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| 06:40.54 | XATRIX | What takes more energy ? GSM data connection vs WiFi ? |
| 06:41.05 | XATRIX | During transmission/idling modes |
| 06:41.14 | FlameReaper-PC | GSM |
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| 06:46.33 | XATRIX | FlameReaper-PC: Why do you think so? I thought wifi does more transmissions simply to keep the link alive, it has more overhead , and it uses more transmission power cause it has much more higher operating freqency |
| 06:52.52 | FlameReaper-PC | No idea |
| 06:53.00 | FlameReaper-PC | Ir |
| 06:53.02 | FlameReaper-PC | *Or |
| 06:53.13 | XATRIX | DocScrutinizer05: anything you can add ? |
| 06:53.25 | FlameReaper-PC | should I assume that operating using a 3G data connection and a GSM data connection is a different thing? |
| 06:56.24 | XATRIX | Yeap, it's a different communication standards |
| 06:56.34 | XATRIX | GSM is actually 1G |
| 07:00.23 | XATRIX | correction GPRS/EDGE = 2G |
| 07:00.36 | XATRIX | WCDMA/HSDPA = 3G |
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| 07:14.22 | jacekowski | gsm is using a lot less power when idle |
| 07:14.30 | jacekowski | same for 3g |
| 07:14.55 | jacekowski | wifi even with power saving is using a lot of power |
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| 07:15.27 | freemangordon | jacekowski: when idle? |
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| 07:15.40 | freemangordon | hmm, I tend to disagree |
| 07:16.27 | freemangordon | my battery lasts at least 30% more when connected to wifi compared to when connected to gprs |
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| 07:22.41 | sixwheeledbeast | I'd say with power saving on 3G uses more power to tx and more power standby over wifi. |
| 07:23.43 | sixwheeledbeast | i have my device on 2G all the time to reduce power consumption |
| 07:24.23 | freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: do you have IM accounts online all the time? |
| 07:25.09 | sixwheeledbeast | no. no IM on N900 |
| 07:25.57 | freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: well, I have 3 of them online all the time and my conclusion is that wifi is the least power consuming of 3g,gprs,wifi |
| 07:26.06 | Apic | Good Morning. |
| 07:26.12 | freemangordon | hi |
| 07:26.18 | sixwheeledbeast | hi |
| 07:26.55 | sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon, that's what I said wifi uses less power ^^^ |
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| 07:32.07 | sixwheeledbeast | there was a wiki page with some instant consumption figures somewhere..mompls |
| 07:33.49 | sixwheeledbeast | http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Power_Consumption |
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| 08:03.03 | sixwheeledbeast | \o/ maemo.org login |
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| 08:15.39 | XATRIX | Guys, can you advice me, what can i install on my handset to use at as usual "shared folder" in windows ? |
| 08:15.48 | XATRIX | for example, i have no USB cable with me |
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| 08:16.14 | XATRIX | I have to share some files on the handset SD card with my friend , i have to use networking |
| 08:16.15 | sixwheeledbeast | XATRIX: dropbox? |
| 08:16.19 | XATRIX | No :) |
| 08:16.36 | XATRIX | Assume, we have no internet connection |
| 08:16.45 | XATRIX | And we are in the same room |
| 08:16.55 | XATRIX | We use wireless network |
| 08:17.13 | XATRIX | (no BT) assume his laptop doesn't have dongle |
| 08:17.24 | kerio | ssh |
| 08:17.36 | kerio | use a scp client |
| 08:18.22 | sixwheeledbeast | ssh as above. |
| 08:18.33 | XATRIX | What do i have to install on my handset, to make him able to go "My Computer" -> Network |
| 08:18.41 | XATRIX | There, show all hosts |
| 08:18.44 | XATRIX | In windows |
| 08:19.05 | XATRIX | And he will be able to connect to my phone as a usual windows PC network host |
| 08:19.08 | XATRIX | samba ? |
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| 08:19.20 | kerio | install and configure samba properly |
| 08:20.06 | XATRIX | ok , thanks |
| 08:20.22 | XATRIX | Any GUI configurator for samba for freemantle ? |
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| 08:20.38 | XATRIX | Don't want to hang for an hour with keypand :) |
| 08:21.44 | kerio | it will also not necessarily appear in My Network or whatever |
| 08:22.17 | XATRIX | yea, he's possibly can do \\192.168.1.0 |
| 08:22.24 | XATRIX | And access ths handset |
| 08:22.38 | XATRIX | But , i would like to be more flexible in visual |
| 08:22.43 | XATRIX | For a noob users |
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| 08:32.55 | sixwheeledbeast | grrr.. new ff update has messed up private browsing |
| 08:35.05 | sixwheeledbeast | if I want to always use private browsing it shouldn't need to tell me I know. |
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| 09:03.49 | sixwheeledbeast | asked the friendly people on #firefox :) |
| 09:03.52 | sixwheeledbeast | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=852295 |
| 09:03.54 | povbot | 04Bug 852295: was not found. |
| 09:04.04 | sixwheeledbeast | to be fixed in ff22 :( |
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| 10:12.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | jacekowski: XATRIX: just that there *is* *no* idle mode in data ever, on maemo |
| 10:14.13 | XATRIX | What do you mean ? |
| 10:14.26 | XATRIX | What if it is in standby mode , screen is off |
| 10:14.39 | XATRIX | comms doesn't rx/tx |
| 10:23.03 | sixwheeledbeast | XATRIX: quick test to prove the point. |
| 10:23.20 | sixwheeledbeast | switch data on put adj a speaker |
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| 10:51.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | [GENERAL NOTICE] login on www.maemo.org seems fixed. Please test, report anything that obviously doesn't work as expected to me or warfare |
| 10:55.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: 3G seems to not create those RATATATA sounds in speakers |
| 10:56.04 | sixwheeledbeast | DocScrutinizer05: how long should it take for promotion of packages devel>testing |
| 10:56.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | nfc |
| 10:56.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ask jacekowski |
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| 10:56.59 | sixwheeledbeast | I have Dual mode on and noises are fairly frequent. |
| 10:57.22 | Apic | scratchbox.org is unresponsive, is there some Mirror? |
| 10:57.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ask thedead1440 |
| 10:57.54 | sixwheeledbeast | 2g doesn't seem to make noises. |
| 10:58.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | he's maintainer of scratchbox.maemo.org |
| 10:58.38 | sixwheeledbeast | jacekowski: ^^^ how long should it take for promotion of packages devel > testing |
| 10:58.52 | sixwheeledbeast | IIRC it was instant |
| 11:04.17 | sixwheeledbeast | maybe is our villages local mast, it's known to cause chaos with if-fones on 3G |
| 11:04.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | Apic: scratchbox.org *should* be available under "213.128.137.24 scratchbox" (which you could add to your /etc/hosts until we sorted issue with DNS for that domain) |
| 11:04.37 | Apic | Thanks! |
| 11:04.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | Apic: I just tested it and it seems that server isn't properly configured yet |
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| 11:05.19 | Apic | Ack |
| 11:05.29 | Apic | »The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet.« |
| 11:07.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: ^^^ !! |
| 11:09.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: ping |
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| 11:12.34 | raid__ | does the GAuth app still work? |
| 11:13.24 | raid__ | I'm hesitant to try it if it locks me out of my account |
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| 12:20.06 | sixwheeledbeast | well re: m.o I don't think package promotion is working. Also package rating is broken, voting will not work. |
| 12:26.55 | teotwaki | http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/552955_10151623056038833_1167644648_n.jpg |
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| 12:27.07 | peb_ | is gone. Gone since Fri Apr 5 09:47:00 2013 |
| 12:35.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | peb_: disable auto-away message!! |
| 12:35.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | peb_: it's a ban'able behaviour |
| 12:35.51 | sixwheeledbeast | :o |
| 12:37.17 | peb_ | ups ... |
| 12:37.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | if we want to know about anybody's away-status, we can look it up in our IRC client's userlist, or simply send a CTCP VERSION: |
| 12:37.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-04-05 14:34:56] [CTCP] Sending CTCP-VERSION request to peb_. |
| 12:37.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-04-05 14:34:56] [Away] peb_ is away: Gone since Fri Apr 5 09:47:00 2013 |
| 12:38.00 | peb_ | sorry DocScrutinizer -- new install of epic4, on the old computer I had it in the .config |
| 12:38.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | np |
| 12:38.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
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| 12:48.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | anybody with a clue about apache config around willing to help me out? |
| 12:49.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | please just query me |
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| 13:09.49 | pepper | I only toyed around with a little 2 years ago. So no not really. |
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| 13:23.03 | XATRIX | Any idea what do i have to install to make my handset to become visible in Windows Network Manager ? |
| 13:23.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | nm, turns out scratchbox is really nonstandard (for all I consider standard in a webserver, so basically a bogus notion) |
| 13:23.18 | XATRIX | I mean, i've setup a tinysmb - and it works pretty well |
| 13:23.26 | XATRIX | But i don't see it in list of hosts |
| 13:23.36 | XATRIX | Do i also have to run winbind ? |
| 13:25.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | first of all you need to make your N900 visible on your win machine, on a network level - I.E. so you can ping it |
| 13:26.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | N900 is no WLAN-AP, so either you use a dedicated AP and ping the N900 with the IP-addr it received from AP's DHCP server |
| 13:26.42 | pepper | Doc, how did you setup scratchbox and where did you get the files from? Im on xubuntu 12.10 and its seems to fail at each installation attempt. |
| 13:26.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | or you establish an adhoc peer-to-peer WLAN network between N900 and your PC |
| 13:27.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | pepper: I dunno, it's ages ago |
| 13:27.31 | deepy | can the N900 host a WLAN? the non-adhoc one |
| 13:27.39 | XATRIX | yes |
| 13:27.47 | XATRIX | inf |
| 13:28.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | deepy: not afaik |
| 13:28.27 | pepper | aaah well thats a shame. most guides presume working repository's. and since nokia tablets is down, scratchbox is down and some maemo repos are down pretty much none of the guides work. and the manual files appear outdated or version mismatched. |
| 13:28.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | pepper: maemo repos are all up and running |
| 13:29.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | for tablets-dev see: |
| 13:29.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~skeiron |
| 13:29.11 | infobot | skeiron is probably the semi-official backup and emergency standin for all internet borne maemo resources: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 |
| 13:29.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | scratchbox is what I'm just working on |
| 13:29.43 | pepper | yes, I have those links, but I cannot get it to work, throwing strange errors. |
| 13:30.12 | pepper | Iḿ following the http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation#On_x86_and_x86_64_Debian-based_systems |
| 13:30.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | what is throwing strange errors? |
| 13:30.51 | freemangordon | pepper: wget SB debs and install by hand |
| 13:31.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, that's probably depending on www.scratchbox.org which I told you I'm basically working on right ATM |
| 13:31.04 | pepper | I used these first time around: http://thecust.net/nelisquare/hathor-sdk/ |
| 13:31.23 | freemangordon | did it a few days ago on ubuntu12.04 64bit |
| 13:31.28 | pepper | but those didnt accept the nokia binaries I tried, not did it start up the nokia/N900 parts. |
| 13:31.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi freemangordon |
| 13:31.57 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: hi |
| 13:32.28 | pepper | now I'm trying the link you gave, scratchbox installs with dpkg - ./scratchbox-*. but when I try to add the user via the sbin/add_user casper yes the script fails. I think the SB install didnt setup path variables. |
| 13:32.41 | pepper | when I echo SBOX_PATH there is nothing there. |
| 13:33.11 | pepper | doc, your the maintainer for the sb website? |
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| 13:55.14 | XATRIX | DocScrutinizer05: what does mean OptFS ? |
| 13:55.18 | XATRIX | SDcard ? |
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| 13:58.48 | pepper | wasnt the sd card emmc2? |
| 14:01.55 | pepper | what is the correct rootstrap to use for scratchbox? |
| 14:09.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | pepper: no, I'm not maintainer of scratchbox website, but I try to fix some stuff on that maemo VM. I think when your sb installation doesn't behave like expected, that's probably not a fault of the install or any web server not providing any part |
| 14:09.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | XATRIX: I have no idea what's OptFS |
| 14:10.12 | pepper | you are probably correct. which would be the correct packages to use? |
| 14:11.16 | XATRIX | DocScrutinizer05: what can you say about this ? http://gsmserver.com/shop/spares/ic_chips/power_amplifiers/power_amplifier_4376047_gazoo_for_nokia_6700.php |
| 14:11.25 | XATRIX | I want to solder it in :) |
| 14:11.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | uh? |
| 14:12.24 | XATRIX | it's power amplifier |
| 14:12.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | gazoo is the companion chip for BB5 modem chip |
| 14:12.59 | XATRIX | Yeap, it amplifies the signal up antenna |
| 14:13.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | afk, bbl |
| 14:13.47 | XATRIX | gonna upgrade his handset |
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| 15:42.00 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: pong |
| 15:42.14 | merlin1991 | err sorry that was supposed to be DocScrutinizer05 pong |
| 15:49.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | pepper: I dunno, it's ages ago |
| 15:49.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops, sorry |
| 15:50.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: I am about to try and get sb.m.o to a useful state. Thought you could help a bit with apache related stuff |
| 15:51.06 | merlin1991 | I'm better on the lighttpd side but I can at least read apache config files |
| 15:51.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | but it seems to turn out that we're missing significant parts of original data |
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| 16:01.34 | Macer | http://imgur.com/gallery/Qylp3Pu |
| 16:01.35 | Macer | lol |
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| 16:07.52 | sixwheeledbeast | Macer: not much use if you don't have windows os |
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| 16:11.43 | Macer | sixwheeledbeast: yeah but still :) tickled me to say the least |
| 16:12.10 | sixwheeledbeast | argeed :) |
| 16:12.25 | sixwheeledbeast | a/argeed/agreed/ |
| 16:16.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | [general notice] repo gone down with a VIF error. We're updating kernels and need to take down blade-a with the VMs: repository, scratchbox, monitor |
| 16:16.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry for the inconvenience |
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| 16:31.10 | MohammadAG | what exactly is #define MCE_RADIO_STATE_NFC(1 << 4) |
| 16:31.31 | MohammadAG | or in other words, how do I use that in a shell |
| 16:34.18 | NIN101 | 1 << 4 = 16 |
| 16:36.26 | RST38h | Moo MohammadAG |
| 16:36.46 | RST38h | it is a bit that shows the state of the NFC radio |
| 16:36.59 | RST38h | there is probably more MCE_RADIO_STATE_* bits there, too |
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| 16:41.22 | MohammadAG | Moo RST38h :) |
| 16:41.33 | MohammadAG | RST38h, indeed, but I don't get the << thing |
| 16:41.56 | MohammadAG | NIN101, so dbus-send --print-reply --system --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.req_radio_states_change uint32:16 uint32:1 should work? |
| 16:42.14 | RST38h | << thing is a shift |
| 16:42.20 | RST38h | 1<<4 means 16 |
| 16:42.45 | RST38h | I do not think so |
| 16:42.47 | MohammadAG | what's a shift? to the power of two? |
| 16:42.50 | RST38h | yeah |
| 16:42.53 | RST38h | I though you knew:) |
| 16:43.17 | RST38h | Why did you put uint32:1 into that line? |
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| 16:43.39 | RST38h | what you need is get the current value of that variable, OR it with 16, and write it back |
| 16:45.36 | MohammadAG | 23 is on, 7 is off |
| 16:45.42 | MohammadAG | how, I have no idea |
| 16:45.57 | RST38h | ? |
| 16:46.05 | MohammadAG | signal sender=:1.4 -> dest=(null destination) serial=1938 path=/com/nokia/mce/signal; interface=com.nokia.mce.signal; member=radio_states_ind |
| 16:46.06 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:46.17 | MohammadAG | I'm guessing that's the same? |
| 16:46.19 | RST38h | 23 = 10111 |
| 16:46.24 | RST38h | 7 = 00111 |
| 16:46.43 | RST38h | So, yeah, 7|16 => 23 |
| 16:46.52 | RST38h | you are correct |
| 16:47.07 | RST38h | consider the current state of that variable = 7 |
| 16:47.09 | MohammadAG | heh, snooping around with dbus-monitor seems easier :P |
| 16:47.13 | RST38h | 7 = 00111 |
| 16:47.24 | MohammadAG | oh yeah, I remember this stuff |
| 16:47.38 | RST38h | if you want to add 16 to that value that will be 00111 | 10000 => 10111 |
| 16:47.43 | RST38h | which is 23 |
| 16:47.56 | MohammadAG | 23|7 is 10111 right? |
| 16:47.56 | RST38h | 16|7 |
| 16:48.01 | RST38h | 10111 = 23 decimal |
| 16:48.10 | MohammadAG | and 23 AND 7 is 00111 |
| 16:48.20 | RST38h | of course |
| 16:48.41 | MohammadAG | I remember it in some old Java book I picked up three years ago :P |
| 16:49.42 | MohammadAG | now I just need to find a way to go around aegis in a shell |
| 16:50.14 | RST38h | Man, you need to freshen up your boolean logic skills :) |
| 16:51.17 | MohammadAG | forgive me, I've done some Android development |
| 16:51.26 | RST38h | Oh, that figures =) |
| 16:51.28 | MohammadAG | that ruined me for logic :P |
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| 16:51.43 | RST38h | is doing Android development right now. Freaking Symbian, reimplemented in Java. |
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| 16:53.28 | MohammadAG | RST38h, I've never touched Symbian development |
| 16:53.47 | MohammadAG | but I do find the environment (community and such) very very similar |
| 16:53.58 | MohammadAG | I must admit I miss some parts of iOS |
| 16:54.21 | RST38h | iOS is worse though |
| 16:54.33 | MohammadAG | how come? I found slightly better |
| 16:55.01 | RST38h | too many limitations, moonspeak instead of a widely know programming language |
| 16:55.15 | RST38h | lots of cultists, many limitations in the app store |
| 16:55.27 | MohammadAG | well, that's why I left iOS |
| 16:55.30 | RST38h | too much emphasis on look at the cost of functionality |
| 16:55.45 | MohammadAG | a jailbreak started getting harder and harder |
| 16:55.50 | RST38h | Android is ugly like a horned toad, but at least it does not force you to swallow it |
| 16:56.04 | MohammadAG | which meant I had to stick with iOS 5 for a while |
| 16:56.09 | MohammadAG | ICS+ isn't that bad |
| 16:56.16 | MohammadAG | I actually like the looks of it |
| 16:56.22 | MohammadAG | hate the performance though |
| 16:56.30 | RST38h | oh you can gonative |
| 16:56.47 | RST38h | besides, modern android phones have got LOTS of hw performance |
| 16:58.06 | MohammadAG | I have a 1.5GHz quad core phone with 2GBs of RAM |
| 16:58.23 | RST38h | decent |
| 16:58.23 | MohammadAG | when I complain about performance I'm talking about software :P |
| 16:58.34 | RST38h | well, it is java. it has to garbage-collect. |
| 16:58.47 | MohammadAG | there are some things my 1.0GHz single core 512MBs of RAM iPhone 4 could do faster |
| 16:58.49 | RST38h | besides, all apps are running inside the same JVM (yeah, I know) |
| 16:59.19 | MohammadAG | the Galaxy SIII was rubbish OOTB |
| 16:59.21 | RST38h | One suggestion I can give is run a task manager and uninstall all apps that try running services in background |
| 16:59.23 | MohammadAG | always ran out of RAM |
| 16:59.29 | RST38h | I have 1GB RAM |
| 16:59.36 | RST38h | it is bearable |
| 16:59.52 | MohammadAG | then you run something like CyanogenMod or AOSP |
| 17:00.06 | RST38h | Second suggestion - get an adware scanner, remove all apps that are actively trying to swindle you |
| 17:00.36 | RST38h | Adware scanner app is called Lookout Ad Network Detector |
| 17:01.00 | RST38h | Mohammad: running stock ICS from Samsung for AT&T phones |
| 17:01.21 | MohammadAG | Galaxy S2? |
| 17:01.41 | RST38h | Note |
| 17:01.50 | MohammadAG | try an S3 |
| 17:02.01 | RST38h | Nah. Love my Note. |
| 17:02.04 | MohammadAG | The TouchWiz framework wasn't as bloated on those |
| 17:02.09 | MohammadAG | (Note, S2, etc) |
| 17:02.23 | RST38h | It is pretty bloated but I killed off all the useless parts. |
| 17:02.28 | MohammadAG | The S3 and Note 2 TW framework is much better feature wise, but sucks a lot of performance |
| 17:02.38 | MohammadAG | you can't kill a framework :P |
| 17:02.39 | RST38h | Samsung's email and file manager are quite good though, usable |
| 17:03.09 | MohammadAG | an AOSP device can have about 200MBs of RAM used at startup |
| 17:03.19 | MohammadAG | S3 -> 570/879 or something |
| 17:03.25 | MohammadAG | so you get about 300MBs of RAM |
| 17:03.43 | RST38h | I know |
| 17:03.55 | RST38h | But you can free up some ram |
| 17:04.04 | RST38h | Try killing off their Social Hub |
| 17:04.14 | RST38h | And a few other packages |
| 17:04.28 | MohammadAG | I killed all the hubs on my S3 |
| 17:04.36 | RST38h | Samsung's own app store is better gone than not |
| 17:04.36 | MohammadAG | talkback, OTA, too |
| 17:04.40 | RST38h | Yeah |
| 17:04.57 | RST38h | Kill Kies, useless piece of shit |
| 17:05.00 | MohammadAG | though at some point, the S3 decides to sink with those ships |
| 17:05.08 | MohammadAG | killed itself |
| 17:05.14 | RST38h | Dunno, Note works fine |
| 17:05.25 | MohammadAG | nah, it was a hardware problem |
| 17:05.29 | RST38h | One thing I have found NOT to uninstall was Yellow Pages app |
| 17:05.45 | RST38h | It integrates with the address book where Samsung HARDWIRED an entry for that app |
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| 17:05.55 | MohammadAG | I guy at a shop was convinced I was stupid and offered to swap it with a Note 2 for about 100 bucks |
| 17:05.56 | RST38h | So if you delete the app and click on that entry, address book crashes |
| 17:06.13 | RST38h | Oh, go with Note 2, it is good :) |
| 17:06.18 | MohammadAG | I did |
| 17:06.25 | MohammadAG | this was in January or something |
| 17:06.39 | MohammadAG | the S3 needed the 2GBs of RAM |
| 17:06.42 | RST38h | I was offered a swap for $600, told them to go where sun does not shine |
| 17:06.57 | MohammadAG | that's why I advise people to get a GT-i9305 if they want an S3 |
| 17:07.11 | MohammadAG | that's the European LTE model, same CPU, LTE, and 2GBs of RAM |
| 17:07.30 | MohammadAG | unlike the crippled American LTE one, dual core CPU and a shitty DAC |
| 17:07.41 | RST38h | Well I do not have a choice here =( |
| 17:07.56 | RST38h | AT&T likes holding its customers by the balls |
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| 17:43.56 | JZA | hi everyone |
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| 17:51.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | MCC meeting in 10 minutes |
| 17:51.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | this will/shall be one of the more important ones |
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| 17:54.26 | Drathir | hi |
| 17:58.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | MCC meeting in 1 minutes |
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| 17:59.56 | JZA | wow intresting. |
| 18:00.04 | JZA | I'll hang around for the meeting. |
| 18:00.11 | JZA | if thats ok |
| 18:00.46 | MentalistTraceur | Yeah, completely okay. |
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| 18:01.04 | MentalistTraceur | Meetings are public. (Assuming we're talking about council meeting?) |
| 18:01.38 | Drathir | btw ad-hoc connection on n900 with wep encryption dont working... |
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| 18:10.27 | raid__ | that's awesome how you all still use your n900's too |
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| 18:12.37 | kerio | well, there's not a lot of alternative, is there |
| 18:12.50 | raid__ | no |
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| 18:13.30 | raid__ | it's sad |
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| 18:13.35 | JZA | I do |
| 18:14.19 | JZA | my n900 is very slow, and not sure why |
| 18:14.52 | JZA | it used to be fast when I freshly install, but this slow downs incrementally, is like a windows pc |
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| 18:15.06 | raid__ | JZA: well what did you do to it? |
| 18:15.20 | raid__ | JZA: when did it get slow? |
| 18:15.23 | JZA | nothing, thats the point. |
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| 18:15.44 | sixwheeledbeast | JZA: Swap fragmention? unstable packages? |
| 18:15.45 | JZA | its just get incrementally slow from the last install, is like a memory leak. |
| 18:15.48 | JZA | nope |
| 18:16.27 | sixwheeledbeast | top output showing high cpu process? |
| 18:17.20 | raid__ | JZA: check installed packages, especially daemons |
| 18:18.37 | Drathir | JZA: htop iotop |
| 18:19.01 | sixwheeledbeast | yep daemons and widgetz killers |
| 18:19.09 | sixwheeledbeast | powertop :) |
| 18:19.29 | JZA | also the indexing of music is becoming very sluggish get a lot of "no songs found" |
| 18:19.34 | Drathir | sixwheeledbeast: too |
| 18:20.07 | Drathir | fsck from backup menu |
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| 18:23.17 | raid__ | never smoke spice |
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| 18:34.10 | LokiChaos | Is it possible to change the 16 ANSI terminal colours in osso-xterm (which I know is really vte based not true xterm)? (if this is not the best place for this inquiry, feel free to direct me to that place) |
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| 18:49.57 | Sysaxed | is there any way to make a bluetooth call from one n900 to another? |
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| 18:59.21 | Sysaxed | hhmmmm? |
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| 19:06.46 | Sysaxed | sounds like a no... then another question - is it going to be possible to install ubuntu touch on n900? :) |
| 19:09.08 | sixwheeledbeast | Sysaxed: #maemo-meeting is in progress so probably wrong time to ask |
| 19:09.26 | Sysaxed | sixwheeledbeast: :) thanks for letting me know |
| 19:10.02 | sixwheeledbeast | Sysaxed: can't have you typing to yourself can we :) |
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| 19:22.22 | Drathir | sixwheeledbeast: private channel only? |
| 19:22.36 | MentalistTraceur | In #maemo-meeting |
| 19:22.40 | sixwheeledbeast | eh? |
| 19:22.50 | Drathir | MentalistTraceur: yes |
| 19:22.51 | MentalistTraceur | If you mean council meeting. |
| 19:22.56 | MentalistTraceur | No, not private. |
| 19:23.03 | MentalistTraceur | It's open to everyone. |
| 19:23.07 | Drathir | ok thanks |
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| 19:30.26 | JZA | oh I didnt know it was on a different channel |
| 19:31.47 | Drathir | btw bt calls i think should be useless... |
| 19:32.43 | Drathir | to short distance, other things is bt chat thats can be usefull... |
| 19:37.17 | Sysaxed | Drathir: how long is that "short distance" ? |
| 19:38.38 | sixwheeledbeast | I suggest you read backscroll if you haven't already http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclog/ |
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| 19:38.58 | Drathir | Sysaxed: i think 10 m but mutt check spec. |
| 19:39.21 | Drathir | must* |
| 19:42.33 | Sysaxed | Drathir: well, even 10 meters is enough for me. The point is that when you're cycling with somebody you often can't hear anything if another person is in front... |
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| 19:45.33 | Drathir | in spec is bluetooth 2.1 not 3.0 |
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| 19:49.11 | Drathir | transfer rate of data is 2-3mb is enough i think but dont know about delay... |
| 19:49.56 | Drathir | i think better will be hot spot and somthing like teamspeak on phone... |
| 19:50.23 | Drathir | or asterisk... |
| 19:50.28 | Sysaxed | asterisk? |
| 19:50.48 | Drathir | setup local voip |
| 19:50.53 | Sysaxed | oh.. |
| 19:51.08 | Sysaxed | are bluetooth headphones supported in n900? |
| 19:51.29 | Sysaxed | this way I can redirect mic to speakers and then configure two headphones to work :))) |
| 19:51.36 | sixwheeledbeast | why not PMR's? |
| 19:51.43 | Drathir | but all this can be a power drain highly |
| 19:51.56 | Sysaxed | PMR? |
| 19:52.24 | Sysaxed | I don't think that bluetooth is going to drain battery faster than wifi |
| 19:52.40 | sixwheeledbeast | ~wiki Professional mobile radio |
| 19:53.18 | Drathir | drain a lot too... in bt 3.0 they going to pover save mode |
| 19:53.29 | Sysaxed | sixwheeledbeast: is it easy to find some of these cheap? |
| 19:54.13 | Drathir | 10m use power of transmition 2.5mW |
| 19:54.17 | Sysaxed | and especially a model where you can plug headphones with a mic... |
| 19:54.22 | sixwheeledbeast | Sysaxed: in UK they are stupidly cheap and designed for ~5km no license required |
| 19:54.35 | Sysaxed | sixwheeledbeast: wow :O |
| 19:54.44 | sixwheeledbeast | some even have VOX |
| 19:55.06 | Drathir | or in proffesional use TETRA |
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| 19:56.11 | Sysaxed | they're too big.. remember I want to use it for cycling :) |
| 19:56.46 | Drathir | the best will be PTT |
| 19:57.32 | Drathir | or skype/jabber if iternet conn free |
| 19:57.47 | sixwheeledbeast | Sysaxed: I had these, now discontinued http://www.amazon.co.uk/Binatone-MR600-2-Way-Radio-Twin/dp/B0002GD4VO |
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| 19:58.13 | Sysaxed | Drathir: no internet connection |
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| 22:28.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | community, please notice draft http://privatepaste.com/d5fafa9669 which we gonna announce officially tomorrow. feedback solicited over at #maemo-meeting |
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| 23:22.37 | stardiviner | Is there a way to sync N900 contacts with Google contacts ? |
| 23:23.26 | MentalistTraceur | stardiviner: As far as I know no. Admittedly I could be wrong, as I've never wanted to do so. |
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