| 00:01.54 | eccerr0r | is there a way to change the behavior of keyboard longpress to get the blue character? (like, instead of dumping the new character and then deleting the original, delete the original first then dump new character?) |
| 00:03.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | huh? |
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| 00:03.44 | eccerr0r | when you longpress it gives the white character, then the blue character, then escape bracket escape bracket C or something like that |
| 00:04.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't like that stuff, have changed it to sane autorepeat |
| 00:04.26 | eccerr0r | heh |
| 00:04.32 | eccerr0r | that would be useful too |
| 00:04.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 00:04.41 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 00:05.24 | eccerr0r | i find i have to type symbols a lot, and if it would just do backspace and then the blue character, it would work for typing in passwords. |
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| 00:16.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | particularly passwords should get typed in a unambiguous manner |
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| 00:16.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you need a symbol, press the bluekey qualifier |
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| 00:16.58 | robbiethe1st | Well, DocS, any N900-killers out there yet? |
| 00:17.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | killers? |
| 00:17.13 | RiD | robbiethe1st a second N900 |
| 00:17.32 | robbiethe1st | You know, replacements, anything that actually comes close to the usability of a N900 |
| 00:17.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah |
| 00:17.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | nothing I heard of |
| 00:18.12 | RiD | its hard nowadays to find flagship phones with hw keyboards |
| 00:18.24 | RiD | let alone everything else :d |
| 00:18.25 | robbiethe1st | I know. It sucks. |
| 00:18.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 00:18.55 | RiD | on one side, i dont find virtual keyboard THAT bad, but i can't type without looking at it...without making mistakes |
| 00:19.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, exactly the point |
| 00:19.19 | robbiethe1st | What's sad is that even Nokia's Swipe interface is more intuitive than Android, and that's a couple steps behind my N900 :\ |
| 00:19.21 | eccerr0r | typing in numbers into something that doesn't use readline also would be nice. and even some GUI applications appears to break with longpress... I just find it annoying to type + where you have to move both hands to the left to type them. |
| 00:19.43 | RiD | and then the keyboard eats half of the screen |
| 00:19.55 | RiD | terrible for long texts |
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| 00:20.33 | robbiethe1st | Let alone posting page-long comments on Slashdot |
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| 00:27.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | eccerr0r: you're aware that you can press+release blue qualifier key? It's sticky for next keypress |
| 00:27.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | you don't need to press+hold bluekey while typing a symbol |
| 00:28.14 | RiD | double pressing it blocks it too |
| 00:28.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 00:28.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | just like shift |
| 00:28.29 | RiD | but then you have to click again to deactivate, and thats many additional clicks |
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| 00:29.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | with awesome keymap it comes in handy for typing IP addr |
| 00:29.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | with default keymap it sucks |
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| 00:29.31 | RiD | let alone regional keymaps. you dont even have all the arrows |
| 00:29.35 | robbiethe1st | Note: This only sometimes works in Web input fields. I find that on Slashdot, when the input box is created by JS, I can type into it, but lock-presses of shift/alt doesn't work. Tapping on the input field "selects" it and then the alt keys work as expected. |
| 00:29.42 | robbiethe1st | Really confused me the first few times |
| 00:30.18 | RiD | robbiethe1st i hate some of these sites where you type and it has a 6 second delay |
| 00:30.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly qt shit |
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| 00:57.25 | eccerr0r | true, the sticky key works, I just wish there was visual feedback it was pressed, sometimes I hit it by mistake and the next button I press it produces the wrong character... |
| 00:58.02 | RiD | eccerr0r great idea. using the led indicator could be nice |
| 00:59.07 | eccerr0r | can that be done for both blue and shift? |
| 00:59.30 | RiD | if its possible for one of them, why not the other one? |
| 01:00.03 | eccerr0r | hmm.. oh the annunciator LED, thought you mean the keyboard backlight.. |
| 01:00.10 | RiD | oh |
| 01:00.17 | eccerr0r | yeah the annunciator LED would be fine |
| 01:00.19 | RiD | keyboard backlight has 6 leds |
| 01:00.29 | RiD | ...i think |
| 01:01.01 | eccerr0r | the keyboard backlight is useless in bright light anyway :D |
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| 01:01.16 | RiD | haha indeed |
| 01:01.23 | RiD | and it makes my keyboard damn ugly by the night |
| 01:01.30 | RiD | (it's horribly worn off) |
| 01:01.36 | RiD | annunciator led (w/e it is called) would be nice: yellow for shift and blue for blue key |
| 01:01.36 | eccerr0r | ah. |
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| 01:25.50 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: note that the stickiness of fn is very toolkit-dependent |
| 01:26.06 | kerio | it doesn't quite work in qt (which also doesn't like custom layouts), and it doesn't work at all, for instance, in fennec |
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| 01:44.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((<RiD> eccerr0r great idea. using the led indicator could be nice)) well, I suggested exactly that over a year ago. alas it's not exactly simple to implement |
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| 10:38.04 | MohammadAG | Anyone have any experience with 3rd party laptop chargers? |
| 10:38.32 | MohammadAG | Not sure if I should go for the Müller or GP one http://en.ksp.co.il/?select=.268..1070..681.&list=1&sort=2&glist=0&uin=0&txt_search=&buy=&minprice=0&maxprice=0 |
| 10:38.55 | MohammadAG | (90W ones) |
| 10:45.27 | SpeedEvil | I just had q generic one die of 'old age' after 12 months or so |
| 10:45.34 | SpeedEvil | not impressed |
| 10:46.44 | SpeedEvil | to be fair, the cpuiple of laptop chargers - third party - I've diasasembled - are not as unsafe as cheap usb chargers |
| 10:47.23 | SpeedEvil | that is saying about as ,much as 'may contain traces of dog' in a beefburger though |
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| 11:16.02 | kerio | my left earbud broke :( |
| 11:16.08 | kerio | i have to buy new headphones |
| 11:18.50 | MohammadAG | SpeedEvil: so you'd suggest I get an OEM one? |
| 11:19.33 | MohammadAG | Need a battery too, mine doesn't hold charge and my POST says I have to replace iy |
| 11:19.50 | MohammadAG | Thinking of a 12 cell extended battery if I can find it in Israel |
| 11:20.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~moo |
| 11:20.51 | infobot | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
| 11:21.23 | SpeedEvil | for older laptops, a small percentage chance of issues with a power supply doesn't matter |
| 11:21.39 | SpeedEvil | for a new £1800 one, it does |
| 11:21.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | MohammadAG: you can't probably change # of cells of your laptop battery |
| 11:22.03 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer05: HP has a standard and extended battery |
| 11:22.09 | MohammadAG | 6 vs 12 cell |
| 11:22.09 | SpeedEvil | there tend to be different sized batteries ... |
| 11:23.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | 12 = 2* 6 I suppose |
| 11:23.15 | MohammadAG | I tried using a netbook adapter that has the same plug but a lower current and W rating, laptop refused it |
| 11:23.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~6*3.7 |
| 11:23.24 | infobot | 22.2 |
| 11:23.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds familiar, eh? |
| 11:23.47 | kerio | ? |
| 11:23.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~12*3.7 |
| 11:23.51 | infobot | 44.4 |
| 11:23.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | not so much |
| 11:29.27 | MohammadAG | Don't get your point tbh :p |
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| 11:33.10 | MohammadAG | Well the OEM charger is out of stock and I kind of need to power on my laptop |
| 11:33.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | nm, you'll not find "wrong" number of cells anyway |
| 11:35.01 | ShadowJK | my 6 cell laptop battery is 7.2V, 3 in parallell in series with 3 in parallell |
| 11:36.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | wow, weird |
| 11:39.13 | MohammadAG | Hmm, its $160, makes me reconsider |
| 11:41.35 | ShadowJK | A battery I disassembled from a HP laptop was 2P * 3 for 11.1V |
| 11:42.13 | ShadowJK | One pair was totally dead and had ejected its guts, second pair was dubious, and third pair was worn, but had acceptable voltage |
| 11:42.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | glares at that eeePC |
| 11:43.40 | SpeedEvil | series /parallel is usual in laptops |
| 11:43.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | it been ~6 months old, when I left it in suspend-to-RAM for a week, to find battery *dead* after that |
| 11:46.40 | kerio | :s |
| 11:46.52 | kerio | smartbatts ftw |
| 11:47.08 | kerio | but, you know, sometimes shit just fails |
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| 12:04.57 | ShadowJK | my samsung netbook has about 15% remaining after STR for a week |
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| 15:16.48 | Uno-mas | hello |
| 15:19.22 | Uno-mas | ye |
| 15:19.28 | Uno-mas | bye |
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| 15:20.09 | peterbjornx | is it possible to prevent the n900 from almost freezing when doing large writes to eMMC |
| 15:20.45 | peterbjornx | after the first 500 to 2000mb it goes to 99% IO time in top and even simple shell commands take a while to execute |
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| 15:27.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack |
| 15:27.55 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: :) |
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| 15:36.28 | sixwheeledbeast | ~ping |
| 15:36.28 | infobot | ~pong |
| 15:36.51 | sixwheeledbeast | bloody phone line |
| 15:42.25 | sixwheeledbeast | ~ping |
| 15:42.25 | infobot | ~pong |
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| 15:50.03 | kerio | ~ping |
| 15:50.03 | infobot | ~pong |
| 15:50.12 | kerio | sixwheeledbeast: ha, infobot likes me more than you |
| 15:50.19 | kerio | ~botsnack |
| 15:50.19 | infobot | kerio: aw, gee |
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| 15:51.45 | sixwheeledbeast | kerio: doubt it's infobot, how many ping's can you see? I count 15 |
| 15:51.52 | kerio | 4 |
| 15:51.56 | kerio | no, 5 |
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| 15:52.41 | sixwheeledbeast | phone line issues when windy, drops the dsl. |
| 15:53.02 | peterbjornx | loose contact somewhere lol |
| 15:53.38 | peterbjornx | does your country still use those above-ground phone lines? |
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| 15:56.45 | peterbjornx | anyone got a solution for the slowing down of emmc writes |
| 15:58.18 | kerio | mmh |
| 15:58.56 | sixwheeledbeast | loose contact plus miles away from the exchange |
| 15:59.30 | kerio | peterbjornx: ShadowJK has some tweaks |
| 15:59.54 | kerio | high queue/nr_requests and 0 queue/iosched/slice_idle |
| 16:00.07 | kerio | high as in 1024 or more |
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| 16:03.48 | peterbjornx | what does that mean |
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| 16:04.13 | peterbjornx | i thought the issue was it queueing too much before blocking the write and writing |
| 16:04.50 | peterbjornx | 36473+0 records in 36472+0 records out 149389312 bytes (142.5MB) copied, 15.103608 seconds, 9.4MB/s 195422+0 records in 195421+0 records out 800444416 bytes (763.4MB) copied, 515.061280 seconds, 1.5MB/s |
| 16:04.58 | peterbjornx | is just ridiculous |
| 16:05.28 | kerio | peterbjornx: what are you writing there? zeroes? |
| 16:06.55 | peterbjornx | yes |
| 16:07.06 | peterbjornx | making a fs image |
| 16:07.42 | kerio | set slice_idle to 0 and make the queue bigger |
| 16:08.39 | kerio | peterbjornx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5677102/ i have this at the end of my /etc/init.d/rcS |
| 16:08.43 | kerio | right before the "exit 0" |
| 16:08.54 | kerio | 1268776960 bytes (1,3 GB) copied, 72,0904 s, 17,6 MB/s |
| 16:08.56 | kerio | writing zeros |
| 16:09.00 | kerio | on ext4, though |
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| 16:32.47 | peterbjornx | keiro, thanks: it sped it up a LOT |
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| 16:55.32 | pepper | my apt sources.list has some problems. Its throwing me a conflicting dsitribution error and KEYEXPIRED errors ever since the repo change. |
| 16:55.48 | pepper | what would be the best way to fix this? |
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| 18:18.23 | pepper | psych, how are you trying to transfer them? maybe the connection times out. |
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| 21:16.01 | yigal | hello, I'm in the process of trying to install a new screen on my n900 and I thought maybe someone here might be able to help. |
| 21:17.46 | zeq1 | yigal: the only tricky bit is make sure you don't get any detrious between the touchscreen and the lcd |
| 21:17.50 | yigal | I've watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDQ81cahD1c but I can't remove the lcd from the camera found at about ~3:00 |
| 21:18.13 | yigal | zeq1: I can't open these two touch screen/lcd |
| 21:18.18 | yigal | I don't know why either |
| 21:18.58 | yigal | s/camera/touch screen |
| 21:19.01 | zeq1 | the touchscreen and lcd slider is held on by screws |
| 21:22.31 | yigal | should I just be following along in N900 service manual 1&2 for the disassembly? |
| 21:22.57 | yigal | I see 6 screws cool |
| 21:23.38 | yigal | the 2 hidden from view by the slider either all the way up or down I need to remove |
| 21:23.47 | yigal | zeq1: ty |
| 21:28.05 | yigal | man the insides are dirty |
| 21:28.07 | yigal | so shameful |
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| 21:45.39 | yigal | any hints on getting the touchscreen and lcd connected again? |
| 21:46.15 | yigal | how forcefully should I have to push the connectors, male digitizer and female display? |
| 21:46.21 | yigal | together |
| 21:57.00 | yigal | great so no one is here now :P |
| 21:57.03 | yigal | cool |
| 21:57.14 | bef0rd | i'm |
| 21:57.22 | bef0rd | I have not disassembled my n900 though |
| 21:57.29 | bef0rd | did you check for videos on youtube? |
| 21:57.44 | yigal | of course that was the link I provided above |
| 21:57.45 | bef0rd | oh I see the logs |
| 21:57.46 | bef0rd | you did |
| 21:57.49 | bef0rd | sorry |
| 21:58.05 | yigal | no worries |
| 21:58.09 | yigal | this is rather irritating |
| 22:00.21 | yigal | I think I damaged it |
| 22:00.24 | yigal | this is such a bummer |
| 22:00.54 | yigal | it just wont stay!! |
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| 22:01.42 | yigal | F* |
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| 22:54.28 | discopig | hi |
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