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00:32.37DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: already suggested, but I'm afraid that's still not sufficient to neuter that beast
00:34.00DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: my idea is to only proces 100 lines of any of the 3 sections, then exit that script with an integer as return value, and invoke it again with that integer to skip the int:num-of-lines
00:35.29DocScrutinizer05*maybe* even return name/id/whatever of last account processed, and then do a 'seek' or whatever it's named in SQL, for next higher reecord in primary key sequence
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00:36.49DocScrutinizer05nah, nevermind, the lines in that .csv are master, so all we need is a linenumber to resume processing, process another 100 lines, and exit with new current linenumber as return value
00:37.14DocScrutinizer05doesn't believe saying such bullshit
00:37.59DocScrutinizer05nuke all that crap, and code dat shite in a decent langiage, with direct SQL access
00:39.30DocScrutinizer05/usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/core/collector.php my ass
00:40.30DocScrutinizer05there's a point where you just have to *drop* everything legacy cruft, and design sth from scratch
00:41.35DocScrutinizer05all those $objects instantiated everywhere give me nausea
00:42.46DocScrutinizer05$objects are for math profs and wimps, real men use FORTRAN or ASSEMBLER to code stuff
00:43.05DocScrutinizer05;-)
00:44.01DocScrutinizer05at least in assembler there's no doubt at all about when garbage collector kicks in
00:44.15DocScrutinizer05you simply re-use memory areas
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06:34.52jacekowskifreemangordon: memory usage doesn't drop a lot after than unset
06:35.09jacekowskifreemangordon: it's still about 20k/entry processed
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09:30.41DrathirDocScrutinizer05: working for you share gprs from n900 throught wifi?
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10:41.15jacekowskiDrathir: it works for everyone
10:51.42XATRIXDocScrutinizer05: how can i temporarily disable APN ?
10:52.10XATRIXfAPN shows me only one MMS AP, but i have the default one Internet
10:52.17XATRIXfAPN doesn't detect it
10:52.31DocScrutinizer05XATRIX: I usually change apn username by adding an X
10:52.54XATRIXwhere ?
10:52.58DocScrutinizer05frals: ^^^^
10:53.29XATRIXBTW , i chose Internet as my default AP in "Connection settings" and Autoscan and connect to Internet
10:53.47fralswow, people are still using that... :D
10:53.47XATRIXBut after i get out of a subway it autoconnects to MMS O_o
10:54.08DocScrutinizer05hmm
10:54.10XATRIXIt shouldn't connect MMS in 99.9% of a time
10:55.01DocScrutinizer05sorry, my tips won't help here. Ask frals
10:55.25fralsshit, cant remember exactly how it worked since i havent touched it in 2 years or so, but iirc if it picks the wrong one its because the name in gconf is "wrong"
10:55.32XATRIX's asking frals...
10:55.46fralsdid you add the MMS apn thru apn or did fMMS add it?
10:56.05XATRIXfMMS seems to add it
10:56.24fralsiirc i implemented some magic stuff in fmms to sort it so the MMS access point was always at the bottom of the gconf tree so icd would pick the internet one
10:56.28XATRIXI never added MMS
10:56.43XATRIXhm
10:57.24DocScrutinizer05frals: btw thanks for the f in fAPN and fMMS, otherwise I had forgotten who coded it since years ;-)
10:58.04frals;)
10:58.24XATRIXActually i don't see the screen in fMMS where can i change the order of APs
10:58.28fralsXATRIX: fAPN filters out the list of APs to only show user created ones (or created by fMMS)
10:59.05XATRIXI get Options, here i have 3 types of settings "Internet-connection" "Change the size" "Network type"
10:59.56fralsyou could check gconf under /osso/system/connectivity/
11:00.08fralsand check the dir name of the MMS accesspoint and try to rename it
11:00.19XATRIXWhere is it ?
11:00.24XATRIXI never used gconf
11:00.30fralsgconftool --help :)
11:00.44fralsit might break stuff thou, so tread easy
11:00.57fralstheres prolly some guide in the fmms thread on tmo
11:01.01DocScrutinizer05gconftool -R /osso/system/connectivity/
11:01.27fralssince it was a common problem in the beginning but in the last versions i either fixed it or people stopped caring :)
11:01.55DocScrutinizer05sorry, not right cmdline
11:03.33XATRIXNokia-N900:~# gconftool -R /osso/system/connectivity
11:03.33XATRIXNokia-N900:~#
11:03.37XATRIXgives me nothing out
11:04.53DocScrutinizer05gconftool -R /system/osso/connectivity   maybe
11:09.16XATRIXhttp://fpaste.org/ASbj/
11:09.37XATRIXSeems like my MMS is the second one
11:09.42XATRIXIsn't it ?
11:12.44DocScrutinizer05gconftool -R /system/osso/connectivity/IAP ?
11:13.03DocScrutinizer05sorry I don't have multiple IAPs
11:13.24DocScrutinizer05particularly no MMS IAP
11:15.21XATRIXhm
11:15.27XATRIXfrals: any ideas ?
11:17.44fralsXATRIX: weird, IIRC that should be the "correct" way to make it autoconnect to the right one
11:18.19XATRIXYes, but when it loose the signal
11:18.26XATRIXIt reconnects to MMS
11:18.35XATRIXInstead of Internet
11:19.09fralshm, it never heard of that before, it should try to connect to the same one afaik
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11:19.49frals-it
11:20.11fralssorry cant really help you any more than that :/
11:20.50XATRIXgreat :(
11:21.21fralsyou could always remove the mms apn, but then fmms wont work that good :)
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11:22.59fralshmm
11:23.52fralsif you know python you could modify fMMS to disable/enable the APN before/after it needs to use it
11:23.59fralsi wonder why i didnt do that...
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11:27.21XATRIXyea
11:27.28XATRIXi don't know python
11:27.52XATRIXhow can i edit /system/osso/connectivity/IAP ?
11:31.04DocScrutinizer05with gconftool
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11:39.16sixwheeledbeastmhm, sudoers makes no sense in maemo, either that or my sudoers file is borked
11:39.28sixwheeledbeastor both
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11:55.00sixwheeledbeastif I have scripts that need root the correct way to add them to sudoers is:-
11:55.04sixwheeledbeastuser ALL = NOPASSWD: /opt/foo/script/ *
11:55.05sixwheeledbeast?
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12:02.18Drathirjacekowski: by script or app wich one is better? when i check last time mobile hot spot dont works and reboot the phone...
12:04.13jacekowskimobile hot spot
12:04.15jacekowskiand you need KP for it
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12:10.59Drathirjacekowski: yes KP is running how i can check or where i can check what error caused reboot the phone when try to enable sharing with mobile hot spot?
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13:21.32DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: you need to add them to a new file in sudoers.d/*, then run update_sudoers
13:21.52DocScrutinizer05DO NOT edit /etc/sudoers
13:22.39sixwheeledbeastDocScrutinizer05: Yep. /etc/sudoers.d/foo.sudoers
13:22.48DocScrutinizer05:nod:
13:23.09DocScrutinizer05should just work
13:23.21sixwheeledbeastI still can't get the scripts to work
13:23.55DocScrutinizer05hmm
13:24.16sixwheeledbeastit's the "nice" and "swapon" command in the script that fails, if that makes any diff
13:25.50sixwheeledbeastworks fine in a root shell
13:26.26DocScrutinizer05path wrong?
13:26.31DocScrutinizer05wrong shell?
13:26.45vi__Is  it possible to send IMs from the command line on the N900?
13:26.52DocScrutinizer05nice and swapon are builtins of messybox
13:27.52DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: you're aware that you usually should use FQN for binaries, in scripts?
13:28.35DocScrutinizer05vi__: which kind of IM?
13:28.49sixwheeledbeastducks FQN...
13:28.55DocScrutinizer05vi__: ...but generally, I dunno
13:29.08sixwheeledbeastoh so "/sbin/swapon"
13:29.13DocScrutinizer05yep
13:29.32DocScrutinizer05never take path or shell as granted in scripts
13:30.08DocScrutinizer05particularly */sbin
13:30.21DocScrutinizer05your "user" path usually doesn't contain sbins
13:30.38DocScrutinizer05sudo doesn't change that
13:31.13sixwheeledbeastoh thanks I didn't think about that, so how to translate "nice -19 swapon foo"
13:31.29sixwheeledbeast/usr/bin/nice -19 /sbin/swapon foo
13:31.34DocScrutinizer05/sbin/nice -19 swapon foo
13:31.46sixwheeledbeastoh
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13:31.52sixwheeledbeastok :)
13:31.52DocScrutinizer05or wherever nice might be
13:32.04DocScrutinizer05sorry, probably is in /bin
13:32.23DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# which nice
13:32.24DocScrutinizer05/usr/bin/gnu/nice
13:32.26DocScrutinizer05;-P
13:32.30DocScrutinizer05not for you
13:33.14DocScrutinizer05I sometimes revert to defining an explicit $PATH at start of my script
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13:34.17DocScrutinizer05/bin/busybox nice  -19 swapon foo
13:34.22DocScrutinizer05should always work
13:34.35DocScrutinizer05if busybox nice would ever work as expected
13:35.44DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# ll /usr/bin/nice
13:35.45DocScrutinizer05lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2012-09-11 15:34 /usr/bin/nice -> /bin/busybox
13:36.04sixwheeledbeastthank you very much, will give that a go.
13:38.56DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# /bin/busybox nice  -19 nice
13:38.58DocScrutinizer050
13:39.30DocScrutinizer05which evidently is fux0red
13:39.54DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# nice  -19 nice
13:39.56DocScrutinizer0519
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13:40.20DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# nice  -n -19 nice
13:40.21DocScrutinizer05-19
13:41.11DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# nice --version
13:41.13DocScrutinizer05nice (GNU coreutils) 8.4
13:43.21DocScrutinizer05busybox obviously has an alias for nice that changes *own* niceness, but that doesn't help for executing the command after nice if it's not an internal busybox cmd
13:43.42DocScrutinizer05sth thoroughly fux0red in busybox nice
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13:48.47sixwheeledbeastgrr, messybox! may have to drop nice after trying above
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13:57.13vi__wait are you saying BB nice does not work for any program that is not busybox?
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13:59.54sixwheeledbeastvi__: seems so
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14:00.20vi__...then it is fucking useless.
14:01.02vi__but swapon/off are busybox aliases...right?
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14:03.15vi__There is a special place in the lowest circles of programmers hell specifically for perpetrators of my sins today.
14:07.18vi__On a scale of 0-10 I would rate this code unconscionable.
14:08.28sixwheeledbeastDocScrutinizer05: /sbin/swapon /dev/foo: Operation not permitted
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14:09.28keriosixwheeledbeast: are you root?
14:09.33keriois /dev/foo correctly mkswapped?
14:09.40keriois /dev/foo writable
14:09.41kerio?
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14:13.43sixwheeledbeastkerio: script is suppose to be added to sudoers, swaps work fine
14:14.01keriowhat's the command to swapon?
14:14.04keriolike, the full command
14:14.31DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# ll /sbin/swapon
14:14.33DocScrutinizer05lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2012-09-11 15:34 /sbin/swapon -> /bin/busybox
14:14.49keriobusybox swapon should work fine
14:15.51DocScrutinizer05if messybox not acting up again, and if an "id" immediately before "busybox swapon" shows you're root, then yes
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14:38.14sixwheeledbeastDocScrutinizer05: kerio: /bin/busybox swapon /dev/mmcblk1p2
14:38.28keriohm
14:38.46sixwheeledbeastit must be a root issue works in a root shell
14:38.47keriowhy not just /sbin/swapon /dev/mmcblk1p2? n.b.: it shouldn't change anything
14:38.53kerioalright
14:39.54DocScrutinizer05I *guess* messybox does a first sane thing: drop privileges
14:40.01sixwheeledbeastso there is not a way of doing this as "user" even if script is in sudoers?
14:40.15kerioDocScrutinizer05: it shouldn't
14:40.20keriosixwheeledbeast: sudo that should work fine
14:40.26kerioditto sudo a script that contains that
14:40.30kerioyou're probably lying
14:40.38sixwheeledbeaster
14:41.07DocScrutinizer05kerio: you're probably not a polite person
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14:41.20kerio:<
14:42.56DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: try specifying #!/bin/busybox as your script interpreter
14:43.26DocScrutinizer05I dunno which hickups messybox has
14:43.36sixwheeledbeaster no
14:44.18DocScrutinizer05?
14:45.05sixwheeledbeastDocScrutinizer05: oh try
14:45.28sixwheeledbeastsixwheeledbeast: applet not found
14:45.53sixwheeledbeastDocScrutinizer05: ^^^ even
14:46.59DocScrutinizer05uh?
14:47.12Drathirhow to fix  Read-only file system
14:47.30Drathirreboot be enough?
14:47.37DocScrutinizer05usually not
14:48.02sixwheeledbeastthat's what happens if I change interpreter and run
14:48.33DocScrutinizer05well, it probably has a certain line that causes this
14:48.37DocScrutinizer05in script
14:48.49DocScrutinizer05I can't see it in my crystal ball
14:49.20DocScrutinizer05set -v might help
14:50.14DocScrutinizer05of course you shouldn't call applet commands in a script run by busybox as "busybox <applet> ..."
14:51.26Drathiri mean fix My Docs is seeing like ro when try to delete a file... brb try reboot...
14:56.21vi__Why not just install/steal/copy debian swapon/off?
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15:00.42kerioDocScrutinizer05: using /bin/busybox as the shell will call /bin/busybox yourscript
15:00.50kerioand yourscript isn't a valid busybox applet
15:01.02kerioif you want to make sure you're using busybox for your script, use #!/bin/busybox sh
15:01.10sixwheeledbeasthttp://pastebin.com/jsH6hJg6 http://pastebin.com/8UHWuGMW
15:01.24sixwheeledbeastno crystal ball required
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15:02.45Drathirrestart dont work again have touch: test: Read-only file system
15:03.34DocScrutinizer05kerio: LOL, nice
15:05.02Drathirhow i can  fsck My Docs or remount it ?
15:06.31kerioyou probably don't want to fsck it anyway
15:06.47kerioconnect to a computer in mass storage mode, copy the copiable, format, and copy back
15:07.55Drathirhttp://pastebin.com/5V2tH3Rc
15:08.31Drathirkerio: ok thx a lot
15:08.51kerioif you have enough space, that is
15:09.04keriodoing a fsck is only really worth it if you don't have enough backing space to copy, format and copy back, imo
15:09.08kerioor if it's really a lot of data
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15:15.36Drathirkerio: little a lot of data but i try to manage a space to cp...
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15:27.19DocScrutinizer05I think kerio forgot a tiny but important detail: fixing the MyDocs fs
15:27.35kerioi said format it
15:27.49DocScrutinizer05ooh, yep
15:28.04keriook, to be fair you should copy the copiable, then fsck, then copy the copiable, then format, then copy back
15:28.20DocScrutinizer05missed that since it's a rather unusual term in linux
15:28.30keriofair
15:28.39keriocp, mkfs, cp
15:28.54keriohey, what do you know, it's also how you defrag in unix
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15:36.08Drathirok i delete file causing the problem and sadly didnt help now show something like that Reclaimed 1838 unused clusters (120455168 bytes).
15:36.11DrathirFree cluster summary wrong (324115 vs. really 326911)
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15:37.22Drathirech i think no other way to han format...
15:39.27Drathirfsck from pc is the same that built in?
15:40.01Drathirone good things is that fs is no more in ro mode...
15:49.30Drathirit is very risky to using fs in this way ?
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16:51.16sixwheeledbeastah kerio, you beauty I get it now. :facepalm:
16:51.50kerioinfobot: no, kerio is <sixwheeledbeast> ah kerio, you beauty
16:51.50infobotkerio: cannot alter locked factoids
16:52.02keriobut i'm the one who locked it
16:52.06kerios
16:52.08kerio~useless
16:52.08infobotACTION starts crying and hides from kerio in the darkest corner of the room. :(
16:52.57sixwheeledbeaster
16:53.55sixwheeledbeastkerio is locked factiod
17:01.54Drathirkerio: bot source code is public?
17:02.04keriohm, i don't know
17:02.10ShadowJKinfobot, yes
17:02.11infobotfrom memory, yes is the opposite of no
17:02.30ShadowJKWell, sort of. It's a huge mass of perl.
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19:37.07DocScrutinizer05kerio: you locked it
19:37.14DocScrutinizer05you can unlock it
19:37.45DocScrutinizer05probably not even I can alter locked factoids
19:37.59DocScrutinizer05infobot: no, kerio is <sixwheeledbeast> ah kerio, you beauty
19:37.59infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay
19:38.09DocScrutinizer05*shrug* I can ;-P
19:38.21DocScrutinizer05~factinfo kerio
19:38.21infobotkerio -- created by kerio <kerio@unaffiliated/kerio> at Tue Aug  7 21:11:47 2012 (238 days); last modified 22s ago  by DocScrutinizer05!~HaleBopp@openmoko/engineers/joerg; it has been requested 15 times, last by kerio, 2d 9h 15m 29s ago; it has been locked by kerio.
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21:46.20sixwheeledbeast~kerio
21:46.20infobotrumour has it, kerio is <sixwheeledbeast> ah kerio, you beauty
21:46.37sixwheeledbeastrumour has it?
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22:22.06DocScrutinizer05wonders what those 6 wheels might be
22:23.23sixwheeledbeast~wiki Dodge T-rex
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22:33.08sixwheeledbeastI always wanted one
22:33.26sixwheeledbeastonly 7 made :(
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22:43.40DocScrutinizer05http://privatepaste.com/2fe9a78f10  <-smart :-(((
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