share - i start tinysmb, i will shut the daemon down after i finish |
| 10:03.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, whaever works for you |
| 10:03.54 | luf | XATRIX: let's try start tinysmb in some debug/verbose mode to see more. |
| 10:04.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think there are less complicated setups for both-ends guided file transfer |
| 10:05.24 | luf | XATRIX: you should have correct workgroup as you can see Nokia-N900 in net places ... |
| 10:05.33 | XATRIX | Sure... |
| 10:05.45 | XATRIX | I have a proper group. Moreover, i see it :) |
| 10:05.51 | XATRIX | I can't access it :) |
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| 10:09.30 | XATRIX | wait a bit i'll upload the image to |
| 10:10.29 | XATRIX | http://imgur.com/iqghxP2 - that's what i mean |
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| 10:25.25 | luf | XATRIX: nmblookup -M Workgroup |
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| 10:25.45 | luf | It seems you have no master browser for workgroup on the net ... |
| 10:26.01 | XATRIX | master browser ? O_o |
| 10:26.02 | luf | It should be fixed via dns ... |
| 10:26.09 | luf | Yes. |
| 10:26.13 | XATRIX | I have no domain controller you mean ? |
| 10:26.21 | luf | XATRIX: no |
| 10:26.43 | XATRIX | xatrix@Acer-D255E:~$ nmblookup -M WORKGROUP |
| 10:26.43 | XATRIX | querying WORKGROUP on 192.168.0.255 |
| 10:26.43 | XATRIX | 192.168.0.14 WORKGROUP<1d> |
| 10:27.05 | luf | nmb is voting the master browser who is collecting info about the workgroup. |
| 10:27.12 | XATRIX | it's an ip of acer-d255 |
| 10:28.10 | luf | XATRIX: what is nmb (browser) config on acer? |
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| 10:33.33 | XATRIX | luf: i see no extra config for nmbd |
| 10:33.41 | XATRIX | i have only for smb.conf |
| 10:33.59 | luf | XATRIX: it's in smb.conf ;) |
| 10:34.10 | XATRIX | :) |
| 10:34.41 | XATRIX | acer laptop http://fpaste.org/N11j/ |
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| 10:43.21 | luf | The proble is that tinysmb is not listening broadcasts ... or N900 drops broadcasts. |
| 10:44.06 | luf | XATRIX: nmblookup -U 192.168.1.2 Nokia-N900 |
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| 10:50.10 | XATRIX | what is 192.168.1.2 ? |
| 10:50.16 | XATRIX | I have no such addr |
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| 10:50.53 | XATRIX | ah...ok you mean unicast of the handset |
| 10:51.06 | luf | I think it's you N900 IP |
| 10:51.12 | luf | *your |
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| 10:52.39 | XATRIX | xatrix@Acer-D255E:~$ nmblookup -U 192.168.0.20 Nokia-n900 |
| 10:52.39 | XATRIX | querying Nokia-n900 on 192.168.0.20 |
| 10:52.39 | XATRIX | 192.168.0.20 Nokia-n900<00> |
| 10:52.39 | XATRIX | xatrix@Acer-D255E:~$ |
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| 10:53.26 | luf | XATRIX: so the only problem is that the nmb in tinysmb isn't listen for broadcasts ... |
| 10:53.48 | cityLights | hi |
| 10:54.06 | cityLights | is there a bin file to make the n900 to vibrate |
| 10:54.56 | XATRIX | luf: maemo doesn't support broadcasts ? |
| 10:58.11 | XATRIX | luf: http://fpaste.org/10Ib/ |
| 10:58.14 | XATRIX | Any ideas ? |
| 10:58.19 | XATRIX | tinysmb is running |
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| 11:05.10 | luf | You can't start nmbd while tinysmb is running |
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| 11:05.54 | luf | XATRIX: very ugly workaround is to iptables and dnat broadcast for udp 137 port to the IP. |
| 11:06.17 | luf | XATRIX: the second way is to fix tinysmb to listen broadcast as nmbd do ... |
| 11:10.10 | XATRIX | luf: fix tinysmb's code you mean ? :) |
| 11:10.19 | XATRIX | It doesn't have any config options for |
| 11:10.20 | luf | XATRIX: yes |
| 11:10.29 | XATRIX | You kidding me :) |
| 11:10.53 | luf | No |
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| 11:22.49 | luf | XATRIX: I have it :) |
| 11:23.08 | luf | I just have to check that I close it also correctly |
| 11:23.21 | XATRIX | close ? |
| 11:23.28 | XATRIX | have you fixed it ? |
| 11:23.56 | luf | XATRIX: close the broadcast socket also when shuting down the tinysmb. |
| 11:26.01 | XATRIX | Doesn't it close itself ? |
| 11:26.08 | XATRIX | And how can I |
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| 11:29.33 | luf | XATRIX: wait few more minutes ;) |
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| 11:31.38 | XATRIX | I'm totally rely on you! :) |
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| 11:38.37 | luf | XATRIX: are you using CSSU? |
| 11:41.11 | Drathir | using |
| 11:41.12 | XATRIX | Sure |
| 11:41.25 | XATRIX | Doc advised me ;) |
| 11:41.35 | XATRIX | Should i remove it ? ;) |
| 11:41.40 | luf | let's try http://merlin1991.at/~luf/tinysmb/tinysmb_1.0.6maemo2_armel.deb |
| 11:41.52 | XATRIX | em... |
| 11:42.00 | XATRIX | what should i do ? |
| 11:42.10 | luf | XATRIX: No I just built it againist CSSU-T |
| 11:42.22 | Drathir | samba on n900? |
| 11:42.51 | luf | XATRIX: wget to N900 and dpkg -i ;) |
| 11:43.28 | luf | Drathir: nothing new just fixed one small nmb issue (if you don't have properly setup dns) |
| 11:43.30 | XATRIX | it's not good |
| 11:43.38 | XATRIX | cause it will ruin dependencies |
| 11:43.43 | XATRIX | Like apt-get does |
| 11:45.09 | luf | XATRIX: ? |
| 11:45.47 | XATRIX | Doc told me apt-get install / dpkg is a bad way to install software |
| 11:45.57 | XATRIX | Only HAM or Fast App manager |
| 11:46.26 | luf | DocS are you here around? |
| 11:47.13 | thedead1440 | XATRIX: most probably you are taking Doc's statement out of context... |
| 11:47.36 | Drathir | this smb is really tiny :p |
| 11:47.36 | XATRIX | it's can be possible |
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| 11:49.17 | luf | XATRIX: it depends on you ;) feel free to wait for DocS and ask him. |
| 11:49.47 | Drathir | XATRIX: dpkg --info tinysmb_1.0.6maemo2_armel.deb |
| 11:50.01 | Drathir | all dependencies |
| 11:51.32 | Drathir | XATRIX: yea its bad thing f you install from apt without a little thinking what you are really doin |
| 11:51.59 | XATRIX | :) |
| 11:52.27 | XATRIX | my apt-get upgrade want's to ruin my packages that are exactly tinysmb dependencies ;) |
| 11:52.34 | raid__ | what is meecolay and how is it supposed to help me run this N9 app, GAuth |
| 11:52.57 | Drathir | but if you install packages with head and official repositories in most of packages all should be ok |
| 11:53.33 | raid__ | XATRIX: apt-get install seems to work fine for me. but upgrading should probably be done through HAM |
| 11:53.52 | XATRIX | ok |
| 11:54.05 | XATRIX | luf: do i have to uninstall my current version of tinysmb ? |
| 11:54.19 | Drathir | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.46 | luf | It'll replace. So if you'll feel safer you can remove tinysmb (also tinysmbgui due to deps). Install tinysmb I provided and again install tinysmbgui. |
| 11:56.24 | Drathir | luf: can i priv you? |
| 11:56.39 | XATRIX | Drathir: http://fpaste.org/TAOc/ |
| 11:56.57 | luf | Drathir: what does mean priv? |
| 11:57.17 | Drathir | luf: private msg there |
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| 11:59.45 | luf | Drathir: I can't deny it to you ;) Feel free to contact me how you like. |
| 11:59.46 | luf | XATRIX: don't do that. just wget + dpkg -i |
| 11:59.56 | XATRIX | O_o |
| 12:00.01 | XATRIX | ok |
| 12:01.09 | luf | XATRIX: dpkg will fail if dependencies aren't met |
| 12:02.11 | XATRIX | hope it's ok, http://fpaste.org/GPyG/ |
| 12:02.46 | luf | XATRIX: yes it is. So let's start tinysmb and try it from win machine ... I'm curious ... |
| 12:03.23 | XATRIX | no need for extra system restart ? |
| 12:04.22 | luf | For sure not. N900 isn't win machine :D |
| 12:04.40 | XATRIX | Crap, it works! |
| 12:04.52 | luf | XATRIX: :D |
| 12:05.05 | XATRIX | Holy shit.. You're a real coder! |
| 12:05.52 | luf | XATRIX: Let's try more as I see samba is listening broadcast also on 138 port (and I don't add it to tinysmb as I'm not sure). |
| 12:05.58 | XATRIX | Maybe you know how to disable vibra for messages/IM but not for other stuff ? ) |
| 12:06.18 | XATRIX | Let's try more |
| 12:08.24 | luf | XATRIX: I was never interested in so I don't know (vibra). |
| 12:08.29 | Drathir | n900 isnt really a phone ^^ :p |
| 12:09.44 | luf | Drathir: It's the only true smartphone :D |
| 12:10.12 | Drathir | luf: i have little advice for you in default package files better change MyDocs to read only or wiev only... |
| 12:10.24 | raid__ | luf: it's a computer with phone capabilities |
| 12:11.17 | raid__ | has anyone gotten GAuth to work on the n900? |
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| 12:11.42 | raid__ | i need two-step verification and i don't want to buy an android just for that |
| 12:12.00 | Drathir | XATRIX: settings profiles but i dont know if its possible only for im messages... |
| 12:12.06 | luf | Drathir: I don't think it's something normal user wants. |
| 12:13.50 | XATRIX | Drathir: as long as i know i can only enable/disable vibra for the whole profile... But how to make it not to vibrate on new messages |
| 12:14.02 | Drathir | luf: but this looks like tittle security issue if r+w acces for all MyDocs by default is setting up, but this only my opinion about that... |
| 12:14.04 | luf | XATRIX: this is right TMO thread you're looking for I think (vibra) http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=42091 |
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| 12:14.52 | luf | Drathir: but that's usually why users installed tinysmb. |
| 12:15.15 | luf | Drathir: If not they can change the config. |
| 12:15.29 | XATRIX | luf: thanks! |
| 12:16.48 | luf | XATRIX: don't thanks to me ... Just uncle Google did the job ;) |
| 12:17.41 | Drathir | luf: yea thats tru, maybe i to addicted by linux policy statments i mean if you want to something do you must first enable/allow that ^^ different is in winscary system :p |
| 12:17.47 | Drathir | true* |
| 12:18.45 | XATRIX | ; |
| 12:19.33 | luf | Drathir: maybe that's the reason why the win/apple is so popular ... Unfortunately nearly nobody takes care about security :( |
| 12:20.40 | raid__ | tell me about it, no one here even has two-step verification in their phone |
| 12:21.41 | luf | raid__: :) so you should be the first one |
| 12:21.58 | thedead1440 | raid__: doesn't gmail have application specific passwords to bypass 2-step verification on certain devices? |
| 12:22.39 | raid__ | luf: if i wrote it, no one would probably even use it :D |
| 12:22.55 | luf | raid__: And I'm surprised that google doesn't write GAuth for linux ... |
| 12:23.10 | Drathir | luf i dont like winscary because dont like if os do something above my back without my permission... |
| 12:23.21 | raid__ | luf: i have to exhaust the GAuth possibility first |
| 12:23.28 | raid__ | luf: they have an app for android and iOS |
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| 12:23.59 | raid__ | thedead1440: they let you receive your verification code via sms, but i haven't been able to test that yet |
| 12:24.15 | Drathir | raid__: two step mean security and pin code if that i using this in first way... |
| 12:24.18 | raid__ | thedead1440: that may not work for the website i need |
| 12:24.50 | thedead1440 | raid__: oh yes i have the same; they send me codes via sms but for some things like my n9(00) my main password doesn't work so i need to use the generated application specific passwords |
| 12:24.57 | raid__ | Drathir: what? |
| 12:25.28 | raid__ | thedead1440: yeah, i need that app on the n900 |
| 12:25.55 | Drathir | raid__: pone lock security code and pin security code, but maybe i miss understand what you mean... |
| 12:25.56 | raid__ | Drathir: "if that i using this in first way" |
| 12:26.11 | thedead1440 | raid__: no i meant there is a generated password from the web interfac; you can use that password instead everytime on all devices that lack the ability to have 2-step verification |
| 12:26.19 | thedead1440 | interface* |
| 12:27.01 | raid__ | thedead1440: hmm, google didn't mention it in their help article |
| 12:27.08 | Drathir | raid__: after reflash device i always enable phone security code pi always have on... |
| 12:27.53 | Drathir | but i see you have mean online 2 way weryfication... |
| 12:28.04 | thedead1440 | raid__: gmail->account->security->2-step settings->manage application-specific passwords |
| 12:28.20 | raid__ | Drathir: google authenicator is an app that generates time-dependent codes that you can use to log in to your accounts in addition to your password. |
| 12:28.35 | thedead1440 | that way you can generate one new password which is valid until you choose to disable it and can be used on any device w/o 2-step verification capability |
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| 12:30.38 | Drathir | raid__: how big is that security code? |
| 12:30.41 | raid__ | thedead1440: it's for a website actually |
| 12:30.53 | raid__ | Drathir: about 6 numerical digits |
| 12:30.58 | raid__ | *exactly |
| 12:31.54 | Drathir | how about bruteforce it? is any security aganist that? |
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| 12:32.41 | raid__ | thedead1440: i see the application specific passwords you're talking about. i don't think the website will take them |
| 12:33.18 | thedead1440 | raid__: try it first and also try the sms method; i use these two methods and *never* have had the need for a GAuth app... |
| 12:33.32 | raid__ | Drathir: yes, the codes are time-based, every 30 seconds they change |
| 12:33.53 | rikanee | raid__: there's a way to issue app-specific passwords |
| 12:33.56 | Drathir | i think the best way for now its a o-auth supported by tweetter apps really dont know your really password to auth with your account... |
| 12:34.05 | rikanee | they don't need secondary authentication. |
| 12:34.10 | raid__ | Drathir: there is probably also a lock-out from too many wrong codes |
| 12:34.43 | rikanee | Drathir: the problem is if your OAuth password or provider gets 0wn3d, so do you. |
| 12:34.49 | raid__ | rikanee: it's for a website, they require codes |
| 12:35.21 | raid__ | rikanee: i know, but this secures my end |
| 12:35.24 | rikanee | raid__: mmm. |
| 12:35.37 | Drathir | raid__: ok 30s looks like in most case enough its possible to crack with a big brandwidth but google servers should detect ddos and shut down the connection... |
| 12:35.42 | rikanee | I actually just switched to using 2-factor auth everywhere myself. |
| 12:36.04 | rikanee | Some websites allow you to specify a recovery number. |
| 12:36.38 | raid__ | rikanee: a lot of breeches in the past could have been avoided if the parties took advantage of the two-step verification they were offered |
| 12:37.02 | rikanee | raid__, indeed. |
| 12:37.20 | Drathir | rikanee: yes but all thime you can deny acces and thats oauth dont allow to change twitter settings i think... |
| 12:37.49 | raid__ | You can setup two factor authentication for your account through Google Authenticator (free Android and iOS app). This provides a higher level of security for your account through the use of one time access tokens in addition to your password. The application is available for iOS and Android devices and does not require a Google account. We ONLY support the Google Authenticator app; other applications WILL NOT work. |
| 12:38.00 | rikanee | raid__, I think 2-factor auth is a step towards certificate-based authentication. |
| 12:38.34 | rikanee | My dream is to have a USB stick or NFC app on your phone that you must use in conjunction with a passphrase to log in. |
| 12:39.10 | raid__ | rikanee: real two-factor auth means you have to use two of the following three things to prove your identity: something only you know, something only you have, something only you are |
| 12:39.37 | Drathir | raid__: this looks like secureapi to google accounts if google want should public that api code and other platform dev can addapt it... |
| 12:39.49 | rikanee | raid__: a RFID implant plus thumbprint would be great, but I'm squeamish. |
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| 12:39.59 | rikanee | Drathir: the API is open |
| 12:40.09 | raid__ | something you know is like a password, something you have is like a SMART card, something you are is like your fingerprint |
| 12:40.26 | rikanee | Google supplies source for a PAM module that interfaces with their Authenticator doohickey. |
| 12:40.28 | rikanee | BUT |
| 12:40.40 | raid__ | google authenticator attempts to emulate the "something you have" factor |
| 12:41.15 | raid__ | rikanee: that's for the server side |
| 12:41.18 | rikanee | IIRC you need to be connected to the Internet to use it because Google has the secret seed needed to spit out the proper codes. |
| 12:41.46 | rikanee | the spec is open though, so feel free to run your own code server. |
| 12:41.59 | rikanee | …if you don't trust Google with generating tokens for you. |
| 12:42.20 | raid__ | i trust it, i just need it on my n900 |
| 12:42.38 | raid__ | GAuth exists for the N9, but i don't know how to get it to work |
| 12:42.56 | raid__ | *i trust it enough |
| 12:43.23 | Drathir | raid__: if its deb package should work also... |
| 12:43.55 | raid__ | i actually installed it and am running it, but it's kind of weird |
| 12:44.15 | rikanee | raid__, what's weird? |
| 12:44.31 | raid__ | gauth |
| 12:45.04 | luf | Drathir: N9 is rpm based |
| 12:45.11 | rikanee | luf: Nope. |
| 12:45.19 | thedead1440 | luf: no its deb based |
| 12:45.21 | raid__ | http://store.ovi.com/content/273598 |
| 12:46.48 | luf | Wow. |
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| 12:49.49 | Drathir | luf: O.o redhat inside? |
| 12:49.51 | raid_ | i was just disconnected, did i miss anything? |
| 12:50.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((<XATRIX> Doc told me apt-get install / dpkg is a bad way to install software)) No ((<XATRIX> Only HAM or Fast App manager)) NOOOOO! I definitely never suggested to use fapman ((<XATRIX> my apt-get upgrade want's to ruin my packages...) THAT is what I said you MUST NOT do: apt-get [dist]upgrade |
| 12:50.37 | Drathir | i little scared about rpm... |
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| 12:51.14 | raid_ | lol |
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| 12:51.54 | XATRIX | I have OpenMedia Player installed, can i safely remove the default one ? |
| 12:51.58 | luf | Drathir: Don't know. I lived in idea that meego is rpm based. |
| 12:52.42 | Drathir | better to package manager go pacman :p and os to archlinuxarm hrhr |
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| 12:53.04 | luf | Drathir: it'a all the same ... |
| 12:53.05 | raid_ | someone thought i might need meecolay to run GAuth, but it seems to run |
| 12:53.09 | Drathir | that little joke... |
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| 12:53.48 | Drathir | but if will be true thats will be great... |
| 12:54.18 | thedead1440 | luf: N9 is a N900 minus the keyboard with the addition of the drm equivalent aegis that can be bypassed mostly and using qt everywhere instead of gtk... (ofcourse with a slightly better processor and lots more ram)... |
| 12:54.19 | raid_ | when i click accounts it overlays the screen with a pin request, but i can't type anything into it |
| 12:54.38 | Drathir | santa meecolay? |
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| 12:55.23 | Drathir | i mean in pl mikolaj mean santa clause its similar in saymeecolay :p |
| 12:55.50 | raid_ | Drathir: No! http://wiki.maemo.org/MeeCoLay |
| 12:55.58 | XATRIX | DocScrutinizer05: ok... |
| 12:56.11 | XATRIX | I didn't touch distupgrade ever |
| 12:57.11 | Drathir | raid_: try to run from console and watch the output in console... |
| 12:57.59 | raid_ | Drathir: oh genius. i tabbed over am getting this error |
| 12:58.49 | raid_ | Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.nokia.DuiControlPanel was not provided by any .service files |
| 12:58.53 | XATRIX | I have OpenMedia Player installed, can i safely remove the default one ? |
| 13:00.52 | raid_ | XATRIX: is openmedia already bound as your default? |
| 13:03.46 | Drathir | andre__: im dont know good about that but for mi looks like app is builit without symlinks to n900 specific GUI options... |
| 13:03.50 | raid_ | i'm not getting that error when i run it in meecolay, but it still doesn't work |
| 13:04.18 | andre__ | Drathir: ? |
| 13:04.29 | raid_ | andre__: i think he meant me |
| 13:04.32 | andre__ | s/andre__/and ? |
| 13:04.34 | andre__ | ah. |
| 13:04.40 | Drathir | with* |
| 13:04.48 | Drathir | andre__: sorry tabfail |
| 13:05.38 | Drathir | raid_: i think good to compile source package inside n900 |
| 13:06.12 | raid_ | would that even have a chance of working without major tweaks? |
| 13:06.17 | raid_ | Drathir: ^ |
| 13:06.46 | raid_ | Drathir: oh it's python |
| 13:08.08 | Drathir | for me apps call nO specific functions but its a little strange, question app is provided throught ovi site? |
| 13:08.20 | Drathir | n9* |
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| 13:09.05 | raid_ | Drathir: what? |
| 13:09.34 | raid_ | Drathir: http://store.ovi.com/content/273598 |
| 13:10.58 | thedead1440 | raid_: the best bet is to report your errors on the MeeCoLay thread |
| 13:11.43 | raid_ | thedead1440: i'm not getting errors when i run it in meecolay, but i still can't figure out to get it to work |
| 13:12.04 | raid_ | thedead1440: it'd help if i knew what it was supposed to do. i'll look for a youtube video |
| 13:12.28 | Drathir | raid_: i mean that package call specific liblaries used in n9 only that the reason of errors i think... its compiled looks like its compiled directly to n9 phone, or calling options missing in n900 yes best way is ask the author of package about that it is a fastet way... |
| 13:14.16 | raid_ | Drathir: gauth author wrote it for the n9, meecolay is, apparently, a harmattan wrapper for the n900 |
| 13:14.21 | Drathir | also sometimes not all the errors showing in default console run off app, aometimes needed special debug switches... |
| 13:16.08 | XATRIX | raid_: i don't know |
| 13:16.13 | Drathir | raid_: i think try also ask author of gauth what dependencies needed to run and build apps have, or try find that info inside google... |
| 13:16.17 | XATRIX | how can i check is it bound as default |
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| 13:18.01 | raid_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.15 | raid_ | (the author of meecolay) |
| 13:18.50 | raid_ | my time would be better spent just rewriting the whole thing for n900 native |
| 13:19.11 | raid_ | ugh |
| 13:19.20 | raid_ | i'm going to try a few more things |
| 13:20.03 | raid_ | thanks for your help everyone |
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| 13:26.49 | Drathir | XATRIX: what you have a mean? |
| 13:31.47 | XATRIX | I mean how can i check if my OpenMediaPlayer is my default player ? And if so, i will remove default one media player |
| 13:36.33 | Drathir | XATRIX: openmediaplayer default isnt default as i know and you must run it by hand.... but if good remember media player can be deleted and exchanged with openmediaplayer |
| 13:37.00 | Drathir | but i dont know where i read about that... :/ |
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| 13:39.24 | XATRIX | hm.. |
| 13:44.08 | Drathir | mediaplayer and openmediaplayer have differencies inside a program and easy to find that differencies... |
| 13:45.34 | XATRIX | So, you don't recommend to remove native mediaplayer ? |
| 13:47.32 | Drathir | i think better is have a alternative if something will be wrong in update of openmediaplayer - its low possibility that i thank... |
| 13:49.07 | Drathir | openmediaplayer is fully compatibile with mediaplayer if good remember but i preffer both installed... |
| 13:50.33 | Drathir | DocScrutinizer51: you know anything about n900 video output? |
| 13:51.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | a tad, yeah |
| 13:52.51 | Drathir | i saw something interesting high res video slowly showing inside screen is not show on remote tv connected to n900 when stop a video playing all scren on tv show again... |
| 13:53.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | please add some punctuation to that, I can't parse it |
| 13:53.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe a rephrasing also helps ;-) |
| 13:54.27 | Drathir | ok i mean it is any restriction of max resolution output? |
| 13:55.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, you can't go beyond a certain hw defined limit |
| 13:55.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | TV format per default is 400 lines NTSC, 512 lines PAL (visible lines) |
| 13:55.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | or was it 480 and 615? |
| 13:56.30 | Drathir | eg on n900 i play slowly 720p, and it is slowly showing inside builit n900 screen, but isnt showing on connected tv... |
| 13:56.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | your display as on N900 screen *always* gets scaled to that TV resolution, they use different framebuffers and hw-scaling |
| 13:57.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | A TV wouldn't know what to do with 720 lines |
| 13:58.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | and a HD TV can't take HD signals via CVBS/video-composite input |
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| 13:58.44 | Drathir | looks like output isnt that is showing on the screen, but other not connected video source... |
| 13:59.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | so all that fuss about HD/highres playback is a red herring |
| 13:59.08 | Drathir | oh i good thinking... |
| 14:00.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw you can tell that AV-out and LCD are using different framebuffers, when you look at compositing. No buttons etc on TV, even while they show on N900 screen |
| 14:01.19 | Drathir | but screen on tv and sound is briliant on sony tv "9" sample builit in after flashing... |
| 14:03.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, that video been carefully resampled to exactly deliver brilliant eyecandy for potetial customers when watched on screen and on TV |
| 14:05.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | while the only advantage of 720p playback is... that you *can* play it at all. TV quality will not differ significantly (well, you may have better horizontal resolution, but vertical resolution is still what your NTSC/PAL standard defines) |
| 14:06.00 | Drathir | DocScrutinizer51: yes you right that looks much better, but not my native language is little harder to prase in that nice looking way, so sadly for me... i must to learn a lot... |
| 14:07.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | Drathir: if you want good quality arbitrary video playback, rather learn about handbrake and similar resampling tools than about HD playback |
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| 14:08.08 | Drathir | anyway i mostly try to use 360p resolution, which is quite good inside phone and also on pc playing... |
| 14:08.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | everything <= 480 is OK I guess |
| 14:08.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | since N900 is scaling it up |
| 14:08.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | 480 is optimum |
| 14:09.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | since LCD has 480 lines |
| 14:11.23 | Drathir | but sadly if i want something with good quality music from yt i must download it with hd res, because yt have difference in aac sound quality, between 480p and full hd... |
| 14:11.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | AIUI you can't playback 512 or 640 or whatever and hope for higher quality than 480, since for all I know all video is first downsampled to fit into N900 LCD framebuffer (480), and only then will get upsampled to match the standard TV formats PAL/NTSC. So instead of better quality, you get inferior quality with 640, 720, etc |
| 14:11.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd think |
| 14:12.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | Drathir: :nod:, youtube HD is a PITA |
| 14:13.04 | Drathir | all time i search optimal avidemux configuration to resencode all videos to low size and good quality on n900 and pc... |
| 14:13.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | with proper filters you *might* be able to just rip out the audio part and listen to it via gstreamer |
| 14:14.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, I have a few RL things to get done, bbl, cya |
| 14:14.18 | Drathir | yea is no problem to take of the audio with best quality via youtube-dl |
| 14:14.44 | Drathir | DocScrutinizer05: thanks a lot for help to understand |
| 14:16.35 | Drathir | listening Linkin Park - Castle of glass //great songs |
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| 15:52.55 | sardini | hi |
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| 16:00.37 | Drathir | hi |
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| 16:43.59 | freemangordon | ~flash kernel |
| 16:43.59 | infobot | ACTION starts a firmware update on kernel, then pulls the plug halfway through |
| 16:44.06 | freemangordon | omg |
| 16:44.14 | freemangordon | ~flashing |
| 16:44.15 | infobot | well, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 16:44.27 | freemangordon | ~flashing kernel |
| 16:47.49 | Drathir | ~flasher |
| 16:47.49 | infobot | [flasher] http://wiki.maemo.org/Flasher |
| 16:49.33 | Drathir | ~kernel |
| 16:49.43 | Drathir | ~pali |
| 16:49.43 | infobot | well, pali is http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/ |
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| 17:15.04 | bef0rd | hello |
| 17:17.15 | Drathir | hi |
| 17:17.59 | bef0rd | I'm trying to figure out why this crash happens (randomly) on my application, I'm not even using dbus (afaik) http://paste2.org/XKVaIXpj any help is appreciated. I'm using qt-components-10 |
| 17:26.42 | freemangordon | bef0rd: is that fremantle or harmattan? |
| 17:26.51 | bef0rd | freemantle cssu |
| 17:27.19 | bef0rd | fremantle* |
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| 17:28.15 | freemangordon | bef0rd: hmm, strange debug info, missing line numbers |
| 17:28.28 | freemangordon | can you build with full debug info? |
| 17:28.54 | freemangordon | bef0rd: or install debug symbols |
| 17:29.24 | bef0rd | freemangordon: are they available for all packages? I think I can build my app with debug symbols but the crash is on a qt lib |
| 17:29.36 | freemangordon | bef0rd: have in mind it is tricky, you need to move /usr/lib/debug to opt or mmc and symlink, otherwise you'll run out of space on rootfs |
| 17:29.56 | freemangordon | bef0rd: ofc dbg symbols are available for qt |
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| 17:32.05 | raid_ | i figured it out. i figured out to get google authenticator functionality on the n900 |
| 17:32.37 | freemangordon | raid_: cool. whatever it is :) |
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| 17:33.08 | luf | raid_: let's share how ;) |
| 17:33.08 | raid_ | google authenticator is used for two-factor authentication on many sites |
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| 17:33.52 | raid_ | luf: process follows... |
| 17:34.53 | peterbjornx | has anyone here got measurements or technical drawings of the n900 case or battery cover? |
| 17:35.18 | raid_ | luf: install meecolay -> install gauth -> modify source code to remove calls to string.translate -> scan authentication barcode -> copy url -> run 'meecolay python pygauth <URL>' -> done |
| 17:35.54 | bef0rd | ok, I'm installing libqt4-core-dbg hope its enough |
| 17:36.17 | freemangordon | bef0rd: install qtdbug dbg too |
| 17:36.17 | bef0rd | raid_: nice, where did you get gauth from? |
| 17:36.42 | raid_ | bef0rd: there's one for the n9. i downloaded it from the git repo |
| 17:37.33 | raid_ | i will document this on the forum, but should gauth be repackaged and uploaded to the repository |
| 17:37.45 | bef0rd | freemangordon: can't find qtdbug-dbg or qtdebug-dgb |
| 17:38.14 | bef0rd | raid_: I didn't know there was one for the N9, I just use the sms option for 2step auth :P but I'll check it out, thanks |
| 17:38.15 | raid_ | with proper desktop icons, and fixed code |
| 17:38.17 | freemangordon | bef0rd: oh, sorry, mybad s/bug/bus/ :) |
| 17:38.32 | freemangordon | it should be qt4dbus-dbg |
| 17:38.39 | freemangordon | or something |
| 17:38.50 | raid_ | bef0rd: for sites other than google you need a google authenticator compliant app |
| 17:39.16 | bef0rd | freemangordon: ah thanks, should have guessed, its libqt4-dbus-dbg |
| 17:39.36 | peterbjornx | anyone got anything that will help me design a replacement battery cover? |
| 17:40.08 | raid_ | peterbjornx: i could describe it to you |
| 17:40.26 | raid_ | :P |
| 17:40.39 | raid_ | peterbjornx: you don't have an n900? |
| 17:41.07 | freemangordon | bef0rd: once you have meaningful backtrace, here are the sources https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo |
| 17:41.08 | peterbjornx | i do but its running os off the sdcard atm and havent patched kernel to disable magnet sensor yet |
| 17:41.23 | peterbjornx | hoped somebody here had already got a basic design with the right sizes |
| 17:41.38 | freemangordon | nokia? |
| 17:42.00 | raid_ | peterbjornx: if they did, they'd already be selling them |
| 17:42.01 | peterbjornx | i want to make a battery cover with a "sidecar" attachment containing an USB port and some pinheaders |
| 17:42.03 | bef0rd | raid_: I can't believe it have so few reviews gauth, if it works it's a very useful app |
| 17:42.09 | freemangordon | no, srsly, I guess there should be some pdf with device dimansions |
| 17:42.25 | freemangordon | *dimensions |
| 17:42.55 | raid_ | bef0rd: people are catching on to the need for two factor verification rather slowly |
| 17:43.15 | raid_ | bef0rd: but it's already costed some companies a lot of money |
| 17:45.05 | raid_ | peterbjornx: freemangordon: there definitely should be |
| 17:45.25 | peterbjornx | yeah, but probably not with the hook spacings and other important dimensions |
| 17:45.43 | freemangordon | peterbjornx: well, better than nothing |
| 17:45.49 | peterbjornx | true |
| 17:46.34 | raid_ | peterbjornx: might as well make it |
| 17:47.13 | raid_ | does anyone else think i should repackage gauth for the n900? |
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| 17:50.07 | luf | raid_: I think so :) |
| 17:50.52 | raid_ | anyone else interested in two-factor authentication support for the n900? |
| 17:52.19 | luf | raid_: let's do it and announce i on TMO. |
| 17:52.46 | luf | As you see several people are using SMS replacement because they don't know about it. |
| 17:52.47 | raid_ | luf: tmo? |
| 17:52.52 | luf | ~tmo |
| 17:52.52 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, tmo is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen. |
| 17:53.09 | raid_ | luf: oh the forum |
| 17:53.24 | luf | raid_: ;) |
| 17:53.43 | raid_ | luf: you're going to help? |
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| 17:54.44 | luf | raid_: If you need some advise a lot of people here can you help. |
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| 17:56.17 | bef0rd | raid_: couldn't get it added automatically, added the account manually but the number it generates doesn't seems to work :P i'll check later |
| 17:57.09 | raid_ | luf: ok. i'll document what i did on the forum, but i'll wait to see how much response it gets before i start repackaging |
| 17:57.22 | raid_ | bef0rd: what do you mean? |
| 17:57.46 | raid_ | bef0rd: you added the private key manually? |
| 17:57.58 | bef0rd | raid_: yea, the account with the secret, I had to add it manually and the code doesn't work to login on gmail |
| 17:58.18 | bef0rd | it sends one to my phone through sms, maybe its expecting that one? |
| 17:58.35 | raid_ | add it by running 'meecolay python pygauth <URL>' |
| 17:58.47 | raid_ | bef0rd: get the url by scanning the qrcode |
| 17:59.18 | luf | raid_: As you wish ;) But I don't think it takes so much time to repackage the python thing. |
| 17:59.26 | bef0rd | yea, i'm doing it on the N9 though |
| 18:00.41 | raid_ | luf: i'm just multitasking as it is, and i'll have to double check the license, add myself as a maintainer while keeping the original author properly credited, test the package installation and operation |
| 18:02.09 | raid_ | luf: and i'm not sure exactly how to do all that |
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| 18:02.42 | raid_ | if just two more people are interested, i'll make it a point |
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| 18:03.41 | raid_ | otherwise, let me get a few things off my list |
| 18:04.06 | raid_ | first, before i document anything, i need to find out why it's not working for bef0rd |
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| 18:04.36 | luf | raid_: I don't think you have to do it in next two minutes ;) take your time. Just add it to your todo ;) |
| 18:04.56 | raid_ | luf: ok |
| 18:05.35 | luf | raid_: And it's your time so don't feel under pressure from my side. |
| 18:06.55 | raid_ | luf: no, your support is appreciated |
| 18:07.28 | raid_ | a lot of things are only worth doing if people are actually interested |
| 18:08.36 | luf | is afk |
| 18:10.26 | raid_ | bef0rd: you're on the n9? |
| 18:10.31 | raid_ | hmm |
| 18:10.55 | bef0rd | yea, let me try to add the url using the script |
| 18:11.00 | raid_ | bef0rd: wait |
| 18:11.33 | raid_ | bef0rd: when you added the code, didn't google require you prove you got it by entering a test verification code? |
| 18:12.25 | bef0rd | raid_: oh, you are right, I didnt do that |
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| 18:14.10 | raid_ | bef0rd: it should list your "Android" phone on the Security page |
| 18:15.30 | bef0rd | raid_: python pygauth "otpauth://url.." fails with a python error |
| 18:15.44 | raid_ | what is the error? |
| 18:15.45 | bef0rd | that could be why adding it from the url doesn't work |
| 18:16.19 | raid_ | if you're running from the n9, i wouldn't expect the source code to need modification like the n900 |
| 18:17.53 | bef0rd | maybe i'm using the url wrong.. don't think so "otpauth://totp/mail@gmail.com,secret=secretkey" |
| 18:18.13 | bef0rd | www.paste2.org/d2p1nPy8 |
| 18:18.31 | raid_ | that comma should be a ? |
| 18:18.53 | bef0rd | sorry, it's a ? indeed |
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| 18:19.12 | raid_ | that's odd you're getting the same error i got |
| 18:19.16 | raid_ | it's not your url |
| 18:19.23 | raid_ | can you install python2.6? |
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| 18:19.34 | raid_ | bef0rd: ^ |
| 18:20.07 | bef0rd | I have python 2.6.6 on it |
| 18:20.22 | bef0rd | maybe google changed something in the URL format and the app wasn't updated |
| 18:20.41 | raid_ | bef0rd: make sure that's the python you're running it with |
| 18:21.30 | raid_ | on the n9 you can just run pygauth by itself (not 'python pygauth') |
| 18:21.33 | bef0rd | yea, there are no more version installed |
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| 18:22.18 | raid_ | before we labotimize your gauth, let me find out why it's not working 2.6 |
| 18:22.43 | bef0rd | raid_: does it work with a different version of python? |
| 18:23.18 | raid_ | it was made for python 2.6, the n900 doesn't run 2.6 so it's better to labotimize |
| 18:23.36 | raid_ | why it's not running on yours is strange |
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| 18:26.55 | bef0rd | :/ heisenbug, it's not crashing anymore |
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| 18:27.09 | bef0rd | (my qt app thats it) |
| 18:28.57 | raid_ | bef0rd: it may be a bug in the gauth the author missed. i'm going to rewrite pygauth to work with full functionality on the n9 and n900, stand by |
| 18:31.03 | raid_ | i'm thinking google started sending the code in unicode, and the app hasn't been updated since then |
| 18:39.56 | bef0rd | %40 ? |
| 18:40.11 | bef0rd | urlencoded you mean? |
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| 18:49.50 | raid_ | bef0rd: no, the key itself downloaded from the url |
| 18:50.11 | raid_ | bef0rd: it's working for you? |
| 18:50.33 | bef0rd | ah |
| 18:50.54 | bef0rd | don't know, I didnt add the account successfully |
| 18:51.30 | raid_ | bef0rd: but you said the bug was gone |
| 18:51.47 | bef0rd | on my app, sorry |
| 18:51.53 | bef0rd | not gauth |
| 18:52.12 | raid_ | bef0rd: oh |
| 18:52.50 | raid_ | bef0rd: no, it's not the python version like i initially thought |
| 18:53.10 | raid_ | bef0rd: i think it's that google is send the key in unicode format now |
| 18:53.29 | raid_ | bef0rd: try this: http://pastebin.com/ujXDD8J7 |
| 18:53.55 | raid_ | overwrite pygauth with that and see what happens |
| 18:54.04 | raid_ | make a backup ofc |
| 18:54.30 | raid_ | this should fix the problem |
| 18:55.37 | bef0rd | ok let me see |
| 18:57.40 | raid_ | bef0rd: on your phone you should be able to paste the url into a browser and it will work |
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| 19:08.32 | bef0rd | raid_: several problems, it stil says code is not correct but since I modified the script I can't run it from the launcher or use it from the browser |
| 19:08.48 | bef0rd | harmattan requires it to be packaged and it detects it was modified, so it wont run |
| 19:09.12 | raid_ | i think it was copied wrong |
| 19:09.29 | raid_ | bef0rd: it detects it was modified? |
| 19:09.33 | bef0rd | I ran it using the interpreter and it works to add the account, but stil it says the authentication code is worng |
| 19:09.35 | bef0rd | wrong* |
| 19:09.44 | bef0rd | raid_: yea, digisums file I believe |
| 19:10.00 | bef0rd | same reason you can't just run binary copied file in the N9, you need to package it |
| 19:10.10 | raid_ | bef0rd: i don't have an n9 |
| 19:10.19 | bef0rd | just saying :) |
| 19:10.33 | bef0rd | i'll check later dont worry, and the fixed code probably works |
| 19:10.42 | bef0rd | just need to repackage it and check what else can be failing |
| 19:10.47 | raid_ | bef0rd: you said you could run it using the interpreter |
| 19:11.17 | bef0rd | yea, it starts if I do "python pygauth" |
| 19:11.29 | bef0rd | but the code generated in the app is not valid for google |
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| 19:11.47 | raid_ | bef0rd: then do that until the account is saved, then reload the original until you get a package |
| 19:13.08 | raid_ | bef0rd: are you sure you followed google's instructions correctly? you scan the qrcode, paste it into pygauth, enter the verification code into google before leaving the page |
| 19:13.36 | bef0rd | yep, without closing the qrcode page |
| 19:13.43 | raid_ | bef0rd: it should verify your code before it activates two-factor authentication on your phone |
| 19:13.52 | raid_ | bef0rd: but that fails |
| 19:14.07 | bef0rd | raid_: once you add your account the app starts and shows the code to verify, right? |
| 19:14.19 | raid_ | bef0rd: yes |
| 19:14.52 | bef0rd | ok I did that, still faill, is ok that the accounts appears as mail%40gmail.com instead of @gmail? |
| 19:16.34 | raid_ | bef0rd: shouldn't matter, let me check |
| 19:16.47 | freemangordon | bef0rd: did you capture a backtrace? |
| 19:17.12 | bef0rd | freemangordon: it hasn't crashed yet :/ |
| 19:17.34 | freemangordon | hmm, that's bad |
| 19:18.01 | freemangordon | bef0rd: debug aor release build (of your application)? |
| 19:18.05 | freemangordon | *or |
| 19:18.12 | bef0rd | it's in debug at the moment |
| 19:18.23 | bef0rd | also with debug symbols of qt-core and qt-dbus |
| 19:18.30 | freemangordon | bef0rd: was it in release when it crashed? |
| 19:18.35 | bef0rd | yes |
| 19:19.14 | freemangordon | bef0rd: then build it in release with adding -ggdb option to the compiler |
| 19:20.11 | raid_ | bef0rd: it's working fine for me |
| 19:20.18 | freemangordon | bef0rd: adding debug symbols won't affect optimization options |
| 19:20.33 | raid_ | bef0rd: pygauth that is |
| 19:23.28 | bef0rd | freemangordon: let me try that |
| 19:23.39 | bef0rd | raid_: ok so its something on my side |
| 19:25.37 | raid_ | bef0rd: is the time correct on your phone? |
| 19:26.28 | raid_ | if it's off by 2 minutes, it could cause the verification to fail |
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| 19:30.24 | bef0rd | freemangordon: http://paste2.org/M9XHIvB6 is this bt better? I'll be back in a bit and check the source |
| 19:30.44 | bef0rd | raid_: yea it seems to be off by sometime, I'll brb to change the time and test |
| 19:31.58 | raid_ | the verification codes are time based. they are only valid for about 30 seconds, and require your phone's clock to be in sync with google's |
| 19:32.08 | raid_ | bef0rd: ^ |
| 19:33.22 | raid_ | i'm going to document this on TMO |
| 19:37.45 | freemangordon | bef0rd: QDBusAbstractInterface::asyncCallWithArgumentList (this=0x0... :D |
| 19:38.49 | freemangordon | bef0rd: it's dereferencing null pointer, I guess you should walk through upper frames to see who calls what |
| 19:39.45 | freemangordon | bef0rd: but I bet it is FBMEDevice::updated calling some non0existing dbus interface |
| 19:40.00 | freemangordon | *non-existing |
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| 19:47.29 | Apic | Good Nite! |
| 20:01.09 | bef0rd | freemangordon: I see it, should I check libmeegoplugin.so source right? |
| 20:01.59 | freemangordon | bef0rd: no idea WTF is that, but yep, seems like this is to blame. |
| 20:02.25 | bef0rd | I think its qt-components-10, to be able to use harmattan components on maemo5 |
| 20:02.31 | freemangordon | bef0rd: see this too QDBusCallDeliveryEvent::placeMetaCall (this=<value optimized out>, object=0x0) |
| 20:02.41 | freemangordon | object=0x0 |
| 20:02.58 | freemangordon | I guess that plugin registers some callback with NULL object |
| 20:03.17 | freemangordon | as callback parameter that is. and tries to call it later |
| 20:03.42 | freemangordon | bef0rd: have in mind I didn't look at the sources, only guessing |
| 20:04.51 | freemangordon | bef0rd: do you have bme-replacement installed? |
| 20:04.55 | bef0rd | thanks, libmeegoplugin.so belongs to that package, I'll download the source |
| 20:05.01 | bef0rd | freemangordon: I don't thing so |
| 20:05.02 | bef0rd | think* |
| 20:05.33 | freemangordon | ok |
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| 20:22.02 | bef0rd | http://mondaybynoon.com/wp-content/uploads/xVyoSl.jpg <- me |
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| 21:00.54 | peterbjornx | finished my measurements and entering them into the pc, now printing a test battery cover |
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| 21:14.41 | raid_ | Google Authenticator in Fremantle - http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1334927#post1334927 |
| 21:18.47 | Drathir | ~[6~/w 22 |
| 21:20.50 | Drathir | im sorry fail |
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| 21:24.29 | luf | raid_: thanks |
| 21:24.40 | raid_ | luf: np |
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| 23:51.58 | Macer | ~cssu |
| 23:51.59 | infobot | rumour has it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
| 23:52.23 | Macer | is there a way to disable the modem altogether? |
| 23:52.29 | Macer | so it doesn't even show the no-sim part? |
| 23:54.15 | Macer | Make sure you have no too weird catalog settings in Application manager, esp it's recommended you never disable the core Nokia SSU repositories. |
| 23:54.19 | Macer | heh |
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